Why don't you focus on the fact that you are indicting 100% of the black community, because of what maybe 5% do.

Should I similarly condemn 100% of Indians because some are involved as drug dealers and gun runners?   Oh yes. I hear your screams now of stereotyping the entire Indian population, based on what some do.

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Amazing the double standards which we see here.

And don't claim that Indian involvement in  crime is new. When the black choke and robbers snatched jewelry, who do you think bought it?  In fact who do you think PROMISED TO BUY IT, once they had supply?  There has been a long symbiotic relationship between black criminals and certain Indian "business men".

Where did I indict 100% of the black community? I stated that communities which are predominantly black are more dangerous than those which are not. I then posted a link arguing the same thing.

Kaz,

You are now raising hell for the PNC boys on GNI. 

I don't find the genes option plausible. The pathological one can be overcome.

I am only illustrating indisputable facts.

I can't help you here. You are confusing different aspects of my argument.

ksazma (and others) make a living indulging this foolish correlation = causation fallacy when it comes to poverty/unemployment/urban crime/Black people; then, when called on it, whine that it is unfair to point at their bigotry since they are actually not smart enough to tease out the difference and should be excused

uh huh

and you did that because you think there was something significant to the link. That is what he is getting at.

They will now distort the facts and call it racism. That is the problem at GNI and Guyana in General.

We can never have a serious discussion on race and crime in Guyana because many here are afraid to discuss it for whatever reason.

As a young teenagers, we would ride our bikes from Corentyne Village to Skeldon. There was a predominant Black Areas called Scottsburg. Black bullies would beat us up and take away our bikes if we ride there during the night.

Report it to the police and it went nowhere.

This problem exists till this day. This is not racism, It is the truth. Afros must be willing to deal with the truth before all this talk about National Unity can move forward.

hw many times did the Scottsburg boys beat u up and take your bike yugee?

uh huh

This is where you went wrong. I never denied the causes. My comment was on the effects which is that their communities are more dangerous than others. I do find it interesting that you object to the one example where I hinted on a cause as if you don't like that cause. There is no bigotry in me bai. I mentioned yesterday or the day before that most of my bike friends were blacks. That does not change the facts I listed or which were supported in the article I listed.

Listen you dumb ass prick. No one has to distort the facts. There is a veritable cortege industry in academia analyzing and explaining these statistics. Redux hinted at a point of complete intellectual blindness ie correlation and causation and yet here you are just rattling off your stupid mouth like the ass you are.

Of course I thought that there was something significant to the link. While I quickly scanned the article, I just googled it since I felt just stating it would not be sufficient for me.

Dude, the effect of the complete emptying of a country is on going in Europe. How is that independent of the cause?  The effect is Europeans bickering and questioning if ScHENGEN is appropriate for them and it will remake the composition of Europe but what the hell does that have to do with the people themselves and not the cause that drove them to such extremes?

please ask someone to help u out . . . obviously my post soared way over your head

Listen Buck d2,

In order for Guyana to move forward and address the current crime epidemic, Blacks must own up to their actions and stop blaming others for their problems and stop accusing those who provide evidence of crime and criminal activities as racist.

That very epidemic will soon eat away at their own communities.

Try walking at Jane/Finch in Toronto at night and see what happens to you.

Try driving a Benz to the neighbourhood and parking it for an hour and see what could potentially happen to it.

Wear an expensive gold watch or chain and walk around at night and see what happens to you.

How many are on welfare and how many single mothers, how many shootings compared to the rest of Toronto combined ?

Someone must finally own up to their actions. The problem is that a certain segment of a community constantly blame others for their problems.

Are those who feel affected by the agreement concerned of the agreement or its effects?

Now you are the hero for the Indo KKK.  Go right ahead.

They are happy that you peddle their agenda.  "black man baaad, Indo good".

I can't guarantee what you wish.

me done...you are completely in the weeds. gnite

I am no one's hero. I merely stated facts.

Good night to you also Sir.

Yuji and his Indo KKK buddies walked through the village every day hoping to get robbed.

Its clear that the Indo KKK has a masochistic attraction to aggressive and criminal black men, and apparently do does Kaz.  They cannot describe blacks without a focus on this element.

Not enuff times, that's for sure.

And so were many of the women who Strom Thurmond loved. Yes that KKK segregationist.

 This "black friends" bit is quite cliché.

Then you clearly don't know me. I pointed out the problems in the Muslim community. Does that mean that I am anti-Islam or anti-Muslim? Should I refrain from seeing the ills in the Muslim community since I am a Muslim?

running with dis ball bai . . . which "race" are we going to blame for the nearly 2 decade crime spree that raped the country and made the Pradoville gang rich beyond their wildest dreams?

hmmmmm . . .?

And this is the whole Indo KKK sadomasochistic vibe.  Do they "love" blacks to beat them up?  Sure seems so, as their entire reference towards blacks has a focus on the violent and criminal MINORITY.  

Kaz is now joining them.  There are many black communities in Guyana which were perfectly safe, even some which weren't affluent, but he choses to focus on the violent areas.  Hmmmmm!

no shame in asking for help . . . just do it

Funny thing this.

1.  In the 70s the choke & rob boys stole jewelry and gold and sold it to INDIAN jewelers, who were looking for a cheap source of gold, and so wanted it from criminals.

2.  Scroll to the Jagdeo era when Indians armed black criminals to be their private armies, and then didn't care what these people did with these guns.

So are Indians the "innocents" in all of this that some claim them to be?  As with the drug trade in the USA there is a symbiotic relationship between black criminals and non blacks who support their activities, and at times, even financing it.

Here is ANOTHER instance of BOTH guilty and BOTH suffering (as blacks are also victims of crime, and most blacks murders are of other blacks).  Yet only "blackman" to blame!

And why didn't you also point out the rampant pathologies which exist within the Indian community.

 Indo women might be married, but many are to brutal men who brutalize, and on occasion even kill them...certainly impoverish them when meager earnings are spent on liquor and not food. 

The extremely high suicide rate among Indians. 

We have this whole phenomenon of Indians killing their own relatives, or paying others to do so.  I have yet to hear of such behavior among blacks.

And I can go on.

In fact even in NYC when I hear of an Indian involved in a bank robbery I know that it is a Guyanese.  So maybe Asian Indians are afraid to walk around in Indo Guyanese areas in NYC as there is a good deal more alcohol fueled violence.

So while we are outlining the various pathologies, let us not limit it only to those of one race.

BTW these broken Indo homes, where boys starve because "daddy drinks out the $$$ and then beats up every one in the household," are now becoming a rich NEW source of criminality in Guyana. Violent crime is no longer the sole province of Africans. 

In addition while African bandits attack every one, it appears as if Indian bandits focus on their own Indians.  Maybe you can explain why, as the Corentyne fishermen would love to know.

a 12 year-old Cassius Clay had his bike stolen by other black kids and vowed to get at the perpetrators . . . he learned to box and became the greatest boxer of all time - Muhamad Ali

yugee and ksazma as kids get their bikes stolen by young Black toughs and spend the rest of their mediocre lives sucking their thumbs, loathing blackman, frightened, looking to creatures like jagdeo as savior, and subscribing to theories of violence and criminality inherent in dark skin and kinky hair

the difference between man and antiman!

The thing is yuji, cobra and rama ENJOY being beaten up by thugs.  Its a masochistic fantasy.  It would not surprise me if the ones in Toronto walk around Jane Finch, and the ones in NYC go into ENY with cash pouring out of the pockets, begging to be attacked.  They then will extend such behavior to the entirety of blacks to justify their own bigotry.

Because that was not within the scope of Danyael's comment. But you will need to go back a few posts for the genesis.

Just your normal refusal to deal with the fact that Indian racism is just as bad as has black racism been by screaming "black man a beat ahbe".

Alcohol fueled violence is rampant among Indians so do not pretend as if there aren't real threats of violence either.  Blacks are well aware that when they see a group of drunk Indians, maybe they need to find another route.

Note taken of who stole young Cassius Clay's bike.

Incidentally I never forgot who stole my bike and when I grew older and was working and riding around on my motorbike, the same guy used to ask me for money. And I used to give it to him.  I was a free giver for many years before I left Guyana. The guy's name was Django and he used to live in Thomas Street Kitty. Sure I can rise above my victimization but don't have to forget if I don't care to.