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Former Member
Who sat on Guysuco Board for 19 years overseeing the destruction of the sugar belt?
TK_REDUX (Guest)
Ramotar! 
Why them shutting down Albion to have a rally and ' dont give a sh!t', will the opposition get permission to do the same ?
Former Member
Who will go to the sugar belt at Albion tomorrow and cry croc tears begging for a chance.
He will tell them he shall chnage their lives in the Kingdom of Kong?
He will give them so much salary increase, and will expand the sugar production.
Then he will PROMISE ETHANOL.
HA HA.
Lawrence Duprey no longer on the scene, so they can now go ahead with Ethanol.
Too late, AFC already progressing with this plan.
He will tell them he shall chnage their lives in the Kingdom of Kong?
He will give them so much salary increase, and will expand the sugar production.
Then he will PROMISE ETHANOL.
HA HA.
Lawrence Duprey no longer on the scene, so they can now go ahead with Ethanol.
Too late, AFC already progressing with this plan.
Former Member
Who tek US$1 million to block ethanol from Guyana in the past?
Someone should give dem rass Koolaid.
jags (Guest)
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by jags:
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Have they done anything innovate and out of the box over the past 19 years? Sugar, rice, mining, timber, fishery have been the economic lifeline since I was a kid. Could anyone point to any initiatives which has brought further economic depth and breath, which is sustainable, which is exportable or import susbtitution in nature?
THe AFC need to attack the Duck's nepotism, and his performance record and the band of dacoits that have hijacked the PPP party.
The Duck will use Jagdeo's popularity as a springboard to the throne in the Kingdom of Kong.
The Duck will use Jagdeo's popularity as a springboard to the throne in the Kingdom of Kong.
quote:Originally posted by baseman:
Have they done anything innovate and out of the box over the past 19 years? Sugar, rice, mining, timber, fishery have been the economic lifeline since I was a kid. Could anyone point to any initiatives which has brought further economic depth and breath, which is sustainable, which is exportable or import susbtitution in nature?
Coke is it
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Former Member
The question should be asked, who kept Guysuco alive when all other Caribbean nations abandoned sugar after the EU subsidies were phased out. Sugar should have been abandoned in Guyana but the pPP made a blunder in further investing in Skeldon factory based on ill advice from Booker Tate with the acquiescence of many no AFC supporters including Ramjattan. Now the country is on the hook to recoup the cost of the factory and further invest in an unprofitable industry and further perpetuating the dankey cart economy, a phrase stolen by a failed economist, now residing in Florida.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by jags:
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Don't let these buzzwords fool you, bio fuels are not profitable nor cost effective as they cost more than fossil fuel to produce and leave a larger carbon footprint. The nations that produce bio fuels do so under heavy government subsidies. The AFC dunces are talking off the top of their heads and have not really studied the matter. The same way the PPP undertook the failed Skeldon venture and now leave the tax payers on the hook.
jags (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:quote:Originally posted by jags:
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Don't let these buzzwords fool you, bio fuels are not profitable nor cost effective as they cost more than fossil fuel to produce and leave a larger carbon footprint. The nations that produce bio fuels do so under heavy government subsidies. The AFC dunces are talking off the top of their heads and have not really studied the matter. The same way the PPP undertook the failed Skeldon venture and now leave the tax payers on the hook.
They do provide subsidies but those subsidies are for different reasons especially in corn production in the US.
If you look at the Brazilian BioDiesel model there are no subsidies. Very important to note.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by jags:quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:quote:Originally posted by jags:
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Don't let these buzzwords fool you, bio fuels are not profitable nor cost effective as they cost more than fossil fuel to produce and leave a larger carbon footprint. The nations that produce bio fuels do so under heavy government subsidies. The AFC dunces are talking off the top of their heads and have not really studied the matter. The same way the PPP undertook the failed Skeldon venture and now leave the tax payers on the hook.
They do provide subsidies but those subsidies are for different reasons especially in corn production in the US.
If you look at the Brazilian BioDiesel model there are no subsidies. Very important to note.
Need to be careful discounting subsidies. If certain concessions are granted to stimulate and grow a domestic industry which will substitute for an imported item and enhance local employment and technology, the value gained may very well compensate for any "subsidies".
Former Member
Engaging Investors(Local and International)into developing the Canjie Basin for Ethanol Cane with nearby distilleries for producing Ethanol for the international market.Use our vast Land and Talent,investors who would gave back to Guyana and improve technology to compete within the ethanol market.eg invest in Mixing Tanks for blending the E-10(10% Ethanol gasoline)
TK_REDUX (Guest)
RAMOTAR!
jags (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by baseman:
Need to be careful discounting subsidies. If certain concessions are granted to stimulate and grow a domestic industry which will substitute for an imported item and enhance local employment and technology, the value gained may very well compensate for any "subsidies".
Excellent point baseman, many people sometime looks at subsidies as negative but there are many positive attributes of subsidies that can help in a positive way as you highlighted with employment and technological advances spurring innovation.
jags (Guest)
I was in Puerto Rico a few years ago and what they had done is they brought in Bacardi and some other rum manufacturers and gave them incentives for setting up shop in Puerto Rico.
These are other things Guyana could have been doing which would create a lot of jobs and make more use of the sugar industry.
This is something that someone needs to look at closer and study and possibly come up with a business model that can drive this. It would create much needed jobs in regions 5 and 6.
These are other things Guyana could have been doing which would create a lot of jobs and make more use of the sugar industry.
This is something that someone needs to look at closer and study and possibly come up with a business model that can drive this. It would create much needed jobs in regions 5 and 6.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by creative:
Engaging Investors(Local and International)into developing the Canjie Basin for Ethanol Cane with nearby distilleries for producing Ethanol for the international market.Use our vast Land and Talent,investors who would gave back to Guyana and improve technology to compete within the ethanol market.eg invest in Mixing Tanks for blending the E-10(10% Ethanol gasoline)
The cost of producing a gallon of ethanol, which has to be mixed with gasoline anyway for the majority of engines, is much higher than the cost of buying a gallon gasoline. Even if gasoline reach 10$ a gallon, ethanol would still not be profitable.
quote:Originally posted by jags:
I was in Puerto Rico a few years ago and what they had done is they brought in Bacardi and some other rum manufacturers and gave them incentives for setting up shop in Puerto Rico.
These are other things Guyana could have been doing which would create a lot of jobs and make more use of the sugar industry.
This is something that someone needs to look at closer and study and possibly come up with a business model that can drive this. It would create much needed jobs in regions 5 and 6.
Next time, go to Costa Rica and see the massive banana fields and pine apple fields. Go to DR and see how french beans, bora, baigan, seim, tomatoes, cucumbers and any other greens grown in Guyana are produced commercially for the North American market. BTW, some of these farms are operated by Guyanese entrepeneurs.
Former Member
Bio fuel is the future. releasing Carbon sequestered in the fossil fuel is not the same as burning biofuel. One is releasing Carbon and the other is carbon neutral.quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:quote:Originally posted by jags:
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Don't let these buzzwords fool you, bio fuels are not profitable nor cost effective as they cost more than fossil fuel to produce and leave a larger carbon footprint. The nations that produce bio fuels do so under heavy government subsidies. The AFC dunces are talking off the top of their heads and have not really studied the matter. The same way the PPP undertook the failed Skeldon venture and now leave the tax payers on the hook.
Former Member
I can't hear yu. Who Bruk up Guysuco?
Who want to further bruk up Guyana?
Who is no good for Guyana?
Well thank you.
Who want to further bruk up Guyana?
Who is no good for Guyana?
Well thank you.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by D2:Bio fuel is the future. releasing Carbon sequestered in the fossil fuel is not the same as burning biofuel. One is releasing Carbon and the other is carbon neutral.quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:quote:Originally posted by jags:
It is absolutely stunning that a country with so much history in Sugar does not even have a plan to get BioDiesel and Ethanol production going.
This is such a colossal failure its not funny.
Don't let these buzzwords fool you, bio fuels are not profitable nor cost effective as they cost more than fossil fuel to produce and leave a larger carbon footprint. The nations that produce bio fuels do so under heavy government subsidies. The AFC dunces are talking off the top of their heads and have not really studied the matter. The same way the PPP undertook the failed Skeldon venture and now leave the tax payers on the hook.
It does not surprise me that you are very poorly read and do not stay on top of current trends, but then again many consider you a fraud. And to think you have so much time to catch up with your readings from behind your dollar store counter on slow days.......
California in 2009 declared that ethanol leaves a larger carbon footprint than gasoline.
In fact sugarcane ethanol is not sustainable due to its high requirement of fertilizers and massive amounts of land.
quote:The dark side of sugarcane
Sugarcane is grown as a monocrop, predominantly in southern and central Brazil as well as in parts of Asia and Africa. It relies on heavy quantities of inputs, particularly fertilizer. Harvesting is often done by hand, and working conditions are notoriously harsh.
A number of studies in Brazil have shown that demand for land for sugarcane is leading to the conversion of grasslands and wooded savannah for crops, releasing stored carbon dioxide, and displacing previous users like cattle farmers who move into tropical forests.
One recent study has estimated that, if of the effect of land conversion was taken into account, it would take sugar cane ethanol sourced from previously wooded Cerrado lands in Central Brazil 17 years to repay its climate debt - that means that for those 17 years, the level of greenhouse gases emitted because of land conversion will be higher than the emissions from burning fossil fuels. Given the rate at which sugarcane depletes the soil, there is no guarantee that converted land will still be supporting sugarcane in 17 years time - this carbon debt may in fact never be paid.[2]
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:
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In fact sugarcane ethanol is not sustainable due to its high requirement of fertilizers and massive amounts of land.
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druggie Guyana isnt chopping down any trees to expand sugar. Indeed they are struggling with the lands that are already under sugar.
IO suspect that sugar uses no more fertilzier than crops like corn, and cotton. Unlike those it generates its own fuel to be used in its processing.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:quote:Originally posted by creative:
Engaging Investors(Local and International)into developing the Canjie Basin for Ethanol Cane with nearby distilleries for producing Ethanol for the international market.Use our vast Land and Talent,investors who would gave back to Guyana and improve technology to compete within the ethanol market.eg invest in Mixing Tanks for blending the E-10(10% Ethanol gasoline)
The cost of producing a gallon of ethanol, which has to be mixed with gasoline anyway for the majority of engines, is much higher than the cost of buying a gallon gasoline. Even if gasoline reach 10$ a gallon, ethanol would still not be profitable.
Hey clown, you with you same tripe. I posted you the link which costed Ethonal as USD 2.50 per gallon. Shut you trap and stick to what you do best, discuss the virtues of huckstering and smuggling.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by baseman:
Shut you trap and stick to what you do best, discuss the virtues of huckstering and smuggling.
No his favorite subject is his justification for Guyana becoming a narcostate because he thought RK kept his family safe.
Is someone going to make a bruk up song about Guyana....
Who bruk up Guysuco ?
Who bruk up Supernaam stelling ?
Who bruk up Berbice ferry ?
Why bruk up Guyana ?
Who bruk up de country real bad ?
Who bruk up Guysuco ?
Who bruk up Supernaam stelling ?
Who bruk up Berbice ferry ?
Why bruk up Guyana ?
Who bruk up de country real bad ?
quote:Originally posted by Sase Singh:
I can't hear yu. Who Bruk up Guysuco?
Who want to further bruk up Guyana?
Who is no good for Guyana?
Well thank you.
jags (Guest)
The bottom line is that Cde. Jagan would never have allowed the kind of corruption you see happening at the very highest levels of govt we see today.
Cheddi never got any house lot while he was in govt as a matter of fact getting a house lot while a senior functionary in the PPP is against the rules of the PPP, why did Cde. Ramotar allow so many to violate the rules and the values of the PPP?
Cheddi never got any house lot while he was in govt as a matter of fact getting a house lot while a senior functionary in the PPP is against the rules of the PPP, why did Cde. Ramotar allow so many to violate the rules and the values of the PPP?
Dharry (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by jags:
The bottom line is that Cde. Jagan would never have allowed the kind of corruption you see happening at the very highest levels of govt we see today.
Cheddi never got any house lot while he was in govt as a matter of fact getting a house lot while a senior functionary in the PPP is against the rules of the PPP, why did Cde. Ramotar allow so many to violate the rules and the values of the PPP?
Look where Cheddi used to live simple house in Bel Air with the mango tree. Look where KING KONG LIVES with the pool in the middle of the hosue worth 500 million.
KING KONG MUST GO TO JAIL
Former Member
King Kong will get a free helicopter ride to tHE us federal prisons...the helicopter will land right by the swimming pool
TK_REDUX (Guest)
RAMOTAR = JAGDEO
Former Member
Every post by sase is the same thing.
quote:Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Every post by sase is the same thing.
That's correct, he's against corruption
warrior (Guest)
bai ramotar only know how to say yes and shake is head the man have no clue what is going on as long he get his peice why do you think they select him he will not rock the boatquote:Originally posted by jags:
The bottom line is that Cde. Jagan would never have allowed the kind of corruption you see happening at the very highest levels of govt we see today.
Cheddi never got any house lot while he was in govt as a matter of fact getting a house lot while a senior functionary in the PPP is against the rules of the PPP, why did Cde. Ramotar allow so many to violate the rules and the values of the PPP?
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by baseman:
Hey clown, you with you same tripe. I posted you the link which costed Ethonal as USD 2.50 per gallon. Shut you trap and stick to what you do best, discuss the virtues of huckstering and smuggling.
As usual your sources are fictitious and unreliable. First of all not all countries have a cookie cutter cost for producing ethanol, depending on the region and climate challenges the cost would fluctuate. Besides it is not wise for govt to dabble in private industry, if ethanol is profitable then it should be undertaken by the private enterprise. Most of the AFC rhetoric focuses on govt spearheading these industries when it should be the domain of the more profit focused private enterprise. Note that govt does not mine for gold as there are bountiful private entrepreneurs doing this. The same should be for ethanol but I suppose the private enterprise don't see it as profitable. ahahhahah
Former Member
Who run the flour Mill broke...sase Thunderbolt singh 
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by SuperMike:
Who run the flour Mill broke...sase Thunderbolt singh ::
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Sase Singh:quote:Originally posted by SuperMike:
Who run the flour Mill broke...sase Thunderbolt singh ::
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