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Originally posted by caribj:

druggie you said Guyana is a horrible country with nothing to interest tourists. So why does the PPP waste money?

Guyanese go home to see family. Unless there is huge group, or their Guyana based family is impoverished why will they not stay with them?

See no need for an expensive brand name hotel in Guyana. If private investors think otherwise they should put their money where their mouth is and finance it 100%.

But then Jagdeo will not be able to reap US$ 1 million from the project.

I don't know the details of the marriot hotel, you seem to know more than the rest of us. I do agree that it should be a privately financed project sticking to my belief that govt should not be involved in private sector. Nevertheless the Marriot brand will be good for the nation regardless of who finances it. It will be an internationally recognized brand for foreign dignitaries and wealthy visitors. You will be surprised how many millionaire Guyanese are in this world ready to visit if accommodations are available to suit their standards.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
So you are suggesting that we import everything since it makes no sense to grow our own food and sell the excess to the rest of the Caribbean?
Bai as the world population increases, so will the demand for more food. Your suggestion that the larger nation can out produce us flies in the face of facts. Neither India nor China are capable of producing enough food to feed their population. But nobody doubt their increased presence on the world trade market. SO who are they buying food from? From a lot of poor African countries, or from Brazil, or next door neighbour.

Where did I make this suggestion? Govt should not be investing in any private enterprise. They should only act as facilitators rather than owners of business. If manufacturing or agriculture is profitable then the more efficient private sector will invest. It is how capitalism works.

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:

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Originally posted by baseman:
Because tey could skim off. Because the have little strategic vision. Tourism is a dead duck.

Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture. As usual the AFC snake oil salesmen at work making foolish claims.

when guyana get blue water and white sand on their beaches let me know.have you ever heard about all inclusive packages. when guyana get that let me know

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
]Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture.

So where they getting their fresh fruits aand vegetables from? Guyana?
Before Du Casse raised all those plantations to the ground around 1705, what is now Guyana used to be one of the bread basket of Europe. No island in the Caribbean has such fertile land, abundance of water, and keen workforce. But neither the PPP government, nor its rich backers, are willing to invest and harvest the land. The small individual farmers don't have the capital or size of land to make it a productive exercise.
The PPP regime and its financiers prefer a quick buck from fleecing tourists in hotels and casinos. Those are not being built to exploit tourism travel to the interior. No, they are being built to keep as much of the tourist spending to a mere handful of location. In other words, the money is not filtering through to people outside of the circle.

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Originally posted by the new yorker:
Isn't coke considered an agricultural product?

Yes, but it needs chemical manufacturing. It would definitely create jobs and jumpstart poor economies.
There is also a great demand in the U.S.A. so this would be an excellent choice for developing nations if approved. The legal marijuana business is thriving in California. I would legalize the growing of marijuana in Guyana and exporting to the U.S. clinics.

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Originally posted by warrior:
when guyana get blue water and white sand on their beaches let me know.have you ever heard about all inclusive packages. when guyana get that let me know

Yes indeed, tourism will only be marginally successful in Guyana given the lack of blue water and white sand. But Guyana has enough expats to work on a different type of tourism. If the country is safe and preserves its culture then those expats will be returning to taste the culture it long abandoned for the promise of better overseas.

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Originally posted by warrior:

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:

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Originally posted by baseman:
Because tey could skim off. Because the have little strategic vision. Tourism is a dead duck.

Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture. As usual the AFC snake oil salesmen at work making foolish claims.

when guyana get blue water and white sand on their beaches let me know.have you ever heard about all inclusive packages. when guyana get that let me know

Blue water is just a mirage. White or pink sand could easily be created. Japan has indoor beaches.

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Originally posted by TI:

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Originally posted by warrior:

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:

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Originally posted by baseman:
Because tey could skim off. Because the have little strategic vision. Tourism is a dead duck.

Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture. As usual the AFC snake oil salesmen at work making foolish claims.

when guyana get blue water and white sand on their beaches let me know.have you ever heard about all inclusive packages. when guyana get that let me know

Blue water is just a mirage. White or pink sand could easily be created. Japan has indoor beaches.

oh god one more ass.where do the ppp find you guys from

I knew it! AFC recruiting dummies who don't even know beaches could be man made! Instead of posting, shouldn't you be studying for the GED?

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

This is one of the few issues where I might be sympathetic to the AFC (I presume this is the AFC line.) I think that Jagdeo has been a little too willing to accommodate the colonial powers, who consider the real development of small countries to be unacceptable, and that they ought to aspire to be vacation getaways for affluent northerners. But I am hoping that Ramotar will be a bit more own-way in his relations with the US and UK,IMF, and so on. Plus, the infrastructure projects that the PPP is pursuing will lay the foundation for agro-industrial development in the years ahead.

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
But Guyana has enough expats to work on a different type of tourism.

Druggie if Guyanese are doing so well expats will stay at their homes so they can spend all day with them....after all that is the number ONE reason why they visit Guyana.

Most of Guyana's attractions are OUTSIDE of the coast.....no good hotels in most of these locations.

It might shock you to note that many Guyanese, when they visit NYC say we live more like Guyanese than Guyanese do. Right now they are going for "Fall Sales", maybe even Black Friday sales, and there will soon be "winter" sales.

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

This is one of the few issues where I might be sympathetic to the AFC (I presume this is the AFC line.) I think that Jagdeo has been a little too willing to accommodate the colonial powers, who consider the real development of small countries to be unacceptable, and that they ought to aspire to be vacation getaways for affluent northerners. But I am hoping that Ramotar will be a bit more own-way in his relations with the US and UK,IMF, and so on. Plus, the infrastructure projects that the PPP is pursuing will lay the foundation for agro-industrial development in the years ahead.

You think the Marriot is for northern vacationers?
No sir, the casino is very instrumental in making the hotel a financial success. Wealthy Guyanese, of which there are countless millionaires, will frequent it, as well as visiting Chinese, Indian and other businessmen, and political delegations.
Pegasus will go out of business. They have already started to reduce their rates. Their monopoly in GT is over.

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Originally posted by caribj:

It might shock you to note that many Guyanese, when they visit NYC say we live more like Guyanese than Guyanese do. Right now they are going for "Fall Sales", maybe even Black Friday sales, and there will soon be "winter" sales.

You have a dim view of Indo Guyanese in NY. I have seen them on cruises, expensive European, Asian, world tours, and in hotels like the Ritz.
Do you you know how many Guyanese make serious money?

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Originally posted by TI:

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Originally posted by caribj:

It might shock you to note that many Guyanese, when they visit NYC say we live more like Guyanese than Guyanese do. Right now they are going for "Fall Sales", maybe even Black Friday sales, and there will soon be "winter" sales.

You have a dim view of Indo Guyanese in NY. I have seen them on cruises, expensive European, Asian, world tours, and in hotels like the Ritz.
Do you you know how many Guyanese make serious money?

I see you have no idea what I am talking about. The sales are in GEORGETOWN...yes FALL sales. As wella s winter and summer sales. They are very interested to be American.

I also wonder why you limit to IndoGuyanese..Your racist opinion of AfroGuyanese has been noted. You think we are a bunch of poor failures...you and druggie should shake hands.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

Guyana is the new tourist destination of choice for many from the ABC countries

Well, you see my point. Since both Afro and Indo Guyanese sharing the wealth, when they visit Guyana, they will be staying at the Marriot.

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Originally posted by TI:
[ Wealthy Guyanese, of which there are countless millionaires, .

Many of them have already built their mansions in Guyana so why will they stay in a hotel?

We already have one casino in Guyana. Why is another needed?

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Originally posted by TI:
I knew it! AFC recruiting dummies who don't even know beaches could be man made! Instead of posting, shouldn't you be studying for the GED?

you ass you will come to guyana and make a beach.white rum mess up you guys head.

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Originally posted by TI:
they will be staying at the Marriot.

No they will be staying at homes owned by their relatives...maybe even homes that they own.

Why will they go to Guyana to isolate themselves from those who they go to visit?

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Originally posted by caribj:

Many of them have already built their mansions in Guyana so why will they stay in a hotel?

We already have one casino in Guyana. Why is another needed?

Not all have mansions.
The Providence casino is not in Georgetown. Jagdeo is developing Diamond, on the E.B.D.
He is spreading the wealth. Look for another hotel there soon.

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Originally posted by Streetsmart:
Guyana is the new tourist destination of choice for many from the ABC countries

Having made these bold statements I know that you have statistics available. Hopefully you didnt think that because a few yachts visit Guyana that its suddenly world stage.

A recent article in teh NY Times painted Guyana is a place where only the brave go....This because few hear about it (except Jones town)....its very expensive to visit compared to competing destinations....there is almost no promotion of its attractions by tour operators.

I take it you live in Georgetwon so you dont know how non Guyanese think. They still ask us which part of Africa Guyana is

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by TI:
they will be staying at the Marriot.

No they will be staying at homes owned by their relatives...maybe even homes that they own.

Why will they go to Guyana to isolate themselves from those who they go to visit?

They like their comfort. They can visit relatives; they don't have to sleep there.

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Originally posted by warrior:

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Originally posted by TI:
I knew it! AFC recruiting dummies who don't even know beaches could be man made! Instead of posting, shouldn't you be studying for the GED?

you ass you will come to guyana and make a beach.white rum mess up you guys head.

I bet you never even seen a beach, it's made out of sand, hehehe!

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Originally posted by TI:

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

This is one of the few issues where I might be sympathetic to the AFC (I presume this is the AFC line.) I think that Jagdeo has been a little too willing to accommodate the colonial powers, who consider the real development of small countries to be unacceptable, and that they ought to aspire to be vacation getaways for affluent northerners. But I am hoping that Ramotar will be a bit more own-way in his relations with the US and UK,IMF, and so on. Plus, the infrastructure projects that the PPP is pursuing will lay the foundation for agro-industrial development in the years ahead.

You think the Marriot is for northern vacationers?
No sir, the casino is very instrumental in making the hotel a financial success. Wealthy Guyanese, of which there are countless millionaires, will frequent it, as well as visiting Chinese, Indian and other businessmen, and political delegations.
Pegasus will go out of business. They have already started to reduce their rates. Their monopoly in GT is over.

why will any good government want,to open a new hotel to close a next bussinessman hotel.and where in hell is these rich overseas guyanese.if you talking about bar--rat friend he in jail.i dont know which part of north americia you fools live in but it cannot be canada

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Originally posted by TI:

Not all have mansions.
The Providence casino is not in Georgetown. Jagdeo is developing Diamond, on the E.B.D.
He is spreading the wealth. Look for another hotel there soon.

As far as some one coming from the USA is concerned it is. How many minutes does it take to get there.

BTW Marriott is regarded as being avery average hotel. If you think it represents high end luxury you dont know too much.

You might also be surprised to know that many Guyanese, bringing their non Guyanese kids, if they must stay in a hotel (i.e. their relatives live in hovels, or lack modern amenities), would prefer places liek Cara and others which will offer a more "Guyanese" feel as compared to a nameless, faceless hotel chain like the Marriott.

Put it this way. If they wish lavishness they arent going to Guyana.

BTW have you ever asked yourself whether tourists wish a hotel locate right by your harbor? No ambience in the area.

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where in hell is these rich overseas guyanese.if you talking about

I don't know where you living, but most Guyanese I know, making 6 figures, either alone or easily husband and wife combined.
You think all New York people living in a basement?
Bai, expand your horizon. The very first job interview I went on, the headman was a Guyanese making 7 figures.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

I too have wondered about this and realized that it is hard for any country to compete with China in manufacturing, let alone Guyana with a small population. If they are to compete they would need to increase immigration, bring in Africans, Indians, Chinese and Latin Americans. Caribbean immigrants have generally enjoyed a good standard of living for many years compared to the general African, Chinese and Indian population and are not generally labour oriented, many work in the service industry.


However, Guyana can tap into the packaging and processing industry in the resource and agri sectors, I am not sure why they have lagged in this area, I blame the short sighted and incompetent PPP!!!

I believe that aside from the agri and resource sectors, Guyana's future lies in the knowledge sector and the service sector segment that will inevitably result from these industries. In manufacturing ofconsumer and electronic goods, China is virtually unbeatable. Again what the Guyana government should be doing is at least tap into the assembly sector so that plants can be set up in Guyana to service South America and the Caribbean - PPP incompetence to be blamed for a lack in this area.

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Originally posted by TI:

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where in hell is these rich overseas guyanese.if you talking about

I don't know where you living, but most Guyanese I know, making 6 figures, either alone or easily husband and wife combined.
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First of all you are truly homeless if you think 6 figures makes one rich in NYC.

Second the average Guyanese household in NYC is in the $40-50k range and indeed some claim that RH is more like $35k.

I am willing to bet that 7 figure Guyanese will never go to a Marriott in Guyana. He will think Morriott is too down market.

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Originally posted by TI:

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where in hell is these rich overseas guyanese.if you talking about

I don't know where you living, but most Guyanese I know, making 6 figures, either alone or easily husband and wife combined.
You think all New York people living in a basement?
Bai, expand your horizon. The very first job interview I went on, the headman was a Guyanese making 7 figures.

you fool if you live in north americia and you dont know this, let me explain a few simple things to you.a husband and wife making $60,ooo in north america is a regular person.the bill are morgages, utilies,car payment, insurance,land tax,children school maybe college,entertment,if living in america medicial bills.you add it up per year.now fool if they will take a holiday,they will go where it reasonable,like a all incluseive package,you know what is that ask kwame.which guyanese will come and pay for a expence hotel in guyan

Poli
You speak like you have no idea of contemporary business. What are they going to package and process?
What plants will be set up in Guyana? Auto assembly? You talking about PPP incompetence?
What about private investors incompetence?

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Originally posted by warrior:
you fool if you live in north americia and you dont know this, let me explain a few simple things to you.a husband and wife making $60,ooo in north america is a regular person.

Laughable! You need to add some skillset and go out there and try harder. You missing the gravy boat

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Originally posted by TI:
Poli
You speak like you have no idea of contemporary business. What are they going to package and process?
What plants will be set up in Guyana? Auto assembly? You talking about PPP incompetence?
What about private investors incompetence?

ba--rat is competing with the private investtors.he building one hotel to close a next

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Originally posted by TI:

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Originally posted by warrior:
you fool if you live in north americia and you dont know this, let me explain a few simple things to you.a husband and wife making $60,ooo in north america is a regular person.

Laughable! You need to add some skillset and go out there and try harder. You missing the gravy boat

you right the gravy train is the ppp crime family.i should jump on the band wagon and steal the tax payers money.oh heck my father teach me the right way of life.

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Originally posted by TI:
Poli
You speak like you have no idea of contemporary business. What are they going to package and process?
What plants will be set up in Guyana? Auto assembly? You talking about PPP incompetence?
What about private investors incompetence?

the fact that the country have not tapped into the above industries is because of PP incompetence, they are the government and they have to take the blame.

There are many kinds of Assembly plants that can be established: cars, motor cycles, scooters, bicycles, Computers, large appliances to name a few.

Yes, the private investors in Guyana have a history of lacking innovation and courage, it took one multinational (courts) to change and improve product and service quality in the retail sector. On this account if it means enabling foreign investors to improve quality of goods and services on Guyana then so be it, let the locals compete and if they are good enough they will prevail; its called free enterprise.

One more thing I should point out, the government is pusing the mining and oil industry a lot; what are they they doing at the University of Guyana to provide the experts that would be needed in these areas, are they even offering scholarships to qualified persons to study in these areas overseas or are they wating till its time to shit to build a latrine?

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Originally posted by warrior:
you fool if you live in north americia and you dont know this, let me explain a few simple things to you.a husband and wife making $60,ooo in north america is a regular person.

Perhaps you are talking about Canada. In the US, over half the households survive on less than $55,000. See this chart.

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by warrior:
you fool if you live in north americia and you dont know this, let me explain a few simple things to you.a husband and wife making $60,ooo in north america is a regular person.

Perhaps you are talking about Canada. In the US, over half the households survive on less than $55,000. See this chart.

Please advise the man to seek info on how people leverage assets to create wealth.

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There are many kinds of Assembly plants that can be established: cars, motor cycles, scooters, bicycles, Computers, large appliances to name a few.

Why would I create an assembly line in Guyana when it can be done far cheaper in Mexico? And trucked across the border?
In any event the Asian countries control this market. It is actually cheaper to buy the finished product than to assemble it. Now, if Brazil, a country with assembly line experience, were to set up a plant in Guyana, hear the commotion from the opposition.

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by warrior:
you fool if you live in north americia and you dont know this, let me explain a few simple things to you.a husband and wife making $60,ooo in north america is a regular person.

Perhaps you are talking about Canada. In the US, over half the households survive on less than $55,000. See this chart.

maybe you should educted your other ppp soup drinker.he planing to put these people in your fancy hotel

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Originally posted by TI:


Why would I create an assembly line in Guyana when it can be done far cheaper in Mexico? And trucked across the border?
In any event the Asian countries control this market. It is actually cheaper to buy the finished product than to assemble it. Now, if Brazil, a country with assembly line experience, were to set up a plant in Guyana, hear the commotion from the opposition.

I do agree that even assemby plants would still be a challenge..but have the PPP tried???

Have they done any studies? The government is spending enough money on travelling why not some on a feasibility study???

Look the country has made some progress but this was bound to happen in a country that had hit rock bottom...but in then end they PPP is still an incompetent and corrupt government..

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Originally posted by politikalamity:

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Originally posted by TI:


Why would I create an assembly line in Guyana when it can be done far cheaper in Mexico? And trucked across the border?
In any event the Asian countries control this market. It is actually cheaper to buy the finished product than to assemble it. Now, if Brazil, a country with assembly line experience, were to set up a plant in Guyana, hear the commotion from the opposition.

I do agree that even assemby plants would still be a challenge..but have the PPP tried???

Have they done any studies? The government is spending enough money on travelling why not some on a feasibility study???

Look the country has made some progress but this was bound to happen in a country that had hit rock bottom...but in then end they PPP is still an incompetent and corrupt government..

bear in mind my brother; its more easy to beg and export cocain