I can tell you, manufacturing is locked down by the chinese and other technologically advanced nations. The rest of the caribbean gave up on agriculture long ago because it is no longer profitable, the larger nations with their technology can outproduce and out price guyana. wake up and smell the coffee. hahahahha

Guyana is a beautiful country to visit. For many years Guyana was hidden from the outer world. It's time to open up and allowed people to explore the uncharted rainforest. Manufacturing and agriculture are for local consumption only. Guyana is already exporting its resources like rice, sugar, timber, etc., just to name a few.

Because tey could skim off. Because the have little strategic vision. Tourism is a dead duck.

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
I can tell you, manufacturing is locked down by the chinese and other technologically advanced nations. The rest of the caribbean gave up on agriculture long ago because it is no longer profitable, the larger nations with their technology can outproduce and out price guyana. wake up and smell the coffee. hahahahha

druggie you said Guyana is a horrible country with nothing to interest tourists. So why does the PPP waste money?

Guyanese go home to see family. Unless there is huge group, or their Guyana based family is impoverished why will they not stay with them?

See no need for an expensive brand name hotel in Guyana. If private investors think otherwise they should put their money where their mouth is and finance it 100%.

But then Jagdeo will not be able to reap US$ 1 million from the project.

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Originally posted by Cobra:
It's time to open up and allowed people to explore the uncharted rainforest..

And the best way is to build a hotel overlooking a harbor with little of interest to any one?

Why not focus on upgrading accommodations in interior locations, developing competitive packages, and aggressively promoting Guyana to the eco-adventure market?

Georgetown has no shortage of hotels and few tourists will want to spend more than a day or two there. I have seen enough comments made by them. The rest of coastal Guyana interests them even less.

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Originally posted by Cobra:
Manufacturing and agriculture are for local consumption only. .

Whata simple man. Guyana's best prospects are in developing a thriving agro industrial base.

Your vision for Guyana resembles a village with mud huts and children of starvation waiting for a drop of water to survive. Guyana is far beyond your imagination.

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Originally posted by Cobra:
Your vision for Guyana resembles a village with mud huts and children of starvation waiting for a drop of water to survive. Guyana is far beyond your imagination.

This is where Guyana will eb after the PPP wastes money in hotels that are not needed, fancy airports, sugar factories that dont work...and a president who spends more time with drug dealers than with any one else.

Take it form me. Food will be the most valuable commodity soon as global warming leads to collapsing harvests in many places. Those who can grow, process and export food are good to go.


But you prefer ANOTHER EMPTY hotel in Gtwn....eventually closed after Marriott decides their management fees paid to them are inadequate due to this fact.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

Because the rate of return to pocket more is greater with the tourish industry, less accountability, as if there is any.

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The rest of the caribbean gave up on agriculture long ago because it is no longer profitable, the larger nations with their technology can outproduce and out price guyana.

So you are suggesting that we import everything since it makes no sense to grow our own food and sell the excess to the rest of the Caribbean?
Bai as the world population increases, so will the demand for more food. Your suggestion that the larger nation can out produce us flies in the face of facts. Neither India nor China are capable of producing enough food to feed their population. But nobody doubt their increased presence on the world trade market. SO who are they buying food from? From a lot of poor African countries, or from Brazil, or next door neighbour.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Anybody knows why? Most of the big money projects involves foreign investors setting up entertainment related businesses in Guyana. Many with the financial help of the PPP. Profits are then syphoned out of Guyana.

But where are the same level of spending to create manufacturing and agricultural jobs? With our fertile soil we should be the bread basket of the Caribbean. Instead we are a source of cheap, and mostly illegal, labour to many islands in the Caribbean.

So what's the score? Anyone knows what's behind the policy, and what's the strategy for growth?

Tourism is the fastest way to get liquid cash. It also supports service industries.

Mr T.
Yu ever farm? All these people who talking about breadbasket ever set foot in a field? It's hard work.

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
I can tell you, manufacturing is locked down by the chinese and other technologically advanced nations. The rest of the caribbean gave up on agriculture long ago because it is no longer profitable, the larger nations with their technology can outproduce and out price guyana. wake up and smell the coffee. hahahahha

the ppp crime family is not smelling no coffee.these crimicals is smelling the cocain.why plant or manufacture when you can ship cocain.

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Originally posted by TI:
Mr T.
Yu ever farm? All these people who talking about breadbasket ever set foot in a field? It's hard work.

Bai my family was making their fortune from farming untill the PNC thugs came and stole all our poultry cows and pigs, then burned down the farm house and raided the fields of all what we planted and sold. We moved to Berbice to continue farming, but once Burnham started banning the importation of fertilizers and packet seeds we had to give up.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by TI:
Mr T.
Yu ever farm? All these people who talking about breadbasket ever set foot in a field? It's hard work.

Bai my family was making their fortune from farming untill the PNC thugs came and stole all our poultry cows and pigs, then burned down the farm house and raided the fields of all what we planted and sold. We moved to Berbice to continue farming, but once Burnham started banning the importation of fertilizers and packet seeds we had to give up.

i guess you is a black man because the indian people still belive in farming,it dont matter who rule guyana the indian people will farm.in the whole history of rice farming in guyana,the indian people make the most money when hoyte was ruling.facts

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Originally posted by warrior:
i guess you is a black man because the indian people still belive in farming,it dont matter who rule guyana the indian people will farm.in the whole history of rice farming in guyana,the indian people make the most money when hoyte was ruling.facts

I am not, but race is not an issue. Your comment on the Indian ppl still farming under the PNC is very important however. There were a lot of PPP collaborators funding the PNC during those dark days.

Isn't coke considered an agricultural product?

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Why is the PPP investing in tourism but not in manufacturing and agriculture?

It's easier to launder money or tief taxpayers money using the Hotel/Casino business. Buddy's Hotel being a prime example.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by warrior:
i guess you is a black man because the indian people still belive in farming,it dont matter who rule guyana the indian people will farm.in the whole history of rice farming in guyana,the indian people make the most money when hoyte was ruling.facts

I am not, but race is not an issue. Your comment on the Indian ppl still farming under the PNC is very important however. There were a lot of PPP collaborators funding the PNC during those dark days.

when hoyte take over the pnc,i dont consider it as dark days.infact the country start to inprove.and one of thethings that the indian people should be happy about then is the crime rate went down.infact it was way lower than it is taday

Warrow Kyat,

How do you explain crime in the US where law enforcement is nowhere near corrupt like the GPF nor the economy is as bad as Guyana's?

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Warrow Kyat,

How do you explain crime in the US where law enforcement is nowhere near corrupt like the GPF nor the economy is as bad as Guyana's?

when i think of people like you that is running the government it scare the shit out of me.now the GPF is CORRUP and the guyana economy is bad.you guys have to make up your mind

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Warrow Kyat,

How do you explain crime in the US where law enforcement is nowhere near corrupt like the GPF nor the economy is as bad as Guyana's?

How do the statistics compare percentage wise?

When you people speak of Hoyte you speak as if he had some kind of magical power. The economy was terrible under Hoyte and crime was rampant. He made cosmetic changes that did very little for Guyana. Real economic changes began around 1993. The Custom & Excise Dept. reported revenues of 1 billion dollars in the last year of the PNC gov't which was 1992. In the first full year of the PPP/Civic gov't revenues collected amounted to 19 billion dollars. Off course, trade picked up but the real difference came from people not stealing as they did before.

Warrow, please find out how much revenue the Custom and Excise Dept. collected in 2010 and then gauged against the last year of the PNC gov't in office. We want to make a comparison and from that we will make a logical deduction(s).


That's project for you.

Good luck and do your best. Professor Nehru of York College will review your findings/

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Warrow Kyat,

How do you explain crime in the US where law enforcement is nowhere near corrupt like the GPF nor the economy is as bad as Guyana's?

How do the statistics compare percentage wise?

Mr.T,

For a man who lives in City of London you does ask some stupid questions. My question to him is to elucidate what's really behind crime in the US and Guyana. It's not merely meant to compare statistical differences. It's about what triggers the individual to become a criminal be it genetics or environmental factors.

Bhai, Dont waste time with this Chap. He terrible at Math, English, Econ, Commerce, Finance and Speech.

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
When you people speak of Hoyte you speak as if he had some kind of magical power. The economy was terrible under Hoyte and crime was rampant. He made cosmetic changes that did very little for Guyana. Real economic changes began around 1993. The Custom & Excise Dept. reported revenues of 1 billion dollars in the last year of the PNC gov't which was 1992. In the first full year of the PPP/Civic gov't revenues collected amounted to 19 billion dollars. Off course, trade picked up but the real difference came from people not stealing as they did before.

Warrow, please find out how much revenue the Custom and Excise Dept. collected in 2010 and then gauged against the last year of the PNC gov't in office. We want to make a comparison and from that we will make a logical deduction(s).


That's project for you.

Good luck and do your best. Professor Nehru of York College will review your findings/

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
When you people speak of Hoyte you speak as if he had some kind of magical power. The economy was terrible under Hoyte and crime was rampant. He made cosmetic changes that did very little for Guyana. Real economic changes began around 1993. The Custom & Excise Dept. reported revenues of 1 billion dollars in the last year of the PNC gov't which was 1992. In the first full year of the PPP/Civic gov't revenues collected amounted to 19 billion dollars. Off course, trade picked up but the real difference came from people not stealing as they did before.

Warrow, please find out how much revenue the Custom and Excise Dept. collected in 2010 and then gauged against the last year of the PNC gov't in office. We want to make a comparison and from that we will make a logical deduction(s).


That's project for you.

Good luck and do your best. Professor Nehru of York College will review your findings/

billy goat you asking your question and answering your self.what is inportant to ask,is lets look at the assets of the ministers then and the ministers now the president house then and the pre now

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
My question to him is to elucidate what's really behind crime in the US and Guyana. It's not merely meant to compare statistical differences. It's about what triggers the individual to become a criminal be it genetics or environmental factors.

Drugs and alcohol are prime candidates in both countries. How do they stack up?

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhai, Dont waste time with this Chap. He terrible at Math, English, Econ, Commerce, Finance and Speech.

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
When you people speak of Hoyte you speak as if he had some kind of magical power. The economy was terrible under Hoyte and crime was rampant. He made cosmetic changes that did very little for Guyana. Real economic changes began around 1993. The Custom & Excise Dept. reported revenues of 1 billion dollars in the last year of the PNC gov't which was 1992. In the first full year of the PPP/Civic gov't revenues collected amounted to 19 billion dollars. Off course, trade picked up but the real difference came from people not stealing as they did before.

Warrow, please find out how much revenue the Custom and Excise Dept. collected in 2010 and then gauged against the last year of the PNC gov't in office. We want to make a comparison and from that we will make a logical deduction(s).


That's project for you.

Good luck and do your best. Professor Nehru of York College will review your findings/

why don you crawl back into your rum bottle

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Warrow Kyat,

How do you explain crime in the US ?

NYC is way safer than Guyana, You must visit us...this in a nation where one can buy guns as easily as groceries in some states.

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
When you people speak of Hoyte you speak as if he had some kind of magical power. The economy was terrible under Hoyte and crime was rampant. /

The economy gean to grow in 1991 and 1992 and a few years after. This being due in part to Hoyte, as the liberalization of the economy was the cause. Hoyte finally sidelined the Burnhamist crowd by 1989.

It began to stagnate after 1998. Recent growth is in construction and in retail, all due to remittances passing through the economy. Except for gold there has been little real growth. Gold prices having nothing to do with the PPP.

Janet Jagan used to cry every night over what Hoyte had done. Thanks to him she couldnt figure out how to turn Guyana into a communist paradise that Marx and Castro would have bene proud of. It took her a while to allow the PPP to stop claiming to be a Marxist Leninist party. Indeed even Ramotar was boasting about that not too long ago.

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Originally posted by Cobra:
Guyana is a beautiful country to visit. For many years Guyana was hidden from the outer world. It's time to open up and allowed people to explore the uncharted rainforest. Manufacturing and agriculture are for local consumption only. Guyana is already exporting its resources like rice, sugar, timber, etc., just to name a few.

Very true... a beautiful country. Europeans are now making their way into Guyana's beautiful rainforest, whereas in the past, they never knew of it and visited other South American and Latin American countries.
We don't have the white beaches of Jamaica or other islands, but we have something of great value to many scholars, academics and nature seekers. We need to capitalize on our natural beauty in tourism.

Also,many Guyanese who have left in the 70s and 80s, now bring their grown children to see their parents' birth country and you would be amazed when the kids play in the yard and run around on the streets, how happy they are. They are not in a hurry to return to England or North America.

Our natural resources are not sufficient to sustain us as a nation, so we must look to other opportunities, including hosting international sports games, such as World Cup Cricket, or meetings of the Secretariat of Latin American nations.

Let us look to the positive and develop solutions.

The Government will need to continue to develop and grow the nation...

Credit must be given to Jagdeo for his training as an Economist. Guyana needed him at the time of his appointment and he had to look first to seeking ways to get rid of the debt that the PNC left the country in.

Everything else is gravy.

Those of you who think that the PPP has not invested in agriculture need your heads to examined.

Is pot considered agriculture? Just asking.

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Originally posted by Apollo:
Very true... a beautiful country. Europeans are now making their way into Guyana's beautiful rainforest,...

How many of them. 500 per year, a couple hundred on cruises.

But then why spend so much money in ANOTHER hotel in georgetown when teh Europeans ahve scant interest in that town, and virtually none in the rest of the coast. A day of St georges, Ave of the Republic, Stabroek market (hopefully they will not get mugged), and they are off to the interior. Dont take them to the zoo otherwise there will be an international campaign by the naturists deploring cruelty to animals.

But you have scant amenities in the interior. Ought not taxpayer's money gone to build an "upscale" inetrior lodge with full amenities and a range of activities (horse riding, white water rafting, animal watching, etc).

No ANOTHER hotel in Gtwn and babble about Guyana's attractions, few being in that city, and few being easily accessable fropm that city.

Note the kids run around the yard, where their relatives live. They have no interest in running around Marriott, which will be no different from other hotels in North America.

To waste taxdollars on beuinding amenities for the occassiobal conference or two seems like what those African dictators do, while the hotels fall into disrepair until the next conference.

There will NEVER be another CWC in the Caribbean. It is the general consensus that EVERY one lost $$$ on that fiasco.

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Originally posted by Apollo:
Credit must be given to Jagdeo for his training as an Economist. .

Guyana remains the poorest nation in the English speaking Caribbean. Its peoples forced to beg an entry into tiny rocks and coral reefs in order so their families can eb fed.

Oh well. Thats progress to you.

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Apollo:
Credit must be given to Jagdeo for his training as an Economist. .

Guyana remains the poorest nation in the English speaking Caribbean. Its peoples forced to beg an entry into tiny rocks and coral reefs in order so their families can eb fed.

Oh well. Thats progress to you.

Guyana is richer than all the countries in the english speaking caribben put together..

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Apollo:
Credit must be given to Jagdeo for his training as an Economist. .

Guyana remains the poorest nation in the English speaking Caribbean. Its peoples forced to beg an entry into tiny rocks and coral reefs in order so their families can eb fed.

Oh well. Thats progress to you.

Guyana is richer than all the countries in the english speaking caribben put together..

You holding the chart upside down drunkie. Ease up on the sagi wang.

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Originally posted by baseman:
Because tey could skim off. Because the have little strategic vision. Tourism is a dead duck.

Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture. As usual the AFC snake oil salesmen at work making foolish claims.

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Originally posted by caribj:

druggie you said Guyana is a horrible country with nothing to interest tourists. So why does the PPP waste money?

Guyanese go home to see family. Unless there is huge group, or their Guyana based family is impoverished why will they not stay with them?

See no need for an expensive brand name hotel in Guyana. If private investors think otherwise they should put their money where their mouth is and finance it 100%.

But then Jagdeo will not be able to reap US$ 1 million from the project.

I don't know the details of the marriot hotel, you seem to know more than the rest of us. I do agree that it should be a privately financed project sticking to my belief that govt should not be involved in private sector. Nevertheless the Marriot brand will be good for the nation regardless of who finances it. It will be an internationally recognized brand for foreign dignitaries and wealthy visitors. You will be surprised how many millionaire Guyanese are in this world ready to visit if accommodations are available to suit their standards.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
So you are suggesting that we import everything since it makes no sense to grow our own food and sell the excess to the rest of the Caribbean?
Bai as the world population increases, so will the demand for more food. Your suggestion that the larger nation can out produce us flies in the face of facts. Neither India nor China are capable of producing enough food to feed their population. But nobody doubt their increased presence on the world trade market. SO who are they buying food from? From a lot of poor African countries, or from Brazil, or next door neighbour.

Where did I make this suggestion? Govt should not be investing in any private enterprise. They should only act as facilitators rather than owners of business. If manufacturing or agriculture is profitable then the more efficient private sector will invest. It is how capitalism works.

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:

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Originally posted by baseman:
Because tey could skim off. Because the have little strategic vision. Tourism is a dead duck.

Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture. As usual the AFC snake oil salesmen at work making foolish claims.

when guyana get blue water and white sand on their beaches let me know.have you ever heard about all inclusive packages. when guyana get that let me know

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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
]Then you can say the same of the rest of the Caribbean which has abandoned manufacturing and agriculture.

So where they getting their fresh fruits aand vegetables from? Guyana?
Before Du Casse raised all those plantations to the ground around 1705, what is now Guyana used to be one of the bread basket of Europe. No island in the Caribbean has such fertile land, abundance of water, and keen workforce. But neither the PPP government, nor its rich backers, are willing to invest and harvest the land. The small individual farmers don't have the capital or size of land to make it a productive exercise.
The PPP regime and its financiers prefer a quick buck from fleecing tourists in hotels and casinos. Those are not being built to exploit tourism travel to the interior. No, they are being built to keep as much of the tourist spending to a mere handful of location. In other words, the money is not filtering through to people outside of the circle.

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Originally posted by the new yorker:
Isn't coke considered an agricultural product?

Yes, but it needs chemical manufacturing. It would definitely create jobs and jumpstart poor economies.
There is also a great demand in the U.S.A. so this would be an excellent choice for developing nations if approved. The legal marijuana business is thriving in California. I would legalize the growing of marijuana in Guyana and exporting to the U.S. clinics.