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South America's second poorest nation is bracing for an oil boom that could catapult it to the top of the continent's rich list - and beyond. But can Guyana avoid the so-called oil curse and ensure that its newfound riches benefit all Guyanese?

"Many people still do not get how big this is," then-US Ambassador to Guyana Perry Holloway told a reception in the capital, Georgetown, last November.

"Come 2025, GDP will go up by 300% to 1,000%. This is gigantic. You will be the richest country in the hemisphere and potentially the richest country in the world."

It may sound far-fetched, but with a population of around 750,000, in per capita terms, Guyana's wealth is set to skyrocket. ExxonMobil, the main operator in Guyana, says it has discovered more than 5.5 billion barrels' worth of oil beneath the country's waters in the Atlantic Ocean.

'Oil curse'

The money would certainly be welcome. This former British colony - the only English-speaking country in South America - has high rates of unemployment and poverty.

But history carries a warning for Guyana. The discovery of big oil in other developing nations has exacerbated existing corruption, leading to the new oil wealth being squandered and stolen. It has become known as the oil curse.

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In Guyana, "corruption is rampant," says Troy Thomas, the head of the local chapter of global anti-corruption NGO Transparency International. He says he is "very worried" about the oil curse. A political crisis in recent months has been seen by some as an early sign of the curse's effects.

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Image captionTroy Thomas is one of those worried about the possible effect of the "oil curse"

After the governing coalition lost a no-confidence vote in December, rather than call elections it challenged the vote in the courts.

That has led to protests.

"All we're asking for is for the government to respect our constitution," a demonstrator tells me, standing on the road outside Guyana's ministry of the presidency. "They just want to remain in power and control the oil money," she adds.

The legal battle has continued and this week the Caribbean Court of Justice is hearing the latest appeal in the case.

Betting on education

"We've seen the experiences in other countries," says Vincent Adams, the new head of Guyana's Environmental Protection Agency, who worked for three decades at the US Department of Energy. "They got all this oil wealth and a lot of those countries are now worse off than before oil."

Photo of Vincent Adams
Image captionVincent Adams says education is key to avoid falling into the trap others before them have

For Mr Adams, there is one key to avoiding that trap: "Education, education, education is the foundation. It's the best investment that this country or any country can make."

He is leading a push to revamp the faculty of engineering at the University of Guyana, the country's biggest higher education provider. But preparing young Guyanese for the lucrative new industry has not been straightforward.

"Unfortunately for us, we don't have right now labs for a petroleum engineering programme," says Elena Trim, the dean of the faculty.

It has also been a challenge attracting academic talent with the relevant expertise.

"Our salaries are not that high," she says with an ironic chuckle. "So people are applying to the University of Guyana and when we tell them our salary level, they actually don't want to take the offer."

Nonetheless, even at this early stage, Guyana's oil industry has already been taking on the faculty's graduates from other engineering specialisms. Two years ago, 10 were given jobs. Last year, the same company asked for 20 more.

"Now they [are] taking our students like hotcakes," says Ms Trim.

Scepticism abounds

In Sophia, one of Georgetown's poorest neighbourhoods, there is less optimism. Some of the self-built houses and shacks only got access to electricity and running water this century.

"Quite frankly, in this community, it's close to 10% of the city's population who live here, but 10% of the city's resources are not being spent in here," Colin Marks tells me at the youth centre he set up.

A view of children in front of the youth centre in Sophia
Image captionColin Marks fears the potential new riches will not benefit the community

That helps to explain the scepticism about how far the benefits of oil will spread.

"Most people are sensitive to it. Because there's more negativity on what it could do for Guyana than positivity. And that's happening because what is happening at the political level. I mean, you're hearing about what happened in Guinea, what happened in Nigeria - Venezuela's next door, you know. So people are very, very sensitive, and not too sure."

"In a grassroots community like this, people just want know that if there is money in oil, we want a share of it. We want to benefit from it."

 

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The GDP per capita of Trinidad is $16k which is the same for Venezuela and Barbados.  Guyana's GDP per capita is $4.5K.  If the economy increase by 300% then our GDP will be just about what is those aforementioned countries.  I see the benefits will come years after the first oil monies trickle in.  Development takes time  and a very much long time.  

Billy Ram Balgobin
antabanta posted:
Stormborn posted:
For Mr Adams, there is one key to avoiding that trap: "Education, education, education is the foundation. It's the best investment that this country or any country can make."

I concur. Education is the key to a more democratic and transparent governance and to progress.

Cuba is a very educated society.  Where is the democracy?

Prashad
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Stormborn posted:
For Mr Adams, there is one key to avoiding that trap: "Education, education, education is the foundation. It's the best investment that this country or any country can make."

I concur. Education is the key to a more democratic and transparent governance and to progress.

Cuba is a very educated society.  Where is the democracy?

The people, being well-educated, democratically decided they're better off with a one-party republic. Don't you have the same thing planned for your coolie republic?

A
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Stormborn posted:
For Mr Adams, there is one key to avoiding that trap: "Education, education, education is the foundation. It's the best investment that this country or any country can make."

I concur. Education is the key to a more democratic and transparent governance and to progress.

Cuba is a very educated society.  Where is the democracy?

The people, being well-educated, democratically decided they're better off with a one-party republic. Don't you have the same thing planned for your coolie republic?

I never said so. It must be democratic and free.

Prashad
Prashad posted:

Skills should be the focus. A Cuban can make a complete car windscreen in his back yard so should Guyanese. Also finding a local product to replace limestone in cement to make local cement should be a priority. Become self sufficient in powder milk.

So your priorities would be self-sufficiency for car windscreens, cement, and powder milk. Should they trade for other items that cannot be locally produced or do without?

A
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:

The people, being well-educated, democratically decided they're better off with a one-party republic. Don't you have the same thing planned for your coolie republic?

I never said so. It must be democratic and free.

Democracy to date has been a fallacy, just like communism. Democracy as we know it is a means of scamming the common people into believing they are free and have a say in governance.

A
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

It depends on what kind of education we are talking about. Educating people to be wordsmith won't help them to solve analytical problems. People have to learn about how to run a business which includes a corporation. 

Just send them to Western universities to study the sciences, business, and forget about the arts. 

The arts foster creativity and are critical for culture. No society can prosper without the arts. What will happen to people who are not interested in the sciences and business?

A
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antabanta posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

It depends on what kind of education we are talking about. Educating people to be wordsmith won't help them to solve analytical problems. People have to learn about how to run a business which includes a corporation. 

Just send them to Western universities to study the sciences, business, and forget about the arts. 

The arts foster creativity and are critical for culture. No society can prosper without the arts. What will happen to people who are not interested in the sciences and business?

A third world or developing countries like Guyana need to prioritize carefully by placing the study of the sciences and business on the front burners.  Culture will be there and evolve. The Chinese wasted decades behind cultural activities thinking that the transformation of the ancient and superstitions of thousands of years will transform China. As good as it sounded it had too many drawbacks. The Cultural revolution brought deaths, famines, and all sorts of human miseries. The great leap forward failed because of China's focus on cultural changes to Chinese society.

Deng saw the errors and called for a transformation through education, but a greater emphasis on the sciences and business. China's success is undeniably a miracle.  

Guyana needs to hurriedly educate her people along a different line that will bear great dividend now and in the future.

Billy Ram Balgobin
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China's success, largely, is due the Bill Clinton when he gave them most favored nation status. With that move, American Businesses increased their profits from Chinese cheap labor cost, Clinton's Charity recieved tons of money from American Businesses and the Chinese reaped the rewards of manufacturing that if a great many ppl are involved in manufacturing, the economic life is prosperous. America lost its manufacturing and a great many became poor. 

The Chinese made good use of the opportunity and developed in all other fields. 

S
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

A third world or developing countries like Guyana need to prioritize carefully by placing the study of the sciences and business on the front burners.  Culture will be there and evolve. The Chinese wasted decades behind cultural activities thinking that the transformation of the ancient and superstitions of thousands of years will transform China. As good as it sounded it had too many drawbacks. The Cultural revolution brought deaths, famines, and all sorts of human miseries. The great leap forward failed because of China's focus on cultural changes to Chinese society.

Deng saw the errors and called for a transformation through education, but a greater emphasis on the sciences and business. China's success is undeniably a miracle.  

Guyana needs to hurriedly educate her people along a different line that will bear great dividend now and in the future.

No one is proposing a cultural transformation or wasting decades behind cultural activities but the arts cannot be dismissed as a waste of time because the arts preserve culture which is critical to prosperity if only by creating a sense of belonging. Of course STEM is critical for development in countless number of ways. You cannot completely ignore the arts in favor of engineering and science. Again, what will happen to those people without any aptitude for science and engineering? Just look what music has done for Jamaica globally. Endgame has so far grossed over 1.2 billion. Books chronicle for perpetuity. Works of art are considered valuable. One good song can make the artiste a multi-millionaire over night. Why? Because the arts resonate with people subjectively and on a grand scale. You won't understand it until you miss it.

A
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antabanta posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

A third world or developing countries like Guyana need to prioritize carefully by placing the study of the sciences and business on the front burners.  Culture will be there and evolve. The Chinese wasted decades behind cultural activities thinking that the transformation of the ancient and superstitions of thousands of years will transform China. As good as it sounded it had too many drawbacks. The Cultural revolution brought deaths, famines, and all sorts of human miseries. The great leap forward failed because of China's focus on cultural changes to Chinese society.

Deng saw the errors and called for a transformation through education, but a greater emphasis on the sciences and business. China's success is undeniably a miracle.  

Guyana needs to hurriedly educate her people along a different line that will bear great dividend now and in the future.

No one is proposing a cultural transformation or wasting decades behind cultural activities but the arts cannot be dismissed as a waste of time because the arts preserve culture which is critical to prosperity if only by creating a sense of belonging. Of course STEM is critical for development in countless number of ways. You cannot completely ignore the arts in favor of engineering and science. Again, what will happen to those people without any aptitude for science and engineering? Just look what music has done for Jamaica globally. Endgame has so far grossed over 1.2 billion. Books chronicle for perpetuity. Works of art are considered valuable. One good song can make the artiste a multi-millionaire over night. Why? Because the arts resonate with people subjectively and on a grand scale. You won't understand it until you miss it.

I agree with you. 

On CNN a long time ago, the question was asked of the muslims (and I mean the real muslims), how can a world exist without music, literature, dance and the expressions of the imagination.

I do not think the real muslims who object to the arts misses anything of it. A person's mind can be conditioned.    

S
seignet posted:
antabanta posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

A third world or developing countries like Guyana need to prioritize carefully by placing the study of the sciences and business on the front burners.  Culture will be there and evolve. The Chinese wasted decades behind cultural activities thinking that the transformation of the ancient and superstitions of thousands of years will transform China. As good as it sounded it had too many drawbacks. The Cultural revolution brought deaths, famines, and all sorts of human miseries. The great leap forward failed because of China's focus on cultural changes to Chinese society.

Deng saw the errors and called for a transformation through education, but a greater emphasis on the sciences and business. China's success is undeniably a miracle.  

Guyana needs to hurriedly educate her people along a different line that will bear great dividend now and in the future.

No one is proposing a cultural transformation or wasting decades behind cultural activities but the arts cannot be dismissed as a waste of time because the arts preserve culture which is critical to prosperity if only by creating a sense of belonging. Of course STEM is critical for development in countless number of ways. You cannot completely ignore the arts in favor of engineering and science. Again, what will happen to those people without any aptitude for science and engineering? Just look what music has done for Jamaica globally. Endgame has so far grossed over 1.2 billion. Books chronicle for perpetuity. Works of art are considered valuable. One good song can make the artiste a multi-millionaire over night. Why? Because the arts resonate with people subjectively and on a grand scale. You won't understand it until you miss it.

I agree with you. 

On CNN a long time ago, the question was asked of the muslims (and I mean the real muslims), how can a world exist without music, literature, dance and the expressions of the imagination.

I do not think the real muslims who object to the arts misses anything of it. A person's mind can be conditioned.    

Seig what do you mean by real muslims  is it "The white Arabs" not the converted brown peoples like the Pakis, Chief and the keffer?

Prashad

My son is just 16 years old but you should hear his perspective on why most countries producing oil don't end up benefiting its citizens. Not going to give away his argument but has to do with where their wealth is generated, accumulated and stored. Ordinary Guyanese thinking that they will all need large safes to store their oil wealth could be in for a rude awakening. Although Guyana has more than just one one pony show as many of the other failed oil producing countries has.

FM

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

FM
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

You really believe that it is the function of govt to reconcile ethnic discontent? 

First you have to clearly define the discontent on all sides then define a strategy of resolving them to at least start the debate. Instead folks like you continue to be vague and shy away from confronting the details. 

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

FM
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

You really believe that it is the function of govt to reconcile ethnic discontent? 

First you have to clearly define the discontent on all sides then define a strategy of resolving them to at least start the debate. Instead folks like you continue to be vague and shy away from confronting the details. 

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

The function of government or any organization is to ameliorate discontent of all sorts. I do not have to define anything. It is there for you to see only with a bit of self reflection. 

FM
Drugb posted:

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

I actually agree.  However, still governments plays a major role in ensuring proper and adequate wealth distributed and not left to survival of the fittest. 

Govt involvement is education, health, housing and economic policies are critical!

Its not only about wealth, it’s about perception and equity.  

FM
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

You really believe that it is the function of govt to reconcile ethnic discontent? 

First you have to clearly define the discontent on all sides then define a strategy of resolving them to at least start the debate. Instead folks like you continue to be vague and shy away from confronting the details. 

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

The function of government or any organization is to ameliorate discontent of all sorts. I do not have to define anything. It is there for you to see only with a bit of self reflection. 

Hogwash, govt can only legislate as the law allows to prevent discriminant practices. They can't legislate good manners and civility.  They pnc have done a wonderful job of this so far, especially the widespread purging of indos from govt jobs and highhandedness of police when dealing with indos. 

FM
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

You really believe that it is the function of govt to reconcile ethnic discontent? 

First you have to clearly define the discontent on all sides then define a strategy of resolving them to at least start the debate. Instead folks like you continue to be vague and shy away from confronting the details. 

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

The function of government or any organization is to ameliorate discontent of all sorts. I do not have to define anything. It is there for you to see only with a bit of self reflection. 

Hogwash, govt can only legislate as the law allows to prevent discriminant practices. They can't legislate good manners and civility.  They pnc have done a wonderful job of this so far, especially the widespread purging of indos from govt jobs and highhandedness of police when dealing with indos. 

You are a mal educated ignoramus or you would know the majority of the states on the planet are recent creations ( since the idea of countries are only about 200 years old) The national welfare state paradigm instituted in the late 18 century sought ways to bring competing groups together so they can trust each other and co exist in the state and foster a communal nationalism.

The history of the US from colonial times have been trying to craft as they say a more perfect union.  The articles of confederation then its constitution and supporting documents rationalizing this process ( some 85 federalist papers) detailed a process of creating a new and different human community from a plurality of people identified by class, race, religion and creed. Each time some impediment to communal well being occurs there is auto-correction and with often crafting of new strategies. The civilrights act of '64 got you here. Previous to that you would be at the back of the bus.

We have no such seminal document fostering a communitarian co existence. We have no political party aiding in crafting a summoning creed. The result is proliferation of vile racist nutcases that exist here on this board for example and those insular nits like you who are hopelessly lost and bereft of any idea community while organic is guided by systems of organizing. 

FM
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

What you seek is an ideal. Unfortunately, that is not reality. And it is not limited to just Guyana although it seems more pronounced in Guyana. As we speak of the elephant in the room at the CCJ, take a look at all the proceedings. Mendes is from Trinidad while Courtenay is from Belize. Yet Mendes had an Indian law clerk while Courtenay had a black law clerk. Another Coalition lawyer had another black law clerk while another PPP lawyer had another Indian law clerk. All the PPP lawyers were Indians or close to it while all the Coalition lawyers were blacks. That level of balkanization is very pronounced in Guyana and it is being perpetuated by all the powers that be.

FM
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

You really believe that it is the function of govt to reconcile ethnic discontent? 

First you have to clearly define the discontent on all sides then define a strategy of resolving them to at least start the debate. Instead folks like you continue to be vague and shy away from confronting the details. 

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

The function of government or any organization is to ameliorate discontent of all sorts. I do not have to define anything. It is there for you to see only with a bit of self reflection. 

Hogwash, govt can only legislate as the law allows to prevent discriminant practices. They can't legislate good manners and civility.  They pnc have done a wonderful job of this so far, especially the widespread purging of indos from govt jobs and highhandedness of police when dealing with indos. 

You are a mal educated ignoramus or you would know the majority of the states on the planet are recent creations ( since the idea of countries are only about 200 years old) The national welfare state paradigm instituted in the late 18 century sought ways to bring competing groups together so they can trust each other and co exist in the state and foster a communal nationalism.

The history of the US from colonial times have been trying to craft as they say a more perfect union.  The articles of confederation then its constitution and supporting documents rationalizing this process ( some 85 federalist papers) detailed a process of creating a new and different human community from a plurality of people identified by class, race, religion and creed. Each time some impediment to communal well being occurs there is auto-correction and with often crafting of new strategies. The civilrights act of '64 got you here. Previous to that you would be at the back of the bus.

We have no such seminal document fostering a communitarian co existence. We have no political party aiding in crafting a summoning creed. The result is proliferation of vile racist nutcases that exist here on this board for example and those insular nits like you who are hopelessly lost and bereft of any idea community while organic is guided by systems of organizing. 

Banna, you have time to waste.  There is a saying, where ignorance is bliss....

FM
Baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:

Sad to say you are all wishful thinkers. It is not that you are not thinking straight but no one mentioned the elephant in the room; our ethnic discontents. We distrust each other profoundly and our views of the world are irreconcilable if framed by party politics which is ideologically ethnic centric and highly balkanized. 

Neither the PPP or the PNC has proposed anything close to a strategy to bring us close together. What is unfolding in the CCJ will only serve to drive us further apart. The PNC grasp of the constitution is that it is a document that transcends party paramountacy to executive paramountacy. No one can challenge the Presidency and the Legislature is for show. It has no authority for independent thinking. Unfortunately, the PPP falls in like a good soldier with this belief system also.

 

You really believe that it is the function of govt to reconcile ethnic discontent? 

First you have to clearly define the discontent on all sides then define a strategy of resolving them to at least start the debate. Instead folks like you continue to be vague and shy away from confronting the details. 

Why is it that ethnic difference is the elephant in the room? We have many ethnicity in the US and somehow muddle through. The fact is that once belly and pockets full, ethnic differences tend to go to the wayside. Live and let live.  

The function of government or any organization is to ameliorate discontent of all sorts. I do not have to define anything. It is there for you to see only with a bit of self reflection. 

Hogwash, govt can only legislate as the law allows to prevent discriminant practices. They can't legislate good manners and civility.  They pnc have done a wonderful job of this so far, especially the widespread purging of indos from govt jobs and highhandedness of police when dealing with indos. 

You are a mal educated ignoramus or you would know the majority of the states on the planet are recent creations ( since the idea of countries are only about 200 years old) The national welfare state paradigm instituted in the late 18 century sought ways to bring competing groups together so they can trust each other and co exist in the state and foster a communal nationalism.

The history of the US from colonial times have been trying to craft as they say a more perfect union.  The articles of confederation then its constitution and supporting documents rationalizing this process ( some 85 federalist papers) detailed a process of creating a new and different human community from a plurality of people identified by class, race, religion and creed. Each time some impediment to communal well being occurs there is auto-correction and with often crafting of new strategies. The civilrights act of '64 got you here. Previous to that you would be at the back of the bus.

We have no such seminal document fostering a communitarian co existence. We have no political party aiding in crafting a summoning creed. The result is proliferation of vile racist nutcases that exist here on this board for example and those insular nits like you who are hopelessly lost and bereft of any idea community while organic is guided by systems of organizing. 

Banna, you have time to waste.  There is a saying, where ignorance is bliss....

doan say that .......................

S

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