You poor people still hurting because PPP LOST.

This thread shows the mentality of Guyanese.

Here we have positions filled mostly with PPP cronies...mostly East Indian...EhEh..so their party (PPP) lost the election now it's time to cull the herd...remove the dead weight...replace with what we hope is better stock...now we got people crying because is only Indians being turfed.

Whatderass yall expect them to do fire some putagees, blacks, Amerinds that never held these positions??

We now hear..

ETHNIC CLEANSIING....HAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THIS HAS NOW BECOME A FKIN JOKE.

LMAO!!!!! East Indian teefman getting caught and fired now qualifies as "ethnic cleansing". Ah gon dead wid laff hay!

And you know this!!!!

I am an authority on guyana the as I am an authority on physics, computing, mathematics etc because it is what one does in pursuit of interests.  One knows as one desires to know.  They do not sit back like a chronic old racist hack and yap about cassava and piwari and believe they make sense.

100s silently forced to resign – Opposition Leader Jagdeo

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

APNU/AFC Govt “witch hunt”

Less than six months after the A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) coalition took office, hundreds of people are being “quietly terminated”, because of their ethnicity and/or their perceived political affiliation, Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo claimed.

 

The United Nations will soon have to intervene in Guyana to stop the Ethnic Cleansing policy of the PNC.

Every time a PPP thief get catch he shouts ethnic cleansing. And that's after the PPP operated several death squads to terminate the lives of mostly black Guyanese men over a 23 year period. The UN should investigate the disappearance of all the Guyanese who refused to vote PPP.

There is a lot of truth regarding the harassment of East Indians perceived to be PPP supporters. A family member of mine was constantly harassed. He always voted AFC. He is kind of like a maverick like me...so he stood his ground and fought. The problem is the PPP has no credibility. And when they use Raj Singh and Dindyal as the model of victimization no one except the Indo racists will take them seriously.

TK, "harrassment" is one thing . . . deplorable, and in most cases not policy driven, hence curable before disease sets in

taking away someone's livelihood through ethnic cleansing is a whole different monster

we should never conflate the 2

Ethnic cleansing means one group is killing and imprisoning the other in a systematic manner so as to create a pure homogenous group. As far as I am aware, this has never occurred in Guyana whether it the early 1960s inter-ethnic riots/killings or the deadly period of narco/ethnic/opportunistic/extra-judicial killings between 1997 to 2006. The PNC started this dangerous rhetoric around the mid-1990s and now the PPP is using the term ethnic cleansing recklessly.

The real danger is the President and Prime Minister do not seem to understand that at mid-levels these struggles for opportunities and resources will occur. Moses has a duty to make sure these concerns are addressed. The AFC is clueless. One of the reasons why the President appears clueless has to do with the fact that he surrounds himself with old army men. He does not seem to get that diversity comes in different shapes and form.

TK is quietly pointing out the defects of the Granger administration.  Interesting observation.

The disease in this is the PPP did it routinely and never called their harangue or racist spouting harassment. Indians accepted.  Satteur is an example. What he did was obscene and the PPP allowed it. The Ramotar children were accepted because they supposedly had the credentials. That they supplanted people with similar credentials was nary a worry.  This is a disease.

Granger's talk of inclusion is farcical. He can think himself jesus and wish that others come to break bread but I will declare it here and now, he is wasting his time. The PPP is in election mode and they aim to win the prize of office as an ethnic prize an for that reason they will massage every avenue to highlight the "plight" of indians at the hands of the black man and black culture.

The barrage of distorting commentaries from the Times is not happenstance. It is design. This ides that the budget does not conform to any clearly formalize strategy for development is the PPP campaigning. They never sought to explain their budgeting allocations, account for how it was spent and for any of the excesses to their friends and family. It was not  nepotism; it was practice. It will bother them now.

Our problem is to not let the next election cycle comes around with race being the seed of our political disputes. That alas is me wishing with my penny in the local fountain. Maybe I should just wish and retrieve the penny for a more fruitful possibility

Look, they promised a different approach, now they are doing the same. After elections, they pledged national unity. They just said social cohesion was important. Well, wait until you have the evidence that these personsxwere corrupt before letting them go. The more things change,mother more they stay the same.

i use "ethnic cleansing" because it is the preferred, provocative buzzword of the PPP and theGuyana Times chorus on GNI

i don't think either of us need a history or dictionary definition of the term for purposes of this discussion

my point is narrow, and i don't see the immediate relevance of your 2nd paragraph

Get real. The man won because he relied heavily and against all odds to present himself as fair. Still few indians voted for him and those who did indeed would expect him to be fair but fair does not mean neglecting his good foot soldiers.

He has to move his views on the backs of those who can best carry it forward. It is wishful thinking that he will go our there and immediately balance things out. That is not being unrealistic but hypocritical. It is also hypocritical that he will retain any of the cronies from the former administration.

These are known people and they have made their mark on being anti this administrations. Many of them neglected their obligations to be neutral and had their names on various and sundry lists without first doing the prudent thing and resigning their offices if they were going to be active campaigners.

Yes we need a difference but it has to be a full throated appeal from the heart and not the nonsensical campaigning on racist traction as usual from the PPP. Could you tell me of one change the intend in the constitution so we are not creatures of political office? Have they said "lets set up a serious constitutional reform panel to rid ourselves of this disease of racism"

Granger is wasting his time with his appeal with Jesus virtues. He needs to be formalizing a philosophy backed by proposals for institutional changes rather than begging these PPP punks to be agreeable.

You are an idiot, with a closed mind, who is so blinded by hate for the PPP as the cause of all Guyana's problems. You sound as if the PPP has done some terrible injustice to you and you are gunning for vengeance. Your diatribe will not fool anyone here...go back and review your words...all of them display an attack on the PPP but you praise every action of the coalition.  

I agree that Granger's plans for inclusion is farcical...but at least I am willing to give him a chance to see what he is willing to do in terms of policy to bring the nation together. So far, since this is the major problem facing us in Guyana, and one that threatens to diminish any economic and social gains this regime can salvage, Granger as not, as a leader utter a single word in the form of a major speech addressing this problem. It continues to fester. Iam also hearing through the grapevine that Granger might be ill and that the old guard PNC may be running the show from the shadows. Not sure how much of this is true.   I also have a few stories like TK about family members who were harassed (and I will argue that some of these cases may fall into the category of perception and fear)...but you would think that the govt will address them...but no they continue to let the perception of harassment and "ethnic cleansing".

However, you knuckleheads must understand also that Moses and Ramjattan are fair game for criticisms. They went out to bring in the 11% to give the coalition its victory. 

In addition, as long as this racial problem is not addressed, it will continue to plague us. It will be an issue in the next election. AND, yes, the PPP will milk it....they have a right to do so as long as the problem is not addressed.

You will loose your penny.

I doan think many are suspected of corruption. It is the policy of replacing them with members from their camp. 

I listened to the words of Granger coming out his mouth at a breakfast meeting, on inclusive governance. I considered it to be at the politiacal level.

Once at the political level, then he would be more considerate with the firings. However, the PNC arm controls Granger and Inclusive governance is not a sincere gesture.

Now, Granger want the PPP to fulfill its constitutional obligations. The firings will go on.

I would be an idiot if I dreamed of impossible things. ONe does not get rid of racism by taking selective stance of wishing it away and hope for good men to come out of the wood works. I have been here since time immemorial commenting on the same and there is evidence in the world's literature that without institutional fences to contain the boundaries of ethnic expressions to good ends it will not grow in fruitful ways. That is why we have rules for every conceivable thing on the planet that is necessary and just.

When the PPP came into office I defended jagdeo, expressed hope that he being young would see a difference because he had the recent burnham years as a guide of what not to do.

Instead he did the most brazen thing and ignored all pretenses to democratic government and went on a rampage of one man rule with corruption being his only legacy to us. The PPP are who they presently are because of his complete and total neglect of what is right.

I do not give a damn about whose family member was harassed as evidence of nepotism or corruption. That is not going to change my position that the PPP has and never intend to be fruitful for real change and were masters of manipulating the system to foster nepotism and by that injuring the black people of our land.

Granger's expression of inclusion has to come with hard line positions. Inclusions has to come with a refashioning of the institutions and not via elite accommodations. You are the one being the ass if you think that is not the necessary path for any idea of inclusion.

Maybe I am too idealistic. We need to figure out a way to get out of this cycle we are in and do things differently. Granger might be a decent person but he is tied to the old political imperatives as the previous government. Many in Guyana are trapped by their experiences and past and cannot transcend that. Some of these persons posting here have been out of Guyana a long time. You will expect them to have learnt something better than the racism and crap they spew forth in a regular basis.