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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

How many of you stupid people wished that you were in Jagdeo's shoes?

 

How did Burnham enriched himself and his family?

Rama, Burnham didn't enrich himself and his family. When he died, his will was probated and published. The PPP Mirror newspaper published it front page. Burnham's total wealth amounted to Guy$900,000, ie, less than $1 million.
In 1974 there was a rumour that the US Ebony magazine said Burnham was the world's third or fourth richest black man.

Janet Jagan used to subscribe to Ebony and I asked to borrow her copy with the Burnham article. Mrs Jagan giggled girlishly "hehehe" and told me Ebony didn't publish any such article on Burnham. She knew about the rumour and Dr Cheddi Jagan new too but they kept quiet and allowed the rumour to spread for political reasons. But the Mirror dared not publish such rumour because it would have been inviting a libel suit.

In this Internet age you can get past issues of Ebony magazine online. That magazine had published a feature on Burnham in the 1960s but it was positive.

Burnham practised law for 15 years before he became prime minister. He headed the PNC government for 21 years. After 36 years of working life, Burnham died with less than G$1 million.

If Burnham were a wealthy man like Jagdeo, his children would be floating on money today. His daughters are living average lives, however. Just Google their names.

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Wally:

Ralph has been a member of the Guyana elite class for many many years. Did he ever had to work and pay for tuition like some of us when we studied at Western institutions?

Wally, Ralph Ramkarran has been a practising attorney-at-law for over 40 years. With his earnings he built a house in his father Boysie Ramkarran's yard.

The professional class of lawyers and doctors in Guyana are relatively elite in the sense of their occupational accomplishments.

Ralph Ramkarran didn't have to pay for his legal studies in England because Boysie paid it from honestly earned and taxable income. Ralph in turn paid for his two sons' legal studies.

Whatever Ralph Ramkarran possesses today, he earned the honest way. And he has every right to comment on the get-rich-quick PPP cabal. 

While in England as a law student in the late 1960s, Ralph Ramkarran helped to organize picketing exercises against Burnham and the Guyana High Commission. In an interview published in the UK “Times” newspaper, he helped the PPP to expose the PNC rigging of the overseas vote in the 1968 general elections. It was Ralph Ramkarran who led delegations to the High Commissioner, trudged the streets of London mobilizing Guyanese, and organized and sold tickets for numerous fund raising activities. He helped to build the UK Branch of the PPP, and conducted seminars and other educational programmes. All those things he did during his university student years.

When Ralph Ramkarran returned to Guyana after completing his studies successfully, he was immediately appointed as a PPP representative in the Elections Commission. He campaigned for the Party in the 1973 elections. I saw him at Queen's College on that elections night while some votes were being counted and witnessed him answering questions during a live radio interview. Later, he was engaged in legal defence year after year on behalf of dozens of PPP activists and supporters. He played a big part in reworking the PPP constitution. He also got himself involved in writing articles, lecturing and doing seminars, etc. for the Party. Indeed, he served the PPP in various capacities with distinction for decades.
Ralph never used the PPP to get rich like Jagdeo and compeers.

That may be so Comrade Gilbakka AKA Bookman.  Did he ever experience the hardship of working and paying for tuition in the cold of winter ?.  If not then he may not have experienced what many common Guyanese men and women have experienced ?.  Was Ralph ever detained or spent any time in Jail for his protest against the Burnham administration like what happened to several members of the PPP party?

Wally, with due respect, we're discussing Ralph Ramkarran's take on Bharrat Jagdeo's opinion that Cheddi Jagan built his house in an upscale area.

How does detention or jail come in the picture? Are you saying that because some PPP guys like Rohee and others were arrested and detained, they deserve their lavish lifestyles today?

 

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Sase Singh, yuh full of pure shyte (too early in the morning), but the statement needs to be qualified.

 

Yuh think Jagdeo just waiting for you all to come and alter his life style. From what you all sey about the man, do you all really believe he doan have a plan for all yuh. Correction for Granger, Nagamoottoo, Ramjattan and company.

 

I think Granger knows what is going to go down. He went to have a talk wid Selall Persaud already. 

 

There could be more Crum-Ewing-kulie, black, putagee, buck, dougla, buffiandahs and mixed up races.

 

The PPP has alot of criminals just like the PNC. 

as a guyanese you sound so proud 

No.

Just trying to give the man a reality check. Words alone not going to move Jagdeo. People of that sort doan leave peaceably.

S

Them cuss things are emphasis words -said with love. Like when blacks use the N word.

 

We the people going to inherit the big house. Its going to be a tourist attraction. It would be seen as a small house in a few years. Like JJ's house is to us today. That's the bigger vision. You guys are(myopic) short sighted.

FM
Originally Posted by Honest:

Hollywood said greed is good ( I disagree). But bad as greed is jealously is 10 time worst.

You are confused. Gordon Gekko said greed is good and not Hollywood. His philosophy is a representation of a class of characters rationalizing evil In Christian theology he is lost and not reconcilable with normal human conduct  except after long rehabilitation.

 

 

You did the same with Jealousy. I also believed you conflated  Jealousy with envy. Jealousy is a venial sin it is not Envy  which is a mortal sin ie the breaking of a commandant( the 10th) even if one sometimes confused the two.

 

The former is a sentiment involving emotions involving not having or losing affections. Envy a mortal sin, one involving a broken link with god that is very serious and demands purposeful contrition to be re established. 

 

And all of this nonsensical rationalization is to presume one is jealous of Jagdeo so one is in some way morally compromised. You are a nut!

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

How many of you stupidpeople wished that you were in Jagdeo's shoes?

 

How did Burnham enriched himself and his family?

I think you are arguing from ignorance having not known us  or ever been inculcated in a life of normal moral mainstream understandings.

 

The accepting of institutionalized thievery, wife abuse, lying and a life of complete vindictiveness as normal is a disease.

 

His shoes are diseased. No one with a health conscious mind cares to be close to them much less in them.

You haven't answered the question.

Asked and answered unless you are truly as daft as you come across quite often

FM

Let us put Jagdeo behind us and concentrate on the future.  If the Aliiance cannot say what they will do, if they have the reigns of Government, then they will not defeat the PPP, no matter bad they were.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Let us put Jagdeo behind us and concentrate on the future.  If the Aliiance cannot say what they will do, if they have the reigns of Government, then they will not defeat the PPP, no matter bad they were.

I do not know what you presume they should say that they have not said. It is easier for you to tell us your vision of what you think is absent in their platform since the did say a lot.

FM

They should tell us how they will build the country, because so far they have

done everything in their power to destroy progress and prosperity.

 

They are spending their time generalizing about the future.

 which means they don't know what they will do.  They are handing the government to the PPP on a silver platter.    Where will they get money from to pay teachers, civil servants, police Force and the Army.  There will br no money left to build roads, houses, take care of floods and fight crime.

 

R

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