My parents did not use their position for personal gains

Dear Editor,
I am extremely disappointed that Bharrat Jagdeo would try to compare his lifestyle to that of my parents, former Presidents Dr. Cheddi Jagan and Mrs. Janet Jagan, and defend his opulent lifestyle by pathetically claiming that my parents also lived in a large house in an affluent community. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I would like to thank Ralph Ramkarran for writing about the matter in his recent article “Discordant Notes”. What Ralph wrotea bout my parent’s lifestyle and their house is all true and to the point. He wrote “In the 1960s, Plantation Bel Air, as it was then known, where Cheddi Jagan’s house is located and where my parents were born, was a poor community of mainly small artisans, farm and city labourers and subsistence cattle and vegetable farmers. Cheddi Jagan’s land, next door to where I was born, grew up and still live, was acquired for $2,000 in the early 1960s. Around that time Belvoir Court was empty land in the 1960s when Cheddi Jagan got his land… In any event, the house that he constructed consisted of only an upper flat of three bedrooms, a tiny study, a small living room and kitchen, modest by the standards of that time or any standards. It is there for anyone to see. The impression given by Dr. Jagdeo that Cheddi Jagan built a mansion, at the time comparable to his own, in an existing exclusive area is completely false and disingenuous.”
This simple, modest but comfortable house was designed by my father and built in 1966. You can visit and see for yourself. At that time there were only a few houses in this area. All the homes that were built much later in this area were much larger and more elaborate, so that the current area is now considered an affluent neighborhood.
My parents, as is well known, devoted and sacrificed their lives for the betterment of the people of Guyana. They did not use their position for personal gains, which would have been very easy to do. Instead, due primarily to their high moral and ethical standards, they chose to live a very simple and comfortable lifestyle. They did not lead an extravagant life. Even when they were both Presidents of Guyana they maintained the same simple lifestyle they had always lived before.
It is sad that no one, especially in the PPP leadership has come forward to challenge these false and misleading claims that Bharrat Jagdeo has made against my parents, except for an old and dear comrade and friend of my parents’– Ralph Ramkarran.
Nadira Jagan-Brancier

Dem boys seh…Ramkarran seh Jagdeo nah got shame

Since Jagdeo li’l he was smart, scampish and always vindictive. People who wuk over him and under him, know that, but some of dem get frighten to talk when he became president. Now that he gone some people talking because he ain’t got control over dem mouth. Dem boys always use to talk because dem never did and would never frighten that idiot. He does always try fuh justify everything he seh and he do. Every scampish deal, every rattish agreement he sign and whatever he seh he does try fuh justify. He build a house in Pradoville One on state land wha he get fuh next to nutten. Then he seh he sell to some Rass fuh nuff money. He go and build a mansion in Pradoville Two again pun state land. Dem boys believe that is de biggest, fanciest and most expensive house in de country. When dem question him, he seh that he wuk fuh 20 years and he was president fuh 12. Well Ramkarran seh that Cheddi wuk fuh more than 50 years. He was premier, and he was president. His wife also wuk for 50 years, and was president too. Yet de two of dem couldn’t build wha Jagdeo build. De simple house wha de two of dem build still stands de same way so that everybody can compare to Jagdeo mansion. Dem never drive wha Jagdeo drive, never eat some of de things wha Jagdeo eat. Dem boys know that Cheddi had a heart problem but he never hire private jet. He use to wait fuh a state visit come up and then use de opportunity to see his doctor. Ramkarran seh that it is a sin fuh Jagdeo to use Cheddi as an example fuh justify he mansion, his pension and his Cadillac lifestyle. But dem boys seh that sin is fuh people wid a heart. Jagdeo ain’t got a heart or nutten closer to that.  And in any case animals don’t commit sin. His monthly pension can pay all de teachers in 10 school, yet he never give he wife nutten. And he comparing heself to Cheddi and Janet. What a shame and disgrace. De police does shame you by putting you photograph in de paper when you drink and drive. Sunday Chronicle had six photo of Jagdeo and Ramotar only had five. Talk half and watch how he gun run and hide.

Disappointed that Jagdeo would try to compare his lifestyle to that of my parents

March 16, 2015

Dear Editor,

I am extremely disappointed that Bharrat Jagdeo would try to compare his lifestyle to that of my parents, former Presidents Dr. Cheddi Jagan and Mrs. Janet Jagan, and defend his opulent lifestyle by pathetically claiming that my parents also lived in a large house in an affluent community. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I would like to thank Ralph Ramkarran for writing about the matter in his recent article “Discordant Notes”. What Ralph wrote about my parents’ lifestyle and their house is all true and to the point. He wrote “In the 1960s, Plantation Bel Air, as it was then known, where Cheddi Jagan’s house is located and where my parents were born, was a poor community of mainly small artisans, farm and city labourers and subsistence cattle and vegetable farmers. Cheddi Jagan’s land, next door to where I was born, grew up and still live, was acquired for $2,000 in the early 1960s. Around that time Belvoir Court was empty land in the 1960s when Cheddi Jagan got his land… In any event, the house that he constructed consisted of only an upper flat of three bedrooms, a tiny study, a small living room and kitchen, modest by the standards of that time or any standards. It is there for anyone to see.

The impression given by Dr. Jagdeo that Cheddi Jagan built a mansion, at the time comparable to his own, in an existing exclusive area is completely false and disingenuous.” This simple, modest but comfortable house was designed by my father and built in 1966. You can visit and see for yourself. At that time there were only a few houses in this area. All the homes that were built much later in this area were much larger and more elaborate, so that the current area is now considered an affluent neighbourhood.

My parents, as is well known, devoted and sacrificed their lives for the betterment of the people of Guyana. They did not use their position for personal gains, which would have been very easy to do.

Instead, due primarily to their high moral and ethical standards, they chose to live a very simple and comfortable lifestyle. They did not lead an extravagant life. Even when they were both Presidents of Guyana they maintained the same simple lifestyle they had always lived before.

It is sad that no one, especially in the PPP leadership has come forward to challenge these false and misleading claims that Bharrat Jagdeo has made against my parents, except for an old and dear comrade and friend of my parents’– Ralph Ramkarran.

Yours faithfully,

Nadira Jagan-Brancier

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I have always wanted to live well. I got my inspiration from watching American films and walking and looking at the yards and houses at Blairmont Estate Senior Staff Compound. It wasn't covet or greed or envy of the whites. I aspire to a comfortable life style as young as I was. And living at Fatman Logie in Rosignol.

CBJ always wanted to tear down the white people standard of living. The man was the destroyer of dreams.

Ram Karran can sey what he wants, CBJ stopped pulling teeth soon after he returned to BG. Yet, he provided well for his siblings. Nothing wrong with all of that. But when people claiming he lived a frugal life style, that is a whole lot of crap. Even in the opposition benches he traveled the the world.

I have no problem with Jagdeo Mansion. The man has a class life style. I admire him in that respect. However. I wished he had used some of that desire to live well and encourage and promote classic infra-structure programs and proper housing developments for the less fortunate.

Men like Moses Nagamootoo and Ram Karran kept feeding Jagan this crap of how good and simple he is/was. Had CBJ been 10% like Jagdeo, the electorate would have been freer in mind and spirit. That should be the tesatment-not the house he lived in.

President Bharrat Jagdeo with all his Doctorates IS CORRECT, "Cheddie Jagan din live in a logie."

Ram Karran can sey wah de azz he wants-these fools just sat down and let Jagdeo steam roller dem. Jagdeo din destroy Guyana. Is the spineless leadership of the Jagans, Moses and Ram Karran allowed it to happe.

Leave the man be in his big house.

Big houses generate jobs. May be he lets the economist part of his brain jump in over drive. Don't be hating Ralphey boy. 

The time has passed for the Opposition to criticize the former president for his inconsistencies. His lifestyle now is nobody's business.

The coolie crabs in the PNC will get what they deserve from the very daags they now serve.

I totally AGREE with Ramkarran.  Jagdeo is losing his marbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jagdeo is a forgone conclusion.

Siggy, you are entitled to your longstanding dislike of the Jagans but not to spread untruths or distortions of their lives.

I have highlighted two of your statements above.

It is not true that Cheddi Jagan "stopped pulling teeth soon after he returned to BG." He had his dental surgery in Main Street a door or two north of Hotel Tower. After he was removed from government in 1964 he practised his dentistry part-time in Charlotte Street, sharing a surgery with his brother Sirpaul. I visited him there a few times.

It is true, as you say, "Even in the opposition benches he traveled the the world." Let it be known that more than 80 percent of those trips were financed by the people who invited him, such as the Soviet and Cuban and East European governments and organizations like the World Peace Council and the World Federation of Trade Unions. As a rule, invitations were accompanied by plane tickets and guaranteed accommodation.

Dr. J was a great man. My chicken coup is bigger than his house. I saw Jagdeo's will, he is leaving everything to charity. I am disappointed. Ralphey by is pissed that he was not hired to make the will and have a peak into ...

I agree again to an extent.  Why is he on the Campaign Trail??/

DR JAGAN IS THE BEST AND GREATEST GUYANESE EVER LIVED!!!!!!!

He is gives the PPP the black vote.

Poor Ralphey's comments has bigger implementations for the up comming elections (J & J life long commitments) something he is blind to and his sour grape responses are questionable.

It is claimed that CBJ did dental work for people who couldn't pay him.

Jagdeo also claims that Foreigners pays him handsomely-he claims his 22 years in public office has made him alot of friends. 

Suh, y the complainers complaining. The man ain't do anything different from CBJ. 

Cheddie permitted stealing as reward for his comrades services. Jagdeo do the same thing. Before Jagdeo attained his status in the PPP, old PPP faithfuls built big houses claiming people send barrels for them. A lot CIVIC members got wealthy right under Cheddie. Maybe Jagdeo sey, if dey can do it, he can too.

Boysie Ram Karran had opportunities which gave his children privilege.

The Jagans gat privilege too. Only stupid people would not seize the opportunity when it avails itself.

honest is your name interesting  

Aw laad, gyam wan brain cell nah!

the ppp dogs do not need a brain cell they need a priest 

You have a point Sig.  Comrade Boysie was a friend to both Burnham and Jagan. In a sense, Ralph was like maybe a Prince in the Guyana sense as far as these two men were concerned. He could do no wrong.

 So you can gotay Burnham misdeeds[who croak more than 30 years ago] here daily but want the opposition to give the Jagabaat who is still a parasite to tax payers free pass...you got to be drunk...

This is what Jagdeo calls Cheddi's mansion.

I have visited that house.  It's almost an embarrassment how simple the Jagans were.

They did not see govt as the gateway to personal aggrandizement, the way the PPP Jagdeoites view govt.

Guyana moved from Dictatorship (pre-1992) to Democracy (1992) to Kleptocracy (1999).

PPP mum on reaction by Cheddie's daughter on parents' lifestyle

• Monday, 16 March 2015 13:16
• Written by  Denis Scott Chabrol
• 5 Comments

Former Presidents Cheddie and Janet Jagan lived here.

When the children of the Party founders are not with you, that's a shame!

"They have made my father's party in to a den of thieves." These reverse robin hoods.

Nadira can shut she pie hole. No one awarded the Jagan brood any special divine authority to forever lord it over Indians and Guyana. Nadira speaks for Nadira.

Jagdeo was lying trough his teeth so much that he accused Cheddi of living in Bel Air Park which was a posh area in those days. Cheddi did not live in Bel Air Park.

Suh Nadira want Jagdeo to live hand to mouth like CBJ(according to those who claimed the Jagans had a frugal life-style)

CBJ did not dream big enough. His dream was destruction-chase the white man and their investments out of BG. Soon perhaps, the sugar workers will feel the brunt of CBJ aspirations.

They too will have to live hand to mouth.

Jagdeo is a modern man, living in a modern world.

HE IS HIS OWN MAN. Cult worship is not his baggage. If Indoes stupid enough to follow him when he call the name of Jagan, then dem stupid.

I think Indian people gone past the Jagans a long time ago. And so, also is the old guard of the PPP party. Dem nah offended wah JAGDEO SAID.

Cheddi Jagan’s daughter to Jagdeo:…‘Don’t compare your opulent lifestyle to that of my parents’

- slams PPP for staying silent

Days after former President Bharrat Jagdeo attempted to explain his Pradoville 2 mansion by drawing

Nadira Jagan-Brancier

comparison to the upscale New Haven, Bel Air neighbourhood of Dr. Cheddi Jagan, a daughter has slammed the ruling party for staying silent. Yesterday, in a scathing letter in Kaieteur News, Nadira Jagan-Brancier described Jagdeo’s lifestyle as “opulent”. The letter would continue to signal a growing divide between the current leaders of the People’s Progressive Party and the relatives of Dr. Jagan who helped found the party. Jagan-Brancier did not even refer to Jagdeo as the former President. “I am extremely disappointed that Bharrat Jagdeo would try to compare his lifestyle to that of my parents, former Presidents Dr. Cheddi Jagan and Mrs. Janet Jagan, and defend his opulent lifestyle by pathetically claiming that my parents also lived in a large house in an affluent community. Nothing could be further from the truth.” During a press conference last week at PPP’s headquarters at Freedom House, Robb Street, Jagdeo was asked about his sprawling mansion in the Sparendaam, East Coast Demerara area that he created. Several house lots went to mainly top Government officials and friends of Jagdeo. Jagdeo said that Government Ministers do not have to live in logies (slave quarters) to prove that they are honest. He said that Dr. Jagan lived in the upscale Bel Air area but there were no questions about whether he was corrupt.

Bharrat Jagdeo

He said that Jagan’s abode was not typical of all Guyanese, but insisted that the area was a prime one. In her letter, Jagan-Brancier drew reference to former PPP’s executive, Ralph Ramkarran, who in a recent piece defended the Jagans and their lifestyle. “I would like to thank Ralph Ramkarran for writing about the matter in his recent article “Discordant Notes”. What Ralph wrote about my parents’ lifestyle and their house is all true and to the point.” Ramkarran wrote that in the 1960s, Plantation Bel Air, as it was then known, was a poor community of mainly small artisans, farm and city labourers and subsistence cattle and vegetable farmers. Ramkarran said that Jagan’s land, next door to where he was born, grew up and still live, was acquired for $2,000 in the early 1960s. “This simple, modest but comfortable house was designed by my father and built in 1966. You can visit and see for yourself. At that time there were only a few houses in this area. All the homes that were built much later in this area were much larger and more elaborate, so that the current area is now considered an affluent neighborhood,” Jagan’s daughter said in the letter. “My parents, as is well known, devoted and sacrificed their lives for the betterment of the people of Guyana. They did not use their position for personal gains, which would have been

very easy to do. Instead, due primarily to their high moral and ethical standards,

The Pradoville 2 mansion of Bharrat Jagdeo.

they chose to live a very simple and comfortable lifestyle. “They did not lead an extravagant life. Even when they were both Presidents of Guyana they maintained the same simple lifestyle they had always lived before.” She said that it was sad that no one, especially in the PPP leadership, has come forward to challenge the “false and misleading claims” that “Bharrat Jagdeo” has made against her parents, except for an “old and dear comrade and friend of my parents”– Ramkarran. It was not the first time that Jagan’s daughter or his family has come out criticizing the PPP for straying away from the ideology of its founder. In a forum back in April 2012, Jagan-Brancier said that her parents were probably the most incorruptible people; their honesty and integrity were of very high standards, but unfortunately do not exist in many of the leaders of the party and government. She said that the current leaders of the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) and

The Bel Air home of the Jagans

Government lack “the very, very, very high moral standards” which her parents embodied when they were alive. Jagan-Brancier had scolded the party for putting out platforms using her parents’ name— particularly her father’s— and not living up really and truly to what her parents had stood for. “It is not enough to go out there and make lovely speeches about who my parents were, what they did and the legacy that we’re carrying on”. The daughter of the late leaders had pleaded with the PPP/C leaders and members to get back to the high and moral values. “If the leaders don’t show the moral values then people won’t do it, and your children won’t grow up with moral values. And if your families don’t show moral values, then society as a whole will lose that”. It was only recently that Jagan-Brancier’s brother, Joey, reportedly said that while he mounted the PPP platform for the 2011 General and Regional Elections; he will not be doing so this time around. Yesterday, General Secretary of the PPP, Clement Rohee, opted to remain silent on the statement by Jagan-Brancier, noting that his words have “heavy political weight”. He also declined to comment on the possible impact of the statement of Jagan’s daughter, only saying that time will tell. The statements by Jagan-Brancier would come as Guyana heads to early General Elections on May 11 after the ruling party faced a no-confidence vote late last year by the National Assembly, forcing President Donald Ramotar to prorogue Parliament.

Burnham was Guyana modern man, he was one of the Caribbean finest states man - he did not need to own a mansion to be recognize as such.

The Jagabaat Converting states assets to personal property is called stealing. The Jagabaat is no 'modern man' he is more like the Caribbean darpoke - cheat on his woman, lock his wife out the bedroom and use your position to void the marriage, denied her spousal support and eventually toss her out penniless. Which modern man is respected to treat a woman and a first lady that way?

Then, Reepu Daman Persaud should answer for his schemes in making Jagdeo into a wicked person. The good pandit did not see any bad deeds in Jagdeo. The pandit even tried to get Jagdeo elected to a third term. 

That would have been good for Guyana.  Concerning his marriage according to Hinduism, bamboo WEDDING is legal in the eyes of Allah and Bhagwan..

Okay, Siggy, let's set aside Jagan for a moment.

Big bad Burnham didn't build a mansion when he was president or prime minister before that. He ruled for nearly 21 years.

Desmond Hoyte didn't build a mansion when he was president. He ruled for 7 years and lived in his own house on North Road that he bought with his income and bank loan.

In the context of Guyana, a small poor country with less than one million people, Jagdeo's swift acquisition of two mansions must raise eyebrows and questions of concern.

It doesn't mean that he has to live in a logie.

Believe me, the extravagant lifestyles of the PPP elite will certainly be an election issue.

The lifestyle of Dr.  Bharat Jagdeo will not be an issue among Indians.  That is old news.

The People wants to know  will happen after election.  The Alliance are not saying what they will do, if they win. 

I an not impressed with:

Foe better roads vote pnc.

For more water and electricity vote PNC.

Foe less violence vote for the Alliance. 

Have you fellas visited Guyana lately, forget, the president's and ministers properties, there are massive properties every where owned by the average Joe. I have seen a large house in Tuschen owned by a factory worker at Uitvlugt sugar estate.Travel from Crabwood Creek to Charity and you would see hundreds of houses that are bigger than the million dollar houses in Toronto Canada. What it tell you every one is doing well, Guyanese are returning home to retire, because they can now live in a much better life style than they presently have abroad. Have you seen Georgetown lately???

So you trying to tell us now that factory workers are so rich now that they can afford mansions? Y'all really believe people born yesterday.

Do you live in Guyana kp?

All these clowns chant on GNI that PPP Guyana is so great, yet they won't dare to go and live there.

They prefer to sponge off the great benefits of the same West they were ridiculing for all their PPP Commie lives. 

Many of the PPP higher ups became too rich, too quickly.  They flaunt their conspicuous consumption.  One of Irfaan's clerk, an ordinary village man, now has several house and cars and lots of money and fancy lifestyle.  He lives next to some relatives of mine. He must be the bag man.

You cannot see govt as a source of getting rich through corrupt transactions.

The PPP Kleptos operate in the interests of its new parasitic, bourgeois friends and contractor class.  It is not an Indian govt, and does not govern on behalf of Indians, as it wants to portray, when it accuses the AFC of selling out Indians.

and you choose to stay in north america and pay mortgages all your life 

Don't kid yourself, everyone is not doing well.

Business people, shop people and contractors are doing well. The masses of people in retail, stores, security guards, teachers, nurses, govt workers are barely scraping through.

Every race punishing!

The despicable things going on Guyana stems from the lack of authority. The crooks are every where. The lack of fearing God makes it a free for all by the bullies. They are like mafioli. It is not only in Guyana. Recently, I believe it is Saunders who wrote an article about the lawlessness of Indo-Guyanese living in the States. I am tempted to say Guyana does not have the laws to curb corruption, but America has the laws and eventually brings judgement to lawbreakers. Yet, Indo-Guyanse excel in their crimes. Is like Kulie people are generally crooks. It is an inherent trait going back to India. It is in the genes to subject fellow people into servitude. Jagdeo life style certainly brings that into focus. His benefit package will make Guyanese work forever for him until he is dead. Shame. That, I doan think he has (shame)-likewise all the others who have cheated the citizens of Guyana.

Commentators have said, during the PNC years, Indo-Guyana were psychologically damaged. They became thieves just to survive-maybe only the ones with crime in their genes. The influential ones, made deals-you give me this and I will give that. Then, their were the bullies who simply took. And Jagdeo just took whatever he needed. Moses Nagamootoo agreed to it, Ralph Ramkarran agreed to it, Janet Jagan agreed to it, CBJ anointed him. The Opposition under Corbin sold the rights to Jagdeo. Suh, President Jagdeo had it free for all. The only man who stood up was C.N. Sharma. And no one backed him.

They say, the public has a short memory.

Jagdeo is still a young man, just think how many more years he could be around in the PPP. He could pull off a Putin, and no one will oppose him in the party.

But Nadira could banish him. She needs to do it. To correct her parents mistake. If she truly believes her parents party was a working class party( I believe the party was more for Stalin's interest), then she needs to start a movement to banish Bharrat Jagdeo from the Peoples Progressive Party.

Any, after this election, Jagdeo going to have a long distance relationship with the PPP. He be living in Florida permanently. Because the wicked gat no peace-Khemraj Ramjattan goan see to that. Jail waiting for some of them or they getting away from Guyana like dem Putucs.