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Big protests in India when this film came out.
Mira:
Could you give us a synopsis ? Tell us why you think it's worth the effort to effort to spend nearly 2 hours viewing. Thanks.
Rev
Deepa Mehta is a socially conscious filmmaker.
Unlike Bollywood types, her films examine serious Indian societal issues. Of course, one cannot expect the orthodox and narrow-minded folks to like her films.
REv, I saw this film, it is really good. I believe Metha also made a movie call WATER, it is also excellent. They both tackle serious social issues.
Fire is about Lesbians.
Wow....that's the whole movie you posted there Mira.
thank you!
Haven't seen this one, but i will have to make some time and watch it.
Saw Water....and it was very eye-opening to say the least.
I CAN SEE WHY THE MOVIE FIRE OFFENDED AND PIS$ED OFF LOTS ON INDIAN MEN---it addresses a lot of truths.
* Lots of Indian wives are trapped in loveless, sexless marriages----the lesbianism was the affair between 2 oppressed wives living under the same roof.
* The movie also addresses the dysfunctional Indian family---it's not healthy for a bunch of in-laws to live together.
* There is also a pressure on women to reproduce.
* Some hindus have a reverence for celibacy---in the movie Radha is in a sexless marriage---and her husband spends money on some guru preaching the "heavenliness" of celibacy.
WHO WANTS TO DISCUSS THE MOVIE ?
* By the way, remember when Sita and her husband were at the Taj Mahal---they were married for only 3 days----she told him she likes ROMANCE movies---he replied he likes kung fu and Jackie chan---and we find out later he has a Chinese mistress.
* WOMEN CRAVE INTIMACY; LOTS OF MEN JUST WANT A HOLE THAT PROVIDES FRICTION AND LUBRICATION.
* Look at the movie and let's have a discussion.
Rev
I saw Fire and Water years ago. I remember them being very deep.
Deepa Mehta is one of India's top film maker. Not your typical bollywood fluff and songs.
I saw Fire and Water years ago. I remember them being very deep.
Deepa Mehta is one of India's top film maker. Not your typical bollywood fluff and songs.
Actually....Deepa Mehta is Canadian!
She went back to India to make these movies and met with very strong oppoisiton.....but she persevered and made excellent movies.
So is Lisa Ray, the star of Water
saw those movies
i used to be a big fan of Shabana Azmi (i think she was in FIRE)
* She played the role of Radha---the big sister-in-law.
Rev
So is Lisa Ray, the star of Water
It's too darn bad that John Abraham is not Canadian also....
I would get a divorce, take my portion of the settlement and go look for him and ask him to marry me!!!
Okayyyy......calm down everybady....it's just a joke!
but....fuh sure...he is one gorgeous man!
It's too darn bad that John Abraham is not Canadian also....
I would get a divorce, take my portion of the settlement and go look for him and ask him to marry me!!!
ha ha ha ha ha
VBelle:
* You are a funny woman.
* There is an old saying, "Many true words pass in jokes or jest."
* So you like your boy toys young, healthy and handsome, huh ?
Rev
@ Rev.
"many true words".....but not ALL words!
I am neither blind nor dead (as yet)......so I look/admire but no touchy touchy
I am a one-man woman
That's fine with me, VG. I'll take him.
John is a dish
we will share Riya....
I will look and admire....
you can do...... whatever you want with him
we will share Riya....
I will look and admire the young fella....
you can do...... whatever you want with him
that sounds a bit....kinky, but okay
lol
Ksaz....with you, I am thinking it's the same woman every time though!!
that sounds a bit....kinky, but okay
lol
I thought about that....after I posted the comment
A dish best served cold
Like a different one a different night. Unless you have a king size bed.
A dish best served cold
* Yuh into sushi bally ?
Rev
That's fine with me, VG. I'll take him.
John is a dish
so I guess that leave SRK for me just kidding Riya.
and you don't thing you are for this?
in any case....it's not a bad thing to be predictable for!
How did such a short and ugly guy become such a huge star in Bollywood ?
Rev
* He must have been blessed with some great scripts and maybe he was/is a great actor.
* But in the looks department that bloke is more suited to work at that Patel grocery riya and Miraver shop at.
* Now I can understand the ladies drooling over John Abraham---the young man has the chiseled features and the symmetry---he is, indeed, handsome.
* But handsome Abraham hasn't achieved 10% of the success ugly duckling SRK has achieved.
Rev
* There is no question SRK has been immensely successful in Bollywood.
* I was just curious how such an ugly duckling climbed such great heights.
* Maybe he was magical delivering his lines and doing what male Indian actors do---dance, cry, sing, run around trees,etc, etc---maybe he is just a great actor. That's it.
Rev
That chap look like Doon
How did such a short and ugly guy become such a huge star in Bollywood ?
Rev
You take that back right now mister!!
SRK is a dream boat. Me and millions of other women, including our own anjali cannot, absolutely cannot, be wrong
That's fine with me, VG. I'll take him.
John is a dish
so I guess that leave SRK for me just kidding Riya.
I will be good like VG and share
Hey you
How did such a short and ugly guy become such a huge star in Bollywood ?
Rev
You take that back right now mister!!
SRK is a dream boat. Me and millions of other women, including our own anjali cannot, absolutely cannot, be wrong
Thanks Riya he has talent and charisma but this is the first time I have heard him called an ugly duckling.
sorry Miraver for derailing your thread.
That's fine with me, VG. I'll take him.
John is a dish
so I guess that leave SRK for me just kidding Riya.
I will be good like VG and share
Hey you
Hey Riya, had a little time so i decided to read/post...the sharing sounds good
How did such a short and ugly guy become such a huge star in Bollywood ?
riya: You take that back right now mister!!
SRK is a dream boat. Me and millions of other women, including our own anjali cannot, absolutely cannot, be wrong
* Lordy! Lordy! It looks like the Rev has landed in hot waters with the ladies on GNI for calling SRK short and ugly.
* Arrite! Arrite! Lemme make some amends---I read Anjali's comments about SRK being a man of charisma and talent---I guess women are attracted to and and put a big value on men like Sharukh Khan who make them smile, make them laugh, and make the feel good about themselves---Guess once a man projects enthusiasm and sex appeal---he's got it made with the smarter sex.
* Thank god for the way women think--even a frog can magically become a prince if he has talent, intelligence, charisma, and a sense of humor.hahaha
Rev
PAGING MIRAVER:
* I see you took a break from your thread and we are now chatting about the charismatic SRK being short and ordinary looking---I will no longer call him ugly.
* Anyway, Thanks for posting the link to FIRE---it was a good movie---lots of controversial subjects----oppressed Indian wives, dysfunctional Indian families(multiple in-laws living under the same roof), the reverence for celibacy by some hindus, women being short-changed when it comes to intimacy, etc, etc,
Rev
saw those movies
i used to be a big fan of Shabana Azmi (i think she was in FIRE)
Another thing we have in common.
I love her as well and just like you looking good also.
* Lordy! Lordy! It looks like the Rev has landed in hot waters with the ladies on GNI for calling SRK short and ugly.
* Arrite! Arrite! Lemme make some amends---I read Anjali's comments about SRK being a man of charisma and talent---I guess women are attracted to and and put a big value on men like Sharukh Khan who make them smile, make them laugh, and make the feel good about themselves---Guess once a man projects enthusiasm and sex appeal---he's got it made with the smarter sex.
* Thank god for the way women think--even a frog can magically become a prince if he has talent, intelligence, charisma, and a sense of humor.hahaha
Rev
I'm glad you come to your senses
It's not always about looks. I agreed he is not your classic handsome man, SRK is considered as ruggedly handsome in my books. He's charismatic, dynamic and have just the right appeal to make him a dashing man
Another example - I wouldn't consider Daniel Craig as a handsome man but he is super attractive and makes me swoon
I'm glad you come to your senses
ha ha ha ha ha
riya:
* I told you I have a good teacher at home---yuh know how much time that woman slap some sense into my hard head---but I catch sense quick---I always learn.haha
* You mentioned some other stuff---I'll comment later---tad busy.
Rev
It's not always about looks. I agreed he is not your classic handsome man, SRK is considered as ruggedly handsome in my books. He's charismatic, dynamic and have just the right appeal to make him a dashing man
Another example - I wouldn't consider Daniel Craig as a handsome man but he is super attractive and makes me swoon
Nurse Riya:
* You mentioned "your books", where can I buy copies I'd love to read them---you strike the Rev as a very knowledgeable and interesting woman.
* Anyway, Thanks for sharing with the forum the kinds of men who get your juices/hormones/dopamine flowing.
* By the way riya, did you know studies have shown that "there is a shift in male preference by women during their menstrual cycle---and most women are attracted to men with masculine bodies during ovulation but do not desire them as long term partners---I guess when the ovulation ceases that's when "super attractive" men like the man who makes you "swoon",Daniel Craig, stimulate the female hormones---but during ovulation---the masculine breed gets the "juices" flowing.
* Good lord women are complex.
* Anyway, Is there any truth in that study nurse riya ?
Rev
My books are Mills and Boon and Harlequin Romance
I can prove that study wrong. I'm attracted to Daniel Craig, Jason Statham and SRK 365 days!
My books are Mills and Boon and Harlequin Romance
riya's fantasy Jason Statham
I can prove that study wrong. I'm attracted to Daniel Craig, Jason Statham and SRK 365 days!
* Well riya, you were surely right when you said you liked your men "ruggedly handsome."hahaha
* Those romance Mills and Boon fiction served you well.
Rev
Amral and Raymond, please ban Rev for sullying GNI!
My books are Mills and Boon and Harlequin Romance
riya's fantasy Jason Statham
I can prove that study wrong. I'm attracted to Daniel Craig, Jason Statham and SRK 365 days!
* Well riya, you were surely right when you said you liked your men "ruggedly handsome."hahaha
* Those romance Mills and Boon fiction served you well.
Rev
Hai Ram! I just fainted
darn, darn, darn! God took his sweet time and made this man. Sigh.
Amral and Raymond, please ban Rev for sullying GNI!
What are you, 6?
Just enjoy the eye candy
Hai Ram! I just fainted
darn, darn, darn! God took his sweet time and made this man. Sigh.
ha ha ha ha
* Not only are you a woman of exquisite and immaculate taste when it comes to your men, but you are also funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Rev
Kzaaz, don't confuse talent with stardom. SRK is one-dimensional - he rarely acts with range like he did in Chak de India.
Meryl Streep has talent and none can touch her; Demi Moore has stardom. Madonna has stardom but Cindy Lauper was a better singer.
Hollywood actors who combined both talent and stardom - Marlon Brando and Tom Cruise. The closest thing Bollywood has would be Amitabh Bachan and to some extent Aamir Khan. Shah Rouk? put his name on a movie and it draws a crowd; but as he said once while accepting an award "you want to see power, go see Amitabh in Black"!
HE ACHIEVED LEGENDARY SUCCESS AS AN ACTOR BUT HE IS QUITE MODEST ABOUT HIS ACHIEVEMENTS AND VERY GENEROUS IN HIS PRAISE FOR HIS DIRECTORS AND SCRIPT WRITERS.
HE WANTED TO BE LIKE AMITABH--EXCELLENT TRIBUTE
how can you guys rate these indian stars,indian movies is the worse directed movies in the world today
Kzaaz, don't confuse talent with stardom. SRK is one-dimensional - he rarely acts with range like he did in Chak de India.
Meryl Streep has talent and none can touch her; Demi Moore has stardom. Madonna has stardom but Cindy Lauper was a better singer.
Hollywood actors who combined both talent and stardom - Marlon Brando and Tom Cruise. The closest thing Bollywood has would be Amitabh Bachan and to some extent Aamir Khan. Shah Rouk? put his name on a movie and it draws a crowd; but as he said once while accepting an award "you want to see power, go see Amitabh in Black"!
Bai, we talking Bollywood. If you want to combine them no one in the world come close to Amitabh for acting and no one in the world come close to Rafi and Lata for singing. But since we are talking Bollywood and SRK, to say that he is a star but not talented is incorrect. For that I draw your attention to Mohabbatein during some of his scenes with Amitabh.
Kzaaz, don't confuse talent with stardom. SRK is one-dimensional - he rarely acts with range like he did in Chak de India.
Meryl Streep has talent and none can touch her; Demi Moore has stardom. Madonna has stardom but Cindy Lauper was a better singer.
Hollywood actors who combined both talent and stardom - Marlon Brando and Tom Cruise. The closest thing Bollywood has would be Amitabh Bachan and to some extent Aamir Khan. Shah Rouk? put his name on a movie and it draws a crowd; but as he said once while accepting an award "you want to see power, go see Amitabh in Black"!
Bai, we talking Bollywood. If you want to combine them no one in the world come close to Amitabh for acting and no one in the world come close to Rafi and Lata for singing. But since we are talking Bollywood and SRK, to say that he is a star but not talented is incorrect. For that I draw your attention to Mohabbatein during some of his scenes with Amitabh.
Kzaazzzz, I say he is one-dimensional. He lacks range. His buffoonery as a grown man walking around like a high school boy with back-back and pretend basketball was ludicrous - and he even brought that image to one of his tours to New York.
You have to look at the body of work of Aamir Khan (who only gets involved in movies with good scripts) and Irfaan Khan, and see the deficiencies in Shah Rukh Khan's acting.
Mira:
Could you give us a synopsis ? Tell us why you think it's worth the effort to effort to spend nearly 2 hours viewing. Thanks.
Rev
Rev, I see that you already have your synopsis
Wow....that's the whole movie you posted there Mira.
thank you!
Haven't seen this one, but i will have to make some time and watch it.
Saw Water....and it was very eye-opening to say the least.
VB, hope you get a chance to look at Fire.
I saw Fire and Water years ago. I remember them being very deep.
Deepa Mehta is one of India's top film maker. Not your typical bollywood fluff and songs.
Riya, I also saw the movies years ago on my VCR I borrowed the videos from the public library.
Deepa Mehta is a socially conscious filmmaker.
Unlike Bollywood types, her films examine serious Indian societal issues. Of course, one cannot expect the orthodox and narrow-minded folks to like her films.
I agree!
is FIRE the one about the lesbians?
WATER is about the widows
EARTH?
Cham, I didn't see Earth. I have to look into it.