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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:
...I do not believe the AFC will fall by the way side, I think their negotiations with APNU for the Speaker is just proof that they are a practical Political Party. Here's a bold prediction: If a no cofidence vote is brought against the Gov't in the next 3 years, look for the APNU and AFC to form a coalition party led by Khemraj or Moses. These guys are talking and they have very similar mandates, its only a matter of time before the light bulb goes on.

Take off your blinders! APNU is PNC and PNC did not want to be led by Winston Murray although he was clearly the best man for the job. Roopnarine had to crawl and beg them to give him the deputy spot, and he turned out to be the best on the campaign field. Like PPP, which had Hinds step down from the presidency after he assumed it on Cheddi's death, both of these parties will only allow a particular etnicity at the top.

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

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Originally posted by Pointblank:


I was informed that AFC nominee Raphael Trotman was assured support to be Speaker of the National Assembly after I withdrew my candidature in favour of a compromise and to break the opposition grid-lock. This is a great day for Guyana and for democracy, that the parties receiving the majority of votes, could find common ground. I have been named among the 7 MPs from the AFC and look forward to resume my role as parliamentarian in our 3-party House. I thank all of you for your kind support and encouragement, which have made me strong to make the decision I made today. The team work among AFC leaders saw us through in this delicate and critical stage of our new democracy.


Moses Nagamootoo

Awesome!!! I really respect Mose's Country First attitude! This makes me so proud as a Guyanese to have a strong majority oppostion party that will bring the fight to PPP front-door, lead by Moses!

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Originally posted by Churchill:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

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Originally posted by Pointblank:


I was informed that AFC nominee Raphael Trotman was assured support to be Speaker of the National Assembly after I withdrew my candidature in favour of a compromise and to break the opposition grid-lock. This is a great day for Guyana and for democracy, that the parties receiving the majority of votes, could find common ground. I have been named among the 7 MPs from the AFC and look forward to resume my role as parliamentarian in our 3-party House. I thank all of you for your kind support and encouragement, which have made me strong to make the decision I made today. The team work among AFC leaders saw us through in this delicate and critical stage of our new democracy.


Moses Nagamootoo

Awesome!!! I really respect Mose's Country First attitude! This makes me so proud as a Guyanese to have a strong majority oppostion party that will bring the fight to PPP front-door, lead by Moses!

Moses has once again validated himself as a true patriot who is willing to put the interest of the country first and above party politics.....

I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

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Originally posted by Churchill:

Moses has once again validated himself as a true patriot who is willing to put the interest of the country first and above party politics.....

I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:
...I do not believe the AFC will fall by the way side, I think their negotiations with APNU for the Speaker is just proof that they are a practical Political Party. Here's a bold prediction: If a no cofidence vote is brought against the Gov't in the next 3 years, look for the APNU and AFC to form a coalition party led by Khemraj or Moses. These guys are talking and they have very similar mandates, its only a matter of time before the light bulb goes on.

Take off your blinders! APNU is PNC and PNC did not want to be led by Winston Murray although he was clearly the best man for the job. Roopnarine had to crawl and beg them to give him the deputy spot, and he turned out to be the best on the campaign field. Like PPP, which had Hinds step down from the presidency after he assumed it on Cheddi's death, both of these parties will only allow a particular etnicity at the top.

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

...then APNU thinks Trotman is still PNC. I and many who supported AFC also believe this to be true.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

...then APNU thinks Trotman is still PNC. I and many who supported AFC also believe this to be true.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
And listen and learn " PNC know Trotty is theirs"

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

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Originally posted by raymond:
Why would an AFC supporter support AFC if they think one of their founding members is PNC?...jeez...people...make some sense

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

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Originally posted by Nehru:
And listen and learn " PNC know Trotty is theirs"

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

Seriously, what am I missing here with these guys and this PNC bogey man. It's like you guys can't make a point without mentioning them and I don't understand what is so scary about them? The last time the PNC was revelant Michael Jordan had 1 Championship. I'm more scared of the guys in power now and how they pillage our country. $27.6 Billion secret deals with Chinese companies, $10.4 Billion deal for Marriot that no one knows who owns its. This was all done in 1 year, can you imagine what damage they did for the 11 years Jadego was President? So spare us this PNC bogey man crap.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
You were ALWAYS that NAIVE and unsophisticated????

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Originally posted by raymond:
Why would an AFC supporter support AFC if they think one of their founding members is PNC?...jeez...people...make some sense

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

I don't understand why you are so afraid of the PNC anyway. For the last 20 years the country was ruled by the PPP.

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Originally posted by alena:
Does Ramotar have the right to reject Trotman and call for new elections??

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Seriously, what am I missing here with these guys and this PNC bogey man. It's like you guys can't make a point without mentioning them and I don't understand what is so scary about them? The last time the PNC was revelant Michael Jordan had 1 Championship. I'm more scared of the guys in power now and how they pillage our country. $27.6 Billion secret deals with Chinese companies, $10.4 Billion deal for Marriot that no one knows who owns its. This was all done in 1 year, can you imagine what damage they did for the 11 years Jadego was President? So spare us this PNC bogey man crap.

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Originally posted by alena:
Does Ramotar have the right to reject Trotman and call for new elections??

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Originally posted by raymond:

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Originally posted by alena:
Does Ramotar have the right to reject Trotman and call for new elections??

ayuh wish..hahahahah maybe if you PPPites could have been smart enuff to come up with a new constitution, things would be different

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Originally posted by Mitwah:

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Originally posted by raymond:

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Originally posted by alena:
Does Ramotar have the right to reject Trotman and call for new elections??

ayuh wish..hahahahah maybe if you PPPites could have been smart enuff to come up with a new constitution, things would be different

With a snap election, the PPP will risk losing more members to the AFC; Moses started the trend, and they also risk losing more seats in Parliament.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Totally NOT True Mits. If there is a Snap Election, AFC will go down like UF and if Moses dont put his act together he will be SPIT on when he campaign next in berbice. Hold me to this.

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Originally posted by Mitwah:

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Originally posted by raymond:

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Originally posted by alena:
Does Ramotar have the right to reject Trotman and call for new elections??

ayuh wish..hahahahah maybe if you PPPites could have been smart enuff to come up with a new constitution, things would be different

With a snap election, the PPP will risk losing more members to the AFC; Moses started the trend, and they also risk losing more seats in Parliament.

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Originally posted by Mitwah:

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Totally NOT True Mits. If there is a Snap Election, AFC will go down like UF and if Moses dont put his act together he will be SPIT on when he campaign next in berbice. Hold me to this.

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Originally posted by Mitwah:

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Originally posted by raymond:

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Originally posted by alena:
Does Ramotar have the right to reject Trotman and call for new elections??

ayuh wish..hahahahah maybe if you PPPites could have been smart enuff to come up with a new constitution, things would be different

With a snap election, the PPP will risk losing more members to the AFC; Moses started the trend, and they also risk losing more seats in Parliament.

The empty promises of the PPP and the buse down of prominent Berbicians like Moses, Dr. Ramaya by Ramotar and Jagdeo is still fresh in the Berbician minds. The Skeldon Estate, blackouts more than days in the years for the past 20 years and the threat of de-recognising the Sugar Workers union by Ramotar will come back to bite the PPP in the butt. With a snap election, more Berbicians will vote on the issues and not traditionally PPP. Trotman might even be able to mobilise the votes in New Amsterdam which is dying a slow death under the PPP.

If Donald calls a snap election, he does not have enough of a performance record, hence he would be judged on Jagdeo's and the PPP record over the past 20 years. He stands to loose. Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Berbicans and Guyana in general are ALL aware of THE MOLE and how the PNC penetrated the Political System using BOTH Moses and Ramjattan. Guyanese ARE NOT STUPID. I just had a conversation with someone who observedthe Election in Guyana and spent time around the Country

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

I don't understand why you are so afraid of the PNC anyway. For the last 20 years the country was ruled by the PPP.

Your post was addressed to spicy but I'll respond.

Yes! The past 20 years Guyana has been ruled by the PPP, and let's take a look at some of the progress made.

1. GDP PER CAPITA...In 1991 when the PNC was in office GDP per capita in Guyana was $250 US---after 20 years of the PPP, GDP per capita is around $2500 US---that's nearly a 1000% increase.

2. TOTAL DEBT...In 1991 when the PNC was in office Guyana's total debt was $2.1 billion US---after 20 years of the PPP, Guyana's total debt is now around $1.04 billion US

3. GROSS FOREIGN RESERVES...In 1991 when the PNC was in office, Gross foreign reserves was around 123 million US---after 20 years of the PPP, gross foreign reserves is around $780 million US

4. GOLD AND RICE PRODUCTION---I'm sure you are aware of the impressive numbers compared to 1991 when the PNC was in charge.

CONCLUSION:

Guyanese do not want to return to the days when the PNC bankrupted the nation and Guyana was the 2nd poorest country in the southern hemisphere after Haiti.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

The PPP has been good for Guyana; the PNC was destructive.

I dont expect a response from you---like most PNC supporters---you're full of HOT AIR.

Rev

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

I don't understand why you are so afraid of the PNC anyway. For the last 20 years the country was ruled by the PPP.

Your post was addressed to spicy but I'll respond.

Yes! The past 20 years Guyana has been ruled by the PPP, and let's take a look at some of the progress made.

1. GDP PER CAPITA...In 1991 when the PNC was in office GDP per capita in Guyana was $250 US---after 20 years of the PPP, GDP per capita is around $2500 US---that's nearly a 1000% increase.

2. TOTAL DEBT...In 1991 when the PNC was in office Guyana's total debt was $2.1 billion US---after 20 years of the PPP, Guyana's total debt is now around $1.04 billion US

3. GROSS FOREIGN RESERVES...In 1991 when the PNC was in office, Gross foreign reserves was around 123 million US---after 20 years of the PPP, gross foreign reserves is around $780 million US

4. GOLD AND RICE PRODUCTION---I'm sure you are aware of the impressive numbers compared to 1991 when the PNC was in charge.

CONCLUSION:

Guyanese do not want to return to the days when the PNC bankrupted the nation and Guyana was the 2nd poorest country in the southern hemisphere after Haiti.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

The PPP has been good for Guyana; the PNC was destructive.

I dont expect a response from you---like most PNC supporters---you're full of HOT AIR.

Rev

Your Math is misleading, so yes even Math can lie.

1. The Real GDP as of 1992 was $736. The Real GDP as of 2011 is $1,293. This is a 75% increase over the past 20 years. Let's take a look at Trinidad, which has a very similar economy. It's real GDP in 1992 was $6368, to 2011 where it is now $15,722. That almost double the increase in Guyana's economy.

2. Guyana received debt relief from the HIPC and IDB for as follows: US$329M in 1999, US $65M in 2005, US$454 in 2007. That's US$858M in debt relief or 40% of the 1992 debt. So if your point was that they paid our debt, it is inaccurate, they were aided because of the poverty of the country.

3. In 1990 GYD exchange rate for the US Dollar was $39.533, today it sits at $204. When your currency is that devalued, you hold a lot more foreign reserves. It just means we are more succeptible to external markets. I do not see why this is even relevant a statistic of economic improvement.

4. Increase of the Gold and Rice production is due to improved effeciency. So I will give the government kudos for this measure, however it is still not improved by the margins that say Trinidad or other developing third world producers have.

Lastly, yes Guyana is no longer the 2nd poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, it's the "third". Beating out Nicaragua. My argument was never to return Guyana to the PNC, just that they are not the scapegoats anymore for the fail policies and corruption of the past 20 years.

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

Your Math is misleading, so yes even Math can lie.

1. The Real GDP as of 1992 was $736. The Real GDP as of 2011 is $1,293. This is a 75% increase over the past 20 years. Let's take a look at Trinidad, which has a very similar economy. It's real GDP in 1992 was $6368, to 2011 where it is now $15,722. That almost double the increase in Guyana's economy.

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

Your Math is misleading, so yes even Math can lie.

1. The Real GDP as of 1992 was $736. The Real GDP as of 2011 is $1,293. This is a 75% increase over the past 20 years. Let's take a look at Trinidad, which has a very similar economy. It's real GDP in 1992 was $6368, to 2011 where it is now $15,722. That almost double the increase in Guyana's economy.

According to the world bank, world development indicators these were the GDP per capita(current US dollars) figures for Guyana:

1992: Guyana's GDP per capita = $508.95

2010: Guyana's GDP per capita = $2945.16

That's a 578% increase in the GDP per capita under the PPP.


RE: TRINIDAD (data from world bank, world development indicators)

1992: Trinidad's GDP per capita = $4483.97

2010: Trinidad's GDP per capita = $15205.94

That's a 338% increase in GDP per capita in Trinidad.


COMPARING GUYANA & TRINIDAD:

Guyana's GDP per capita(based on current US dollars) increased 578% between 1992 and 2010; Trinidad's GDP per capita inceased 339% between 1992 and 2010.


Link: world bank, world development indicators

Please provide the link to the data you provided. Thanks.

Rev

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

Your Math is misleading, so yes even Math can lie.

1. The Real GDP as of 1992 was $736. The Real GDP as of 2011 is $1,293. This is a 75% increase over the past 20 years. Let's take a look at Trinidad, which has a very similar economy. It's real GDP in 1992 was $6368, to 2011 where it is now $15,722. That almost double the increase in Guyana's economy.

According to the world bank, world development indicators these were the GDP per capita(current US dollars) figures for Guyana:

1992: Guyana's GDP per capita = $508.95

2010: Guyana's GDP per capita = $2945.16

That's a 578% increase in the GDP per capita under the PPP.


RE: TRINIDAD (data from world bank, world development indicators)

1992: Trinidad's GDP per capita = $4483.97

2010: Trinidad's GDP per capita = $15205.94

That's a 338% increase in GDP per capita in Trinidad.


COMPARING GUYANA & TRINIDAD:

Guyana's GDP per capita(based on current US dollars) increased 578% between 1992 and 2010; Trinidad's GDP per capita inceased 339% between 1992 and 2010.


Link: world bank, world development indicators

Please provide the link to the data you provided. Thanks.

Rev

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Originally posted by raymond:
damn BK...yuh good

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Originally posted by raymond:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by raymond:

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I am concerned however that the APNU wanted to work with an AFC Trotman as opposed to an AFC Nagamootoo .....

APNU still think Moses is PPP...

...then APNU thinks Trotman is still PNC. I and many who supported AFC also believe this to be true.

then you also believe Ramjattan is still PPP ...man, allyuh full of "thoughts"

BTW, you are not an AFC supporter..stop the BS and talk straight!

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:
I hope Mr. Nagamootoo decide to NOT ACCEPT the MP seat for AFC. He should gracefully decline and retire from Guyana politics. History will still judge him kindly.

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Originally posted by marlon:
1. Does this mean that the PNC will not deal with anyone who was linked to the PPP?

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Originally posted by BOURDABOY:
This AFC party has a smart bunch of fellows. Both the PPP and APNU were set up. Why y'all think Trotty was not assigned a seat in the House from day one? Like they say in chess "Checkmate!" Moses will do very well in the House. Now stay tuned. Fireworks on the way!!

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

Your Math is misleading, so yes even Math can lie.

1. The Real GDP as of 1992 was $736. The Real GDP as of 2011 is $1,293. This is a 75% increase over the past 20 years. Let's take a look at Trinidad, which has a very similar economy. It's real GDP in 1992 was $6368, to 2011 where it is now $15,722. That almost double the increase in Guyana's economy.

According to the world bank, world development indicators these were the GDP per capita(current US dollars) figures for Guyana:

1992: Guyana's GDP per capita = $508.95

2010: Guyana's GDP per capita = $2945.16

That's a 578% increase in the GDP per capita under the PPP.


RE: TRINIDAD (data from world bank, world development indicators)

1992: Trinidad's GDP per capita = $4483.97

2010: Trinidad's GDP per capita = $15205.94

That's a 338% increase in GDP per capita in Trinidad.


COMPARING GUYANA & TRINIDAD:

Guyana's GDP per capita(based on current US dollars) increased 578% between 1992 and 2010; Trinidad's GDP per capita inceased 339% between 1992 and 2010.


Link: world bank, world development indicators

Please provide the link to the data you provided. Thanks.

Rev

1. GDP PER CAPITA...In 1991 when the PNC was in office GDP per capita in Guyana was $250 US---after 20 years of the PPP, GDP per capita is around $2500 US---that's nearly a 1000% increase.

How do you reconcile the two different sets of numbers you reported? The first time around you stated $250/capita, now its $508. The first time it was 1000% increase, now its 578%. As you can see my numbers are REAL GDP, not NOMIAL GDP, which is less reliable indicator of purchasing power of the population.

Please find the source of my Real GDP Figures below.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data/m...pitaIncomeValues.xls

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Originally posted by BK2BERLIN:

1. GDP PER CAPITA...In 1991 when the PNC was in office GDP per capita in Guyana was $250 US---after 20 years of the PPP, GDP per capita is around $2500 US---that's nearly a 1000% increase.

How do you reconcile the two different sets of numbers you reported? The first time around you stated $250/capita, now its $508. The first time it was 1000% increase, now its 578%. As you can see my numbers are REAL GDP, not NOMIAL GDP, which is less reliable indicator of purchasing power of the population.

Please find the source of my Real GDP Figures below.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data/m...pitaIncomeValues.xls