Canadian Armed Forces tweet 'Join us!' after U.S. president announces plan for expulsion

By Kathleen Harris, CBC News Posted: Jul 26, 2017 5:05 PM ET, Last Updated: Jul 26, 2017 5:05 PM ET, http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic...-trump-ban-1.4222787

As U.S. President Donald Trump pushes a new policy to banish transgender Americans from the military, Canada is taking steps to promote diversity in the ranks and recruit more gay, lesbian and trans troops.

Jordan Owens, spokesperson for Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, said the government is fully committed to building a defence team that "reflects Canadian ideals of diversity, respect and inclusion."

"Our diversity strategy and action plan will promote an institution-wide culture that embraces diversity and inclusion, and we will continue to focus on the recruitment and retention of under-represented groups within the Canadian Forces' ranks," she said in a statement to CBC News.

That's in sharp contrast to the U.S. president's new policy, announced through a series of Twitter posts today, which says transgender individuals will not be permitted to serve "in any capacity."

This afternoon, the Canadian Armed Forces tweeted about its welcoming approach to recruitment. 

"We welcome Cdns of all sexual orientations and gender identities. Join us!" it reads, with a photograph of Royal Canadian Navy Band members playing instruments festooned in Pride colours.

The Forces' existing policy statement dated Feb. 8, 2011, refers to "transsexual" members and offers guidance for commanding officers and leadership at all levels to prevent discrimination and harassment and to ensure all members are treated with dignity and respect regardless of gender identity.

Department of National Defence spokesperson Dan Le Bouthillier said that policy is currently under review, with an update including revised terminology and further guidelines for supporting transgender members scheduled to be finalized this fall.

Diversity a source of strength

"Diversity is viewed as a source of strength and flexibility, plays a pivotal role in making the Canadian Armed Forces a modern, forward-looking organization, and is imperative to the CAF's operational effectiveness," he said. "To achieve that objective, the CAF is committed to increasing diversity and promoting inclusiveness amongst its personnel." 

Trump cited "tremendous medical costs" and "disruption" that transgender members would cause for the military.

U.S. President Donald Trump announced a ban on transgender military members in a series of Twitter posts. (Chris Kleponis/Getty Images)

In Canada, 19 Forces' members completed sex reassignment surgery between 2008 and 2015 for a total cost of $319,000. 

The military also covers costs for hormone therapy, medications, psychological support and financial support for related travel for trans members.

The Defence Department does not track the number of transgender military members, and in the U.S. data is also hard to pin down. 

Last year, then U.S. defence secretary Ash Carter cited a study by the RAND Corporation think-tank that said there were about 2,500 active-duty service members and 1,500 service members who were transgender.

'Despicable directive'

NDP defence critic Randall Garrison said Trump's ban is based on ignorance and hate and predicted it will weaken military cohesion.

He called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to condemn the "despicable directive" to show that Canada respects human rights and stands up against discrimination.

"It is wrong and must be called out," he said in a statement.

"Service to one's country is of the highest honour. Transgender people who are currently in the military and those who wish to serve are, in many ways, the bravest of the brave."

With files from Katie Simpson

• Trump bans transgender troops

• Countries that allow trans military members

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

If you really know Cain, he will heise and kick you ass to Prodoville 2, den to kingdom come.

You mess with Cane and you messing wid de wrong person. If you tink he is what he writes hea, think again.

He is cool on GNI, but never get him mad, or you ass is toast.

Trump is an ass to discriminate against diversity and some American are dumb and stupid to elect him, including some on GNI who worship him as their lame brain idol.    

I'm sure I would lay a thrashing on you with both my hands tied behind my back. Now imagine if I were to be handed a weapon.

Brother Trump don't want Transgender in the U.S. Army, but Canadians are merry and gay to embrace the idea. Lordy, what would happen if the Canadians army have to fight side by side with U.S. army one day? How many of them would complain that their nail polish will ruin?

Many transgender soldiers have fought for all Americans whether Democrat or Republican for the freedoms that you and your hero Trump now enjoy.

What a relief, coCainE and lilmohan can now join the army and defend Canada. 

cain posted:

Many transgender soldiers have fought for all Americans whether Democrat or Republican for the freedoms that you and your hero Trump now enjoy.

I know someone with a goadee who did not have the balls to join the army. 

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

If they do, I don't believe they were active in any war. American Army always fights on their behalf on the international stage, but they refused to pay Trump for American blood.  

You should study American history, that is where you would find America lost against Canada. Canadians do not brag we use action.

Perhaps one is unaware of the Battle in 1812 when Canada defeated a hopeless US_of_A.

At that time the population for Canada was 500,000 and US_of_A 7.5 million.

At a later date, there was a conflict in the southern part of Alberta, when again Canada whipped the US_of_A.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Perhaps one is unaware of the Battle in 1812 when Canada defeated a hopeless US_of_A.

At that time the population for Canada was 500,000 and US_of_A 7.5 million.

At a later date, there was a conflict in the southern part of Alberta, when again Canada whipped the US_of_A.

The War of 1812 was fought between the British and the USA, Knucklehead. Canada did not become a country until July 1st 1867.

Didn't you just celebrate 150 years of Canada being a country?

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The military history of Canada comprises hundreds of years of armed actions in the territory encompassing modern Canada, and interventions by the Canadian military in conflicts and peacekeeping worldwide. For thousands of years, the area that would become Canada was the site of sporadic intertribal conflicts among Aboriginal peoples. Beginning in the 17th and 18th centuries, Canada was the site of four colonial wars and two additional wars in Nova Scotia and Acadia between New France and New England; the conflicts spanned almost seventy years, as each allied with various First Nation groups.

In 1763, after the final colonial war—the Seven Years' War—the British emerged victorious and the French civilians, whom the British hoped to assimilate, were declared "British Subjects". After the passing of the Quebec Act in 1774, giving the Canadians their first charter of rights under the new regime, the northern colonies chose not to join the American Revolution and remained loyal to the British crown. The Americans launched invasions in 1775 and 1812. On both occasions, the Americans were rebuffed by Canadian forces; however, this threat would remain well into the 19th century and partially facilitated Canadian Confederation in 1867.

After Confederation, and amid much controversy, a full-fledged Canadian military was created. Canada, however, remained a British dominion, and Canadian forces joined their British counterparts in the Second Boer War and the First World War. While independence followed the Statute of Westminster, Canada's links to Britain remained strong, and the British once again had the support of Canadians during the Second World War. Since then, Canada has been committed to multilateralism and has gone to war within large multinational coalitions such as in the Korean War, the Gulf War, the Kosovo War, and the Afghan war. Canada has also played an important role in United Nations peacekeeping operations worldwide and has cumulatively committed more troops than any other country.

Oi Mars at the time Canada was occupied by the British but regardless we(the inhabitants) still kicked America's butt when they tried to invade.

cain posted:

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Part of a series on the
Military history of Canada
Military history of...
Air Force Army Acadia Colonial Militia Crown & Forces Navy New France
Conflicts
Beaver Wars King William's War Queen Anne's War Father Rale's War King George's War Father Le Loutre's War French and Indian War Invasion of Canada War of 1812 Lower Canada Rebellion Upper Canada Rebellion Patriot War Fenian Raids Wolseley Expedition North-West Rebellion Second Boer War World War I Battle of Tulgas World War II Korean War October Crisis Oka Crisis Gulf War Somalia Croatian War Afghanistan Haitian Libya ISIL
Installations
Air Force Armed Forces French forts Navy
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The military history of Canada comprises hundreds of years of armed actions in the territory encompassing modern Canada, and interventions by the Canadian military in conflicts and peacekeeping worldwide. For thousands of years, the area that would become Canada was the site of sporadic intertribal conflicts among Aboriginal peoples. Beginning in the 17th and 18th centuries, Canada was the site of four colonial wars and two additional wars in Nova Scotia and Acadia between New France and New England; the conflicts spanned almost seventy years, as each allied with various First Nation groups.

In 1763, after the final colonial war—the Seven Years' War—the British emerged victorious and the French civilians, whom the British hoped to assimilate, were declared "British Subjects". After the passing of the Quebec Act in 1774, giving the Canadians their first charter of rights under the new regime, the northern colonies chose not to join the American Revolution and remained loyal to the British crown. The Americans launched invasions in 1775 and 1812. On both occasions, the Americans were rebuffed by Canadian forces; however, this threat would remain well into the 19th century and partially facilitated Canadian Confederation in 1867.

After Confederation, and amid much controversy, a full-fledged Canadian military was created. Canada, however, remained a British dominion, and Canadian forces joined their British counterparts in the Second Boer War and the First World War. While independence followed the Statute of Westminster, Canada's links to Britain remained strong, and the British once again had the support of Canadians during the Second World War. Since then, Canada has been committed to multilateralism and has gone to war within large multinational coalitions such as in the Korean War, the Gulf War, the Kosovo War, and the Afghan war. Canada has also played an important role in United Nations peacekeeping operations worldwide and has cumulatively committed more troops than any other country.

This is obviously written by a Canadian who doesn't know what he is talking about. The war was fought between the British military and the US. They might have gotten minimal help from Canadian natives like cleaning up the horse poop but Canada had no army at that time. You didn't even have a country much less an army. Y'all need to read and educate yourself rather than listening to made up stories of the brave wars that your country fought against the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

War of 1812

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

Not anymore.  Moved to Brampton.  I wanted to get the full experience of Coolieville, with Masala purging the air every morning I wake up.  Plus the enchantment of hot roti on Sunday morning at Rakica's was inviting.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

Not anymore.  Moved to Brampton.  I wanted to get the full experience of Coolieville, with Masala purging the air every morning I wake up.  Plus the enchantment of hot roti on Sunday morning at Rakica's was inviting.

How is the weather in Brampton right now? 

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

panditji i will help out aunty haniffa with the facts. the canadian armed forces comprises the canadian army, the royal canadian navy and the royal canadian air force. its commander-in-chief is queen elizabeth the second who is represented by canada's governor general. in canada's current budget Cad$18.6 billion has been allocated to the armed forces. generally the forces play a defensive and peacekeeping role abroad. canada is not a hawkish country that wants to dominate the world. the forces website: www.forces.gc.ca for more info.

Oi Ramenauth, how is the air quality in your neck of de woods.

cain posted:

Oi Ramenauth, how is the air quality in your neck of de woods.

The air smells like curry in a hurry over here in Coolieville!

Ramenauth posted:

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

panditji i will help out aunty haniffa with the facts. the canadian armed forces comprises the canadian army, the royal canadian navy and the royal canadian air force. its commander-in-chief is queen elizabeth the second who is represented by canada's governor general. in canada's current budget Cad$18.6 billion has been allocated to the armed forces. generally the forces play a defensive and peacekeeping role abroad. canada is not a hawkish country that wants to dominate the world. the forces website: www.forces.gc.ca for more info.

$18.6 billion budget for the armed forces?  Trump should build a wall on the Canadian border then.  This is dangerous!

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

Not anymore.  Moved to Brampton.  I wanted to get the full experience of Coolieville, with Masala purging the air every morning I wake up.  Plus the enchantment of hot roti on Sunday morning at Rakica's was inviting.

How is the weather in Brampton right now? 

Me hearing something about a snow blizzard, but not so sure.

cain posted:

Oi Ramenauth, how is the air quality in your neck of de woods.

as of 1:00pm mountain daylight time the air quality health index in calgary stood at 4 which falls into the moderate risk category.

Still having fallouts from the fire?

cain posted:

Still having fallouts from the fire?

 

yes. see http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...re-calgary-1.4223608

Dam! With all the fires in BC there shouldn't be any more trees left to burn.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Me hearing something about a snow blizzard, but not so sure.

I am making bake with salfish this Saturday AM for brecky.  You really look cute in that blue dress and blue bag.

When you "stop dreaming" you actually stop living. Why did you say that?

Ramenauth posted:

Mitwah posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Prince posted:

Amm, Canada would take anyone while America would choose who would be in the military?   I heard they recruited Cain, who is apparently on disability?  

Canada has an army?????????

Don't you live in Ajax?

panditji i will help out aunty haniffa with the facts. the canadian armed forces comprises the canadian army, the royal canadian navy and the royal canadian air force. its commander-in-chief is queen elizabeth the second who is represented by canada's governor general. in canada's current budget Cad$18.6 billion has been allocated to the armed forces. generally the forces play a defensive and peacekeeping role abroad. canada is not a hawkish country that wants to dominate the world. the forces website: www.forces.gc.ca for more info.

Bahut dhanyavaad! 

cain posted:

Dam! With all the fires in BC there shouldn't be any more trees left to burn.

Quite an unfortunate situation.

The smoke is affecting various places, even here in Edmonton.

cain posted:

Oi Mars at the time Canada was occupied by the British but regardless we (the inhabitants) still kicked America's butt when they tried to invade.

Correct Cain.

Demerara_Guy posted:

cain posted:

Oi Mars at the time Canada was occupied by the British but regardless we (the inhabitants) still kicked America's butt when they tried to invade.

Correct Cain.

Incorrect.

The war of 1812 was between the British and the US. At that time, the British had the most powerful navy in the world. Canada was not even a country and had no military. The military forces in the war were predominantly British and the leadership were all British. Some Canadian natives provided support for the British military in the form of concubine for the British soldiers and they also washed and cooked. The native Canadian men swept up the horse poop and bathe the horses similar to the flunkie duties you had on the weekends at Burnham's Belfield house.

I don't give a damn who the ****** is. As long as he can shoot, throw a grenade and don't send me photos of his penis then I don't have a problem with him being in the military.  Lawrence of Arabia paid women to beat him up regularly and got his kicks from that yet many Arabs still see him as a hero for liberating them from Turkish colonization.