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@Rochelle posted:

Hold tight. Apparently some folks were found compromised and on tape. 

This is one crazy election.

I find her language in her letter very pointed. She went to great length to inform the CEO that his actions are dependent on the Commission's direction and control. She seems to be stripping him of any of his misguided conceptions.

The only person who was found compromised on tape was Mingo during his actions leading up to his declarations on 3/5/2020 & 3/13/2020.

FM

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The LAW and the different wordings of the two Letters from  GECOM ,one on June 16 ,2020  [ for reference ] the recent on July 9 ,2020 requesting the report of the March 2,2020 elections from the CEO.

Burnham 1980 Constitution does have folks going around in circles.

Explanation below ,

Jaipaul Sharma

Chairperson of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM), Justice ( Ret'd) Claudette Singh is utilizing Section 18 of the Election Laws Act No 15 of 2000,
to DICTATE to the Chief Election Officer on what ADVICE he should provide to the Commission.

Section 18 of the Election Laws Act No 15 of 2000, Stipulate that the "Chief Election Officer are subject to the direction and control of the Commission".

However, Justice ( Ret'd) Claudette Singh, must know Article 8 - THIS CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF GUYANA AND, IF ANY OTHER LAW IS INCONSISTENT WITH IT, THAT OTHER LAW SHALL, TO THE EXTENT OF THE INCONSISTENCY BE VOID.

In addition, Justice ( Ret'd) Claudette Singh, must know Article 226 (1) - Save as otherwise provided in this Constitution, in the exercise of its functions under a Commission SHALL NOT be subject to the direction or control of any other person or authority. Therefore, CCJ would have known this and did not make any COERCIVE ORDERS and should not had set aside anything that was done by the Commission and the Chief Election Officer other than to advice on a course of action.

Article 177 (2)(b)
The Constitution of the Co-operative Republic of Guyana clearly Stipulated the Statutory functions of the Chief Election Officer in the process of the Chairperson of the Elections Commission declaring a Presidential candidate to be DEEMED to be elected as President.

Article 177 (2)(b)....Presidential candidate shall be DEEMED to be elected as President and shall be so declared by the Chairman of the Elections Commission ACTING ONLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADVICE OF THE CHIEF ELECTION OFFICER, after such advice has been tendered to the Elections Commission at a duly summoned meeting.

Based on Article Article 177 (2)(b) it is clear as day that Madame Chair CANNOT DICTATE to the Chief Election Officer as to what ADVICE must be provided to the Elections Commission, as such the action of Madame Chair based on the Gazetted Order is inconsistent with the Constitution of Guyana and therefore to the extent of the inconsistency is VOID.

NO other Officer of the Elections Commission can provide such ADVICE to the Elections Commission other than a substantive Chief Election Officer.

Django
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Re: the word "advice".

My dictionary says it can mean (1) opinion or recommendation, or (2) communication containing information. 

In the CONTEXT



of GECOM procedures, the Chairman has requested Lowenfield to provide written communication containing information extracted from the Certificates of Recount.

Unlike Claudette Singh's June 16 letter, this latest letter is specific. Lowenfield cannot provide information extracted from any other sources than those Certificates of Recount.

FM

In all organizations there are set hierarchies. GECOM and its Secretariat is no different. The buck still stops with the Chairperson followed by the six Commissioners. Those 7 persons make up the Constitutional body of GECOM. Everyone else including the CEO is a statutory employee of GECOM and is subject to the will of the Commission. Dereliction of duty and gross insubordination are perhaps the gravest employment violations with only theft and fraud being worst than them. To Lowenfield's discredit, he has allegedly committed all four of those.

My opinion of the word advise which is getting so much attention of late. It simply means that the statutory report announcing the declared votes along with the allotment of Parliamentary seats has to be presented on a form bearing the letterhead of the CEO office. While mostly not the case the result of the March 2, 2020 elections are known to more people than necessary so there is no denying which party received the most votes. But even in light of this mass media knowledge, its formal declaration still has to come from the CEO office. In my opinion, that is the context in which the word advise is used.

Hopefully the Coalition doesn't seek the Court's interpretation of that word. Hopefully Lowenfield's actions doesn't force the non-Coalition parties to seek the Court's interpretation of it either.

But if the Coalition decides to seek the Court's interpretation of it, my advise is that they try employing some of the legal help that they PPP/C uses because the ones they have utilized the past 19 months have been a dross failure.

FM

Yes. She is talking about blackmailing of Claudette Singh.

That would be the lowest blow, the most cruel and shameful blow. But the world is not asleep. International eyes are observing keenly the horrendous length that PNC-dominated APNU+AFC can go to derail democracy and hold on parasitically to power. Let's see how today ends.

FM
@Nehru posted:

Skelly, thee was dumb ass person in front of the Convention Center with a sign saying God will help Granger. I did not know God loves criminality, Barbaric behavior, inhuman acts, undemocratic practices and plain bully ism!!!

They think they can commit crimes and Jesus would save them. I see a *hit load of them on social media asking Jesus to give the bible carrying Lucifer Granger a win.

FM

The harder they come, the harder they fall.  The PNC are setting themselves for a hard fall.  The PNC will need a whole new posse of unsoiled leaders to resurrect them after this is over.

The PPP have to be looking at this as a moment in history when even their detractors and political opponents have unified and rally around them as a statement for democracy.  This can only be expected with a foreign aggression.  The PNC Barbarians at the Gates!

I hope they remember this when they take power (and this will happen) and take criticisms as critical support to do better and to listen, engage and respond favorably.

Everyone, except the PNC and their racist dead-enders, want the same thing, a democratic and progressive Guyana.

Dr Bharrat Jagdeo, the Destiny of all Guyana is in your hands to mold!

Baseman
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@Rochelle posted:

Hold tight. Apparently some folks were found compromised and on tape. 

This is one crazy election.

@Rochelle. Please see below.

Source

GECOM Chair lashes out at attempts to ‘create mischief’ in already ‘tense political’ environment

FM
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I am convinced that Congress Place people are getting a mental breakdown, running mad at top speed, concocting one desperate scheme after another. Having failed miserably to make dead people vote, they're now tormenting the living. No shame, no discretion, look at what they're doing to the GECOM Chairman. Pathetic fools.

FM
@Django posted:

The LAW and the different wordings of the two Letters from  GECOM ,one on June 16 ,2020  [ for reference ] the recent on July 9 ,2020 requesting the report of the March 2,2020 elections from the CEO.

Burnham 1980 Constitution does have folks going around in circles.

Explanation below ,

Jaipaul Sharma

Chairperson of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM), Justice ( Ret'd) Claudette Singh is utilizing Section 18 of the Election Laws Act No 15 of 2000, to DICTATE to the Chief Election Officer on what ADVICE he should provide to the Commission.


Article 177 (2)(b)....Presidential candidate shall be DEEMED to be elected as President and shall be so declared by the Chairman of the Elections Commission ACTING ONLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADVICE OF THE CHIEF ELECTION OFFICER, after such advice has been tendered to the Elections Commission at a duly summoned meeting.

Based on Article Article 177 (2)(b) it is clear as day that Madame Chair CANNOT DICTATE to the Chief Election Officer as to what ADVICE must be provided to the Elections Commission, as such the action of Madame Chair based on the Gazetted Order is inconsistent with the Constitution of Guyana and therefore to the extent of the inconsistency is VOID.

NO other Officer of the Elections Commission can provide such ADVICE to the Elections Commission other than a substantive Chief Election Officer.

Article 177 (2)(b) is indeed clear that the advice from the Chief Election Officer to the Chairman of GECOM must comply with the specific laws and process of the matter in hand.

The matter specifically relates to the election result by the Statements of Recount --SORs-- copies of which were provided to each political group and the original ones are with GECOM.

While all political groups know the results because of the SORs, it is GECOM that officially declares the results.

Hence, the information to be presented by Keith Lowenfield to GECOM's must coincide with the SORs presented to each political group.

FM
@Former Member posted:

I am convinced that Congress Place people are getting a mental breakdown, running mad at top speed, concocting one desperate scheme after another. Having failed miserably to make dead people vote, they're now tormenting the living. No shame, no discretion, look at what they're doing to the GECOM Chairman. Pathetic fools.

Don't be sure sure. The APNU is like a dangerous animal . When its back is against the wall it will come out attacking. Remember, Granger promised his supporters a good life. They expect that.  APNU is not going down without a fight. Theres a good chance some kind of violence can break out.  Problem here is, while coolie people burn tires and cornfields APNU supporters will burn down buildings. But let's hope it doesn't come down to this.

Sheik101

Breaking: Lowenfield fails to submit elections report, claims “clarity” needed

Chief Elections Officer Keith Lowenfield has failed to submit his final elections report as instructed by GECOM Chairperson Justice Claudette Singh.

Lowenfield was directed to submit the report, using the recount figures, by 14:00hrs today.

Guyana Times understands that the CEO is claiming that he needs “clarity”.

In her letter to Lowenfield, dated July 9, the GECOM Chair’s instructions were very clear.

She stated: “Section 18 of the Election Laws Act No 15 of 2000 stipulates that you are subject to the direction and control of the Commission.”

She further stated that: “In accordance with this section, and pursuant to article 177 (2) (b) of the Constitution and section 96 of the Representation of the People Act Cap 1:03, you are hereby requested to prepare and submit your report on the March 2, 2020 General and Regional Elections by 2pm on 10th July, 2020, using the valid votes counted in the National Recount as per Certificates of Recount generated therefrom.”

The seven-member Commission is currently meeting.

https://guyanatimesgy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Letter-1.jpeg

https://guyanatimesgy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Letter-continue.jpeg

FM
@Sheik101 posted:

Don't be sure sure. The APNU is like a dangerous animal . When its back is against the wall it will come out attacking. Remember, Granger promised his supporters a good life. They expect that.  APNU is not going down without a fight. Theres a good chance some kind of violence can break out.  Problem here is, while coolie people burn tires and cornfields APNU supporters will burn down buildings. But let's hope it doesn't come down to this.

NOT LIKE BUT ARE ANIMALS!!

Nehru
@Former Member posted:

Keith Lowenfield must know that he is under the control and directions of GECOM and he has no independence to act contrary to GECOM.

Preparation of reports by Keith Lowenfield must be done pursuant to the directions of GECOM.

I understand that lowenfield got  a math problem. But i didnt realize that he had a comprehension problem as well. How much more clarity he needs.

Must have failed both maths and english at the same time 😆 makes me further think how the hell he became a CEO. 😆

Sheik101
@Sheik101 posted:

They are afraid and rightfully so. If APNU had won these elections fair and square, why is the international Community up in arms against them especially Carricom.

Because your dearest Jagdeo has sold Guyana to its highest bidders, including those in the international community. 

They would rather him in office to do their bidding, than a God-fearing, honest man.

We would rather face our sanctions than see Guyana pillaged by greed.

Rochelle
@Sheik101 posted:

I understand that lowenfield got  a math problem. But i didnt realize that he had a comprehension problem as well. How much more clarity he needs.

Must have failed both maths and english at the same time 😆 makes me further think how the hell he became a CEO. 😆

Keith Lowenfield retired from the army where he served as a junior officer to David Granger.

Lowenfield was appointed by Steve Surujbally in 2014.

Interesting that Surujbally stated that there will be non-controversial issues by Lowenfield plus he hoped that he-Lowenfield will conduct his duties in a proper manner.     

Perhaps, we are seeing what Surujbally means by proper manner.

FM
@Rochelle posted:

Because your dearest Jagdeo has sold Guyana to its highest bidders, including those in the international community. 

They would rather him in office to do their bidding, than a God-fearing, honest man.

We would rather face our sanctions than see Guyana pillaged by greed.

Who sold Guyana's oil reserves for a mere 5% of the profits?

Who sold the mineral deposits in the Rupuruni district in 1987 for a mere 5% of the Profits? 

R
@Rochelle posted:

Because your dearest Jagdeo has sold Guyana to its highest bidders, including those in the international community. 

They would rather him in office to do their bidding, than a God-fearing, honest man.

We would rather face our sanctions than see Guyana pillaged by greed.

First off, Jagdeo is not my dearest. And what proof do u have that he sold Guyana to whoever you're claiming.  Were u there when these transactions took place? And what bidding are u talking about. Do explain. And if it's Granger u are referring to as this god fearing man, please..this is not the time to be cracking tasteless jokes.  And as far  sanctions goes, rest assured u are in no way like some of us here affected by that since u appear to live overseas. 

Btw, on the topic of greed. Where did the money from the treasury go?  I've seen nothing of value that the APNU did for the Guyanese people.  Not one new road or a mango tree planted. Somebody pulled a Mandrake?

Sheik101
@Former Member posted:

I am sure Lucifer provided him GDF and GPF body guards.

A very reliable source informed me that ABCE sat down with the heads of they army and police and told them to stand down. Warning them of serious consequences if they support this illegal cabal.

The current US ambassador is an ex military personnel. 

Fire on PNC balls everywhere.

FM
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Looks like Guyana will have to wait a bit longer. Lowenfield along with the three Coalition Commissioners did not show up for the meeting today.

‘Guyanese have waited long enough, declare results now’ – UK Gov’t official

FM

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