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@Jhango Even if PPP reuse 2015 total[70,203] they would still be about 6 to 7 thousand ahead....

 

So what happen to increases of voters in Region 4 ,that goes to APNU + AFC .Does not seem plausible APNU +AFC get just over 1k votes difference from 2015, while through out other Regions there are increase in votes. Took awhile to figure ,was able to crack it ,the PPP slick to come up with the tally for Region 4.

Django

@Jhango Even if PPP reuse 2015 total[70,203] they would still be about 6 to 7 thousand ahead....

So what happen to increases of voters in Region 4 ,that goes to APNU + AFC .Does not seem plausible APNU +AFC get just over 1k votes difference from 2015, while through out other Regions there are increase in votes. Took awhile to figure ,was able to crack it ,the PPP slick to come up with the tally for Region 4.[quote]

If the APNU/AFC got the SOP,s to prove region 4 a win...give me one good reason why they refuse to present them...

 

sachin_05

Ray, I just dispatched letters to both of our Senators today highlighting the most recent developments in Guyana. And Rochelle would be pleased to know that both of our Senators, Marco Rubio and Rick Scott are lifelong Republicans who both voted to acquit Trump in the recent impeachment case. For good measure, I also dispatched a similar letter to my House Representative so Congress are getting the information they need. I specifically asked for sanctions including the freezing of all proceeds from oil and gas until the PNC influenced GECOM complies with the law.

FM

BREAKING NEWS! CJ says Mingo must present Statements of Poll 

Mar 13, 2020 News, Source -- https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...-statements-of-poll/

Chief Justice Roxane George-Wiltshire today admonished the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) and its Returning Officer for the issues which followed her ruling.

The CJ said that her ruling was very clear. She further said that, in continuing, the Returning Officer must present the Statements of Poll for the observers and duly appointed candidates to see clearly.

Attorney-at-law for GECOM, Neil Boston, told the Chief Justice that GECOM will comply with her instruction.

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Chief Justice Roxane George-Wiltshire

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@Django, APNU get more that 1000 votes compared to 2015 in Region 4  - I believe it’s about 3000 . 

You are bringing your fcking lies too .. shit man .. all the fcking info is posted for the world to see - you have fcking cockey 

Is people like you who peddle wrong info to the holligans- ayo stop this fcking nonsense. 

FM
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I just spoke to my relatives in Guyana. They said police are harassing PPP supporters and anyone who speak against what’s happening is being targeted by police.  They said it’s back to full out Burnham days.  

Street bullying by blacks against Indians is becoming the norm again.  They are also harassing blacks who stand up for democracy. 

Berbice is agitating. I see civil conflicts coming. This is not like the Burnham days where America turned a blind eye. 

Guyana will become isolated!

FM

@Django, APNU get more that 1000 votes compared to 2015 in Region 4  - I believe it’s about 3000 . 

You are bringing your fcking lies too .. shit man .. all the fcking info is posted for the world to see - you have fcking cockey 

Is people like you who peddle wrong info to the holligans- ayo stop this fcking nonsense. 

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Shut the FCVK UP ,saying i am LYING.

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Django

If the APNU/AFC got the SOP,s to prove region 4 a win...give me one good reason why they refuse to present them...

Do they have to ?  no results have been declared for Region 4 ,to be disputed.

Look around which political party jumping the gun ,making declarations how much     many vote they get.

They are the ones who change the rules in the middle of the game when they introduce unverify spread sheet instead of SOP...Again one reason why they refuse to present the region 4 winning SOP and shut up all and bring closure...simple isnt it?

 

sachin_05

Django, if the PPP are the true riggers, why is it that they are the only ones who put their SOPs online for scrutiny? Why is it that they are the only ones calling for a recount of the votes. Why is it that they are only ones who have stated that they are willing to go back to the votes in the boxes if there are disagreements with the tabulation of the votes? If the APNU/AFC aren't the riggers, why is it that they have not called for any of these oversight measures? I include only the PPP and APNU/AFC because the fight is mostly between those two although all the other independent parties have vigorously opposed the PNC gaming of the system by GECOM. Don't say that the APNU/AFC aren't doing so because they are trying to stay out of GECOM's way because if you truly believe that, I own this bridge which you may be interested in buying.

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They are the ones who change the rules in the middle of the game when they introduce unverify spread sheet instead of SOP...Again one reason why they refuse to present the region 4 winning SOP and shut up all and bring closure...simple isnt it?

They who ?

They. the ones who were taken to court to comply with the constution to present/tally SOPs...final request wont bother you anymore... one reason why they refuse to present the region 4 winning SOP and shut up all and bring closure...simple isnt it?

sachin_05

Observers should leave Guyana and make a declaration similar to what OAS did and let Granger and the PNC rot with punishing sanctions.

Indians must rise up, show the PNC that power lies with the People. Jagdeo has been calling for calm but it’s time to abandon that policy. Granger only understands force. 

FM
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OK so that was Yearwood.  The video is clear as to who was the aggressor.  A magistrate will sort it out.  For those of you engaging in inflammatory and racist language you would be contributing to the tension that may be developing in Guyana.  When trouble begins the big ones will go to Pradoville and the others will suffer.  Most of you posting here will watch it all from the comfort of North America .  

T

People will see what they want to see. Don't try and convince them @Totaram. Hitting is apparently allowed and accepted. Of course if the tables were turned....

On a related note, realize how PPP/C reps have become silent on social media? The GECOM process will continue and conclude and they cannot stop it. They were present and chose to walk out. That was their choice.

Declaration to be made shortly. Forward ever, backward NEVER.

Rochelle

Statement from the Secretary-General of the Commonwealth on Guyana

13 March 2020
Statement by: Secretary-General of the Commonwealth, Patricia Scotland

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On 11 March 2020, the Acting Chief Justice of Guyana was unambiguous that public and transparent tabulation of the Statement of Polls is required to ensure the credibility of the process and address continued contentions regarding the tabulation and declaration of election results.

I am deeply concerned that the Returning Officer for Region 4 has so far refused to comply with the ruling of the Court.

Further, it is regrettable that contempt of court proceedings against the Guyana Elections Commission had to take place today 13 March. This morning’s 13 March ruling from the Chief Justice leaves no doubt that the Returning Officer for Region 4 is now required to ensure that all those present can transparently view the actual Statement of Polls during the tabulation process. The tabulation of results in Region 4 must be fully conducted in accordance with the ruling of the Acting Chief Justice.

The Commonwealth Charter, to which Guyana ascribes, recognises the inalienable right of individuals to participate in democratic processes, in particular through free and fair elections in shaping the society in which they live.

There is still time for the Guyana Elections Commission, including the Chairperson, the Commissioners, the Chief Elections Officer, and Returning Officer for Region 4  to ensure democracy is preserved in Guyana. The people of Guyana are fully deserving of this.

I have noted the concerns contained in previous statements issued by the Commonwealth Observer Group in Guyana, and those issued by other observers and member governments on the ongoing vote tabulation process in Guyana. If the tabulation of Region 4 results is not immediately and satisfactorily addressed in accordance with the ruling of the Acting Chief Justice, this would represent a serious violation of the fundamental political values of the Commonwealth.

FM
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Look ya'll try wid dem, I dont tek too long fuh trip out pon foolish people. Trust me budday this nonsense at Gecom is overbearing.Nothing but a circus of jokers. Who dem foolin not me..The law mek a judgement and the Retarded officer sorry Returning Officer keep breaching the process. Big people walk out pon dem cause is a set a wrong numbers dem calling out with inflation in certain areas. Meh got friends all over and most of them is afro brothers and sisters. Dont feel this is bout race, the average person out deh would tell u is bare stupidness goin on at Gecom..Another show tomorrow who Goin.....

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982+1,167+495+413 = 3,057 !!!

These are the things APNU-PNC CHRISTIAN supporters want u guys to Believe as they sit quietly watching our country enter UNCHARTED TERRITORY...

I need no friends or family who supports this blatant theft of our DEMOCRATIC RIGHT to choose our GOVERNMENT

I received some text concerning me calling out Christians for their HYPOCRISY..

I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE for such
FM

Today is a product of PPP antimanishness for 23 years.  PNC don’t give one shyte what jagdeo says. They will find accommodation with the western world and carry on. 

PPP coolies, ayuh guh suck wind. Cuss the Blackman for joining the military, he lazy, want free food.  Cuss the white man, dem want exploit we.

Well ayuh be contented mekking nuf nuf money, big house, nice car and couple woman.  And who can’t, cut cane, kech fish and plant garden. And there is defined the success of coolie society. Meanwhile Blackman joined the services, eat free and carry the gun. 

PNC knows who control Guyana.  If the end, who has the guns makes the rules!

FM

Baseman

That theory was applicable 25 years ago, these are the days of internet, cell phone cameras, twitter etc, .Sanctions and embargo have Iran , Cuba and Venezuela starving. Venezuela has oil, but they have shortages for medical supplies, food and other essential products.

 Let the PNC try deh, there will be a South American Uprising, and when Uncle Sam comes he will do a Two for ONE.

K

I asked Base a few days ago that while he knew since 2011 that the PNC would pull this stunt if they ever got back into government, he never said a word. He continued to keep that information to himself when information like that could bring people to consider what they were getting into when they voted like bosses back in 2015. One cannot sit on such information and now argues that Indians not being in the GDF and GPF is why the PNC can do what they did this week and next week. Base has still not told me why he kept that information to himself but that is fine with me as it is not my business really. The moment that the AFC had that Valentines Day kiss of death with the PNC I stopped seeing the AFC as credible.

FM

The silence from PPP/C supporters is deafening. They were always the first to post online, contesting this or that. Always the first to host a press conference, always the first to demand justice. 

Where is Anil now? Sanjeev? Irfaan? Jagdeo? Anyone home? Perhaps they have come to the realization that all the noise, threats, outcries and demands have come to nought. 

Perhaps they are planning their next move, but however destructive, Mr. Granger will be sworn in, and the Americas will find a way to still broker a deal to gain access to our oil. ExxonMobil is still at play here, and oil prices will bounce back by the time they are due to extract. 

See you all at the swearing in.  

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The big squeeze
The low price of oil will test governments in the Middle East and Africa

With less cash to bribe the people, some strongmen will resort to repression

Middle East and AfricaMar 12th 2020 edition

β€œIn the history of any nation there are special moments and seminal events,” said President Uhuru Kenyatta in August. He was celebrating Kenya’s entry to the club of oil producers with a symbolic shipment of 200,000 barrels. β€œThe first export of crude oil by our nation...marks a special moment in our history,” he declared.

Politicians love oil. Selling it generates easy money for governments; much easier than taxing citizens, who might then demand services, democracy and good governance. Petrodollars also lubricate patronage networks. They can be used to buy votes, silence rivals or, if that fails, fund a comfortable retirement abroad.

 
FM

Looks like Rochelle wet she panty ...

Follow the link for yourself.

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I am no fan of Bharat Jagdeo or Irfan Ali. I campaigned vigoursly against them and for the APNU + AFC coalition in these, and in previous, elections.
I consider the new smaller parties to be a mixed bag of decent Guyanese, political opportunists and disgruntled persons - i.e. no different from any other party. For the record, I consider Jonathan Yearwood to be a decent Guyanese and a person I respect. I was sorry to see what happened to him today
I believe I am a rational person capable of independent thinking, despite my political affiliation. Given all that has taken place over the last twelve days I am not sufficiently convinced that the results of the Region 4 elections as declared by the GECOM RO last Thursday (March 5th) accurately reflect the results recorded on the various statements of poll collected from the 879 polling stations.

FM

I see worse than this happening to Guyana because at least these people have oil on their land where they can reach it. Guyana is so fvcked that theirs in in the sea where Guyana cannot get to it. They will not know that the oil has been drawn and the proceeds deposited into a frozen account in the US.

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@Dave.  I never lived one single day under PPP rule.  We all knew what the GDF under the PNC represented.  My reference to the failure of the PPP relates to their 23 years.  I was long gone.

@Ksazma Regarding what I heard in 2011 while with the AFC, I mentioned that multiple times over the years on this forum.  That's why I was so apprehensive about the PNC taking power.  But dem Coolie crabs wanted to see the back of Jagdeo!  Maybe you missed in, but I mentioned it several times.

Ayuh full with excuses for the strategic failure of the PPP which produced today.  Not like Indians did not join, they did, but in small numbers.  How did Gajraj, Joe Singh, etc rise in the GDF?

PNC now got lil oil money coupled with the Venezuela threat, they will increase the forces to 10,000 with 95% Afros and PPP days done!

FM
 BREAKING

AFC’s Gaskin says not β€˜sufficiently convinced’ about Region Four RO’s figures

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This story is developing and will be updated.

Alliance For Change (AFC) executive Dominic Gaskin today said he was not β€œsufficiently convinced” that the results declared by the Returning Officer (RO) for Region Four on March 5th accurately reflected the statements of poll from the 879 polling stations.

 

In a Facebook post tonight, he said had a difficulty accepting that all the persons and organizations who have so far deemed the process to lack credibility have gotten it wrong.

He said he also has a difficulty understanding why GECOM, specifically the Region 4 RO, would not be bending over backwards to convince the various observers that his tabulation process was sound and the results credible.

The RO, Clairmont Mingo has been roundly criticised by the observer groups for not complying with the the order on Wednesday of Chief Justice Roxane George.

FM

@ Skeldon_man

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Rochelle and Totaballs always quote the PNC thugs and terrorists. They never post anything here what the observers have experienced. Looks like anytime they see the observers' statements they seem to be crossing their legs.

FM

From a column I did last year (SN: Sep 29, 2019): "Having said that, is it just guile which allows the president to go against the very constitution of his hero, Forbes Burnham? That tinkered Burnham-Shahabuddeen constitution, which Professor Rudy James noted was built on the foundation of a one-party or dictatorial constitution of Tanzania?

I don’t think it was guile. It was power! As a thought experiment, ask yourself whether the PPP could have delayed elections for close to one year if it had lost a no-confidence vote. As Mr. Ravi Dev said, the PNCR controls the β€˜disruptive arms of the State.’ I like to think about it this way: the PNCR had a credible strategy of destabilisation when it was in opposition and the PPP/C has none. The PNC demonstrated this clearly after the 1997 general election. The protests established the conditions for the more violent outcomes after the jailbreak in February 2002. In other words, the PNCR has de facto power and the PPP/C does not. When in government the PPP/C has to hope the β€˜disruptive arms of the State’ provides it with some de jure power. This fact has not yet been considered in the PPP/C’s post-2015 strategy set.

FM

@Former Member Rochelle and tota from day one was pnc die hard was not hard to miss but ahyu boy jhango had a lot of y’all fooled- rub shoulder and hang with yall for a good while as neutral. Didn’t fool me though, knew he was a snake. He even achieve moderator status and sanction Free speech in PNC favor for a good while before he was busted and strip. Kinda remind me the devil bitch Claudette ...I think they are related...

sachin_05

Sase Gunraj

IT’S 11PM....

And I’m forced to report that all is not well in our country.

1. RO Mingo is preparing to make a declaration based on a fraudulent ascertaining process.

2. The Statements of Poll were scanned and projected on the stained bed sheet/cardboard contraption that served as a screen.

3. The Statements of Poll were evidently tampered with. There were visible alterations...figures changed, numbers scratched out and replaced.

4. The physical infrastructure and circumstances of the facility used leaves much to be desired.

5. There were boisterous mobs outside the GECOM High Street Office who physically prevented free ingress and egress by persons entitled by law to be present, verbally assaulted persons trying to do so and actually hit some persons going into the office, including me.
6. Even though the proffered excuse for the shift in venue was the availability of equipment to comply with the CJ’s ruling, there was similar equipment at Ashmin’s and preparations under the supervision of PA to the CEO, Duarte Hetsberger, were ongoing since yesterday.

7. The Police condoned the behavior of the mob, because even though they observed clearly breaking the law were left to do so.

But alas...I am aware that representatives of several parties are prepared to make requests for recounts and I not that the Chairman made certain pronouncements about the recount process.

This is a sad and dark day in the history of Guyana. I really never envisaged that my beloved country would have to suffer through in 2020, or ever again!!

UPDATE:

RO Mingo refused to allow any requests for objections to be filed. Whisked away under heavy presence!!!

Picture was moments before the process was completed

 

RO Mingo refused to allow any requests for objections to be filed. Whisked away under heavy presence!!!

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FM
In what is a clear case of fraud, provision was made for the signatures of 'witnesses' on the Region 4 declaration.

Interestingly, the only 'witness' who signed was the embattled APNU+AFC Coalition's Carol Joseph.

This is a clear attempt to obfuscaste the conspiracy between the PNCR-led APNU+AFC Coalition and complicit GECOM officials – a conspiracy to perpetrate electoral fraud – which led to signature of Volda Lawrence appearing on last week’s fraudulent declaration for Region 4.

The fact remains that in ALL nine other Regions, only the stamp and signature of the Returning Officer was on the official declarations of election results in those areas. This move will not absolve those implicated in the private criminal charges that have been filed with the court
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For days now Mr Lowenfield was preparing a site with chairs outside of the GECOM headquarters. The Commissioners saw it and they didnt know why. Tonight the plan was revealed. The police were brought to the site in large numbers, they allowed APNU+AFC protesters to have free reign outside. The protesters were allowed to abuse the media, candidates and observers and also, prevented them from getting in.
Then the RO showed up with a police escort, made the fradualent declaration then was surrounded by police and taken away before the party agents had a chance to give him the request for a recount.
There are some elements in the Guyana Police Force that are working as part of the APNU+AFC plan to rig the elections. We have already identified them to the international community and will expose the others.
The party will speak more on this issue tomorrow.

FM
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If amral gives Django this site after his bullshit rationalizing of the theft of our nation's franchise I will not be here.  Let this  f u***king one die. I cannot abide with the those who deliberately sought to ruin my country with crass and ignorant lies. Actually, I am deleting my name.

FM
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