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Morning!
Can this be the official thread for any and everything related to the recount? Letβs see what other issues arise today.
@Rochelle posted:Morning!
Can this be the official thread for any and everything related to the recount? Letβs see what other issues arise today.
Likewise.
Sure we can use for updates.
Day 1
Day 1
The PNC are offering Exxon a sweetened deal if they influence the USG to support their coup. They will use the current weakness in oil to add sweeteners but if oil goes back up it will never be fully mitigated for the Guyanese people. A few people are in on the arrangement will get super rich. However, Guyana will do only slightly better than when sugar was firing on all cylinders.
BREAKING NEWS:
PNC riggers exposed again
STATEMENT BY Josh Kanhai
GECOM CEO lacks integrity!
His actions does not make the tabulation process smooth at all.
A complete breach of order 9 in the official Gazette of Guyana.
"A tabulation of the SOR generated AFTER the aforementioned action on paragraph 6 and 7 will be done at the central tabulation center..."
The CEO and his team have gone rogue and acting in their own capacity ?
We objected and now he wants the commissioners to have a meeting about what's already written. What nonsense!
This man jumps around like Humpty-Dumpty way toomuch.
Now : We sit and wait in the tabulation center. All stations have started their counts as well, fairly on time.
APNU+AFC equipped with death certificates, migration records for recount process
Recount Day Two: No truth to claims of secret meeting and collusion β Party Agents
Arthur Chung Convention Center security camera, caught IT tech being compromised.
Day 2
May 7 2020
Day 2
May 7 2020
Recount kicks off with hiccups and complaints
o GECOMβs audio live stream of no use
o Region one ballot box soaked
o APNU+AFC agents report discrepancies
o Coalition engaged in delaying tactics β PPP
May 07, 2020 News 0 , Source - Kaieteur News Online, - https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...cups-and-complaints/
The National Recount of votes kicked off with a slow, late start yesterday at the Arthur Chung Conference Centre.
Recount stakeholders lined up at the centre early in the morning
Stakeholders and the media corps were outside of the venue hours before the slated start time of 8:00 am.
However, the entrance of all stakeholders took hours, due to need for police officers and officials of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to check each entrant to the venue for security threats, temperature checks, accreditation, and to ensure they were heeding the COVID-19 safety precautions.
Sanitisation exercises are being conducted at intervals every few hours, even after everyone leaves, Ward told the press yesterday. This is meant to ensure the safety and wellbeing of all involved.
When most of the stakeholders were let into the venue, the Chair, Claudette Singh, made general remarks, then allowed the Chief Elections Officer, Keith Lowenfield to conduct a briefing.
By the end of the first hour, presidential candidate of The Citizenship Initiative, Rhonda-Ann Lam said that teams had already spread out to their respective stations.
The audio streams of the count are available on the Guyana Elections Commissionβs (GECOM) Facebook page. But as the count ensued at each of the 10 work stations, the audio-only broadcast was practically inaudible to the listening public, and received very few shares and reactions on Facebook.
The Guyana Elections Commission briefs the recount stakeholders on the first day
GECOM also failed to provide photos of the ballot boxes in the state they were delivered to the work stations, as catered for in the gazetted legal order for the recount, which would have assured the public that the ballot boxes were not tampered with.
Commissioner Vincent Alexander commented on the issue of streaming from inside of the Conference Centre. According to him, concerns were expressed about a media house which volunteered to live stream the recount in its entirety. However, they were only allowed into the Centre to take photographs, but these pictures contained the identity of GECOM workers and were posted on social media.
This, he stressed was one of the key reasons why the recount is not being live streamed, to avoid exposing the workers to a hostile environment. That prohibition, he noted was made explicitly clear prior to the recount.
Speaking to the press yesterday, AFC executive David Patterson said that GECOM had to allow each party to have a representative in the workstations.
Kaieteur News understands that there was a slight delay of the start of the count even then because, according to Patterson and Ward, one party could not locate the keys to unlock certain containers.
But PPP presidential candidate, Irfaan Ali and LJP presidential candidate, Lenox Shuman said that the issue was that the locks were inoperable because they had been on the container for a very long time. Patterson said that, as a result, the chains had to be cut.
Patterson also said that there were about 300 people in the compound, including persons entitled to witness the count, GECOM staff, caterers, security and medical personnel.
PPP executive Anil Nandlall met with reporters early on and hopes the process runs smoothly.
The region one ballot box that was filled with water
Region one ballot box soaked
There were reports coming out of the centre that the contents of a certain ballot box may be in jeopardy. At midday, Ward confirmed reports that water had seeped into a Region One ballot box.
She said that the box likely collected water over time from rain, due to how it was positioned under a hole in the container it was housed in. GECOM has drained the box and is in the process of trying to dry the contents. It appears to be the only ballot box that had water in it.
βGuyanese Criticβ refused access after being accredited twice
Mikhail Rodrigues, more popularly known as βGuyanese Criticβ yesterday indicated online that he received badges of accreditation for two parties.
He is accredited as a Tabulation Agent for The New Movement (TNM) and Standby for the Liberty & Justice Party (LJP).
The badges were signed by GECOM Chief Elections Officer Keith Lowenfield.
APNU+AFC frontbencher, Joseph Harmon complained to GECOM after realizing this, and asked the electoral body to revoke his accreditation. GECOM then barred Rodrigues from entering the centre.
APNU+AFC agents report discrepancies
Simona Broomes of APNU+AFC told reporters that she noticed some anomalies βfrom the outsetβ as she observed the count of the first box examined at a Station Four, for Region Two. She refused to comment on the nature of the anomalies, but explained that she registered any concerns she had, as the protocols allowed and said βit will go through the channelsβ. Despite this, Broomes said that the operations are moving smoothly.
The two accreditation badges held by βGuyanese Criticβ
Carol Joseph of APNU+AFC said, after Station Nineβs count of its first box, that there were issues with the six-digit numbers being stamped on the ballot twice in several cases. She said her party has found a lot of discrepancies, which tended to cause delays.
Responding to concerns about those delays, Joseph said that people have to have a chance to query things.
The party has said that the PPP/C does not want the recount to be anything more than a numerical count, because it would uncover a lot of discrepancies.
βWe are not only saying these things. We have proof; we have the documentation of what we are saying!β
Joseph was observed to have been involved in a heated argument with others in her work station yesterday, indicated by a video circulating online. Due to the video circulating online, Presidential Candidate of the Liberty and Justice Party (LJP) Lenox Shuman said that her behaviour is sufficient grounds to have her removed from the process, and that she should be barred from returning.
Joseph had also gotten into a physical altercation with a member of another party when the second Region Four tabulation was being conducted at GECOMβs Kingston office. She is also the agent who, according to multiple sources, demanded that Region Four Returning Officer Clairmont Mingo restart the tabulation at the Hadfield Street Ashminβs Building weeks ago, which was later found to be unlawful.
Another APNU+AFC Candidate, Ganesh Mahipaul started his address to the press by saying βClearly, there are problems in these ballot boxes.β
His observation showed a minimal increase of one vote in a count he observed for a PPP stronghold, and he said that this is why it was important for the recount to be done.
Patterson said that the party came prepared to raise questions about any anomalies, and that it has the evidence to back up their concerns.
APNU /AFC claims dead voter
Patterson stated that his party was aware of the name of an individual who had died listed as having voted. According to him, the GECOM
A death certificate was later posted on social media by coalition supporters with the name Emmanuel Williams attached.
On the death certificate, it was claimed that Williams, a 70-year-old, died on June 10, 2019 at the Suddie Hospital of Chronic Kidney Disease. The death certificate was issued on February 2, 2020.
The coalition claimed that Williams was a registered voter at Karawab Primary School, Essequibo in Region 2.
On the voting list, it was allegedly stated βBOX 2001, DISTRICT #2 (REGION 2), DIVISION # β 21123, POLLING STATION β KARAWAB PRIMARY SCHOOL, SERIAL # β 264 NAME β WILLIAMS, EMANUEL.β
GECOMβS PRO Yolanda Ward in her recount of the dayβs proceedings, acknowledged that claim. However, she noted that GECOM has not sought the authenticity of the allegation but since it has been brought into the publicβs eye, the Commission will be investigating it.
She stated that GECOM has a procedure that addresses the removal of names from the final list of voters.
βA name is on a list, for GECOM, we do not know who is dead, who is alive, because there was no objections or even if there was an objection, there has to be adequate proof that that person is actually dead for us to remove that,β Ward explained.
She stated that without that claim, and the necessary administrative process, a name on a list, GECOM has no control over that particular aspect.
βIt is a scrutinized process; party agents are present and such an occurrence should not take place.β
APNU+AFC engaged in delaying tactics β PPP
After the count of the second ballot box was completed for Region Four β Station Nine, APNU + AFC representative Carol Joseph advocated for the conclusion of operationsβtwo hours before the close-off time which was allocated for 7PM. Joseph argued that opening a new ballot box would take them way beyond 7PM and thought it was best for them to conclude the process.
Against this backdrop PPP/C representative Anil Nandlall argued that βThese deliberate decisions that are being made are not very encouraging.β
Ward gave a quick rundown of the dayβs proceedings at the close.
βThere were some administrative challenges that we faced and were brought to our attention from the political parties. As a result, the Commission met briefly to discuss some of these issues and they were able to arrive at some decisions regarding those.β
She raised the issue of use of phones, since several broadcasts were sent out on Facebook during the day.
βAll of those persons at the count were informed of this and so the decision of the Commission is that henceforth people will be cautioned to desist from such a practice, and if they are found to do so then they will be escorted from the premises of the Convention Centre. This is being done to preserve the security and safety of the GECOM staffers and the count.β
According to the PRO, GECOM has thus far managed to conduct the recount of 25 ballot boxes.
A banna died June 2019, death cert issued Feb 2020. I guess he wasn't in a rush for that certificate anyway, so what the heck. Good ting he doan have to show it at the pearly gates or by the oven door and if he was Muslim he wouldn't be able to get dem seven virgins without showing proof that he died. Only in Guyana tarasss.
Full video. See :29 second for proof of compromise. Something was being handed over. Perhaps a USB drive?
@Rochelle posted:Full video. See :29 second for proof of compromise. Something was being handed over. Perhaps a USB drive?
Who are these people? And when you say they are PERHAPS handing over a USB drive what do you mean? Only PNC people know to hand over USB drive in front of the whole world.
@Bibi Haniffa posted:Who are these people? And when you say they are PERHAPS handing over a USB drive what do you mean? Only PNC people know to hand over USB drive in front of the whole world.
...and PPP people know how fo do it in the sly nuh gyal?
Day 2
May 8 2020
The Returning officer Jagdeo any relation to BJ? By what I heard he sound like a scamp man.
A TCI representative also noted PPP/C SOPs discrepancies. The discredited SOPs have now disappeared on PPP/C's website.
I ask again - who REALLY are the RIGGERS here? The ones screaming from the mountain top "Democracy" and "Transparency".
This is what rigging looks like.
@Rochelle posted:A TCI representative also noted PPP/C SOPs discrepancies. The discredited SOPs have now disappeared on PPP/C's website.
I ask again - who REALLY are the RIGGERS here? The ones screaming from the mountain top "Democracy" and "Transparency".
This is what rigging looks like.
Rochelle gal, how can you call PPPC spreadsheet rigging, when this document was created by the party for it own tabulation, which is NOT authentic... mistake can be made with the input of figures. Even GECOM will not rely on this excel document. PPPC upload their SOPs on their website which match the SOR (Recount) and that is important.
BTW, I see you took Shaz comments and run with it, you missed his comments where they accused him of been a PPP...lol . I posted this part of his comments earlier, he also said, PPPC and APNU/AFC knew seconds after the polls were closed who won the election. ( DJ knows this ,ask him ) but yet APNU/AFC refused to declare their SOPs, but claiming victory... funny eh.
APNU/AFC has their own tabulation of the SOPs. How in Gods name, can PPPC provide SOPs signed by APNU/AFC party agents and then try to rig the results... explain this Madame lawyer.
You and me and uncle Django can create our own spreadsheet using the SOPs that PPPC upload. Lets concentrate on getting this recount done with transparency and credibility. The peddling of misinformation is causing division and hatred that will take us decades to rebuilt.
@Former Member posted:Rochelle gal, how can you call PPPC spreadsheet rigging, when this document was created by the party for it own tabulation, which is NOT authentic... mistake can be made with the input of figures. Even GECOM will not rely on this excel document. PPPC upload their SOPs on their website which match the SOR (Recount) and that is important.
BTW, I see you took Shaz comments and run with it, you missed his comments where they accused him of been a PPP...lol . I posted this part of his comments earlier, he also said, PPPC and APNU/AFC knew seconds after the polls were closed who won the election. ( DJ knows this ,ask him ) but yet APNU/AFC refused to declare their SOPs, but claiming victory... funny eh.
APNU/AFC has their own tabulation of the SOPs. How in Gods name, can PPPC provide SOPs signed by APNU/AFC party agents and then try to rig the results... explain this Madame lawyer.
You and me and uncle Django can create our own spreadsheet using the SOPs that PPPC upload. Lets concentrate on getting this recount done with transparency and credibility. The peddling of misinformation is causing division and hatred that will take us decades to rebuilt.
The recount is in progress, let's focus on that.
If "mistakes can be made" and there is now a sudden need to "concentrate on getting this recount done", why would PPP/C take the time to EDIT/MODIFY documents and upload their revised spreadsheet on their website??
Please note below as evidence, which can also be seen on your own accord at the below website:
https://region4sopsinformation.com/SOPS/
Now you want to equate this unraveling as "peddling of misinformation"???
The above are FACTS of what occurred and what PPP/C is trying to do. Cover up their lies!
For you or anyone to not see that shows that you're part of the problem.
A good day to you.
@cain posted:The Returning officer Jagdeo any relation to BJ? By what I heard he sound like a scamp man.
Not related, i know him.
DG, does the above post have anything to do with the recount?
@cain posted:DG, does the above post have anything to do with the recount?
Yes it does. Carol Joseph has replaced Mingo as Chief Rigger Extraordinaire for the PNC. Stay far from her she like beat Putagee man bad. She throw some good hand on Yearwood from ANUG party when PNC was trying to pull off the rig in March.
The doctor(s)at fault here, should be charged.
APNU+AFC Agent Carol Joseph disrupts Region Four vote recount process
APNU+AFC Agent Carol Joseph this morning disrupted the vote recount process of Region Four (Demerara Mahaica).
Joseph began behaving in a vociferous manner, yelling at other stakeholders present at one of the work stations.
She is heard telling another stakeholder: βwho the hell is you? He has to listen to me. I am a stakeholder here!β
Presidential Candidate of the Liberty and Justice Party (LJP) Lenox Shuman, during an interview with media operatives, expressed concerns about an apparent attempt by the APNU+AFC coalition to derail the process .
βWhen we were at Ashminβs building, there was a person who threatened (violence against other observers) β¦the lady and (other agents) all tried to disrupt the Region Four count at the very same timeβ¦So that could not just be something by chanceβ¦It is obviously an attempt to derail the count at this time.β
Joseph was already embroiled in controversy during the vote tabulation for Region Four when she allegedly provoked Executive member of A New and United Guyana (ANUG), Jonathan Yearwood.
On the day in question, Joseph had spent the afternoon haranguing and harassing other representatives from other political parties- including some GECOM staff.
Carol Joseph disrupting the vote recount process
@Bibi Haniffa posted:Yes it does. Carol Joseph has replaced Mingo as Chief Rigger Extraordinaire for the PNC. Stay far from her she like beat Putagee man bad. She throw some good hand on Yearwood from ANUG party when PNC was trying to pull off the rig in March.
How about a match between BiniHaniffa and Carol Joseph?
Day 3
May 8 2020
Too many fraud uncovering in the recount, seems there were no honest people managing the elections. Region 3 is a hot bed for fraud.
What's Democratic about stealing elections ?
Hopefully, the election result is conducted by strict management/direction of GECOM plus carefully observed by the respective party representatives and designated observers.
Let the chips fall as the process continues; and hopefully all will be open, clear and transparent.
Should the process continue with openness, one must accept the results when officially provided through the Chairman of GECOM.
@Demerara_Guy, who is the Chairman of GECOM?
@Django posted:Too many fraud uncovering in the recount, seems there were no honest people managing the elections. Region 3 is a hot bed for fraud.
What's Democratic about stealing elections ?
And where is this fraud Django. Your comments is exactly the same to a bunch of PNC cabals on social media who wants to derail the recount. So far the recount is matching the declare SOPs by PPPC and APNU/AFC refused to declare theirs.
The mischievous PNC is implying mercury / Russians were inside the containers ... lol.
1) GECOM's PR Officer has indicated that at no time today was the issue of the 'secret meeting' raised at the level of the Commission, when it met. I keep urging everyone to get their information directly from GECOM.
2)See the attachment.
This is what crooks like Sherod Duncan is peddling on social medial. Let the process works it way and if anyone is guilty of fraud they should be jail when all this is done.
14:15hrs - These are the Statement of Recounts (SoRs), observation report, and checklist for box number 4041 at Soesdyke Primary School, Polling Division 412121 C.
All party agents present in the workstation received a copy of these four
Whose REPORT shall u Believe?
Good Morning my friends .
It is my pleasure to report PPPc got two [2] more votes in Box#4040 -from 149 to 151.
I would like to encourage u guys to go compare the STATEMENT OF RECOUNTS [SORs] and the STATEMENT OF POLLS [SOPs] that were published by the PPPC...Do your own comparisons.
NOTE: All SORs are signed once again by GECOM staff , all Party Agents and Observers at the counting station ;copies are made and distributed in the presence of and to everyone.
PNC in March.
"We have convincingly won the Elections. The elections were fair and credible. Our statement of polls (which we refuse to release) shows this ...and a recount will also show this....this is why we encourage a recount ....but it's the PPP/C who is FRUSTRATING the process...."
PNC in May.
"The election was rigged! The PPP/C rigged the elections. We can prove this....here's a list of dead people and here's a list of people that migrated. Objection! Stall the count, PPP rigged the election.β
@Former Member posted:And where is this fraud Django. Your comments is exactly the same to a bunch of PNC cabals on social media who wants to derail the recount.So far the recount is matching the declare SOPs by PPPC and APNU/AFC refused to declare theirs.
The mischievous PNC is implying mercury / Russians were inside the containers ... lol.
1) GECOM's PR Officer has indicated that at no time today was the issue of the 'secret meeting' raised at the level of the Commission, when it met. I keep urging everyone to get their information directly from GECOM.
2)See the attachment.
It's proven here ,you are being disingenuous.
Go and check the website spreadsheet gone with wrong entry to show PPP/C have more votes.. I have downloaded all data from the site.
Also the above is removed.
@Former Member posted:14:15hrs - These are the Statement of Recounts (SoRs), observation report, and checklist for box number 4041 at Soesdyke Primary School, Polling Division 412121 C.
All party agents present in the workstation received a copy of these four
Glad they are feeding you but are you doing your job? Look at the Ballot Box Checklist just above. It shows that for Box 4041 APNU got 53 votes in the General but zero in the Regional while ANUG got zero in the General and 53 in the Regional. Doesn't this strike you as being odd?
@Django posted:It's proven here ,you are being disingenuous.
Go and check the website spreadsheet gone with wrong entry to show PPP/C have more votes.. I have downloaded all data from the site.
Also the above is removed.
You are peddling mischievous information banna and you should desist from this. A tabulation sheet or spreedsheet is an excel doc created by the parties to input numbers from the SOPs and mistakes can be made. GECOM is the sole entity to declare the final tabulation using their own data. Look at the SOP on the same PPPC website which is the original and see it matches almost 99% to the Recount. Since when its is the responsibility of political parties to tabulated results.I am sure all the overseas observers have done their own tabulation of the SOPs.