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I am sure Mr. Gilbakka will lend me his space to explain the word patriotic. Every sons and daughters that were born in Guyana are citizens by birth of our country, regardless where we live. In any occasion of national importance, we put aside party affiliation and celebrate as one nation, and that's what make us all patriotic.    

However, patriots comes in two ways. One is to agrees with the government on everything without an opposition voice and to overlook the poverty, hunger and high unemployment rate our country is facing, plus a crippling economy the government refuse or ignored to fix, and celebrate one day on the back of the poor and working class citizens without a conscience and a whopping $300 million of the people's money.

The other patriots are the ones that says no to the government and protect the right of the poor and working class citizens and safe guard the taxpayers money from being squandered. It's your right to do either one as a patriot of Guyana. Think with your conscience.

FM
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Can you folks who are energized to celebrate the 50th tell us the accomplishments ever since being liberated from British rule?  Do people even realize that this is what is being celebrated? 

Liberation from British rule or any rule is an accomplishment unto itself.

I was a lad didn't know what Independence meant,i recalled the day the radios announcing the celebrations,it seems like every one in my neighborhood was very happy the older folks celebrating,myself and the other kids playing our past time games.

As i got older reflecting on that day i had the feeling the people were enlightened being free from the shackles of Colonialism,growing up in the Sugar Estates my mom worked in the fields from since the age of 17,i can recall seeing her smiling happy face,i heard the words "Massa Day Done" I know what it meant.Little did they know the local Massa's was soon to come.

Django
Django posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Can you folks who are energized to celebrate the 50th tell us the accomplishments ever since being liberated from British rule?  Do people even realize that this is what is being celebrated? 

Liberation from British rule or any rule is an accomplishment unto itself.

I was a lad didn't know what Independence meant,i recalled the day the radios announcing the celebrations,it seems like every one in my neighborhood was very happy the older folks celebrating,myself and the other kids playing our past time games.

As i got older reflecting on that day i had the feeling the people were enlightened being free from the shackles of Colonialism,growing up in the Sugar Estates my mom worked in the fields from since the age of 17,i can recall seeing her smiling happy face,i heard the words "Massa Day Done" I know what it meant.Little did they know the local Massa's was soon to come.

The contemplation here is should we ever have been freed from the shackles of Colonialism?  Did Guyana as an independent nation develop as it should have without the support of the British?  I want to believe that education and healthcare suffered under an independent Guyana.  Back in the day we had a certain breed of people like Lionel Luckhoo, LFSB, Ranji Chandisingh, Balram Singh Rai, JOF Haynes, Boysie Ramkarran, etc.  Can these new politicians walk in those guys shoes who were a product of the colonial system?  And yes I said LFSB to be fair.  As much as I disagree with his politics, he was an educated man.

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

The contemplation here is should we ever have been freed from the shackles of Colonialism?  Did Guyana as an independent nation develop as it should have without the support of the British?  I want to believe that education and healthcare suffered under an independent Guyana.  Back in the day we had a certain breed of people like Lionel Luckhoo, LFSB, Ranji Chandisingh, Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, etc.  Can these new politicians walk in those guys shoes who were a product of the colonial system?  And yes I said LFSB to be fair.  As much as I disagree with his politics, he was an educated man.

Since when does being freed of shackles of any nature require contemplation? How much do you think Guyana would have developed as a colony? Do you crave living in a logie on a sugar estate?

A
Cobra posted:

 

the poverty, hunger and high unemployment rate our country is facing, plus a crippling economy the government refuse or ignored to fix, and celebrate one day on the back of the poor and working class citizens without a conscience and a whopping $300 million of the people's money.

 

Thanks for acknowledging the failure of the PPP/C regime. The current situation that you describe above did not happen after May 11, 2015. It slowly deteriorated under the self serving PPP/C. 

The meagre $300 million will be money well spent to celebrate this historic National Achievement. You have to invest money to make money.

 

Mitwah
antabanta posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The contemplation here is should we ever have been freed from the shackles of Colonialism?  Did Guyana as an independent nation develop as it should have without the support of the British?  I want to believe that education and healthcare suffered under an independent Guyana.  Back in the day we had a certain breed of people like Lionel Luckhoo, LFSB, Ranji Chandisingh, Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, etc.  Can these new politicians walk in those guys shoes who were a product of the colonial system?  And yes I said LFSB to be fair.  As much as I disagree with his politics, he was an educated man.

Since when does being freed of shackles of any nature require contemplation? How much do you think Guyana would have developed as a colony? Do you crave living in a logie on a sugar estate?

There were no logies in 1966.  There were bright new parliament buildings, St. Georges Cathedral, Stabroek Market, St. Joseph's Mercy Hospital, Georgetown Hospital, new buildings for the Ministries along Brickdam, etc.  Bookers, Forgarty's, Sanbach Parker, JPSantos were a part of the fabric of peoples lives.  And they took a lot of pride in their country.

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
antabanta posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The contemplation here is should we ever have been freed from the shackles of Colonialism?  Did Guyana as an independent nation develop as it should have without the support of the British?  I want to believe that education and healthcare suffered under an independent Guyana.  Back in the day we had a certain breed of people like Lionel Luckhoo, LFSB, Ranji Chandisingh, Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, etc.  Can these new politicians walk in those guys shoes who were a product of the colonial system?  And yes I said LFSB to be fair.  As much as I disagree with his politics, he was an educated man.

Since when does being freed of shackles of any nature require contemplation? How much do you think Guyana would have developed as a colony? Do you crave living in a logie on a sugar estate?

There were no logies in 1966.  There were bright new parliament buildings, St. Georges Cathedral, Stabroek Market, St. Joseph's Mercy Hospital, Georgetown Hospital, new buildings for the Ministries along Brickdam, etc.  Bookers, Forgarty's, Sanbach Parker, JPSantos were a part of the fabric of peoples lives.  And they took a lot of pride in their country.

Why is that? Why were there no logies in 1966 and bright new buildings? What changed? Who took a lot of pride in their country? Do you mean Bookers took a lot of pride in Guyana?

A
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Tut.  Tut.  Grrrrr!!!!

In the 1970s as well as in the early 1980s, Burnham  was given critical support by Jagan to nationalize the sugar and bauxite industries as well as the Banks and other foreign companies.

The image of the capital city Georgetown once known as the Garden City,  changed to Garbage City under the watch of the PPP/C regime.

Who gave us the slogan  “One people, One nation, One destiny” ?

 

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:
antabanta posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The contemplation here is should we ever have been freed from the shackles of Colonialism?  Did Guyana as an independent nation develop as it should have without the support of the British?  I want to believe that education and healthcare suffered under an independent Guyana.  Back in the day we had a certain breed of people like Lionel Luckhoo, LFSB, Ranji Chandisingh, Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, etc.  Can these new politicians walk in those guys shoes who were a product of the colonial system?  And yes I said LFSB to be fair.  As much as I disagree with his politics, he was an educated man.

Since when does being freed of shackles of any nature require contemplation? How much do you think Guyana would have developed as a colony? Do you crave living in a logie on a sugar estate?

There were no logies in 1966.  There were bright new parliament buildings, St. Georges Cathedral, Stabroek Market, St. Joseph's Mercy Hospital, Georgetown Hospital, new buildings for the Ministries along Brickdam, etc.  Bookers, Forgarty's, Sanbach Parker, JPSantos were a part of the fabric of peoples lives.  And they took a lot of pride in their country.

Georgetown was beautiful enjoyed living there for a few years in the early 70's i window shopped in Water Street in the evenings,watched movies at all the cinemas no one bothered you,it was quite an experience for a country boy.

Django
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

There were no logies in 1966. 

South of the railway line in Leonora, there were logies in 1966. That section was called Rajpoorwah, and I had school friends who lived there.

Also, south of New Road Vreed-en-Hoop and Crane turn, there was a line of logies up to the mid-1970s. Anyone traveling by car or bus could have seen them.

Again, there were logies in Hope Estate when the PNC government acquired it from the Sankar family. Burnham provided individual houses to those coconut estate workers and demolished the logies. One longstanding Hope Estate resident recently wrote about this in Kaieteur News.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

There were no logies in 1966. 

South of the railway line in Leonora, there were logies in 1966. That section was called Rajpoorwah, and I had school friends who lived there.

Also, south of New Road Vreed-en-Hoop and Crane turn, there was a line of logies up to the mid-1970s. Anyone traveling by car or bus could have seen them.

Again, there were logies in Hope Estate when the PNC government acquired it from the Sankar family. Burnham provided individual houses to those coconut estate workers and demolished the logies. One longstanding Hope Estate resident recently wrote about this in Kaieteur News.

They should have kept these logies for historic preservation.  The young people in Guyana now don't know their history well.  And I don't see any historians recording the events of this century. 

Bibi Haniffa
Gilbakka posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

There were no logies in 1966. 

South of the railway line in Leonora, there were logies in 1966. That section was called Rajpoorwah, and I had school friends who lived there.

Also, south of New Road Vreed-en-Hoop and Crane turn, there was a line of logies up to the mid-1970s. Anyone traveling by car or bus could have seen them.

Again, there were logies in Hope Estate when the PNC government acquired it from the Sankar family. Burnham provided individual houses to those coconut estate workers and demolished the logies. One longstanding Hope Estate resident recently wrote about this in Kaieteur News.

Gill,I remembered the logies visiting Leonora,one was placed "as a rememberance" in Leonora compound  where the colonial manager lived,everytime i passed by there i wished i could live that high life with their nice houses sport courts,bar and pool,i would say to my self this son of a sugar plantation worker  will be rich one day to enjoy such a life,and so it happened.

I had a drink at the bar in that Compound a few years after the Colonials left,oh boy i felt elated.

Django
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I remember the logie at Leonora compound and some existed at Port Mourant '***** yard' in the 1970s.

If all goes well, stories and photographs of logies, as well as about 350 photos from the 1960s, will be punished soon.

Django, I had similar feelings about Albion compound that I passed daily to school. I visited a white boy in the 60s in the compound to exchange stamps,whom I recently met again in Britain,  but could not accompany him and his sister  to the swimming pool at that time, to even watch.

About 2005,   I accompany some Canadian citizens, swam in the pool for the first time and we even had a beer at the senior staff club, that is still done on account, with no cash.  The junior staff club had a similar system, that was deducted from our salary.    

University of British Columbia this weekend, is doing an art presentation on white privilege, including photos of logies at Albion. One theme is : 'White privilege begins where the pavement end' into the manager's compound. The muddy road continued to our school, where many students spent the day with muddy uniform, after they fall.

It was more cruel, when we saw a white manager broke the arm of little girl, on her way to school, who reached thru the chain link fence to pick a hibiscus flower. Her bone was broken as she struggled to  pull her arm out, while we ran away in fear.  If this had happened to me, I suspect my parents would have said, I had no right to pick the manager's flower. But our young daughter as a child, would assist us in the garden by pulling out veggy plants, instead of weeds, that reminds of the little girl's innocence.  

White privilege is a system of fear, control and intimidation.         

Tola
Cobra posted:

Folks, the PPP stand besides the working class and the poor and against wasteful spending. Say NO to $300 million dollars on a one night quickie. 

It's your patriotic duty to have a conscience for your people and country. 

Bhai, This Govt created the one night quickie that can cost 300 Million.  Brainless BASTARDS cant help themselves

Nehru

Tola,bhai experience in life is always in our memory,i say a little more about the drink at the bar.After i finished school i could have gotten a teaching gob,did not want that or any government gob.So i went to GT,stayed at one my cousin,worked at at my aunt wholesale grocery store,and other jobs.My cousin left GT so i went back home and worked in the Sugar Industry as a field worker,i kinda don't like bosses over my head,i became a GAWU representative for the casual gang,i was with the negotiating team to meet the manager for settling a price dispute.

Any way after a few years i quit Sugar Industry gob and with the guidance of a good friend,i studied Electronics a job i loved and was good at it,the same manager i met when i was the GAWU rep,sent his driver requesting me to fix his VCR he remembered me after a little chat,after finishing the gob and got paid,he said ok let go have a drink that is how i was able to sit at the same counter where the white masters sit,as i said i felt elated.

Django

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