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Originally Posted by TI:

D2, that's nonsense.

they traveled in the ships with heads covered. Check archives.

I would cover my head to hide if I were a woman then since the brits were always looking for a good lay

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

Correct.

 

D2 is an atheist and detests people who choose to follow the religion of their fore parents.

 

I have a deep sense of respect and admiration of women, especially muslim women who chooses to cover their heads. I see a lot of younger muslim women who cover their heads and they do so with pride and dignity.

 

Westerners try to create an impression that women who follow their religion are not "western" enough. This is nonsense.

 

Listen to a well cultured muslim woman speak as she displays confidence in the way she speaks and conducts herself.

 

It is all about free choice and those who resent or disrespect any woman who so chooses to follow here religion are acting out of ignorance.

What does atheism has to do with history? If the truth be told and you care to look carefully at your beliefs you will realize that Brahma is all so you are Brahma and it is a name for reality not god. In short, god is philosophy.

 

you are too much a calcified fool to examine the beauty of Hinduism from its Samkhya origins to its multiple expressions in at least a dozen different traditions some of which ie the Buddhist and the jains who do not speak of god but of the philosophy or path to knowing and being of the essence of the universe as they see it

 

This stupid concept of westerners is also a consequence of your ignorance. Islam is completely of the western tradition. While the religious community resist analysis of the origin of their theology it is clear from those who do it is not only borrowed frown the jews bit abstracted a hell of a lot from the christian and apocryphal christian tradition

 

Instead of opening you straight jacketed mind in ignorance I suggest you do as your tradition advises you and peal away they layers of ignorance with contemplation on its history and philosophy.

 

Hinduism sets zero barriers to woman or men. It does not have sin in the christian sense...you pile up bad karma and do so as long as you are stupid. If you are wise you accept god is everywhere and you are of it and so is every being about you so ( get it dummy) there is no differentiation.

 

All of those platitudes of appropriate behavior are in fact you karmic ankle weight. None of that bullshit matters.

 

Keep your atheism to yourself.

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

D2 need to be schooled in History.

I do not need to be schooled in you history which treats women as chattel. I need to be schooled in the history of a people at the bottom of t he barrel stripped bare of any pretenses to virtue but who knows it implicitly.

 

Now where in Hinduism is there a prescription for proper head covering or differentiation of the roles of sexes? Hinduism is one of the most open religion. It accepts all rejects none, have no taboos seeks no preference.

 

The corruption of the specialization by work into caste stratification by Brahmins is they modern curse it carries but it is not history. Check the Mahabharata, lots of important black skinned people.

FM
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Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

Correct.

 

D2 is an atheist and detests people who choose to follow the religion of their fore parents.

 

I have a deep sense of respect and admiration of women, especially muslim women who chooses to cover their heads. I see a lot of younger muslim women who cover their heads and they do so with pride and dignity.

 

Westerners try to create an impression that women who follow their religion are not "western" enough. This is nonsense.

 

Listen to a well cultured muslim woman speak as she displays confidence in the way she speaks and conducts herself.

 

It is all about free choice and those who resent or disrespect any woman who so chooses to follow here religion are acting out of ignorance.

What does atheism has to do with history? If the truth be told and you care to look carefully at your beliefs you will realize that Brahma is all so you are Brahma and it is a name for reality not god. In short, god is philosophy.

 

you are too much a calcified fool to examine the beauty of Hinduism from its Samkhya origins to its multiple expressions in at least a dozen different traditions some of which ie the Buddhist and the jains who do not speak of god but of the philosophy or path to knowing and being of the essence of the universe as they see it

 

This stupid concept of westerners is also a consequence of your ignorance. Islam is completely of the western tradition. While the religious community resist analysis of the origin of their theology it is clear from those who do it is not only borrowed frown the jews bit abstracted a hell of a lot from the christian and apocryphal christian tradition

 

Instead of opening you straight jacketed mind in ignorance I suggest you do as your tradition advises you and peal away they layers of ignorance with contemplation on its history and philosophy.

 

Hinduism sets zero barriers to woman or men. It does not have sin in the christian sense...you pile up bad karma and do so as long as you are stupid. If you are wise you accept god is everywhere and you are of it and so is every being about you so ( get it dummy) there is no differentiation.

 

All of those platitudes of appropriate behavior are in fact you karmic ankle weight. None of that bullshit matters.

 

Keep your atheism to yourself.

Sorry dummy, if you are a Hindu, your gods are an illusion!!!!

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

Indian women wore functional head wear to keep their hear from obstructing their work. None of that crap that anonymize women was ever enforced.

Are you now an authority on East Indian women?

I am an authority on many things when dummies making untenable claims are the target.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

Indian women wore functional head wear to keep their hear from obstructing their work. None of that crap that anonymize women was ever enforced.

Are you now an authority on East Indian women?

I am an authority on many things when dummies making untenable claims are the target.

Did you live in India?

FM
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

I'm aware that this is a sensitive topic so I shall be respectful to all concerned.

True, the old pics showed East Indian women with their heads covered.

Growing up in the 1950s and early 1960s, I saw Indian women wearing orhni and rumal on the streets, in shops and markets, hospitals and cinemas, etc.

However, by the mid-1960s the pressures of Western culture in movies, books, newspapers and the increasing availability of secondary education and jobs to Indian women resulted in them abandoning headgear and adopting American/English fashion.

My first wife was a Muslim. Courting her in 1972-73, I saw her wearing hot pants and mid-riff in her parents home with their full approval. I had Muslim girlfriends who dressed like white women with the latest fashion.

I started seeing Muslim women with their head covered the Arab way around 1976-1980. They stood out in the Guyanese crowd.

When I asked how this had come about I was told that the Saudis and Libyans who were funding the Muslim organizations were instilling in the women the need to return to acceptable forms of dress.

Since that time more and more Guyanese Muslim women have been appearing in public with the type of headgear Shalimar Hack wears.

For me, whatever a woman wears is her business. My current wife is also a Muslim and she prefers to dress the Western way.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by warrior:

great conversation from wise men now i can see the world in safe hands

I hope you excluded yourself from the phrase "wise men".

na i leave all the wisdom to you and yours 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

I'm aware that this is a sensitive topic so I shall be respectful to all concerned.

True, the old pics showed East Indian women with their heads covered.

Growing up in the 1950s and early 1960s, I saw Indian women wearing orhni and rumal on the streets, in shops and markets, hospitals and cinemas, etc.

However, by the mid-1960s the pressures of Western culture in movies, books, newspapers and the increasing availability of secondary education and jobs to Indian women resulted in them abandoning headgear and adopting American/English fashion.

My first wife was a Muslim. Courting her in 1972-73, I saw her wearing hot pants and mid-riff in her parents home with their full approval. I had Muslim girlfriends who dressed like white women with the latest fashion.

I started seeing Muslim women with their head covered the Arab way around 1976-1980. They stood out in the Guyanese crowd.

When I asked how this had come about I was told that the Saudis and Libyans who were funding the Muslim organizations were instilling in the women the need to return to acceptable forms of dress.

Since that time more and more Guyanese Muslim women have been appearing in public with the type of headgear Shalimar Hack wears.

For me, whatever a woman wears is her business. My current wife is also a Muslim and she prefers to dress the Western way.

There are no sensitive subjects. One must speak truth to lies. Indian women wore rumals as head cover to protect the hair and as clan designation. They never wore it to be anonymize. Not one picture of our women ever...I dare those who say the contrary....of woman looking like Ms Hack exists in our history. That is a Wahhabi import as does much of the present ritualization of Islam in the society.

 

I nave nothing against religion since I belong to the largest one, atheism. I do have problems with the selling of "habits" ( literally and figuratively) as providential decree. No wise god would want a servile woman.

 

No wise god would want any of his people  having complete dominion over another. I cannot see a god wanting women to be in the state they are in Saudi or Afghanistan or what is slowly creeping into our society as religious practice.

 

Be it of Islam, Christianity, Hinduism or the tao, the idea of anyone being other than a valued, relevant, necessary, whole and autonomous person in the society is bullshit.

FM
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Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

Correct.

 

D2 is an atheist and detests people who choose to follow the religion of their fore parents.

 

I have a deep sense of respect and admiration of women, especially muslim women who chooses to cover their heads. I see a lot of younger muslim women who cover their heads and they do so with pride and dignity.

 

Westerners try to create an impression that women who follow their religion are not "western" enough. This is nonsense.

 

Listen to a well cultured muslim woman speak as she displays confidence in the way she speaks and conducts herself.

 

It is all about free choice and those who resent or disrespect any woman who so chooses to follow their religion are acting out of ignorance.

This amply applies to our learned DPP.

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by warrior:

great conversation from wise men now i can see the world in safe hands

African women covered their heads as well.

African woman are not anonymized. It is often decorative, protective of the element and follow no prescriptive authority

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TI:

All the old pics of indentured laborers, show Indian women with heads covered.

Correct.

 

D2 is an atheist and detests people who choose to follow the religion of their fore parents.

 

I have a deep sense of respect and admiration of women, especially muslim women who chooses to cover their heads. I see a lot of younger muslim women who cover their heads and they do so with pride and dignity.

 

Westerners try to create an impression that women who follow their religion are not "western" enough. This is nonsense.

 

Listen to a well cultured muslim woman speak as she displays confidence in the way she speaks and conducts herself.

 

It is all about free choice and those who resent or disrespect any woman who so chooses to follow their religion are acting out of ignorance.

This amply applies to our learned DPP.

a load of patronizing bunk!

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by warrior:

great conversation from wise men now i can see the world in safe hands

African women covered their heads as well.

African woman are not anonymized. It is often decorative, protective of the element and follow no prescriptive authority

 Upon hearing such profound nonsense the  millions of African women who proudly wear their head scarves and and who share husbands will put a good licking on your backside.

 

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by warrior:

great conversation from wise men now i can see the world in safe hands

African women covered their heads as well.

African woman are not anonymized. It is often decorative, protective of the element and follow no prescriptive authority

 Upon hearing such profound nonsense the  millions of African women who proudly wear their head scarves and and who share husbands will put a good licking on your backside.

 

Are for saying they will want to beat me up because I said  they wear headdresses with no inclination they must be anonymized? ... Or do you mean to imply they will beat me because I said they do not have to wear it per some religious prescription? I do not doubt Muslims would want to assault me for such "heresy"!

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

Pointblank
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is poison for Atheists.

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is poison for Atheists.

Why would it be poison for atheists? Atheists do not follow the Bible, the Koran or any other religious books.

Mars
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is poison for Atheists.

Why would it be poison for atheists? Atheists do not follow the Bible, the Koran or any other religious books.

That's why it's poison, if not make good use of it.

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is poison for Atheists.

Why would it be poison for atheists? Atheists do not follow the Bible, the Koran or any other religious books.

That's why it's poison, if not make good use of it.

More like garbage.

Mars

They never wore it to be anonymize.???

 

 

i see the DPP face. Everybody knows her. Where's the anonymity? 

 

Everybody knows Mother Theresa, where's the anonymity?

 

why don't people ask the women, instead of coming up with ludicrous  speculation?  They follow the Salafi faith and choose to dress so. Nobody forces anybody to dress in Guyana.  The nuns in Guyana were also covered.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by JoKer:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Garbage do not kill but the truth in the Holy Bible can make you atheist commit suicide.

 

aren't you too old to believe in talking snakes?

Call me Uncle!!

Chief
Originally Posted by TI:

They never wore it to be anonymize.???

 

 

i see the DPP face. Everybody knows her. Where's the anonymity? 

 

Everybody knows Mother Theresa, where's the anonymity?

 

why don't people ask the women, instead of coming up with ludicrous  speculation?  They follow the Salafi faith and choose to dress so. Nobody forces anybody to dress in Guyana.  The nuns in Guyana were also covered.

 

 

Direct your question to D2.

Chief
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is straight up misinformation. As I mentioned above, the only requirement in the bible is that women cover while at prayer. The allusion to shaved head is to the shame of not doing so not that someone will shave it.

 

You folks are of a habit of stretching the truth. The koran also does not have any prescription to wear a burka. 

FM
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Originally Posted by Chief:

Garbage do not kill but the truth in the Holy Bible can make you atheist commit suicide.

You think atheists have time to worry with you religious nutjobs and your old books. You're more likely to strap it on and blow up yourselves because of your religious doctrine. 

Mars
Originally Posted by ball:

All this about clothing and head coverings as required by god and religous edicts and yet to this day all new born and those before were naked

You are the man!!!

So God should have made us with clothes?

Chief
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Garbage do not kill but the truth in the Holy Bible can make you atheist commit suicide.

You think atheists have time to worry with you religious nutjobs and your old books. You're more likely to strap it on and blow up yourselves because of your religious doctrine. 

Is D2  AND Mars the same person?

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is poison for Atheists.

A dogmatic response. The bible says many things some good many horrible so I have no fear of ever being outside of its good parts. I definitely am not going to put my female family member outside the house in isolation in any prescribe cleansing nor do I want to stone anyone. You religious nuts can secure a place in heaven by  stoning others. That is of course not if I am still standing and not yet gone through with my pile of rocks. With my trusty aim I will always target your respective heads to prevent such horrible acts.

FM
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Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Garbage do not kill but the truth in the Holy Bible can make you atheist commit suicide.

You think atheists have time to worry with you religious nutjobs and your old books. You're more likely to strap it on and blow up yourselves because of your religious doctrine. 

Is D2  AND Mars the same person?

Yu didn't know?

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Chief:

D2,

 

Why Mary covered her head?

iSN'T SHE THE MOTHER OF gOD?

Mary did not wear a burka...as history has given us, the people of the area covered their head against the elements. The bible has no directive to burkaize or even to cover the head  ( except while praying). Head cover for a woman is her to keep their natural hair. You sell a false doctrine if  you use the icons of the catholic church as evidence of head cover. I bet Mary had long flowing hair down her ass.

Read the bible the women are ordered to cover their heads or have it shaven off

That is poison for Atheists.

A dogmatic response. The bible says many things some good many horrible so I have no fear of ever being outside of its good parts. I definitely am not going to put my female family member outside the house in isolation in any prescribe cleansing nor do I want to stone anyone. You religious nuts can secure a place in heaven by  stoning others. That is of course not if I am still standing and not yet gone through with my pile of rocks. With my trusty aim I will always target your respective heads to prevent such horrible acts.

So you have some muslim blood in your veins.

Chief
Originally Posted by TI:

They never wore it to be anonymize.???

 

 

i see the DPP face. Everybody knows her. Where's the anonymity? 

 

Everybody knows Mother Theresa, where's the anonymity?

 

why don't people ask the women, instead of coming up with ludicrous  speculation?  They follow the Salafi faith and choose to dress so. Nobody forces anybody to dress in Guyana.  The nuns in Guyana were also covered.

 

 

 Dude, I am speaking of the nut cases who cover their heads "as prescribed by the holy book". One recently refused to uncover her head while giving witness. Also, the DPP is not in any cultural mode that is of our ancestral legacy. She is of the new whabbi tradition. 

 

Nuns take the habit as a cloistered set. Christian women are not required to dress like nuns.

FM

Atheists in Denmark ban halaal and kosher meat.

 

~~~The Conference of European Rabbis intends to discuss the problem of “continuous attacks against religious minorities in Europe,” during a meeting with European Commission President José Manuel Barroso on Monday, CER head Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt told JPost on Thursday.~~~

 

FM

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