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And here is the current status of the PNC Campaign:
Granger is real DickTator. He left for Cuba to receive cancerous medical treatment and his campaign grinds to halt.
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One big rass meeting. PPP pon tap.
PNC, AFC, ANUG, haul ayuh arse!
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Same crowd from different angles = one big rass meeting. Coolie way of saying abee done win.
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@Former Member. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
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Prince posted:Same crowd from different angles = one big rass meeting.
As reported by Princess who is personally in the crowd. 
Picture tells a thousands words , for some it's good ,for others these two will never get the throne.
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Mark Phillips look like Lord Rama just exit Bhanbas. Lol
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Django posted:
Picture tells a thousands words , for some it's good ,for others these two will never get the throne.
What stop you from throwing your hat in?
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PPPC For A BETTER GUYANA .
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Dave posted:
O me Mumma. Look at these massive PPP crowds !!!
PNC cork duck and cat eat dem dinner !
PPP PPP PPP PPP
A look at PNC campaign:
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Prince posted:Same crowd from different angles = one big rass meeting. Coolie way of saying abee done win.
Prince, after you finish watching the Essequibo Rally, click on the link below to see the massive crowd at Patentia.
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It was just announced that PPP meeting had the largest crowd ever gathered at a political rally in Essequibo !!!!
Nothing is stopping the PPP Tidal wave.
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PICTURES FROM ESSEQUIBO.
DR FRANK ANTHONY.
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THIS CROWD DEMONSTRATE THE SUPPORT PPPC HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
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The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
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Dave, if crowd wins elections then the PPP already won according to Sean. I have seen PPP massive crown each election cycle while they lost. I am not excited about the crowd, it's about how many go out to vote.
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kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
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PNC campaign status:
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VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Are you blind plenty Douglass
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VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Is APNU+AFC drawing diverse crowds?
Gilbakka posted:VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Is APNU+AFC drawing diverse crowds?
The question implies the PPP is not attracting a diverse crowd.
Sure dem is big crowds, wondering if ppl are transported to make up the numbers. Ancient warriors used to do things to make their camps appears to be huge, sometimes they win the battles. The PPP have to consider at the end the ppl that really votes.
Gilbakka posted:VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Is APNU+AFC drawing diverse crowds?
Not from what I can see...PNC crowd is no different from the PPP crowd.
However, the PPP is the party that is claiming that they represent all Guyanese...taking a pix here and there with non-Indos is no proof that the PPP is as diverse as some people claim here...at least Afros do not see it that way.
kp posted:VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Are you blind plenty Douglass
Banna...most douglas voting for coalition...they dont feel comfortable under the PPP.
I was on the Essequibo Coadt to attend the funeral of Munilall. After the funeral, I took the opportunity to attend the rally to hear what fhey were planning.
There was diversity in the crowd. Sone Afro-Guyanese, many Amerindians from Capoey, Mainstay, Tapacuma and the Pomeroon, lots of young people. Because it was a rally, it drew supporters from other parts of the coast. As far as I understand local party groups hired trucks to bring supporters from their areas. In addition to rallies the zpPzp has been holding bottom house meetings and public meetings at the community level.
When i spoke to people there at the rally, their main concern was whether the election will be fair and free.
For those who try to point to the absence of some of the former contenders for the PPP candidate, Frank Anthony was there and made a passionate speech. From the news report, Vindhya Persaud and Anil Nandlall have been at the Berbice and Kitty rallies respectively and supported the election of a ppp government headed by Irfaan.
VishMahabir posted:Gilbakka posted:VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Is APNU+AFC drawing diverse crowds?
Not from what I can see...PNC crowd is no different from the PPP crowd.
However, the PPP is the party that is claiming that they represent all Guyanese...taking a pix here and there with non-Indos is no proof that the PPP is as diverse as some people claim here...at least Afros do not see it that way.
Hey, Essequibo is a PPP stronghold and there are a few villages that are APNU strongholds. I think that any political party that hopes to win will have to reach out to all parts of Guyana. You will not see massive former APNU supporters there but there were some. All any political party can do is make a genuine appeal, for support and at the end, after the elections, govern for all Guyanese. My opinion is that the present clique has not done that. The ppp will not or cannoat tell people what to think because it as the leaders say, believe in democracy and inclusion
Zed posted:I was on the Essequibo Coadt to attend the funeral of Munilall. After the funeral, I took the opportunity to attend the rally to hear what fhey were planning.
There was diversity in the crowd. Sone Afro-Guyanese, many Amerindians from Capoey, Mainstay, Tapacuma and the Pomeroon, lots of young people. Because it was a rally, it drew supporters from other parts of the coast. As far as I understand local party groups hired trucks to bring supporters from their areas. In addition to rallies the zpPzp has been holding bottom house meetings and public meetings at the community level.
When i spoke to people there at the rally, their main concern was whether the election will be fair and free.
For those who try to point to the absence of some of the former contenders for the PPP candidate, Frank Anthony was there and made a passionate speech. From the news report, Vindhya Persaud and Anil Nandlall have been at the Berbice and Kitty rallies respectively and supported the election of a ppp government headed by Irfaan.
Its true that crowds are not everything...March 2 is what matters and it is going to depend on which party is able to bring out the crowd to the voting booth. Crowds attending a rally does not mean much when we know there are several factors that dictate why they are attending rallies (its election, people are curious, people are bussed in, people coming for the food, others coming for the music, etc).
It is true that the PPP is pulling crowds that are large. However, so is the coalition. Crowds are larger this election because the population of Guyanese have increased, and there are more voters, as per GECOM. And there are more young people. People are mobilized because this is an intense election. Both major parties are spending a lot of money, with lots of it coming from abroad too.
Neither party can claim a diversity crowd. However, the PPP is in a bind, much more thanb the coalition, because it is the PPP that is not a coalition and the PPP continues to peddle the lie that it is a party that has and represent a diversity of Guyanese. Rohee already put a few spokes in that wheel by saying that the PPP is a "coolie" party.
The PPP and PNC are both hoping that the supporters of the other side will stay home and that they have mobilized their base to capture a winning number to form the government.
The recent changes with the small parties may change the results: One of the two parties will capture executive power, but if the small parties capture a few seats they can deny the winning party control of the legislative branch.
Zed posted:VishMahabir posted:Gilbakka posted:VishMahabir posted:Dave posted:kp posted:The whole Guyana turn out , even Moses was there in hiding and Granger run to Cuba , sorry to say Rumjaat still drunk.
The diversity of the crowd shows PPPC support is not only Indians, like that fella saying.
OK...I give you that...big crowd...but its mostly Indos, it is not a diverse crowd.
Is APNU+AFC drawing diverse crowds?
Not from what I can see...PNC crowd is no different from the PPP crowd.
However, the PPP is the party that is claiming that they represent all Guyanese...taking a pix here and there with non-Indos is no proof that the PPP is as diverse as some people claim here...at least Afros do not see it that way.
Hey, Essequibo is a PPP stronghold and there are a few villages that are APNU strongholds. I think that any political party that hopes to win will have to reach out to all parts of Guyana. You will not see massive former APNU supporters there but there were some. All any political party can do is make a genuine appeal, for support and at the end, after the elections, govern for all Guyanese. My opinion is that the present clique has not done that. The ppp will not or cannoat tell people what to think because it as the leaders say, believe in democracy and inclusion
Berbice and Essequibo is not enough to give the PPP a win...they have to do well in Demerara.
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VishMahabir posted:Neither party can claim a diversity crowd. However, the PPP is in a bind, much more thanb the coalition, because it is the PPP that is not a coalition and the PPP continues to peddle the lie that it is a party that has and represent a diversity of Guyanese.
PPPC is a coalition of two political parties ...
People's Progressive Party and Civic.
Civic joined with the PPP for the elections in 1992.
History of Civic group are on related political articles for Guyana.
Demerara_Guy posted:VishMahabir posted:Neither party can claim a diversity crowd. However, the PPP is in a bind, much more thanb the coalition, because it is the PPP that is not a coalition and the PPP continues to peddle the lie that it is a party that has and represent a diversity of Guyanese.
PPPC is a coalition of two political parties ...
People's Progressive Party and Civic.
Civic joined with the PPP for the elections in 1992.
History of Civic group are on related political articles for Guyana.
Knucklehead...for a historian, you missed this one by a mile.
According to my uncle, who was very much involved in the politics of the time, "Civic" in NOT and was not a political party, as much as "Reform" was a part of the PNC. It was Jagan's attempt to include civil society and to show that the PPP was a more inclusive party, following a time when a civic group, GUARD had appeared on the scene and eventually broke up before the 1992 election. Sam Hinds was a member of GUARD.
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VishMahabir posted:Demerara_Guy posted:VishMahabir posted:Neither party can claim a diversity crowd. However, the PPP is in a bind, much more thanb the coalition, because it is the PPP that is not a coalition and the PPP continues to peddle the lie that it is a party that has and represent a diversity of Guyanese.
PPPC is a coalition of two political parties ...
People's Progressive Party and Civic.
Civic joined with the PPP for the elections in 1992.
History of Civic group are on related political articles for Guyana.
Knucklehead...for a historian, you missed this one by a mile.
According to my uncle, who was very much involved in the politics of the time, "Civic" in NOT and was not a political party, as much as "Reform" was a part of the PNC. It was Jagan's attempt to include civil society and to show that the PPP was a more inclusive party, following a time when a civic group, GUARD had appeared on the scene and eventually broke up before the 1992 election. Sam Hinds was a member of GUARD.
You uncle is a fool ... itâs our âMarxist-Leninist - puntinque â analogy ... now go to bed, itâs Saturday nite.. me and your aunt going to ÐīÐ―ÐĩÐēÐ―ÐūÐđ
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Donald Trump was pulling very large crowds when he took on Hillary but the media was still portraying Hillary as the winner. WE all know how that ended up. Vis is like one of those Hillary supporters.
PPP has the numbers for a majority. APNU has no momentum and their spurt base did not turn our for LGE and will repeat the same for National Elections.
There are two die hard PNC supporters at GNI and they are blinded by there love for the PNC that they cannot see the PPP Tilda wave which will wipe out the PNC for good.
This is what the PNC campaign looks like right now:
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Viva APNU!
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VishMahabir posted:Gilbakka posted:Is APNU+AFC drawing diverse crowds?
Not from what I can see...PNC crowd is no different from the PPP crowd.
However, the PPP is the party that is claiming that they represent all Guyanese...taking a pix here and there with non-Indos is no proof that the PPP is as diverse as some people claim here...at least Afros do not see it that way.
Yes, the PPP/C is REPRESENTING all Guyana. But there's a saying: you can take a horse to the water but you cannot force the horse to drink the water. The PPP/C cannot force anyone to attend its political meetings. It can certainly encourage Afros to rally with the party and is in fact doing just that, campaigning and distributing its manifesto in hostile Afro-dominated communities. All are welcome in the PPP/C.
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APNU- AFC Importing Jamaica Artists To Draw Crowds At Their Rallies.
This was in Linden last nite.
Jamaican Artiste Jahmiel
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Some of the PNC/KFC supporters are on suicide watch. You guys take it easy on them.
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PPP base motivate foh true. Dem gat de advantage. Only de moss incompetent politician and visionless leader like Granger, Moses, Khemraj, Rapheal and dem doh coulda bring back Jagdoe. Dem peopkle dat extend Jagdoe life pon wan platinum and gold platter...hey hey hey. Me maintain Jagdoe is low hangin sapodilla...and genip...and buxton spice. But dat is not Labba battle...me gat me cane juice staan foh look after...hey hey hey.
Dave posted:APNU- AFC Importing Jamaica Artists To Draw Crowds At Their Rallies.
This was in Linden last nite.
Jamaican Artiste Jahmiel
Then in this case, the PPP ought to do the same. Time to call in Kumar Sanu or wan a dem
And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
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Nehru posted:And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
Nehru posted:And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
So what's wrong with that? As I see it, its a clever political ploy. If it work for one then it should work for the other. Is nah wan daag name pampey
Some Al Yuh Guyanese will forever live in darkness and under the spell of PNC incompetence, racism, ignorance and criminality!!!
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Hiring singers singing vulgarity ainât going to help the PNC. Dem cork duck. Their base is not motivated.
Sean, and they using Taxpayers money to do so! Bloody THIEVES!!!
skeldon_man posted:Nehru posted:And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
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Let dem bais post APNU crowds in Essequibo na ? How about the Linden crowd ?
PNC is a race based party. No diversity.
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Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Nehru posted:And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
In 1964 they teamed up with UF. In 2015 they teamed up with AFC. We are discussing the PNC winning a free and fair election gaining a majority.
skeldon_man posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Nehru posted:And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
In 1964 they teamed up with UF. In 2015 they teamed up with AFC.
We are discussing the PNC winning a free and fair election gaining a majority.
So the PNC later morphed in to PNCR are not part of the winning team ?
Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
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In 2001, the party had re-branded itself the PNCR, attaching a Reform component to the original title of the party in an attempt to change the image of the party and to append, as the PPP had done in 1992, a civic component to the party.
In 2006, the party entered the elections as the PNCR- One Guyana (PNCR-1G). But most people did not take that coalition seriously, knowing that the other partners in the grouping were marginal and that the real power remained with the PNCR.
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Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Nehru posted:And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!
It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
In 1964 they teamed up with UF. In 2015 they teamed up with AFC.
We are discussing the PNC winning a free and fair election gaining a majority.
So the PNC later morphed in to PNCR a part of the winning team ?
Bai, even the R did not help them win. They had to team up with like 8-9 2 by 2 parties to barely win and, who knows if they did. Gayboy Cheeseburger Gary Hunt did not allow PNC stooge...paid Surujballi to order a recount, even though one was requested for one region.
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Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
The Limey PIGS stole the Election from Jagan!!
Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
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Gilbakka posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
Than you Gilly. Poverty prevented us to buy a newspaper or have a radio during those days. We were ignorant of the political doings during that period. We heard a little bit here and there from civics in school.
Dave posted:In 2001, the party had re-branded itself the PNCR, attaching a Reform component to the original title of the party in an attempt to change the image of the party and to append, as the PPP had done in 1992, a civic component to the party.
In 2006, the party entered the elections as the PNCR- One Guyana (PNCR-1G). But most people did not take that coalition seriously, knowing that the other partners in the grouping were marginal and that the real power remained with the PNCR.
The 2006 elections had the lowest turnout of voters ,since 1992.
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Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
Demographic changes affect all races in Guyana. I do not see the blacks supporting any coolie for office(check the AFC with Ramjattan being president someday in the PNC). I saw on FB where they ask Granger to use the military to stay in office. You never heard that from a coolie.
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Gilbakka posted:1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
excuse me
how exactly was the 1964 elections "not fair"?
Guyana has not had a first-past-the-post election since . . . does that make all those elections the PPP won since 1992 "not fair"?
the other 'reasons' you cited have NOTHING to do with "elections" proper
words have meaning banna. . . cut the Stalinist propaganda and NONSENSE!
yesss . . . i know old habits die hard
smfh
Gilbakka posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
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Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone. In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them. The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
skeldon_man posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
Demographic changes affect all races in Guyana.
I do not see the blacks supporting any coolie for office(check the AFC with Ramjattan being president someday in the PNC).
I saw on FB where they ask Granger to use the military to stay in office. You never heard that from a coolie.
The Indo Guyanese are more affected percentage wise, than the other races.
Who knows that may change .
Regarding some FB post ,i don't take most of the post seriously ,both sides can be very nasty.
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Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
Demographic changes affect all races in Guyana. I do not see the blacks supporting any coolie for office(check the AFC with Ramjattan being president someday in the PNC). I saw on FB where they ask Granger to use the military to stay in office. You never heard that from a coolie.
The Indo Guyanese are more affected percentage wise, than the other races.
So you're telling me that the Amerindians fully support the PNC? I do not see the Amerindians having demographic changes. I see lots of blacks migrating out of Guyana. There were some blacks in the Skeldon area whose entire families left for the USA. Bai rain nah fall ah wan man door.
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Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
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Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world.
Thanks, Gilly!!! Even though I live in America, I always say that America has its faults. They preach democracy. When democracy prevails and they don't like the result, they resort to covert activities for regime change.
Gilly, teaching the DUNCES!!!
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Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django postedWhat happened in 19
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
Banna, get with it, allâs fair on love and war.
Cheddie preached his Marxist doctrine and the West reacted out of their own interest.
Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone.
In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.
The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.
You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.
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skeldon_man posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world.
Thanks, Gilly!!! Even though I live in America, I always say that America has its faults. They preach democracy. When democracy prevails and they don't like the result, they resort to covert activities for regime change.
Shut ayuh pokes. After the Cuban missile crisis, why would they want another outpost?
Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
Bhai , you are aware ,it was the influence of Communism in the Capitalist backyard. On to today supporters of the PPP ,can't comprehend "Marxist Ideology"
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Baseman posted:skeldon_man posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world.
Thanks, Gilly!!! Even though I live in America, I always say that America has its faults. They preach democracy. When democracy prevails and they don't like the result, they resort to covert activities for regime change.
Shut ayuh pokes. After the Cuban missile crisis, why would they want another outpost?
What happened to democracy bai? That's what I just said. They want democracy and when democracy hits them in the face, they start to sing a different tune.
They don't want Iran to be a theocracy. However, they want America to be run by Christians only. Hypocrisy always shows itself when it is the other party.
Nehru posted:Some Al Yuh Guyanese will forever live in darkness and under the spell of PNC incompetence, racism, ignorance and criminality!!!
Pissing into the wind again. What is the sense or message in this post.
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Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?
What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?
1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.
Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.
Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
History proven the reason that was done ,the US persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.
Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
Bhai , you are aware ,it was the influence of Communism in the Capitalist backyard. On to today supporters of the PPP ,can't comprehend "Marxist Ideology"
Django why is Granger seeking medical help in a Marxist Ideology Country.
Ayo, especially you, canât condemn this Marxist model and then have Ayo leader seeking help.
Yo see what I does say about this TWO face ting .
I am with you here Skelly. Latin America is poor today because of American policies, the ME is a waste Land because of American policies, Vietnam, Philippine, parts of Africa are all in terrible shape because of american Foreign policies!
ronan posted:Gilbakka posted:1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
excuse me
how exactly was the 1964 elections "not fair"?
Guyana has not had a first-past-the-post election since . . . does that make all those elections the PPP won since 1992 "not fair"?
the other 'reasons' you cited have NOTHING to do with "elections" proper
words have meaning banna. . . cut the Stalinist propaganda and NONSENSE!
yesss . . . i know old habits die hard
smfh
Oh rass... Ro, is u bai? Good to see u on board man.
Sheik101 posted:Nehru posted:Some Al Yuh Guyanese will forever live in darkness and under the spell of PNC incompetence, racism, ignorance and criminality!!!
Pissing into the wind again. What is the sense or message in this post.
The post was to TRY and help you unchain yourself from ignorance and incompetence
But yuh ears and head hard
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Sheik101 posted:ronan posted:Gilbakka posted:1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.
excuse me
how exactly was the 1964 elections "not fair"?
Guyana has not had a first-past-the-post election since . . . does that make all those elections the PPP won since 1992 "not fair"?
the other 'reasons' you cited have NOTHING to do with "elections" proper
words have meaning banna. . . cut the Stalinist propaganda and NONSENSE!
yesss . . . i know old habits die hard
smfh
Oh rass... Ro, is u bai? Good to see u on board man.
ah deh
Nehru posted:Sheik101 posted:Nehru posted:Some Al Yuh Guyanese will forever live in darkness and under the spell of PNC incompetence, racism, ignorance and criminality!!!
Pissing into the wind again. What is the sense or message in this post.
The post was to TRY and help you unchain yourself from ignorance and incompetence
Yuh talking bout yuhself. No worries, i gat de cure when yuh ready to free yuhself.
Dave posted:Django why is Granger seeking medical help in a Marxist Ideology Country.Ayo, especially you, canât condemn this Marxist model and then have Ayo leader seeking help. Yo see what I does say about this TWO face ting .
How much points, scored with the post ?
The reasons can be explained , will not make a difference.
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Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
Bhai , you are aware ,it was the influence of Communism in the Capitalist backyard. On to today supporters of the PPP ,can't comprehend "Marxist Ideology"
Where in the current and post-1991 PPP/C manifestos do you see any reference to Marxist ideology? Jagdeo, Irfaan, Mark Phillips, Nandlall etc aren't Marxists.
Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
Bhai , you are aware ,it was the influence of Communism in the Capitalist backyard. On to today supporters of the PPP ,can't comprehend "Marxist Ideology"
Where in the current and post-1991 PPP/C manifestos do you see any reference to Marxist ideology? Jagdeo, Irfaan, Mark Phillips, Nandlall etc aren't Marxists.
Is that so ? how about the party constitution ?
Communist, Marxist Bullshit died many moos ago. Grabbing at straws by drowning FOOLS is what it is all about!!!!!
Socialism ROCKS!! Ask Bernie
Nehru posted:Communist, Marxist Bullshit died many moos ago. Grabbing at straws by drowning FOOLS is what it is all about!!!!!
Please explain , if it's dead why will a political party Constitution based on Marxist principles.
FOOLS , will like to know.
It was written a very long time ago. Maybe they too lazy to update it. Even Russia is not considered Communist any longer!!!
Nehru posted:It was written a very long time ago. Maybe they too lazy to update it. Even Russia is not considered Communist any longer!!!
Perhaps the thoughts are it will rise again .It's practiced ,look at Putinisque.
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Nehru posted:Sean, and they using Taxpayers money to do so! Bloody THIEVES!!!
Yes, dem use three Billion to sport, fete and wine down. Dem can't save for a rain day !
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Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone.
In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.
The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.
You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.
So what percentage of Indians vote for AFC in 2015.
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Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone.
In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.
The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.
You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.
According to Bisram, 75/80% Indos vote PPP while 95% Afros vote PNC. The PPP has Amerindian and others on their side, +5% Afros.
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Dave posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing
In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.
The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.
You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.
So what percentage of Indians vote for AFC in 2015.
Estimates 5%
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Baseman posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?
The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.
addition to my prior post.
I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone.
In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.
The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.
You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.
According to Bisram, 75/80% Indos vote PPP while 95% Afros vote PNC. The PPP has Amerindian and others on their side, +5% Afros.
This proves that PNC is still a race based party.
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Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.
Bhai , you are aware ,it was the influence of Communism in the Capitalist backyard. On to today supporters of the PPP ,can't comprehend "Marxist Ideology"
Where in the current and post-1991 PPP/C manifestos do you see any reference to Marxist ideology? Jagdeo, Irfaan, Mark Phillips, Nandlall etc aren't Marxists.
Is that so ? how about the party constitution ?
The PPP Constitution is a relic like the Guyana Constitution. Both in need of reform. Even so, in its present form I am not bothered because the overwhelming majority of current PPP members don't read it. They're more focused on the Party's actions that are as far away from Marxism as Guyana is far away from the red planet Mars.
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Baseman posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Gilbakka posted:Django posted:Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing
In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.
What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.
The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.
Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.
You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.
So what percentage of Indians vote for AFC in 2015.
Estimates 5%
Base lets give them 10% -
According to GECOM, AFC win 28,000 votes on 2011. that is 2,800 afro votes.
Explain for me Django if 25,200 votes are Indians and in 2015 election, PPPC lost by a mere 4700, how is your analysis holding that PPPC only has a Indo support.
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DJ eyes is covered with PNC Boo Boo.
PNC is the race based party yet he tries to rub PNC shyte on PPP.
Dave posted:According to GECOM, AFC win 28,000 votes on 2011. that is 2,800 afro votes.
Explain for me Django if 25,200 votes are Indians and in 2015 election, PPPC lost by a mere 4700, how is your analysis holding that PPPC only has a Indo support.
Why don't you go to GECOM Website ,there are the results of the 2015 Elections for each polling station across all Regions ,you know Guyana in and out ,from doing that you can get an idea of the votes.
Everything folks have to teach you ? don't come with any crap ,have better things to do.
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Django posted:Dave posted:According to GECOM, AFC win 28,000 votes on 2011. that is 2,800 afro votes.
Explain for me Django if 25,200 votes are Indians and in 2015 election, PPPC lost by a mere 4700, how is your analysis holding that PPPC only has a Indo support.
Why don't you go to GECOM Website ,there are the results of the 2015 Elections for each polling station across all Regions ,you know Guyana in and out ,from doing that you can get an idea of the votes.
Everything folks have to teach you ? don't come with any crap ,have better things to do.
Why the attitude Mr Sensitive Moderator... i just throw out some numbers to you because you are the one who keeps dispel PPPC is not a diverse party.
BTW, I live in reality.... take it easy brother.
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Dave, go easy. E might start crying cause PNC has been exposed.
Dave posted:Django posted:Dave posted:According to GECOM, AFC win 28,000 votes on 2011. that is 2,800 afro votes.
Explain for me Django if 25,200 votes are Indians and in 2015 election, PPPC lost by a mere 4700, how is your analysis holding that PPPC only has a Indo support.
Why don't you go to GECOM Website ,there are the results of the 2015 Elections for each polling station across all Regions ,you know Guyana in and out ,from doing that you can get an idea of the votes.
Everything folks have to teach you ? don't come with any crap ,have better things to do.
Why the attitude Mr Sensitive Moderator... i just throw out some numbers to you because you are the one who keeps dispel PPPC is not a diverse party.
BTW, I live in reality.... take it easy brother.
Why do you throw stuff to Django ? time does be spent to find and analyze information before making statements . I don't depend on newspaper articles and talking heads. Dispute my statements.
Personally there is no attitude , you don't have to stitch in the Mr. xxx to bolster you post , i made a fair rebuttal to the post.
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