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Two teen parents killed, four  people injured as boozed-up driver crashes in Queens while going 120 mph, law  enforcement sources say

Three teens were  ejected from the backseat as driver Madosh Hansraj lost control of the packed  1996 Honda Civic and slammed into a guardrail.

Published: Saturday, June 29, 2013, 11:00 AM
Updated: Saturday, June 29, 2013, 5:31 PM

 

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Danny Iudici

The boozed-up driver was going 120 mph when the crash occured. Two teen  parents were killed in the early Saturday morning accident.

 

Two teen parents were killed and four people were injured after a boozy  driver racing down a Queens thoroughfare at 120-mph crashed early Saturday, law  enforcement sources said.

Madosh Hansraj, 20, was speeding down the Grand Central Parkway when he lost  control in Jamaica Estates and slammed into a guardrail shortly before 4 a.m.,  the sources said.

Three teens β€” Meera Dukharan, 17; Anil Persaud, 18; and a 17-year-old boy β€”  were ejected from the backseat of the packed car, cops said.

The accident occurred on the eastbound side of the Grand Central Parkway.

Danny Iudici

The accident occurred on the  eastbound side of the Grand Central Parkway.

Dukharan landed near the dividing wall. Persaud vaulted over and hit the  ground on the shoulder of the westbound lanes, cops and witnesses said.

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A 19-year-old driver said he came upon the grisly wreck after hitting a tire  from the mangled 1996 Honda Civic.

Anil Persaud,18 [right), with his brother Avinash Persaud, 20. Anil Persaud died in the accident.

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Anil Persaud,18 (right), with his  brother Avinash Persaud, 20. Anil Persaud died in the accident.

β€œThat’s what was so disturbing,” the driver said of seeing a passenger’s  remains. β€œIt was pure shock.”

Dukharan and Persaud β€” a couple who had a 1-year-old daughter, Meya Persaud β€”  died before medics arrived at the scene near 188th St.

β€œI can’t believe she’s gone,” Dukharan’s sister, Orvina, told the Daily News.  β€œI just want it to be a dream.”

Nalini Persaud, 32, reacts to the death of her 18-year-old brother Anil.

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Nalini Persaud, 32, reacts to the  death of her 18-year-old brother Anil.

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Persaud’s sister, Nalini, said her younger sibling recently dropped out of  high school for an auto-body job to support his daughter, Meya.

β€œHe loved her very much,” said Nalini Persaud, 32. β€œHe loved his family ...  He took care of his family.”

The mother and grandmother of Meera Dukharan,17, grieve for Meera, who died in the crash.

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The mother and grandmother of Meera  Dukharan,17, grieve for Meera, who died in the crash.

The 17-year-old who was found outside the crumpled car was rushed to New  York Hospital Queens in serious condition.

A 21-year-old man who was also in the backseat and a 19-year-old man were  taken to the same hospital with minor injuries.

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Authorities at the scene of the accident.

Danny Iudici

Authorities at the scene of the  accident.

Hansraj, of Queens Village, had minor injuries β€” but was treated at the  scene and taken to the 107th Precinct. He was later booked on a litany of  charges that included manslaughter, assault and criminally negligent  homicide.

Cops also slapped him with driving while ability impaired, because a  Breathalyzer showed his blood-alcohol content to be above 0.06% β€” but did not  exceed the 0.08% legal limit, sources said.

The group of friends had just left Michael’s Side Pocket, a pool hall in  Richmond Hill, before the horrific wreck.

"They were good friends,” Nalini said of her brother and the driver.

A woman who was leaving the hospital in the late afternoon said her son was  recovering from his injuries. 

β€œHe was sleeping, he doesn't know what happened," said the woman, who didn’t  want to be identified. "He's throwing up right now, they're not sure if maybe he  has some internal injuries.”

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Sunil

Some teens today like hot rods, drink and speed on the roadway. Question: Did the young couple that were in the car ever tell the driver not to speed and to drive with caution knowing they have child depending on them? We will never know the answer, but is shows that all of them were immature and were having fun. I am sure they all know that the driver drink alcohol and he wasn't supposed to drive. The story stated that the teen parents dropped out of school to work as an Auto-mechanic, and a stayed home mom to look after their kid who they love so must. What were they doing in a pool hall, and driving around with a drunk driver @ 4:00 am, while the kid was in the care of grandparent? These teens should have been in school and should never get pregnant in the first place. They have no responsibility what so ever.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

What I said on the other thread, too much wildness.  I's sad to see/hear but i get the creeps driving thru Queens on a wk end night, too much wildness.


Ande druggie will tell you that Indocarib youths are 100% perfect and have no substance abuse issues.

As in all cultures, these issues exist, the Whites did not invent drunk driving laws because of IndoCaribs, MADD did not form because of IndoCaribs. They did so because young White kids were drinking and driving and killing themselves and others. Now the Blacks you don't hear so much about because some suggest that they can't afford cars to be caught drinking and driving. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

What I said on the other thread, too much wildness.  I's sad to see/hear but i get the creeps driving thru Queens on a wk end night, too much wildness.


Ande druggie will tell you that Indocarib youths are 100% perfect and have no substance abuse issues.

As in all cultures, these issues exist,

Yet you only talk about it when it occurs among blacks.

 

Alcoholism and drug abuse is lower among black youths than among others, yet you will never admit this.

 

And yes druggie many black youths drive cars.  Get stopped and frisked and the cops cant pin excessive drinking on them.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

What I said on the other thread, too much wildness.  I's sad to see/hear but i get the creeps driving thru Queens on a wk end night, too much wildness.


Ande druggie will tell you that Indocarib youths are 100% perfect and have no substance abuse issues.

As in all cultures, these issues exist,

Yet you only talk about it when it occurs among blacks.

 

Alcoholism and drug abuse is lower among black youths than among others, yet you will never admit this.

 

And yes druggie many black youths drive cars.  Get stopped and frisked and the cops cant pin excessive drinking on them.

Ow man two young people were killed send you sympathies please. You taking other people's sorrow to bring in race and your own agenda. How low can you get? This is not about race, brother. This can happen to anybody. Please for once send your condolences to the family if you are man enough.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Yet you only talk about it when it occurs among blacks.

 

Alcoholism and drug abuse is lower among black youths than among others, yet you will never admit this.

 

And yes druggie many black youths drive cars.  Get stopped and frisked and the cops cant pin excessive drinking on them.

You are hallucinating again, when did I bring up drunk driving among Blacks? Mayor Bloomberg stated that most victims identify Blacks as the perpetrators of crime; murders, rape and robbery. They have their own vices, maybe drugs and alcohol is not so prevalent due to other interests.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

What I said on the other thread, too much wildness.  I's sad to see/hear but i get the creeps driving thru Queens on a wk end night, too much wildness.


Ande druggie will tell you that Indocarib youths are 100% perfect and have no substance abuse issues.

As in all cultures, these issues exist, the Whites did not invent drunk driving laws because of IndoCaribs, MADD did not form because of IndoCaribs. They did so because young White kids were drinking and driving and killing themselves and others. Now the Blacks you don't hear so much about because some suggest that they can't afford cars to be caught drinking and driving. 

What a stupid punk ass statement to make? Your racism never ceases and you are black as a tar baby and your kid no less and I am sure these light skinned indians will treat you and have treated you like crap yet you have the audacity to make similar prejudicial statement. My son is 21 and he is definitely black. He drives an RX 350 SUV he bought on his own. And he also has a rag top 67 mustang . Everyone of his friends have cars so I do not know what the hell you are talking about. Drinking is not a black thing as it is an Indian Guyanese thing. Indians from india do not walk the street with a bottle in their hand as a trophy the way you habitually see Guyanese kids do

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

What a stupid punk ass statement to make? Your racism never ceases and you are black as a tar baby and your kid no less and I am sure these light skinned indians will treat you and have treated you like crap yet you have the audacity to make similar prejudicial statement. My son is 21 and he is definitely black. He drives an RX 350 SUV he bought on his own. And he also has a rag top 67 mustang . Everyone of his friends have cars so I do not know what the hell you are talking about. Drinking is not a black thing as it is an Indian Guyanese thing. Indians from india do not walk the street with a bottle in their hand as a trophy the way you habitually see Guyanese kids do

You will note that we are not talking about one person but rather the average Black. Your alleged son is the exception rather than the rule. Compare the Black community to others and you too will acknowledge that there are more teenage drivers in those communities as the socioeconomic situation of Blacks tend to lag behind others. 

 

Go argue with Bloomberg as he also had the nerve to speak the truth about the stop and frisk program, targeting majority Blacks based on 90% of victims description. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

What a stupid punk ass statement to make? Your racism never ceases and you are black as a tar baby and your kid no less and I am sure these light skinned indians will treat you and have treated you like crap yet you have the audacity to make similar prejudicial statement. My son is 21 and he is definitely black. He drives an RX 350 SUV he bought on his own. And he also has a rag top 67 mustang . Everyone of his friends have cars so I do not know what the hell you are talking about. Drinking is not a black thing as it is an Indian Guyanese thing. Indians from india do not walk the street with a bottle in their hand as a trophy the way you habitually see Guyanese kids do

You will note that we are not talking about one person but rather the average Black. Your alleged son is the exception rather than the rule. Compare the Black community to others and you too will acknowledge that there are more teenage drivers in those communities as the socioeconomic situation of Blacks tend to lag behind others. 

 

Go argue with Bloomberg as he also had the nerve to speak the truth about the stop and frisk program, targeting majority Blacks based on 90% of victims description. 

Quit the bull..:"they can't afford cars"! coming from an immigrant who possibly never had a car until he came here! you are a sick puppy.

As for bloomberg...what makes him a prophet? Wealth does not mean once cannot be an uninformed ass on some social issues.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Quit the bull..:"they can't afford cars"! coming from an immigrant who possibly never had a car until he came here! you are a sick puppy.

As for bloomberg...what makes him a prophet? Wealth does not mean once cannot be an uninformed ass on some social issues.

Our family had cars and so did my parents. To you it appears that a car is a novelty so that is why you bought one for your alleged black son to show off even thought he doesn't need one.

Bloomberg was quoting police statistics collected from victims of crime. He was not propheticizing, just stating a fact.  Just the other day a Black man in my neck of the woods was caught beating a woman in her home in front of her kid, you must have heard of the nanny cam bandit? Also two blacks kids were caught stealing money at my town pool. Bloomberg has a point.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Quit the bull..:"they can't afford cars"! coming from an immigrant who possibly never had a car until he came here! you are a sick puppy.

As for bloomberg...what makes him a prophet? Wealth does not mean once cannot be an uninformed ass on some social issues.

Our family had cars and so did my parents. To you it appears that a car is a novelty so that is why you bought one for your alleged black son to show off even thought he doesn't need one.

Bloomberg was quoting police statistics collected from victims of crime. He was not propheticizing, just stating a fact.  Just the other day a Black man in my neck of the woods was caught beating a woman in her home in front of her kid, you must have heard of the nanny cam bandit? Also two blacks kids were caught stealing money at my town pool. Bloomberg has a point.

My son exist. He does not have alleged existence.  Bloomberg is as usual making an ass of himself by extending his opinion outside the scope of his knowledge and I am not the only one calling him an ass and justifiably so.

 

I will not bother with the rest of your racist rationalizing of a nonsensical statement.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

My son exist. He does not have alleged existence.  Bloomberg is as usual making an ass of himself by extending his opinion outside the scope of his knowledge and I am not the only one calling him an ass and justifiably so.

 .

Post his picture and lets see if you are fabricating once again a fictitious double life as an Amerindian with an imaginary black kid.  

Bloomberg is a well respected person, unlike you whose only claim to fame is posting on GNI. He correctly correlated the description of perpetrators by victims to the stop and frisk demographic. If 90% of a group are identified by crime victims as the perpetrators then it only makes sense that this should be the demographic targeted in a frisk and stop program.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

My son exist. He does not have alleged existence.  Bloomberg is as usual making an ass of himself by extending his opinion outside the scope of his knowledge and I am not the only one calling him an ass and justifiably so.

 .

Post his picture and lets see if you are fabricating once again a fictitious double life as an Amerindian with an imaginary black kid.  

Bloomberg is a well respected person, unlike you whose only claim to fame is posting on GNI. He correctly correlated the description of perpetrators by victims to the stop and frisk demographic. If 90% of a group are identified by crime victims as the perpetrators then it only makes sense that this should be the demographic targeted in a frisk and stop program.  

I never ask you or anyone to place their personal data here. I do so at my own disctretion. My son has no dealings here and as an adult has jurisdiction over his likeness. I have no authority to post it.

 

If you think I am not who I say  I am that is your problem not mine.

 

Bloomberg is just another insensitive ass insulated by wealth and privilege and  disconnected from the reality of ordinary life. The statics indicate that  white folks get a pass all the time as usual.

 

β€œNobody racially profiles” is a curious statement. Every year since 2003, blacks and Latinos have consistently accounted for around 85 percent of stop-and-frisk selectees; according to 2010 census data, blacks and Latinos make up 52.6 percent of New York City’s total population. β€œEven in neighborhoods that are predominantly white, black, and Latino New Yorkers face the disproportionate brunt,” reports the New York Civil Liberties Union. β€œFor example, in 2011, Black and Latino New Yorkers made up 24 percent of the population in Park Slope, but 79 percent of stops.”

 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

My son exist. He does not have alleged existence.  Bloomberg is as usual making an ass of himself by extending his opinion outside the scope of his knowledge and I am not the only one calling him an ass and justifiably so.

 .

Post his picture and lets see if you are fabricating once again a fictitious double life as an Amerindian with an imaginary black kid.  

Bloomberg is a well respected person, unlike you whose only claim to fame is posting on GNI. He correctly correlated the description of perpetrators by victims to the stop and frisk demographic. If 90% of a group are identified by crime victims as the perpetrators then it only makes sense that this should be the demographic targeted in a frisk and stop program.  

I never ask you or anyone to place their personal data here. I do so at my own disctretion. My son has no dealings here and as an adult has jurisdiction over his likeness. I have no authority to post it.

 

If you think I am not who I say  I am that is your problem not mine.

 

Bloomberg is just another insensitive ass insulated by wealth and privilege and  disconnected from the reality of ordinary life. The statics indicate that  white folks get a pass all the time as usual.

 

β€œNobody racially profiles” is a curious statement. Every year since 2003, blacks and Latinos have consistently accounted for around 85 percent of stop-and-frisk selectees; according to 2010 census data, blacks and Latinos make up 52.6 percent of New York City’s total population. β€œEven in neighborhoods that are predominantly white, black, and Latino New Yorkers face the disproportionate brunt,” reports the New York Civil Liberties Union. β€œFor example, in 2011, Black and Latino New Yorkers made up 24 percent of the population in Park Slope, but 79 percent of stops.”

 

Anthony Weiner will put a stop to all this, fresh from tweeting he is leading in the polls.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I never ask you or anyone to place their personal data here. I do so at my own disctretion. My son has no dealings here and as an adult has jurisdiction over his likeness. I have no authority to post it.

 

If you think I am not who I say  I am that is your problem not mine.

 

Bloomberg is just another insensitive ass insulated by wealth and privilege and  disconnected from the reality of ordinary life. The statics indicate that  white folks get a pass all the time as usual.

 

β€œNobody racially profiles” is a curious statement. Every year since 2003, blacks and Latinos have consistently accounted for around 85 percent of stop-and-frisk selectees; according to 2010 census data, blacks and Latinos make up 52.6 percent of New York City’s total population. β€œEven in neighborhoods that are predominantly white, black, and Latino New Yorkers face the disproportionate brunt,” reports the New York Civil Liberties Union. β€œFor example, in 2011, Black and Latino New Yorkers made up 24 percent of the population in Park Slope, but 79 percent of stops.”

 

What is good for the goose is apparently not good for the gander. You run around posting everyone else's personal data over the years but keep yours secret, a true measure of a scumbag. 

 

Again you are using the incorrect metrics. The demographics % of the stops are not a function of the population at large but rather the population of reported race of suspects as reported by victims. 

 

To humor your illogical conclusion consider this case. If a victim says that he/she was robbed by a Black man, should the police go looking for White and Latino females?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Yet you only talk about it when it occurs among blacks.

 

Alcoholism and drug abuse is lower among black youths than among others, yet you will never admit this.

 

And yes druggie many black youths drive cars.  Get stopped and frisked and the cops cant pin excessive drinking on them.

You are hallucinating again, when did I bring up drunk driving among Blacks? Mayor Bloomberg stated that most victims identify Blacks as the perpetrators of crime; murders, rape and robbery. They have their own vices, maybe drugs and alcohol is not so prevalent due to other interests.  


I see that you need to engage in hatred of blacks so that you can feel good about yourself.  Continue if that is what keeps you happy about what a loser you are.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

Again you are using the incorrect metrics. The demographics % of the stops are not a function of the population at large but rather the population of reported race of suspects as reported by victims. 

 

 

if 90% of the stops result in no arrest and if only 1% of the stops results in a seizure of a gun then clearly a lot of INNOCENT people are being stopped.

 

Given that there are thousands of guns in NYC this should concern you.  But then being an idiot you do not understand that stop and frisk isnt about reducing crime.  Its about precinct commanders submitting data to pretend that they are being effective.

 

Note that stops are reduced this year and yet the NYPD reports thatcrime is down.  Why?  Because the NYPD is focusing on gangs and others knownfor criminal behavior, and less on random stops.

 

If you believe that the huge number of stops are all related to reports of crime then I have a multi billion dollar bridge in Babados to sell you.  Even NYPD cops will tell you that one has nothing to do with the other.

 

Grumpy Grandpa Bloomberg needs to understand that he does not own NYC and will no longer be mayor in a few months.

FM
Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

What I said on the other thread, too much wildness.  I's sad to see/hear but i get the creeps driving thru Queens on a wk end night, too much wildness.


Ande druggie will tell you that Indocarib youths are 100% perfect and have no substance abuse issues.

As in all cultures, these issues exist,

Yet you only talk about it when it occurs among blacks.

 

Alcoholism and drug abuse is lower among black youths than among others, yet you will never admit this.

 

And yes druggie many black youths drive cars.  Get stopped and frisked and the cops cant pin excessive drinking on them.

Ow man two young people were killed send you sympathies please. You taking other people's sorrow to bring in race and your own agenda. How low can you get? This is not about race, brother. This can happen to anybody. Please for once send your condolences to the family if you are man enough.

Since you talking race you are yet to send your sympathies to the ******s that were killed in the crash. Be a man and do it.

FM
Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:

Anthony Weiner will put a stop to all this, fresh from tweeting he is leading in the polls.

He is an opportunistic prick with no record of sensitivity to minority issues. Actually, he is on record exploiting anti minority stereotypes to political ends.


Further,  the man is of low morals and a borderline pervert.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I never ask you or anyone to place their personal data here. I do so at my own disctretion. My son has no dealings here and as an adult has jurisdiction over his likeness. I have no authority to post it.

 

If you think I am not who I say  I am that is your problem not mine.

 

Bloomberg is just another insensitive ass insulated by wealth and privilege and  disconnected from the reality of ordinary life. The statics indicate that  white folks get a pass all the time as usual.

 

β€œNobody racially profiles” is a curious statement. Every year since 2003, blacks and Latinos have consistently accounted for around 85 percent of stop-and-frisk selectees; according to 2010 census data, blacks and Latinos make up 52.6 percent of New York City’s total population. β€œEven in neighborhoods that are predominantly white, black, and Latino New Yorkers face the disproportionate brunt,” reports the New York Civil Liberties Union. β€œFor example, in 2011, Black and Latino New Yorkers made up 24 percent of the population in Park Slope, but 79 percent of stops.”

 

What is good for the goose is apparently not good for the gander. You run around posting everyone else's personal data over the years but keep yours secret, a true measure of a scumbag. 

 

Again you are using the incorrect metrics. The demographics % of the stops are not a function of the population at large but rather the population of reported race of suspects as reported by victims. 

 

To humor your illogical conclusion consider this case. If a victim says that he/she was robbed by a Black man, should the police go looking for White and Latino females?

You are truly a stupid man. Why should I post my son's data here for your personal satisfaction? I do as I please not as you would like me to do.

 

You are also clearly mathematically dense.  read Caribj's response.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You are truly a stupid man. Why should I post my son's data here for your personal satisfaction? I do as I please not as you would like me to do.

 

You are also clearly mathematically dense.  read Caribj's response.

Not for my personal satisfaction but rather to prove you are not a fraud, until then you continue to be slimy worm who spy on people while hiding your own identity.

CaribJ is erroneous in his conclusions, just as you are. Don't shout that I am dense, speak to Bloomberg who also reached the same conclusion. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You are truly a stupid man. Why should I post my son's data here for your personal satisfaction? I do as I please not as you would like me to do.

 

You are also clearly mathematically dense.  read Caribj's response.

Not for my personal satisfaction but rather to prove you are not a fraud, until then you continue to be slimy worm who spy on people while hiding your own identity.

CaribJ is erroneous in his conclusions, just as you are. Don't shout that I am dense, speak to Bloomberg who also reached the same conclusion. 

You have to demonstrate I am a fraud. As usual you are demonstrably a fool. You can post my identity since you speak of me in personal ways. I wonder how you got that if not by spying if you think it is true? But as usual you are into fantasy.

 

Caribj is correct. The data represents a representative sample of who in the population are likely to be stopped vs who are not. It happens it is and example of racist profiling as usual hence prejudicial and wrong. It is also  not based on potential for criminality since only an ass like you will beg that conclusion. Actually, it would be what skews that data about who among criminals are apprehended.

 

Bloomberg and you are merely blinded by your inane presumptions.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You have to demonstrate I am a fraud. As usual you are demonstrably a fool. You can post my identity since you speak of me in personal ways. I wonder how you got that if not by spying if you think it is true? But as usual you are into fantasy.

 

Caribj is correct. The data represents a representative sample of who in the population are likely to be stopped vs who are not. It happens it is and example of racist profiling as usual hence prejudicial and wrong. It is also  not based on potential for criminality since only an ass like you will beg that conclusion. Actually, it would be what skews that data about who among criminals are apprehended.

 

Bloomberg and you are merely blinded by your inane presumptions.

Great minds think alike but also the opposite is true, dense people also reach the same conclusions. I would suggest that Bloomberg is a great mind as evidenced by his resume of success and public office achievements. CaribJ and you are clearly at the other end of the spectrum when it comes to intelligence. You target the folks that fit the description of the perps and not those who don't.  Else police would be wasting their time and might as well not frisk anyone in the interest of political correctness. People like you are the ones that will roll us back to the Dinken days of lawlessness. It was only after Guilani became mayor and implemented the stop and frisk that the city became habitable.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You have to demonstrate I am a fraud. As usual you are demonstrably a fool. You can post my identity since you speak of me in personal ways. I wonder how you got that if not by spying if you think it is true? But as usual you are into fantasy.

 

Caribj is correct. The data represents a representative sample of who in the population are likely to be stopped vs who are not. It happens it is and example of racist profiling as usual hence prejudicial and wrong. It is also  not based on potential for criminality since only an ass like you will beg that conclusion. Actually, it would be what skews that data about who among criminals are apprehended.

 

Bloomberg and you are merely blinded by your inane presumptions.

Great minds think alike but also the opposite is true, dense people also reach the same conclusions. I would suggest that Bloomberg is a great mind as evidenced by his resume of success and public office achievements. CaribJ and you are clearly at the other end of the spectrum when it comes to intelligence. You target the folks that fit the description of the perps and not those who don't.  Else police would be wasting their time and might as well not frisk anyone in the interest of political correctness. People like you are the ones that will roll us back to the Dinken days of lawlessness. It was only after Guilani became mayor and implemented the stop and frisk that the city became habitable.  

Dummy, the logical opposite of the statement : "Great minds think alike" is "Tiny minds think differently". There is a convergence on a truth or the falsity of thing from smart people but abject confusion about it from dumb people like you. Trying to reconcile the idea of "wise men think alike and fools  seldom differ" into logical opposites is the task for a fool.

 

Like bloomberg, you ignore the reality in the evidence preferring to rely on your prejudices more. The world is populated with brilliant minds who are myopic in other areas because of prejudices.

 

Your position of stopping people because of what you think they are is a recipe for discontent. White people clearly commit most of the crimes in terms of monetary loss an damage to the economy. Wall street is an example of that if you are looking for scope.

 

If you are looking for numbers look to the size of the drug economy bolstered by users.  One does not have to go into guess on who are the largest number of drug users. You can check that out.  They are also responsible for most of the petty crimes. If one were to target the population on distribution by race and ethnicity who do you think would be in the jails? You and Bloomberg prefer to follow your prejudices than the reality here.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

CaribJ is erroneous in his conclusions, just as you are. Don't shout that I am dense, speak to Bloomberg who also reached the same conclusion. 

 

 

Drtuggie up to this point you do not understand that 10% of 43% is 4.3% so I do not expect you to understand that stopping and frisking the same people 5 times in a month and not finding any evidence that they are criminals is clearly a stupid strategy.

 

Now I know that you think that EVERY young black male is a criminal who hasnt been caught so you consider a strategy of harrassing

 

Druggie there has been a DROP in stop and frisk activity.  In the 46th precinct in the Bronx, when where there is much of this S&F shooting incidents are DOWN 35% for 2013 year to date even though S&F is also DOWN.

 

So druggie clearly as people complained about S&F the NYPD have had to move on to other tactics.  And that is a CLEARER focus on gang activity and monitoring known criminals, and less on random stops. 

 

All the filth that pours out of your mouth is motivated by your hatred of blacks because they beat you up as a kid and you couldnt defend yourself, so now you play brave behind a computer. 

 

I cannot help you if yoir hatred of blacks is also because you hate your dark skin and wished that you were white.

FM
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Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
.  Else police would be wasting their time and might as well not frisk anyone

And they are wasting their time as 90% of the people who they arrest are innocent and only 1% of whom are carrying guns, the reason behind S&F.

 

Many of those arrested were carrying small amounts of weed.  Now go and search random groups of young whites and tell me why they arent also arrested for carrying weed and worse.

FM

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