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Good morning, my fellow Guyanese. I am also waiting to see what will occur today and in the next coming days. It is my hope everyone remains safe and calm during the entire process. Amral, thank you for providing an opportunity for us to congregate and discuss the current events occurring in our beloved country. I also get my news from News Room.
Listen to a very wise lady, most of us will nod our heads and say we in agreement 100%, some will say she wants to get into politics. BUT of us in agreement, how many will do as she suggests?. not many i'am afraid! just think!
Robbery and acts of vandalism at Homeline Furnishing, Rosignol Village last nite.
Shame on that nurse who promised to refuse refuse treatment to people of a certain ethnicity. You are obviously not a health professional!
Live audio feed from the injunction hearing:
Is the Live audio stream link re: Injunction working?
@Dondadda it was working, but the matter is now adjourned as there are outstanding affidavits that have yet to be served by the PPP/C attorneys. Adjourned until 1:30PM EST.
Is Claudette Singh in the court house?
@Rochelle. How can the affidavits be served if the individuals are in hiding?
Yes, this is how abie Guyanese does role...since 1997 (except 2011 and 2015). Fuss PPP win. Den abie deny dem win. Den abie get court orda. Now de shoe pon de ada feet. PPP get de court arda in spite dem win. Den abie get protest. Den coolie peopkle get attack. Den de police and army do nothin. Den de violence and robbery start--nuff Indos get attack and kill. Den abie get two private peopkle foh pay dem bais foh get hire guns. Abie do de dutty wuk foh PPP cause dem doan want balance military and address blackman economic concern. PPP go seh how dem is blackman party too...hey hey hey.
But dem gaffo allow abie hustlers and pushas foh push lil dope and smuggle fuel, evade tax and suh...hey hey hey. Abie also sell de coke and dope to abie mattie coolies who go mix am wid lil rum in dem rural village. Den PPP staan back and mek two family and fren get rich as well as wan group of Lumumba blackman. But abie mek sure abie chase dem coolies like daag when dem come abie affice foh complain...hey hey hey. Den blackman get kill extra judicial. Den blackman kick up storm how 400 a dem get kill when at least half pon de liss is Indos...hey hey hey. Same ole some ole...hey hey hey.
Ayoo carry on...
Delaying tatricks being used to prorogue the illegal government in the court.
De world bess cartoon man:
@Labba the current election is incomplete. You are presenting Apple and oranges to your arguments.
The international community has agreed the election is incomplete, I did not see the international community say such conclusion between 1992-2015 election.
Why did Gecom refused a recount of Region 4, but proceed with Region 5 and 6.
Labba need to stop with his trashy style of writing, itâs annoying.
Is good Harris put pon Mohamed Shahabudeen pon de picture. Meh know ayoo like cuss Moses and Khemraj. Dere is no greater coolie crabdaag and scumbag dan Shahabudeen...hey hey hey. Ayoo PPP loooovveee de Burnham-Shahab law...suh ayoo continue cuss Moses and Khemraj...hey hey hey.
@Dave...when yuh go switch to yuh REV handle? Hey hey hey...me tell yuh...dis shart mini skirt stree walk ting...
I am not REV Labba.
Phyllis Jordan would make an excellent GECOM Chairperson.
Sure the Burnham Constitution must be the worst document ever compiled. However, that is the same Constitution in use since 1980 and has not been the cause of any post elections issues. It is the PNC refusal to respect the will of the electorate that has caused all kinds of problems every time. So lets not insert the problems with the Constitution as that will do nothing other than create a unnecessary deflection.
@Bibi Haniffa it is only proper for the APNUAFC attorneys to see all affidavits in scope that the PPP/C wish to include as part of its evidence.
This way, another injunction request cannot be made to delay the recounting any further.
At the end of the day, the injunction prevents GECOM from finalizing Region 4 counts with any evidence of its statement of polls. What I find fascinating was the Region 4 statement of polls issued by PPP/C is now somewhat considered the final tally. It is not. In fact, the SOPs provided by PPP/C was dated 2/29, yet, no one wish to acknowledge or address that oversight.
Posted by: Denis Chabrol in Business, Constitution, Diplomatic Corps, Elections, Foreign Affairs, Law, Legal, NewsMarch 6, 2020 1 Comment
The African Cultural and Development Association (ACDA) on Friday called on key western nations and international observers to be cautious about the statements they have been issuing on the electoral situation in Guyana following the March 2, 2020 general and regional elections.
ACDA noted that their statements were not contributing to a lowering of tensions in a country whose population is made mainly of Guyanese of African and East Indian descent.
âACDA views the statements made on the current election controversy by the International Observers and some of the Foreign Missions here in Guyana as irresponsible and unhelpful to the best interest of the Nation and only aids in fueling discord in an already ethnically cleaved society,â the organisation said.
The United States government and three members of the U.S. Congress, as well as joint statements by the U.S., Britain, Canada and the European Union also called for the Region Four election results to be tabulated and verified in keeping with legal procedures before results of the 2020 general elections are declared and a government is sworn in.
Similar calls were issued by election observer missions of the Carter Centre, Commonwealth, European Union and the Organisation of American States for the verification process to be conducted in accordance with set procedures.
ACDA said it has noted and condemns the rise in derogatory racial slurs and threats being made in social media and publicly against people of African Descent.
The organisation called on âall sides to demonstrate restraint and for a speedy resolution to the current impasse.â
David Grangerâs A Partnership for National Unity+Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) continues to claim victory in Mondayâs general election which polling came in for high praise by the international observers.
@Rochelle, can you please provide references to your comments below..
. In fact, the SOPs provided by PPP/C was dated 2/29, yet, no one wish to acknowledge or address that oversight.
Region 4 2020 SoPs
District #4 - Demerara - Mahaica
The People's Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) invites everyone to view the tabulated Statements of Poll (SoPs) for Region # 4.
The SoPs are public documents that should be made available for public scrutiny by everyone. We must protect the will of the people against the rogue elements within GECOM, who are attempting to manipulate the tabulation of the Region 4 votes using fake spreadsheets.
The links below show our tabulation of the signed SoPs by sub-districts: East Bank Demerara, South Georgetown, North Georgetown & East Coast Demerara.
Click on the links below to view our tabulation and the signed SoPs.
Download Entire Region 4 Tabulation Sheet
Access Individual Areas
It is odd that so many people are taking a document produced by Jagdeo as the gospel truth.
It is odd that so many people are taking a document produced by Jagdeo as the gospel truth
isnât it odd that Gecom refused to continue the count for Region 4.
@Totaram: It is odd that so many people are taking a document produced by Jagdeo as the gospel truth.
I haven't seen any international observer rejected this document. Do you have any document to prove that his copy is counterfeit? Why did you not address the "make my own results" spreadsheet copy produced by the riggers of your PNC? Why don't you address the disappearance of the PNC election officers and GECOM Chairwoman Singh? If you know so much, can you give us an insight as to where YOU hid them and the decision of the high court?
Stop the pus$yfooting and delaying tactics. Since Monday night Granger knew he lost the election. Itâs impossible to rig as all the observers and political candidates have the SOPs which have been tallied. Both Shuman and Timothy Jonas as well as others have publicly acknowledged that the PPP won the election.
SOP final count give PPP 34 seats. APNU 30 seats. Joinder parties 1 seat.
End of story. Stop wasting people time. You cannot steal an election with the whole world watching on. Itâs stupid. Just plain stupid.
Teacher Phyllis Jordon spoke eloquently , she spoke the truth. Would the PNC listen to her?
dude...how do you know that is legit?
If PPP got 34 seats, they rigged it also. I now understand why GECOM is *****footing. Somebody stole the Amerindian votes, the Portuguese votes and the Mixed people votes. Blasted Crookish politicians. Nobady can be trusted, all want to thief.
Call new elections or blessed be the biggest baddest bullier.
Guyana fvcked.
@Former Member Ask Jagdeo where Claudette Singh is? He knows everything. Last report from him suggests that she was in a room on the second floor of a GECOM building but people couldn't get into the room because the handle (knob) on the outside was removed. Don't take my word for it..check with the champion of SOPS.
@seignet: Call new elections or blessed be the biggest baddest bullier.
What makes you think the PNC government will not use the police and army to disenfranchise the PPP voters so they can win? PNC Terror will be unleashed regardless of the observers. Remember that these people will refuse to relinquish power at all costs, even if it means sacrificing innocent people.
@Totaram: You must have been sleeping or blind or you dozed off when she was held hostage streamed live on FB. She was only allowed to exit through the back exit in a vehicle in the dark hours of the night. She is probably with Granger and his professional riggers.
@Former Member
Don't waste time with Tota the PNC mole, she came just in time for the election to draw confusion with the facts. The SOP that Jagdeo has is the same document that all the other opposition parties have, exactly the same numbers. GECOM has the correct untampered figures, but with every day goes by chances are GECOM figures will change.
I think the PPP should invite all the opposition parties and all the observers and do their own swearing in, then instruct Gecom to show the correct figures.
Presently Parliament is dissolved, so there is no government. That woman Karen Cummings should never hold a press meeting with observers., also Rumjaat should not be passing orders.
Has ACDA issued any condemnation to GECOM for violating the constitution in their validation of the votes in region 4?
Bai kp, that Cummings pos walked mightily into her own shit and everyone in that room gave her a mighty ass whooping. I never see a politician want to run away so fast. Serves she skont right.
Btw, it is common knowledge that politicians love the camera more than anything else. That said, what the hell has happened to Singh, Lowenfield and Mingo. Never see people disappear out of sight like those three. Is there a Bermuda triangle in that building?
Ksaz, the ACDA has always been a PNC outfit that fought for the PNC followers only. They only see the black population as being marginalized. As of today and since Tuesday, they turned a blind eye as to the elections and the massive fraud being perpetrated on the rest of the population. I would not be surprised that some of their members are posting here.
@Seignet: the sea of red that you saw during the campaign and yesterday should justify the 34 seats.
Why would PPP rigg a Election which was control by APNU, and Shuman was inside the Amerindian base on the day of election, he acknowledges that PPP win.
It puzzles me how you guys comes up with these conclusion when social media was live and kicking for the world to see. Do you believe the Russians hands was in the boxes .
Look at this video I am sharing here guys.
Skelly, that is why the should not be taken seriously. Everyone and their uncle knows that the PPP won. Heck, Granger and his Cabal also know that the PPP won so nothing is wrong with anyone pointing out the nonsense going on at GECOM where all the major officers have gone AWOL. No one can tell where are those people right now. It seems that they are not fit and proper at all because all three of them have complaints of illnesses since the elections. Meanwhile Totaram is misguidedly obsessed with Jagdeo.
GECOM has the final say. Not the political party. Not even the court of law. And Mr. Jagdeo himself acknowledged this fact. Once the injunction is lifted, the GECOM can finalize the count for Region 4 and put this to an end. But the injunction must be lifted.
Please see below video of Jagdeo acknowledging GECOM's liberty to decide on how they wish to verify all votes:
I think GECOM is compromised...seems they are working for APNU from what I can judge from all that's going on
@Former Member PPP/C would have to prove that GECOM was compromised to stay the injunction to proceed further. A tall order to prove.
While the verification process was ongoing GECOM was overrun by PPP officials. They were all over the place. Apparently at one point there were 22 PPP operatives in the building when the rules allowed only 4. GECOM employees claim they were intimidated. What I don't understand is why in this so called totalitarian state the police didn't just move in and take the PPP people back to Pradoville?
Heard a rumor that Granger will be sworn in on a temp basis and the hearings will go on and who knows...years?
In the end, Exxon whats a representative Govt in place.
@Former Member...doh is wan likely but illigetimate outcome. remember who control de army control powah. Dem PNC vagabonds go string it along foh 5 year. Hey hey hey...dem PPP bais goh move to CCJ...hey hey hey. At least meh gat meh big cyar, big house and loud music...hey hey hey.
Balram Singh Rai deh know dis.
@Former Member PPP/C would have to prove that GECOM was compromised to stay the injunction to proceed further. A tall order to prove.
Gecom abandoned their responsibility. The verification process was not completed and they have refused to proceed thus far.
@Totaram, I also wonder why the police did not intervene when PPP/C operatives stormed through to see Madame Justice Claudette Singh.
I also wonder why PPP/C is requesting a recount of Region 4 votes if the statement of polls provided by the party was considered as final?
So many questions remain.
@Rochelle...a see yuh beating dem gurls at gaumont and st george...hey hey hey.
Are the SOPs final? Don't they have to be verified?
See below a full statement issued by Supriya Singh-Bodden, C.C.H., which was issued on the Facebook page of the Guyana Foundation.
Singh is the Founder/Trustee of Foundation. She was recently awarded one of Guyanaâs highest national honors â the Caciqueâs Crown of Honor (C.C.H.):
There Is No Winner if the Electoral process is flawed.
The present impasse with the recent elections process where stakeholders were unable to verify the results will have dire consequences for Guyana. There is no winner.
I personally and publicly endorsed Mr. David Granger at the 2015 General Elections. I was not involved in any way with the present elections or the APNU AFC government over their term in office.
It was my view then that they were committed to putting Guyana first to lead the country to prosperity and betterment for all. I proudly accepted one of Guyanaâs highest honors from him. Pledging to always serve my country.
I would like to use this platform to say now with absolute conviction that the recent events surrounding the electoral process are wrong.
The credibility of GECOM is seriously questioned, a cloud has descended over the organization. It is with great disappointment that Retired Justice Claudette Singh who is an inspiration to many with her career achievements, has let Guyana down with her silence.
It is an insult to the nation that the first direct utterance on the results of the recent elections was delivered by a APNU AFC party operative. The Chairperson of GECOM and David Granger owes it to the people to face them directly and truthfully to explain the present position, any other course of action is reckless.
If the APNU AFC or any other stakeholder has objections or suspicions about the process they must go through the legal channels to register their concerns.
I do not support or condone a situation where David Granger and his party wins and Guyana looses.
In the interest of all of the people of Guyana we are calling for an urgent move by all to be guided by the rule of law and nothing else. In so doing they will represent and protect the will of the people of Guyana.
This organization deals daily with the very poor people of Guyana.
We deal with people who are suffering with severe mental health challenges with suicide. We have been struggling to lift them up, give them hope that there will be a better future.
We would like to sound a serious warning that the present state of political mayhem does not make things easier. It will have far reaching negative effects deep into every village of Guyana.
The people of Guyana do not have the coping skills to live through more political turmoil.
If we know not to which port, we are sailing no wind is favorable, the only safe ship in a storm is Leadership. Is that too much to ask for?
There can be no way forward under the present conditions.
@Labba then Guyana entering into a doomsday scenario. Not wishing, just saying. Guyana will be ripped apart by forces outside their control.
I also wonder why PPP/C is requesting a recount of Region 4 votes if the statement of polls provided by the party was considered as final?
So many questions remain
There can be no recount if the count is NOT completed.
@Former Member, Coalition just playing games just as the did with the NCV. They know the truth but spinning.
I think they will prevail with some compromise initiated by the US.
WARNING TO ALL GUYANESE CITIZENS
Statement by the following Governments :
United States of America, UK, Canada, EU
6th March 2020
âWe call on President Granger to avoid a transition of government which we believe would be unconstitutional as it would be based on a vote tabulation process that lacked credibility and transparencyâ
The effects of SANCTIONS on Guyana should David Granger be sworn in -
1. Putting all oil revenues in an escrow account (Venezuela Part 2)
2. All donor assistance to finance projects will be suspended
3. Individuals sanctions including visa revocation, freezing of bank accounts may be imposed (Iran, Russia etc are examples)
4. Freezing of Guyana foreign reserves in international central banks could be imposed
5. With limited financial resources, essential and critical imports like drugs, food, spare parts would become a common place thing
6. Guyana could easily become another Venezuela
7. Increase in poverty, frustration and hopelessness could create more problems for the ordinary man
8. Of course, there will be more demonstrations and country will tear itself apart
9. Guyana could be expelled from major organizations including the Commonwealth, OAS, CARICOM to mention a few
10. Guyana will become a pariah state
PLEASE CIRCULATE TO ALL GUYANESE CITIZENS HOME AND ABROAD
MAY GOD BLESS GUYANA
@Former Member Of course bai...dem bannas saying is dem time foh tief now. Dem seh dis in open.
@Former Member, Coalition just playing games just as the did with the NCV. They know the truth but spinning.
I think they will prevail with some compromise initiated by the US
Interesting to see if any dignitaries will show up at the swearing in..
Court hearing has resumed:
STATEMENT RE GUYANA ELECTIONS
by
Hon Mia Amor Mottley Q.C., M.P., Chairman of the Caribbean Community.
The Caribbean Community
calls on the electoral officials in Guyana and the representative political parties to work together to achieve a peaceful and lawful completion of the electoral process in Guyana by ensuring the tabulation of the results in all Regions using the Statement of Polls in a transparent manner in the presence of the representatives of the political parties and the electoral observers.
Indeed, CARICOM issued a statement on Thursday night and one was also issued yesterday from the Chief of the independent Caricom Electoral observation team. Both statements called on GECOM to complete the electoral process.
We are very clear, every vote must be made to count; and transparently so.
We have noted that all sides have been making serious allegations against each other.
It is critical that good sense prevail.The Preservation of law and order is paramount and All parties must work hard to ensure that there is peace on the roads and in the communities across Guyana. There has already been 1 death reported overnight. That is 1 death too many.
In simple language, we ask the parties to recognise that the primary consideration must not only be who will be President but, moreso, who will be alive come next week or next month, for there cannot be a tolerance for any further loss of life.
I have spoken to both the President and the Leader of the Opposition and indicated that CARICOM stands ready to be able to be there to facilitate further dialogue and any actions that are necessary.
We have done this on many occasions in the past, including in Guyana, when elections have been highly contentious and when social order and the rule of law has been threatened across the region.
We are family and this is what happens when they are disputes in families.
We will work together to create the space for dialogue and resolution once there is an acceptance of the part of all parties that there is a higher interest beyond simply the result in this election.
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@Former Member, if its a compromise, they will.
@Dave now ayoo mekkin sense. Yuh gat to freeze de aile money in farrin account foh true...
Here is Harmon calling for verification of SOP in 2015 before a declaration
The U.S. Department of State has urged that no candidate be sworn in until issues are resolved surrounding the declaration of unverified results for the countryâs largest voting district.
âAt this juncture, preparations to install officials without resolving the serious issues identified in the vote counting process would create a climate of uncertainty for the citizens of Guyana, Guyanaâs international partners, and businesses looking to invest in Guyana,â said Ambassador Michael Kozak, Acting Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs of the U.S. Department of State.
Mr Mortimer Mingo, the Returning Officer for the Region Four Electoral District, on Thursday signed off on a declaration that put the APNU+AFC in the lead to take the seat of government, but the opposition say if a verification of the statements of poll are verified, it would show the PPP winning.
The opposition PPP and international and local observers want to see the verification process completed before any declaration of the overall results of the elections are made.
In a statement to the News Room, Kozak stated: âWe urge that no further results be announced and that no candidate take an oath of office until the vote count is complete and all questions have been resolved according to the process established under Guyanese law.â
According to Kozak, the Department of State is tracking the vote count after Guyanaâs March 2 elections, and we share the concerns expressed by OAS and other electoral observers about the credibility of the counting process,â
He said that a resolution of the issues in accordance in law is what will ensure the ability of the Guyanese people to choose their leadership. He noted that independent electoral observation missions are on the ground to verify that the votes are counted accurately and transparently.
It seems a gas station has been set on fire.. Ayo just watch the video
Police block Marshalls from serving court orders.
Despite repeated efforts, High Court Marshalls could not locate Mingo, Chief Elections Officer Keith Lowenfield and GECOM Chairman, Retired Justice Claudette Singh to serve them the orders. Only the six commissioners were served.
@ Dave ...
My understanding is that the needed court orders were served yesterday - March 06, 2020 --- perhaps those were totally different issues.
Also, it is highly inappropriate for police officers to hinder/block legitimate personnel to serve court orders.
Interesting to see as issues develop.
@ DG, the picture was taken Thursday as they tried to serve them . Agree with you on the needed ones served
But read this report today from Demerara waves.
Mar 07, 2020 News, Source - Kaieteur News Online -- https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...in-briefly-deferred/
The hearing into the application filed in the High Court to determine whether blocking the swearing in of President David Granger over the unverified Region Four elections results is lawful, has been scheduled to resume at 13:30 hours today.
The hearing commence this morning before Chief Justice Roxane George in the Georgetown High Court.
Attorney at Law, Neil Boston S.C, who is representing the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) in the matter, requested time to study the affidavits in relation to the challenge presented by the Opposition, Peopleâs Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/Câ)s legal team led by Trinidad-based Senior Counsel, Douglas Mendes.
Mendes, who was present in Court this morning, told the Chief Justice Roxane George that his team was only able to file and serve one of four affidavits to parties representing the other side. He also said that team would need time to file the three additional affidavits. Taking the factors into consideration, the Chief Justice granted time for the parties to file and serve the supplementary affidavits.
The Chief Justice also gave a commitment that she will try to work assiduously to address the matter as âthe nation is waiting.â
Justice George appealed for the cooperation of both the legal teams to have the matter hashed out as soon as possible.
Attorney at Law, Neil Boston S.C
DG...that's old news...
@ Dave and Ray ..... ** Laughing here ***
I usually get up much later on weekends and catching up quickly on issues in Guyana.
It is about 12:15 here.
I don't know how this will turn out. I'm sure the Brooklyners and their allies the Democratic Party are working a way around the Guyana constitution.
@Former Member dat loud mout lameta TK lass year seh those who control de military can bend and twiss dem own constitution of dem lord Burnham (and coolie crabdaag Shahab) constitution. Dem gat real powah. Dem mek de constitution and dem cyan bruck and bend it up when dem want. Why? Because dem control de military and de public sector. Is de Tanzania constitution wah Shahab use foh dem god Burnham...hey hey hey. PPP is caretaker and can use de constitution but dem cyant bruck it and bend it. Dem try in 2015 but dem bais give dem de marchin order...hey hey hey. Now dat is what yuh call Guyana blackman privilage. Hey hey hey...dem one lovers...hey hey hey.
I am glad that Justice George is hearing this case. Hopefully she is still fair.
My uncle just told me she is a canje gurl, so let we hope she wrap up before six a clack.
Trini lawyer sound sharp.
Mendes is very articulate. He crushed Williams fools at the CCJ trial
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MESSAGE FROM THE ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF GEORGETOWN ON THE CURRENT SITUATION IN GUYANA.
People are dying, people are being wounded, children are being traumatized, property is being destroyed, the nation is gripped in fear. This is much too high a cost for a national election and for a nation at any time. There are no words strong enough to express the gravity of the situation and the urgency for it to end.
To all accounts the way forward for the restoration of peace and hope rests with a small group of persons who have been tasked with managing the whole election process.
I add my voice to the many others in making strong appeal to the Guyana Elections Commission to expeditiously complete the verification process towards the transparent, formal and lawful declaration of results.
Meanwhile, let us keep our heads above the fray and not let the words of our national pledge fall empty â âĶ to be loyal to my country, to be obedient to the laws of Guyana, to love my fellow citizens and to dedicate my energies towards the happiness and prosperity of Guyanaâ. This is something that we can all do.
May God Bless Guyana.
Francis Alleyne OSB
Bishop of Georgetown
Received from the Catholic standard âĪ
See full statement from French Ambassador to Guyana, Antoine Joly:
France wishes to express its deep concern at the situation in Guyana after the elections which had taken place in good conditions until the results of region 4 were announced without completing the tabulation.
It calls, on behalf of excellent bilateral relations, for a spirit of conciliation and a sense of general interest in favor of all Guyanese.
It supports the unanimous request of the electoral observation missions, including EU, which request a resumption of the counting process verified from the statements of polling.
France warns against any hasty initiative aiming for the president to be sworn in until this verified count has been completed.
Only this procedure will ensure a legitimate, democratically acceptable process and avoid the clashes which unfortunately have already started in different places in Guyana.
Antoine Joly
French Ambassador in Guyana and Suriname
The country Bleeds And Weep While This SOB is Happily Celebrating Birthday.
President David Granger on Saturday morning attended the 75th birth anniversary celebration for Bishop John Smith, CCH of the Central Assembly of God Church, a brief statement from the Ministry of the Presidency noted.
The event was held at the Ramada Princess Hotel, Providence, East Bank Demerara.
Bishop Smith is also the Chairman of the Ethnic Relations Commission (ERC).
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