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Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.

asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?

asj, if you were to go back in various threads you'll see your one and only nincompoop Albert who started and is still doing exactly what you complain of.
He constantly spams the board and no one says boo to him.

As moderator I think that's your job, so let's be fair about this.

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Originally posted by cain:
asj, if you were to go back in various threads you'll see your one and only nincompoop Albert who started and is still doing exactly what you complain of.
He constantly spams the board and no one says boo to him.

As moderator I think that's your job, so let's be fair about this.

He rass is a nincompoop moderator.

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.

asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?

GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.

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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.

asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?

GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.

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ASJ look at what the PPP paid posters are doing plastering the AFC threads. You are a moderator so you do not need to complain to Admin.

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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.

asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?

GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.

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What is wrong with responding with a poster supporting your candidate of choice?

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Originally posted by sachin_05:

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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.

asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?

GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.

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What is wrong with responding with a poster supporting your candidate of choice?

I do not see anything wrong with that, but if I were to do the same with GR every post, he will detest same.......No? It cuts both ways the choice is yours either you stop or I retaliate in kind.
Better yet start your own post and showcase your candidate. The ball is in your court.

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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by sachin_05:

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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.

asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?

GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.

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What is wrong with responding with a poster supporting your candidate of choice?

I do not see anything wrong with that, but if I were to do the same with GR every post, he will detest same.......No? It cuts both ways the choice is yours either you stop or I retaliate in kind.
Better yet start your own post and showcase your candidate. The ball is in your court.

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Last time I checked this is a public political forum with set of rules which I did not break, unless otherwise stated Guyanese people are free to support/promote candidate of choice.

As for sanctioning GR for what I posted, I think its childish....

Since the beginning of GNI, moderators had been biased about one thing or another.

In this case, it is totally unfair to posters with different views from the moderator, to have a fair say.

A person either remain the moderator of the political forum or drop their membership of their specific political party, because they cannot do both functions and remain neutral to all concerned.

If this is not done, my [long-time] personal opinion of the GNI website remains : The PPP government has a strong influence on this website.

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Significant improvement in health sector – Mid-Year report

-huge sums go towards capacity building

September 3, 2011

The health sector continues to advance with the addition of state-of-the-art institutions and trained personnel to man the institutions, with the aim of bettering health care services provided to citizens. To ensure that this is achieved, $7.2B of the $14B allocated to the sector, was expended for the first half of 2011.

According to a Mid-Year report presented by Finance Minister Dr. Ashni Singh on Thursday in the National Assembly, the levels of expenditure have aided in the acceleration of the implementation of the national health programmes.
To further strengthen the skilled workforce and human resource system within the health sector, about $121M has been expended to further enhance health care professionals. This saw approximately 150 clinical and technical health personnel graduate in key field for the first half of this year alone.
The individuals have since been deployed to various health institutions countrywide, while an additional 28 clinical coordinators from remote areas and 42 tutors and part-time lecturers benefited from capacity building workshops to improve their skills.
In addition, 157 health professionals completed the Management Development Programme, while 14 health science tutors from across the three nursing schools completed the Health Science Management Programme.
Efforts are moving apace to merge the professional nurses and midwifery curricula into a single curriculum. While there are over 920 students in training, the Ministry of Health intends to train another 135 professional nurses, 1790 nursing assistants and 120 clinical and technical personnel to complement the growing demand for quality health care provided.
A new Maternal, Perinatal Strategy and Integrated Child Health Strategy 2011-2015 has been completed, while the Health Qual initiative has been extended to 21 health facilities including HIV and MCH wellness sites.
This is expected to be complemented by the nutrition education sessions conducted at 35 health clinics in Regions 3, 4 and 5 benefiting some 7,000 people.
The first half of the year also saw the sector expanding the cervical cancer screening programme through its mobile clinics countrywide.
About 1,450 women benefitted from VIA screening at the 17 locations across the country, for this year alone.
The Health Ministry will be taking the VIA screening services to the Lethem Hospital, East La Penitence and Dorothy Bailey Health Centres in the second half of 2011.
Government continues to place emphasis on health facilities across the country, expending over $227M for the construction, rehabilitation and maintenance of health facilities in the first half of the year.
This includes the construction of the new 214 bed in-patient facility which is expected to be completed shortly and the new emergency ward at the Fort Wellington Hospital. Additionally, works are ongoing on the general improvement of the water distribution and electrical systems at the maternity and medical buildings at the West Demerara Regional Hospital.
While works to expand the maternity ward at the Georgetown Public Hospital has commenced, a new waste disposal facility will also be implemented shortly and will be utilized by all surrounding hospitals.
The design specification for the 150 bed specialty hospital is also being finalized.

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ASJ,the profile of the owners of some the houses in region 6, could it be something like this.......

Husband: Cane cutter
Wife: sell veggys at the market
Four children going to school.
Transportation by old bicycle and taxi on the public road.
Wealth: Recently won the lottery.

Did I miss anything ?

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We have been looking at houses in the Tuschen Housing Scheme on the West Coast of Demerara:

A look at Diamond Housing Scheme on the East Bank of Demerara will showcase similar type houses.

Then going back to the West Bank of Demerara at La Harmonie Parfaite, House of similar stature can be seen.

There are also many other areas on the East Coast of Demerara, where new Housing Schemes are shooting up regularly, making Guyana looks flourishingly beautiful.

Later maybe we will presents Houses in the Sparendaam Area.

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ASJ,the profile of the owners of some the houses in region 6, could it be something like this.......

Husband: Cane cutter
Wife: sell veggys at the market
Four children going to school.
Transportation by old bicycle and taxi on the public road.
Wealth: Recently won the lottery.

Did I miss anything ?

Bai Tola, there can be many explanations, lets see if I can correspond with your discriptions

Husband: Cane Cutter in Guyana for a number of years, went to Barbados cut canes there as well for many years
Wife : Sell veggies at the district market, at the same time having a chicken pen at her old house rearing chickens
Four Children going to school: kindergarden, kindergarden, Primary School, and Secondary School
Wealth : Well this is where we disagree, they have not won the lottery, but lifetime of savings,
and loan from the Bank and then maybe a relative or two sending a small piece now and again.

And what do we have.........Another Guyanese dreams materialized...Thanks to the PPP/C

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500 receive house lots at Uitvlugt One Stop Shop

BY MICHAEL YOUNGE

“ Affordable housing for all, establishing sustainable communities” is the theme under which the Housing Ministry and its Central Housing and Planning Authority staged the eighth One Stop Shop on Friday that saw around 500 persons receiving house lots.

Addressing hundreds gathered at the Uitvlugt Community Centre Ground, Housing and Water Minister Irfaan Ali stated that government believes in the equitable distribution of resources, wealth and development.

He argued that, despite the misinformation peddled by critics, his ministry remains committed to ensuring that all Guyanese accomplish the dream of owning a home.

“ We are going to work steadfast to ensure that we help Guyanese meet that dream of owning a house lot, because there is empowerment both socially and economically derived when this occurs,” Ali said.

Ali explained that the investment at Zeelugt is testimony to this resolve, and was brought forward by two years at minimum because of the growing demand for housing in Region Three and across the country. He said that the new Zeelugt Housing Scheme would have benefited from comprehen sive development, and soon residents who take up occupancy will realise that light, water and roads are already in place in certain parts. “ We have already advanced 60 million dollars to GPL for them to begin the installation of electricity network, because we want to make the process easier for new home owners”, Ali explained.

The housing minister reported that there are many challenges in getting the housing scheme up and running, with respect to works done by the contractor. He informed those present that his ministry has already instituted liquidation damages for the delays experienced because of the contractor. “ I want to send a public message to all of the contractors that work with us, using this incident as an example, because we don’t only expect good quality work, but also we expect contractors to deliver within their contractual stipulations,” a stern Ali announced.

He reported that the housing sector generally continued to benefit from large sums of investment and funding from the public’s purse. Minister Ali noted that the investment is significant but there is still a lot of work to be done. He related that the occupancy rates is growing countrywide as more Guyanese are given the ability to own their own homes. “ All of this could have never been possible without the hard work of committed and dedicated staff. I am cognizant that it’s not about government, but rather it’s about you, the people, because we are working to improve your lives”, Ali said emotively.

Meanwhile, Chief Executive Officer of the Central Housing and Planning Authority, Myrna Pitt, explained that the ministry continues to work assiduously towards improving the delivery of housing to Guyanese to match the increasing demand. She urged Zeelugt residents to make the most of the One Stop Shop experience, as the ministry had teamed up with its respective housing and development partners, citing the banks that were present.

“ We are working with our partners to ensure that the housing delivery process is as efficient as possible, since home ownership is a lifechanging undertaking”, Pitt suggested.

Pitt explained that, already, the Housing Ministry has achieved 50 per cent of its set target for 2011, and there is no doubt in her mind that the same trend would continue until all targets are met. She was convinced that the lives of Guyanese continue to be uniquely impacted as the housing transformation takes place.

Each lot developed costs the government approximately $ 650,000. Over the last 10 years, government has invested more than 23 billion dollars in the housing sector in Region Three. In addition, an estimated 23,000 house lots have been distributed and created in the region, which saw more than 94,000 Guyanese becoming land and home owners.

The occupancy rates have been increased, according to statistics provided by the Central Housing and Planning Authority.

House lots have been made available and distributed at Leonora, Tuschen, and Bell West. Another 1000 house lots will be handed out for phase two of the Zeelugt Housing Scheme.

Also present at the One Stop Shop was Region Three Chairman Julius Faerber, who appealed for more regional One Stop Shops, noting the demand for housing in the region.


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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard

Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.

1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.

2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.

I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.

And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.

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asj, there are no contractors involved. These people are paid by the Gov't. Indeed, some cleaners do not work all day, but that depends on how many there are per school. If there are a few, obviously the hours would be longer. asj, these people are required to come to work everyday, so regardless of how many hours they work, they must be given the minimum wage at least. Other Gov't employees who receive the minimum wage often don't work all day either. And what are the sums we are talking about? It is US$160 per month! Come on asj, be reasonable here.

Further, a caring Ministry of Education would have seen to it that the cleaner-sweepers get involved in other activities so as to boost their pay. Those with some amount of education could be given work in the school office, or they be offered the option to sell snacks in the school yard or run the school canteen. How can the Gov't be so uncaring and unconscionable? This is a needed service we are speaking about here, and it includes heavy work such as lifting and moving benches, tables and chairs. A private firm would cost so much more, asj.

Here is what Ramjattan said: "...such a directive effectively serves as the basis for paying sweeper-cleaners, despite their many years of service, half of the minimum wage, and denying them the benefits associated with the public service categorization. Ramjatan stated that, “The AFC has also noted that the Ministry of Finance in executing such a directive would override the authority of the RDC by sending such instructions to the Regional Executive Officer (REO) who, in contravention of the stipulation of the constitution, functions also as the Chief Finance Officer. The REO (it should be underscored) is an officer within the authority of the Council.” “This practice can certainly be deemed ultra vires the dictates of the Local Democratic Organs Act, which stipulates that the State may delegate any of its authority to a Local Democratic Organ and not to staff within that Organ,” he added. “As a result of this dire situation, teachers have had to resort to soliciting monies from parents to pay sweeper-cleaners. A duty that rightfully belongs to the State,” Ramjatan asserted emphatically.

http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/84420015051

Hi GR, your scanned second document points out that "Please be reminded that sweepers/cleaners for schools are contracted service providers and should be reflected under chart of accounts 6284"
Now if I were to follow this, I would get a different understanding from your point of "asj, there are no contractors involved." further this was a directive issued by Government that all janitors/sweepers would not be intitled to the minimun wages.
It is surprising that you say that most janitors/sweepers works eight hours or more per day, during my time in school it was customary for janitors/sweepers to come in to school after classes are finished for the day.......given that they comes in at 4.00 pm, I do not think that I can remember that they work longer than 7.00 pm......which makes it three hours per day.
It would be interesting to know what Janitors/Sweepers do within the eight hours that you say they worked. Also it would be interesting to know that workers who receives a minimum wage who does not work for eight hours?

If the Government were to give in to the AFC demands, (The AFC are in no position to demand) then it could have an effect with the other minimum wage earners.

I would love to see Janitors/Sweepers receives the minimum wages, but then as all wages increased goes.....it has to be negiotiated, if something is wrong with the system, then corrective measures would need to be the outcome.......it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.

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asj, marnin . You haven't read through what I wrote at all. I did say that in most cases they would not be working 8 hours, depending on how many cleaners are employed. Your point about contractors is still moot. It is the Gov't that has contracted these people, therefore they ought to be given the minimum wage, which I emphasise again, is a mere US$161 per month. I went on to say that there were other things the Gov't could negotiate to ensure that 8 hours of work are available to these people. Jobs are scarce in Guyana, asj, and these are mostly mothers seeking work, often they are single parents too. How can you have Gail Texeira getting $880,000 (US$4,400) and Odinga Lumumba $660,000 (US$3,300) on the one hand, and workers in the education sector receiving $15,800 (US$79) on the other? Come on asj, I respect your right to support the PPP, but do you truly support what is happening in this specific situation?

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it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.

Do you understand what you have said here asj? Should poor people have to be fearful, hand in tiger mouth - your words asj, not mine - of a working class Gov't? The houses you so prominently display in this thread that you so obviously are proud of, do you know how much they cost?

I gather you won't care much that the mostly African-Guyanese are the ones earning the least under the Gov't, given your stance on the cleaner-sweepers issue you didn't answer above. But asj, are you aware too that many Indians also cannot afford these homes? Apart from Plastic City, have you seen many of the other homes all across the country that Indians live in? Uncle Tola can tell you about those.

Just like how the PPPites like to knock our support in the diaspora, despite the diaspora having played a meaningful role in getting the PPP back in power in 1992, you can be accused of being out of touch with what takes place. This thread alone is ample evidence, asj. But carry on, please don't stop on account of me, this is same manner the PNC in 1992 plastered themselves all over the place, annoying the people even more by being in their faces, especially the poorer classes, and hardening the resistance.

Your urinating on my threads doesn't bother me in the least. I asked you the questions to give you a chance rethink your position which I know to have been a knee-jerk reaction, and you have spoken and acted accordingly. Now I know exactly where you stand. And that is fine be me. Have a good night, asj.

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj:

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard

Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.

1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.

2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.

I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.

And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.

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asj, there are no contractors involved. These people are paid by the Gov't. Indeed, some cleaners do not work all day, but that depends on how many there are per school. If there are a few, obviously the hours would be longer. asj, these people are required to come to work everyday, so regardless of how many hours they work, they must be given the minimum wage at least. Other Gov't employees who receive the minimum wage often don't work all day either. And what are the sums we are talking about? It is US$160 per month! Come on asj, be reasonable here.

Further, a caring Ministry of Education would have seen to it that the cleaner-sweepers get involved in other activities so as to boost their pay. Those with some amount of education could be given work in the school office, or they be offered the option to sell snacks in the school yard or run the school canteen. How can the Gov't be so uncaring and unconscionable? This is a needed service we are speaking about here, and it includes heavy work such as lifting and moving benches, tables and chairs. A private firm would cost so much more, asj.

Here is what Ramjattan said: "...such a directive effectively serves as the basis for paying sweeper-cleaners, despite their many years of service, half of the minimum wage, and denying them the benefits associated with the public service categorization. Ramjatan stated that, “The AFC has also noted that the Ministry of Finance in executing such a directive would override the authority of the RDC by sending such instructions to the Regional Executive Officer (REO) who, in contravention of the stipulation of the constitution, functions also as the Chief Finance Officer. The REO (it should be underscored) is an officer within the authority of the Council.” “This practice can certainly be deemed ultra vires the dictates of the Local Democratic Organs Act, which stipulates that the State may delegate any of its authority to a Local Democratic Organ and not to staff within that Organ,” he added. “As a result of this dire situation, teachers have had to resort to soliciting monies from parents to pay sweeper-cleaners. A duty that rightfully belongs to the State,” Ramjatan asserted emphatically.

http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/84420015051

Hi GR, your scanned second document points out that "Please be reminded that sweepers/cleaners for schools are contracted service providers and should be reflected under chart of accounts 6284"
Now if I were to follow this, I would get a different understanding from your point of "asj, there are no contractors involved." further this was a directive issued by Government that all janitors/sweepers would not be intitled to the minimun wages.
It is surprising that you say that most janitors/sweepers works eight hours or more per day, during my time in school it was customary for janitors/sweepers to come in to school after classes are finished for the day.......given that they comes in at 4.00 pm, I do not think that I can remember that they work longer than 7.00 pm......which makes it three hours per day.
It would be interesting to know what Janitors/Sweepers do within the eight hours that you say they worked. Also it would be interesting to know that workers who receives a minimum wage who does not work for eight hours?

If the Government were to give in to the AFC demands, (The AFC are in no position to demand) then it could have an effect with the other minimum wage earners.

I would love to see Janitors/Sweepers receives the minimum wages, but then as all wages increased goes.....it has to be negiotiated, if something is wrong with the system, then corrective measures would need to be the outcome.......it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.

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asj, marnin . You haven't read through what I wrote at all. I did say that in most cases they would not be working 8 hours, depending on how many cleaners are employed. Your point about contractors is still moot. It is the Gov't that has contracted these people, therefore they ought to be given the minimum wage, which I emphasise again, is a mere US$161 per month. I went on to say that there were other things the Gov't could negotiate to ensure that 8 hours of work are available to these people. Jobs are scarce in Guyana, asj, and these are mostly mothers seeking work, often they are single parents too. How can you have Gail Texeira getting $880,000 (US$4,400) and Odinga Lumumba $660,000 (US$3,300) on the one hand, and workers in the education sector receiving $15,800 (US$79) on the other? Come on asj, I respect your right to support the PPP, but do you truly support what is happening in this specific situation?

Hi GR, I get scared when I am presented with a lengthy report , but I have read what you have written, just that on some of the points, I prefer not to give an opinion. On the issue of Janitors/Sweepers, like I said "I would love to see Janitors/Sweepers receives the minimum wages, but then as all wages increase goes.....it has to be negiotiated, if something is wrong with the system, then corrective measures would need to be the outcome, it would be welcome to know that if negotiations can results in having these workers perform 8 hours work for the minimun wages. If that can be arranged then I would fully support your effort in trying to get some more dollars for these workers, as $15,800 is very meagre to live on.

Hmmm (US$65,000 x 200 = GY$13,000,000.00 per year) Think that they should get more? Just kidding.

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THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA



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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?

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THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA



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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?

Cain if you have a plot of land and you want to build a house like this the one in this picture, an apporox cost might run you up to like about US$10,000 to 13,000.

But if you want A/C's, Furinishings, Appliances and other frills, then the NIS building in Berbice will give you an idea of what it can run up to.

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Equal access to modern technology for all Guyanese being unwaveringly supported by PPP/C gov’t
Saturday, 03 September 2011

The Government of Guyana has taken another very im­portant step to ensure that all the people of this country have equal access to one of the most modern technolo­gies today – the computer.

This forward-look­ing position was taken by the PPP/C administration some time ago to provide a laptop computer to every family who cannot afford one. This measure will ensure that not only the rich will be able to use a computer, but the poor and economically disadvan­taged would not be left out. They, too, will be able to develop their skills and have access to information on an equal footing.

On August 31, 2011, Head of the Presidential Secretariat and Cabinet Sec­retary, Dr Roger Luncheon, announced that a highly-reputable Chinese company, Haier Electrical Appliances Limited, has won the bid to supply the first batch, which will be 27,000 laptops.

It is estimated that some 90,000 laptops will be distributed to families across Guyana.

Meanwhile, Guy­ana is now on course to lead the Caribbean in having the most modern and educated society.

Already, we are pioneers as we are the only country in the region that has established a Learning Chan­nel to supplement teaching in schools and to give adults who did not complete their secondary education to study at home.

The government has also invested heavily in Information Technology and the fibre optic cable from Brazil is moving apace.

This will open up even more possibilities of Guyanese having access to a university education online.

The heavy invest­ment in human resources will no doubt lay great divi­dends as investments to take advantage of a talented and educated work force will certainly flow.
The initiatives im­plemented by the PPP/Civic administration for Guyana’s continued acceleration to world heights has been bold and exciting.

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MORE HOUSE LOTS FOR DISTRIBUTIONS

Written by Chevon Singh

Tuesday, 06 September 2011 02:02

Young people praise Government for life transforming allocation

GROUND-BREAKING, life-changing and transformational, were just a few of the words used by some of the hundreds of new house lot recipients to describe the impact of last Friday’s ‘One Stop Shop’ at the Uitvlugt Community Centre, West Coast Demerara in Region Three (Essequibo Islands/West Demerara).
Of the 500 applications that were processed, for middle and low-income lots at Zeelugt, on East Bank Essequibo, 150 of those were allotted to young persons below the age of 30 years.
The fact that such single Guyanese men and women now have a chance at home ownership reaffirms the Government’s commitment to meeting the dream of every single Guyanese in owning a home and their recognition of the critical role that housing plays in transforming people’s lives, said minister with the portfolio, Mr. Irfaan Ali.
During the activity, he also reiterated the pledge of the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) to increase and advance social development of the country, through accessibility to basic facilities, including housing, education, sanitation, roads, water and electricity, without disparity.
According to Ali, this growth will be accelerated through the distribution of a further 500 lots in the existing Zeelugt Scheme, to cater for the demand in the region.
As to the extent of the investment already made in this regard, he stated: “If one is to look at the investment at Zeelugt, we would have invested more than $460M. It would bring benefits to almost 3,500 persons directly and, of course, if you look at the average cost per household, or house lot, we are talking about $650, 000.”
Housing is a major sector in Region Three and, over the past decade, more than $23 billion were invested in it, creating 23,000 lots and benefiting some 94,000 Guyanese.
However, for the recipients of the lots, the value of this investment supercedes the financial aspect, to include a more intrinsic benefit, an improved quality of life, said 22-year-old Randolph Chintamani.
“That moment when I collected the papers to show that I now own a house lot, I was really excited and happy. I am single and so, for me, this is just the push I need in life to get started,” he acknowledged.
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Chintamani said that, as a result of the ‘One Stop Shop’ initiative of the Housing Ministry, it has now become easier for Guyanese, especially young persons to have a stake in their country, something that was unheard of in the past.
“Before this, young, single people did not meet the requirements or the criteria for this. Look at us now, in a few years from today, I will have a permanent place to call my home and for this I want to say thank you to this Government,” he remarked.
For 24-year-old Abigail Constantine, five years of waiting has culminated in an overwhelming day, at the end of which she was on her way to independence and home ownership.
She declared: “It was a big relief when I got the phone call … this is very good what the Government is doing for young people, a life-changing moment.”
Another recipient, Ercy Amsterdam, as well, expressed gratitude to the Government and the Ministry of Housing for giving young, single people a chance to improve their station in life.
The 34-year-old admitted that, as a result of her allocation, she can now start a family of her own.
According to the Chief Executive Officer at the Central Housing and Planning Authority (CH&PA), Ms. Myrna Pitt, the consolidated partnership of public/private entities, has contributed greatly to the improvement of the quality of life for Guyanese, since home ownership and its benefits impact significantly on the social and economic life of the nation and on individuals.
Friday’s One Stop Shop was the eighth such hosted by the ministry for the year and accounts for in excess of 50 per cent of the ministry’s target for 2011.

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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?

Cain if you have a plot of land and you want to build a house like this the one in this picture, an apporox cost might run you up to like about US$10,000 to 13,000.

But if you want A/C's, Furinishings, Appliances and other frills, then the NIS building in Berbice will give you an idea of what it can run up to.

asj, this house will cost no less than US$50,000 to build - in fact I would safely put it at US$60,000. Please note that the yard has been raised as well - a necessary requirement given the poor or non-functioning NDCs, and the consequent poor or non-existent drainage.

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THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA



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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?

Cain if you have a plot of land and you want to build a house like this the one in this picture, an apporox cost might run you up to like about US$10,000 to 13,000.

But if you want A/C's, Furinishings, Appliances and other frills, then the NIS building in Berbice will give you an idea of what it can run up to.

asj, this house will cost no less than US$50,000 to build - in fact I would safely put it at US$60,000. Please note that the yard has been raised as well - a necessary requirement given the poor or non-functioning NDCs, and the consequent poor or non-existent drainage.

GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.

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Originally posted by asj: GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.

The house in question is two storey, with a structure in front and overhead trestle and two large black tanks - look at the quality of the gate and fence also. These things give you an idea of the internal costs too, meaning the doors and inner grill-work. It's elementary, Watson

The NIS and the other buildings are bungalows. Apples and Oranges, asj.

Take it easy

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Originally posted by asj: GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.

The house in question is two storey, with a structure in front and overhead trestle and two large black tanks - look at the quality of the gate and fence also. These things give you an idea of the internal costs too, meaning the doors and inner grill-work. It's elementary, Watson

The NIS and the other buildings are bungalows. Apples and Oranges, asj.

Take it easy

The reason why my estimates were doubled from G$ 6 Mil to 13 Mil. What I am saying is that if I were to build a house like that, then I think that 13 Mil would be sufficient.

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

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Originally posted by asj: GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.

The house in question is two storey, with a structure in front and overhead trestle and two large black tanks - look at the quality of the gate and fence also. These things give you an idea of the internal costs too, meaning the doors and inner grill-work. It's elementary, Watson

The NIS and the other buildings are bungalows. Apples and Oranges, asj.

Take it easy

The reason why my estimates were doubled from G$ 6 Mil to 13 Mil. What I am saying is that if I were to build a house like that, then I think that 13 Mil would be sufficient.

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And that gives US$65,000. So we are saying the same thing

But in regard to the NIS building, 69M or US$345,000 is most ridiculous, by any stretch of the imagination.

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SM like you vocab level is below nursery level...

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SM like you vocab is below nursery level...

. Housing

2010

 Over $9.6 billion was expended in the housing sector in 2010

 Allocated of 6,331 house lots as well as the distributed 4,591 land titles surpassing our targets of 5,500 house lots and 3,750 land titles

 $343.7 million was expended over the last year for the successful completion of a $2.2 billion housing project which has realised the construction and upgrading of roads, drains and structures benefiting 4,636 lots in areas such as Cummings Lodge C&Y, Sophia, Westminster, Belle West, Glasgow and Onderneeming.

 $680 million was spent on the construction of roads, drains and structures in areas such as Block 8 Mon Repos, Plantation Schoonord, Anna Catherina, Hope Estate

2011

 $3.6 billion is allocated to the housing sector to facilitate the development of housing schemes which is expected to result in the allocation of 7,500 house lots and the processing and distribution of 4,000 land titles.

 $700 million will be spent on improving the road network and water distribution systems to the benefit approximately 1,500 households.

 Under the Second Low Income Settlement Programme, 148 core houses are expected to be completed