carib:

* You love throwing the word "RACIST" around.

* Lemme educate you a bit.

* Most people are not racist. They are prejudiced.

* EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET IS PREJUDICED.

* You are either prejudiced in favor of something or prejudiced against something.

* In Guyana, for example, blacks are prejudiced in favor of the PNC and prejudiced against the PPP.

* But being prejudiced against the PPP doesn't make blacks racists.

* LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING PREJUDICED AND BEING RACIST CARIB.

BOTTOM LINE:

* The Rev maintains that racism is not widespread in Guyana. What you have is a MISTRUST of the PNC by a large percentage of Indians.

Rev

Straight up unintellectual bulshi.t. The pathology is not the disease. What ever consolidated the idea of racism in Indians against blacks is  profound, historical, and seamless from the turn of the century to the present. The  discourse on the matter pervades the birthing of the state.

It is the text and subtext of any analysis of our political reality by scholars of every kind since the lived and know the context. There is hardly any political or, literary work or analysis of us as a people that is absent that ever present view that racism of the worse sort exist and thrive in our reality.

To stupidly ignore the long tradition of ethnic animosity  that fueled an already latent tradition among Indians to create internal others as mere "mistrust" masks its enduring toxicity in  our society. Racism exists. Its virulence can be seen clearly in your manner and expressions here...that is if  you did not tell us so directly.

* SOME FOLKS LIKE DANYAEL, CARIB AND THE INDIANS WHO SUPPORT THE PNC/AFC TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN PLAYING THE RACE CARD.

* But the TRUTH is, there is no rampant racism in Guyana. What is prevalent in the country is MISTRUST for the PNC.

Rev

Come on Mits. We know that we have seen Indians living in worse houses than these. Have you ever seen a squatting area? All races in Guyana experience some form of poverty.

Dum dum, with all of that grandiose pronouncement of you intellectual exceptionalism  you ought to do more than make the declarative statement and that mistrust is all there is. The more acutely tuned mind would begin with a definition and procede to elaborate on the theme and then give us a succent reason for t he mistrust.

Lacking anything of substance you do that you do best....post bullshit slogans  and nothing else. Get it, were any to enter the halls of intellect they would not meet you. Relentless expression of gross stupidity would have on its own accord revoked your permission to enter.

Dayyael:

* Pay attention!

* EAST INDIANS IN GUYANA TRUST IN THEIR MISTRUST OF THE PNC.

* Of course, people should never mistrust unless they have a valid reason to mistrust.

* THE GOOD PEOPLE HAVE VALID REASONS TO MISTRUST THE PNC.

* The PNC after ruling Guyana illicitly for 28 years and bankrupting the nation, they have given people in Guyana thousands of reasons to keep MISTRUSTING them.

* Of course, the Danyaels and Caribs and the East Indians who voted for the PNC would vehemently disagree with the Rev and continue doing what they do best:

* BAWL AND SCREAM AND SHOUT RACIST AND RACISM.

* There is no blatant RACISM in Guyana folks---only MISTRUST.

 Rev

AN EXAMPLE OF THE GUYANESE PEOPLE MISTRUSTING THE PNC/AFC

One does not pay attention to nonsense. Ravi dev had an essay called the aetiology of violence that sought to explain the distrust between the groups and ended up peddling the usual crap. At least he had the good sense to admit racism exists. You are not even halfway to his competency level so paying attention to you would be a monumental waste of time. You are selling what anyone can box if the have a box...air.

* Ravi Dev is a 3rd rate intellect---attended some 3rd rate law school in New Jersey or someplace---he couldn't make it in the United States---so he returned to Guyana to peddle his nonsense.

* RAVI DEV WAS ROUNDLY IGNORED BY THE GUYANESE PEOPLE.

* Like you Danyael---Ravi was just a blabbermouth---fully of bluster and hogwash.

* What is Ravi doing these days ? Planting rice ? That's good!

Rev

Ravi was taken more seriously by the people than you and your ilk

Jokes:

* In case you forgot---my bwoy Donald is President.

* Where is that blabbermouth Ravi Dev these days ? Planting rice ?

Rev

I am happy to be a blabber mouth if you are what we are to aspire to become.

At least ravi is a maven with words and has a keen mind to detail his precepts and argue them to a conclusion. To date all you do is  live in 'toon time and plaster us with stupid slogans and vacuous phrases.

There you go again commenting on the school the man attended and not the mans work.  It is in his work you would find the existence of his being.

The fact that you totally disregard the views of the majority of blacks in Guyana who have clearly indicated that they don't trust the PPP says something about you.

Your concern is clearly limited to that of Indians.  If you think that the concerns of Indians merit more priority than those of blacks, and you refuse to be open to the concerns of blacks ask yourself whether you really want a solution to the problem.

Note to you and the PPP.  You cannot run a nation by running roughshed over a large % of the population.  And you do once you have the notion that they ought to accept what ever you tell them to accept.

Now ponder about what that makes you, but its clear that you have no interest in what blacks have to say, so you are a blatant liar when you claim that you wish honest dialogue.

Danyael:

* Ravi's "words" impressed you ?

* Listen!

* GREAT TALKERS LIKE RAVI DEV ARE LITTLE DOERS

* Ravi couldn't make it here in the US, so he returned to Guyana and dreamed of being President.

* RAVI DEV FAILED MISERABLY.

* No question Ravi has tons of ideas---he's well read---but ideas are vast---DOERS ARE SCARCE----Ravi is no DOER---Ravi failed big time when it came to DOING.

* By the way, Ramotar is not a TALKER----but he is PRESIDENT---and next election he will be re-elected President.

Rev

Dont care how you label it.  Just understand that the majority of blacks have no more trust in being led by an Indian gov't than do the majority of Indians have in ebing led by the PPP.  Not only that, but this tension has led to Guyana failing to live up to its potential.  Even as much smaller and less resourced  fellow Caribbean countries encounter a serious recession, they are still able to deliver a higher standard of living for tha majority of their people than that available in Guyana.

Use any measure of progress and Guyana lags. Start with the fact that only 60% of the population are legally connected to the electric grid, vs, over 90% in almost every other CARiCOM nation.

Neitehr Rev nor Ramotar have indicated any solutions for our ethnic morass.  And that is because BOTH of you decide to ignore the fact that almost all African and mixed voters consider the PPP to be a racist, corrupt, and incompetent bunch of crony capitalist intent in stealing from the tax payers to enrich themselves and their friends.

And the thing is even you admit that as many as 20% of the Indian voters now share this view.  Indeed we are increasingly hearing Indian voices talking about the blatant discrimination by the PPP against blacks.

What the hell is it to "make it in the us"? That is so stupid an accusation that it's source could onlyh be you. Ravy never impressed me because like you he was a racist except he was more suave and discursive in  his rationalizing. You are just stupid. One scholar noted that only the ignorant can hope to capture the multidimensional aspects of racism in a sentence. Those pursuing such brevity and accessibility sacrifices understanding for the formulaic and end up missing the point. You give us one word "mistrust"! Surely that is the epitome of the absurd

carib:

* THERE IS NO ETHNIC MORASS IN GUYANA.

* In your addled and bewildered mind you may manufacture chaos, confusion and quagmire among the various ethnic groups. But the fact is the races in Guyana live very peacefully.

* Listen! The only East Indians who are displeased with the direction of Guyana, and bawl and scream corruption and racism daily, are the 21% who voted for the PNC/AFC.

* BUT 79% OF EAST INDIANS ARE SATISFIED WITH THE PPP.

* Regarding black Guyanese----80% MISTRUST the PPP---but only about 25% of blacks  feel the same hatred as the 21% East Indians who hate the PPP.

BOTTOM LINE:

* There is no ETHNIC MORASS in Guyana----you have HATERS who will always hate----and they are in the minority---21% Indians and 25% blacks.

Rev

All last week it is about those hateful Cuffys etc who should never rule again given their compulsion to violence, mayhem and quarrel  except for the hateful ( why do they hate) and the distrustful ( why do the distrust). You are a self contradictory fool so nothing you say has meaning.

So let the PNC take over then.

Ah ha YOUR ethnic paranoia just came out when I mentioned that possibility.

So why do you think that ethnic paranoia among blacks isnt alive and kicking for the reason that many no longer see the electoral process as a way to end the misery caused by the PPP, and have become disenchanted that the PNC is a relevant factor in helping them solve their problems?

No "ah be pan tap" and that is all that is important to you.

Even you admit that 90% of the blacks dislike the PPP, so where does your 25% number come from?

carib:

* PAY ATTENTION!

* 79% of East Indians MISTRUST the PNC----they voted for the PPP in 2011.

* 80% of Blacks MISTRUST the PPP---they voted for the PNC in 2011

* Now! Assuming Blacks made up 41% of the 342,236 votes in the 2011 election.

* That means total black voters in 2011 = 140,316

* Of that 140,316 black voters---the PNC got 80% = 112,252

* YUH STILL FOLLOWING ME CARIB ?

* Of that 112,252 blacks who voted for the PNC---those who MISTRUST the PPP----it 's fair to ASSUME that 25% HATE the PPP with a passion.

* 25% of 112,252 = 28,063

* THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF BLACK PEOPLE IN GUYANA WHO HATE THE PPP---28,063----they are the ones who will bawl and scream and shout RACISM.

BOTTOM LINE:

* THERE IS NO ETHNIC MORASS IN GUYANA---Ethnic morass exists only in your deluded headed Caribny.

Rev

You are so predictable, but I must concede you are a simpleton rass with class.

Surely, your childish illustrations underscore some measure of creativity, Rev.

And, instead of being angry with you, I'm relishing your posts replete with unrelenting amusement value.

* That represents the East Indians who MISTRUST the PPP.

* Assume a 45% Indian turnout in the 2011 election = 166,340 Indian votes.

* The 21% = 34,931

* So 34,931 Indians MISTRUST the PPP.

* Of that 34,931---it is fair to assume 50% HATE the PPP = 17,465

DO THE MATH:

* 28,063 blacks hate the PPP---they bawl RACISM.

* 17,465 Indians hate the PPP---they bawl RACISM

* 28,063 + 17,465 = 45,528 HATERS who bawl RACISM.

* WHERE IS THE ETHNIC MORASS---WHERE IS THE WIDESPREAD RACISM IN GUYANA ?

* It's only in the minds of the HATERS---the 45,528 blacks and Indians who HATE the PPP.

Rev

I am convinced you are as shallow as a pond. Distrust does not spontaneously combust. People do not distrust others simply because they are not like them. Negative evaluations of others occur in instances of competition. And we has a lot of that.

It is undeniable that Indians have various prejudicial positions with respect to Black Guyanese no less than blacks have of Indians. The two groups have their own view of Amerinds. Tolerance, empathy, inter group dialog, or  head on consideration of our long held prejudices are never addressed in the society. Like you, they parties prefer to turn a blind eye to what everyone knows.

Again, this distrust did not occur yesterday. It was, as noted earlier, a seamless progression from the day the two groups were forced by the brits to compete for positions and status. To say the PNC are just vile degenerates who powered the social schism and fueled the distrust is silly. When the parties were formed they each aligned precisely along ethnic lines and maintained their base in those communities from then on. THat was not accidental but because of latent racism.

The vile expressions characterizing black people as the backward others is not mistrust. It is racism. To say that they can not rule ever despite being almost the same percentage in the society as Indians  is racism. To call them criminals and to insist they will cause violence because that is their way is racism.

The only reason you peddled that line here relentlessly is because you have ingrained prejudices. If absolute power corrupts think how much more corrupting is prejudice plus absolute power? It is what drives you to say blacks should never govern the state. Racism  exists and it has always been  the tool of groups to access  agencies of state. Mistrust cannot arise from the ether whole.

I do not find his posts amusing. I concede they are unrelentingly simplistic and racist. The annoying misuse of cartoons are not creative. I doubt he can creative any of the pictures  he post.

Further, for one who so gloating insist he is bright these do not make for a valid argument to illustrate said intellect. It is instead always childish and child like while being mean and nastily racist at the same time.

No succinct information comes across except his personal nasty minded vitrol Even his compulsion for borderline pornographic threads on the social side speaks to a evasive  inclination for the perverse.

I see absolutely no amusement value in this vile ignoramus. I see a knuckle walker with a primitive brain expressing base views.

Rev you are an unrepentant racist and I use this word against you deliberately. You think that the PPP will never lose therefore life is OK for Indians and to hell with blacks.  You damn those Indians who dare to leave the PPP plantation and consider them to be traitors.  Yes you called them "dirty Indians", and "Cuffy Lovers".  You couldn't use the "N" word so you found a substitute.  Your buddies went even further considering them to be self hating lice who like to subordinate themselves to blacks.

Your extreme bigotry against blacks in 2012 is still remembered by all of us, and we know that your heart remains the same, but you wish to pretend otherwise.

You are just like the PPP, who printed on their piece of news rag called the Chronicle that blacks are lazy, and violent and only live to commit crimes against Indians.  Something for which they NEVER apologized, and this has been reprinted on this site yesterday.  You ignore it and yet still scream that there isn't bigotry in Guyana.

Well address that rag and its racism or consider yourself to be a supporter of that view.

Once again you show that you have a 100% focus on Indians.  According to you 80% of Indians are happy with the PPP, so don't have any issues with ethnic paranoia.

Please tell me how this 80% would react if one morning they woke up and the PNC had won the election and Granger was president?

Also the 25% disgruntled Africans is YOUR number.  How come you don't assume that the 90% who vote against the PPP do so because they think that the PPP is racist? 

The 25% number is based on garbage in and so garbage out.  You input data which is flawed and then think that your results are credible.

Kari asked you to show the surveys which indicated the ethnic composition of the voters.  I ask the same, and also the basis for which you claim that only 25% of blacks hate the PPP, when 90% of the black and mixed vote (so an even higher % if we just consider the black vote) have voted against the PPP in 1997, 2001, 2006, and again in 2011.  The results were consistent. Even in 2006 when the PNC lost a lot of black support, it flowed over to the AFC, NOT to the PPP.

He claims that he is a Wall Street Quant guy.  No he is actually in graphic design because that is the only value I see in his incoherent babble.

Brilliant!

carib bai:

* Thanks for taking the time to respond to the Rev.

* Being a man of empathy, I could sense the deep pain and hurt and suffering you are going through. It is reflected in your post above carib.

* It has been 22 years since your beloved PNC has been out of office, and it has obviously hit you that they may never, ever win a free election in Guyana.

* But keep hope alive---maybe the AFC will form a coalition with your beloved PNC and together they will defeat the PPP----remember nothing lasts forever---and sometime in the next 100-150 years the PPP will lose and election.

* I know you were shocked to find out that only 28,063 blacks and 17,465 Indians HATE the PPP with a passion.

* That's a total of 45,528 HATERS in Guyana.

* NO WAY CAN THERE BE ETHNIC MORASS IN GUYANA WITH ONLY 45,528 HATERS.

* I must admit that the black and Indian HATERS are quite loud---they bawl and scream and shout RACISM morning, noon and night.

*But the TRUTH is RACISM is not widespread in Guyana and the Rev has presented the NUMBERS to substantiate his assertion.

* Once again Carib---thanks for your response---the Rev empathizes with your pain, suffering and hurt.

Rev

Rev, you are a pathetic ingrained congenital racist. Why don't you respond to this racist crap posted by the PPP rag for which the PPP never apologised?

Want to show empathy then respond to the racist article written by the Chronicle editors.

The fact that you claim that 80% of Indians will respond with pain and suffering if the PNC were to win, shows that your theories are wrong.

If 80% of both groups (those who confine their votes to the two racial parties, the PPP and the PNC) show angst then clearly your theory that there are ONLY 40k people who express ethnic paranoia is blown up.

ESPECIALLY as this number includes the very people, Indians who refuse to support the PPP, just because they are Indians.

Rev if any group of people aren't caught up in a racial morass its the 20% of Indians who don't vote PPP.  Neither the AFC, nor APNU have anything to offer them, so if they are looking for soup that bowl is dry.  They therefore based their votes on reasons other than race, and are quite comfortable voting along side blacks and other Guyanese against the PPP.

Gilbakka:

* Thanks for the kind words and compliments.

* I'm glad you take joy in reading the Rev's posts.

* By the way, I notice Danyael and Carib have been reduced to taking cheap shots at the Rev.

* I can tell they have been psychologically maimed and battered by the Rev's posts.hahahaha

* SOON THEY WILL BE PLEADING WITH IMAM RAYMOND(moderator) FOR PROTECTION.

Rev

Rev  amitwah posted an article that you should read and then offer your opinions.

Remember that the Chronicle is a PPP rag, and so reflects opinions that clearly many within the PPP are happy with.  The PPP NEVER apologized for this article.  Indeed the printing of sich filth in a paper which sees itself as being very important just shows what a waste of time the ERC was.  Juan Edghill is a soup licking stooge and its quite obvious that he was never interested in addressing the issue of ethnic relations.  If he did he would have sanctioned that article and demanded that Jagdeo offered an apology to AfroGuyanese.

OK so we can conclude that you agree with the Chronicle in its opinions of blacks. Rather than offering your opinions you pen this nonsense.

And no.  The days where PPP supporters can misbehave and then run to the PPP to ban their "persecutors" has FINISHED.  After all you did call Raymond all sorts of vile names, not knowing that the MAJORITY of us respect him.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

The notion that you will bash us is a joke.  Your racist nature has been exposed and you have no where to run as Raymond isn't going to protect you.

Rev, you never tire of over-pumping your already large ego.

Your blatantly racial posts cannot make anyone psychologically maimed and battered.

What is actually psychologically maimed and battered is your foolhardy bigoted mind.

And, Danyael and Carib aren't taking cheap shots at you. They're justifiably angered by your steady stream of racist pollution.

As for me, I am amused because you still haven't moved from A to B in your mindset.

Mits reminds me of when Top Russian Communists used to show Videos of the South Bronx and claimed that America is a third world Country/

* YOU ARE A PPP HATER DANYAEL.

* You will not find any of the Rev's posts interesting.

* In fact you will vehemently disagree with all.

* BUT KEEP READING AND POSTING.

Rev