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Granger vindicated

for scrapping Amaila

after meeting IDB President

October 3, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

The 165MW Hydro Electric Power Plant that was being pursued,

as conceived by the previous administration at Amaila Falls,

was not viable.

The new administration has since been vindicated

in its decision not to proceed with it.

This is according to Head of State, President David Granger,

who yesterday provided an update following a meeting

with Luis Alberto Moreno,

the President of one of the key partners in the project,

the Inter American Development Bank’s (IDB).

 

The project which saw an escalating price tag

that almost reached US$1B was sidelined

by the coalition A Partnership for National Unity,

Alliance for Change (APNU+AFC) government,

a decision President Granger said, is now being vindicated.

 

“The IDB spent millions of dollars

investigating the possibility of having

a hydro power project based on the Amaila Falls,

I do not want to disclose the details of my conversation

with President Moreno,

but I can say that generally speaking,

the Amaila Falls Project as conceived

by the previous administration was not viable,

it is not viable and

we are unlikely to proceed with the falls

in the form it was conceived and presented to us,”

said President Granger.

 

He recalled that during the life of the 10th Parliament

there was never a Bill that described or

defined the Amaila Falls Hydropower Project.

 

“Two measures came before the National Assembly,

one concerned the debt ceiling and

the other concerned the reservoir,

the area that is likely to be flooded.”

 

He stressed that there was none in the 10th Parliament

who was given a single document

“stating what the Amaila Falls Hydro Power Project’s

capabilities were, apart from what we were told

about building a road.”

 

The President said his team was never really able

to determine viability of the project as a whole.

 

He told media operatives that APNU+AFC while in opposition

pointed to the fact that the flow of water on the Kuribrong River

needed to be considered in conjunction with the entire Potaro Basin.

 

This suggestion, he said, was aimed at looking

to trap the water flows from several rivers.

 

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

“We had a different concept;

we want hydropower and

I think the IDB is inclined to support hydropower

but what was put before them is not viable,” said Granger.

 

He pointed out too, that the IDB conducted

further investigations into the viability of the project

and recalled too, that the APNU+AFC did engage

with the IDB while in opposition.

 

The President did point out that during his meeting with Moreno

over the course of the past week;

they did not pursue discussions

on the development of hydropower facilities

either at Moco Moco or Tumatumari—

two sites recently flagged by Government

as possible locations for the development

of smaller hydro power facilities.

 

According to President Granger,

“There are about 100 sites in Guyana

which can support hydroelectric generation

and we intend to pursue hydroelectric generation.”

 

On the matter of the Amaila Falls Project,

President Granger told media operatives,

“everything about it appeared to us to be flawed

and we feel vindicated

in that we did not spend our good money,

or we did not take loans which have to be paid back

to develop that particular project.”

 

He is convinced that

“sooner or later Guyana will have hydro power,

whether it’s one project or several small projects,

this is still to be decided.”

 

According to President Granger,

the Public Infrastructure Minister, David Patterson,

is engaged in investigating not just hydro power potential,

“but also other forms of renewable energy

particularly solar energy and wind.”

 

He disclosed too that during Wednesday’s Cabinet meeting,

the Council of Ministers did address

the concept of wind and solar farms.

“Not one-one panels,

but farms which can generate (electrical) power

for whole communities.”

Asked to specify whether the project

being deemed not viable was a position of the IDB,

Granger told media operatives:

“I don’t want to speak for the IDB,

but as I said the IDB spent millions of dollars

investigating this project.”

 

According to the President,

the IDB “wanted it to work

but at this point in time

I do not feel that they are convinced

that we should proceed with the project.”

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Please quote  from the article for me where granger said that Moreno indicated the the decision to to build the hydro electricity plant at Amelia was wrong.

 

Also, if memory serves me correctly, the government shared all the documents with the opposition and took opposition members on a tour. Is Mr Granger less informed about the project than the many experts here in this site who have been proving their brilliance or lack of on this topic over the past few years.

 

Z

He(Granger) recalled that during the life of the 10th Parliament

there was never a Bill that described or

defined the Amaila Falls Hydropower Project.

 

“Two measures came before the National Assembly,

one concerned the debt ceiling and

the other concerned the reservoir,

the area that is likely to be flooded.”

 

He stressed that there was none in the 10th Parliament

who was given a single document

“stating what the Amaila Falls Hydro Power Project’s

capabilities were, apart from what we were told

about building a road.”

 

The President said his team was never really able

to determine viability of the project as a whole.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

Tola
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

What kind of stupidity is this ??? mediocre to the core.

Django
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

What kind of stupidity is this ??? mediocre to the core.

It doesn't matter what you think.  You didn't say anything useful about the project.  Where is your intelligence?  Why don't say something constructive for a change?

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Reason enough.

FM
Originally Posted by D2:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Reason enough.

I don't think so!  To throw away US$2.8 billion, there must be more reason to do so. Antbody can say it is not viabe.  The IDB proved that they cannot be trusted to give viable advice to any government.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama, EVERY project the PPP did was over run by cost, sometimes more than double the estimate.

Contacts are often given a +10% over run, but PPP projects estimates are doubled.  Why ?

 

We know of the Kato secondary school project where the estimate was doubled, because we are in nearby in Paramakatoi and take the long trip by road often.

 

Why Rama ?

Tola
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by D2:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Reason enough.

I don't think so!  To throw away US$2.8 billion, there must be more reason to do so. Antbody can say it is not viabe.  The IDB proved that they cannot be trusted to give viable advice to any government.

Rama stop defending thiefing

Tell me....would you support

the Biggest Investment by the Govt

after you know.......

(1) IDB spend Millions on research and say it is not Viable

(2) Jagdeo could not show the Guyanese People the Details.

(3) The Original Price keep Doubling everytime.

(4) Jagdeo Initiative move the cost of producing sugar

from... US 10 Cents per pound under Burnham.....

to.....  US 45 Cents per pound under Burnham.....

when the world market price is  US 13 Cents per pound.

(5) Isn't this called Thiefman Initiative.

RAMA R U A THIEFMAN

 

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

In BC and Alberta they have mountains of snow run-off and water accumulation in reservoirs to keep the turbines operating.

BC presently is constructing a Site C dam, that require flooding large areas and displacing hundreds of First Nations People. This issue is presently in the courts.

 

What plan does the Guyana projects have to reserve water, when the river is dry and during dry seasons ?  Does the project become a white elephant ? 

 

Tola
Originally Posted by Zed:
Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

There are also many projects, world wide and also in Canada, with similar conditions like the Amaila falls project, where the flows are augmented from other streams.

 

On related past threads, I indicated that as the Executive Coordinator for Hydroelectric Power Development similar constructed projects were constructed in Canada which are identical conditions with Amaila Falls proposal.

FM

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