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Granger vindicated

for scrapping Amaila

after meeting IDB President

October 3, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

The 165MW Hydro Electric Power Plant that was being pursued,

as conceived by the previous administration at Amaila Falls,

was not viable.

The new administration has since been vindicated

in its decision not to proceed with it.

This is according to Head of State, President David Granger,

who yesterday provided an update following a meeting

with Luis Alberto Moreno,

the President of one of the key partners in the project,

the Inter American Development Bank’s (IDB).

 

The project which saw an escalating price tag

that almost reached US$1B was sidelined

by the coalition A Partnership for National Unity,

Alliance for Change (APNU+AFC) government,

a decision President Granger said, is now being vindicated.

 

“The IDB spent millions of dollars

investigating the possibility of having

a hydro power project based on the Amaila Falls,

I do not want to disclose the details of my conversation

with President Moreno,

but I can say that generally speaking,

the Amaila Falls Project as conceived

by the previous administration was not viable,

it is not viable and

we are unlikely to proceed with the falls

in the form it was conceived and presented to us,”

said President Granger.

 

He recalled that during the life of the 10th Parliament

there was never a Bill that described or

defined the Amaila Falls Hydropower Project.

 

“Two measures came before the National Assembly,

one concerned the debt ceiling and

the other concerned the reservoir,

the area that is likely to be flooded.”

 

He stressed that there was none in the 10th Parliament

who was given a single document

“stating what the Amaila Falls Hydro Power Project’s

capabilities were, apart from what we were told

about building a road.”

 

The President said his team was never really able

to determine viability of the project as a whole.

 

He told media operatives that APNU+AFC while in opposition

pointed to the fact that the flow of water on the Kuribrong River

needed to be considered in conjunction with the entire Potaro Basin.

 

This suggestion, he said, was aimed at looking

to trap the water flows from several rivers.

 

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

“We had a different concept;

we want hydropower and

I think the IDB is inclined to support hydropower

but what was put before them is not viable,” said Granger.

 

He pointed out too, that the IDB conducted

further investigations into the viability of the project

and recalled too, that the APNU+AFC did engage

with the IDB while in opposition.

 

The President did point out that during his meeting with Moreno

over the course of the past week;

they did not pursue discussions

on the development of hydropower facilities

either at Moco Moco or Tumatumari—

two sites recently flagged by Government

as possible locations for the development

of smaller hydro power facilities.

 

According to President Granger,

“There are about 100 sites in Guyana

which can support hydroelectric generation

and we intend to pursue hydroelectric generation.”

 

On the matter of the Amaila Falls Project,

President Granger told media operatives,

“everything about it appeared to us to be flawed

and we feel vindicated

in that we did not spend our good money,

or we did not take loans which have to be paid back

to develop that particular project.”

 

He is convinced that

“sooner or later Guyana will have hydro power,

whether it’s one project or several small projects,

this is still to be decided.”

 

According to President Granger,

the Public Infrastructure Minister, David Patterson,

is engaged in investigating not just hydro power potential,

“but also other forms of renewable energy

particularly solar energy and wind.”

 

He disclosed too that during Wednesday’s Cabinet meeting,

the Council of Ministers did address

the concept of wind and solar farms.

“Not one-one panels,

but farms which can generate (electrical) power

for whole communities.”

Asked to specify whether the project

being deemed not viable was a position of the IDB,

Granger told media operatives:

“I don’t want to speak for the IDB,

but as I said the IDB spent millions of dollars

investigating this project.”

 

According to the President,

the IDB “wanted it to work

but at this point in time

I do not feel that they are convinced

that we should proceed with the project.”

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Please quote  from the article for me where granger said that Moreno indicated the the decision to to build the hydro electricity plant at Amelia was wrong.

 

Also, if memory serves me correctly, the government shared all the documents with the opposition and took opposition members on a tour. Is Mr Granger less informed about the project than the many experts here in this site who have been proving their brilliance or lack of on this topic over the past few years.

 

Z

He(Granger) recalled that during the life of the 10th Parliament

there was never a Bill that described or

defined the Amaila Falls Hydropower Project.

 

“Two measures came before the National Assembly,

one concerned the debt ceiling and

the other concerned the reservoir,

the area that is likely to be flooded.”

 

He stressed that there was none in the 10th Parliament

who was given a single document

“stating what the Amaila Falls Hydro Power Project’s

capabilities were, apart from what we were told

about building a road.”

 

The President said his team was never really able

to determine viability of the project as a whole.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

Tola
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

What kind of stupidity is this ??? mediocre to the core.

Django
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

What kind of stupidity is this ??? mediocre to the core.

It doesn't matter what you think.  You didn't say anything useful about the project.  Where is your intelligence?  Why don't say something constructive for a change?

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Reason enough.

FM
Originally Posted by D2:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Reason enough.

I don't think so!  To throw away US$2.8 billion, there must be more reason to do so. Antbody can say it is not viabe.  The IDB proved that they cannot be trusted to give viable advice to any government.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama, EVERY project the PPP did was over run by cost, sometimes more than double the estimate.

Contacts are often given a +10% over run, but PPP projects estimates are doubled.  Why ?

 

We know of the Kato secondary school project where the estimate was doubled, because we are in nearby in Paramakatoi and take the long trip by road often.

 

Why Rama ?

Tola
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by D2:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable? This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives.  The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run. You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Reason enough.

I don't think so!  To throw away US$2.8 billion, there must be more reason to do so. Antbody can say it is not viabe.  The IDB proved that they cannot be trusted to give viable advice to any government.

Rama stop defending thiefing

Tell me....would you support

the Biggest Investment by the Govt

after you know.......

(1) IDB spend Millions on research and say it is not Viable

(2) Jagdeo could not show the Guyanese People the Details.

(3) The Original Price keep Doubling everytime.

(4) Jagdeo Initiative move the cost of producing sugar

from... US 10 Cents per pound under Burnham.....

to.....  US 45 Cents per pound under Burnham.....

when the world market price is  US 13 Cents per pound.

(5) Isn't this called Thiefman Initiative.

RAMA R U A THIEFMAN

 

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

In BC and Alberta they have mountains of snow run-off and water accumulation in reservoirs to keep the turbines operating.

BC presently is constructing a Site C dam, that require flooding large areas and displacing hundreds of First Nations People. This issue is presently in the courts.

 

What plan does the Guyana projects have to reserve water, when the river is dry and during dry seasons ?  Does the project become a white elephant ? 

 

Tola
Originally Posted by Zed:
Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

There are also many projects, world wide and also in Canada, with similar conditions like the Amaila falls project, where the flows are augmented from other streams.

 

On related past threads, I indicated that as the Executive Coordinator for Hydroelectric Power Development similar constructed projects were constructed in Canada which are identical conditions with Amaila Falls proposal.

FM
Originally Posted by Prashad:

       
How come Burnham hydro engineer Demerara Guy said it was a viable project

       
There's a reason why D_G is known as the Demented_Guy. The man thinks that a blow up doll is a real woman and when he signs on to GNI he is at a job.
Mars
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by ian:
Originally Posted by Tola:

Jagdeo must be counting his loss, for not getting a cut.

And Why you believe you are an angel  

You sound like my friend's ex-wife, who could read minds.

 

Jagdeo and his gang are corrupt and rotten to the core.

IF...IF...IF...he ever get back in power and that's a big IF,  his first action will be to build two more mansions on the backs of the poor, while most in Guyana struggle to survive. Go ask your friend Mutt and Jeff.

You are a very stupid person.  Why don't you tell us about the reason for scrapping the Hydro project other than it is not viable?

“We have never seen the Kaieteur Falls bone dry

but we have seen the Amaila Falls bone dry,”

according to President Granger.

 

This Unity Government cannot build a hydro project on their own initiatives. 

Rama....Besides thiefing....

who would want to build a Hydro

where the river run ....BONE DRY.....

what type of initative is that.

 

 

The PNC scrapped two of them already during their last run.

RAMA....So Jagdeo think he could

Waste(Thief) US$1 Billion

because PNC Mismanage Guyana in the past.

 

 

You are so hateful of the PPP that you cannot see that it is the PNC who is now responsible for all the debts of the last Government as the PPP was responsible for Burnham's debt.

Rama this is not PNC Govt

Granger and Moses .....is not.... Burnham and Reid.

 

 

Please correct me if I am incorrect. Key to some of these projects is the building of the dam, the purpose of which is to provide height of water so it can go through and turn the generator, and to have enough water throughout the year. There are many such dams in Alberta and British Columbia. Granger's statement is all about narrative. You expect me to believe that they did not know much about the Project? Well, the Guyanese population must be more knowledge about the project than they are and maybe points to them not being ready for the major league.

 

By by the way, several years ago, the water over the  kaieteur falls was reduced to a trickle. 

In BC and Alberta they have mountains of snow run-off and water accumulation in reservoirs to keep the turbines operating.

BC presently is constructing a Site C dam, that require flooding large areas and displacing hundreds of First Nations People. This issue is presently in the courts.

 

What plan does the Guyana projects have to reserve water, when the river is dry and during dry seasons ?  Does the project become a white elephant ? 

 

 Let us forget about Jagdeo and Donald for a minute and just discuss the technical aspects. I am not an expert but I believe that the in the area chosen, the amount of water behind a dam will be enough to supply water in drier periods. In Parts of Southern Alberta and Saskatchewan, there are hydro projects that depended on water from the rivers on the generally flat plain,  not in mountainous gorges. The situation with the james Bay Cree is a prime example of the issue of the rights of First Nations versus  the infrastructure thrusts of Governments. So is the situation in Brazil and other countries.

 

we know there are issues regarding the funding, the costs of the project, the ownership structure, the environment, the cost at which power will be produced. If I remember, the IDB was in favour of the project so I am surprised if they are now saying that the project in not a good one. (If that is true) The government needs to give us a coherent and detailed explanation of why the project is a bad one or a good one, a really detailed cost benefit analysis dealing with the monetary issues, then an identification of and their position regarding some of the non financial issues. Put it on the table. Let us discuss it on the basis of its merits or lack of, away from the polemics. We know that there will be costs and at some point a decision has to be made. They must be up front on the basis of the decision they make.

 

we will always have this debate about corruption and thieves but we need to move ahead. If things are done properly, then we will mute some of these comments and can truly say that what is decided is for the benefit of all Guyanese, not a select few.

 

DG is an expert in this area so he might be more informed about the technical aspects of the issue.

 

 

 

Z
Originally Posted by Wally:

DJ it looks like the government will be going solar and wind.

There are numerous attempts at solar and wind power which serve local and isolated areas.

 

For major developments in Guyana with a stable and reliable source of electric energy, a hydroelectric power plant is needed.

FM
I do not want to disclose the details of my conversation with President Moreno, but I can say that generally speaking, the Amaila Falls Project as conceived by the previous administration was not viable, it is not viable and we are unlikely to proceed with the falls in the form it was conceived and presented to us,” said President Granger.

 

Asked to specify whether the project being deemed not viable was a position of the IDB, Granger told media operatives: “I don’t want to speak for the IDB, but as I said the IDB spent millions of dollars investigating this project.”

 

According to the President,the IDB “wanted it to work but at this point in time I do not feel that they are convinced that we should proceed with the project.”

 

 

Granger vindicated for scrapping Amaila after meeting IDB President

October 3, 2015 | By | Filed Under News

Perhaps, meaning that they will "dust off some things here and there" and then it will be implemented.

FM

 

I do not think

Rama could thief Big like De Rat

 

 

Rama stop defending thiefing

Tell me....would you support

the Biggest Investment by the Govt

after you know.......

(1) IDB spend Millions on research

and say it is not Viable

 

(2) Jagdeo could not

show the Guyanese People the Details.

 

(3) The Original Price keep Doubling

everytime Jagdeo Scratch

where his Balls should be.

 

(4) Jagdeo Initiative

move the cost of producing sugar

from... US 10 Cents per pound

under Burnham.....

 

to.....  US 45 Cents per pound

under Burnham JAGDEO.....

 

when the world market price is

 US 13 Cents per pound.

 

(5) Isn't this called Thiefman Initiative.

 

RAMA R U A THIEFMAN

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Wally:

DJ it looks like the government will be going solar and wind.

There are numerous attempts at solar

and wind power which serve local and isolated areas.

For major developments in Guyana

with a stable and reliable

source of electric energy,

a hydroelectric power plant is needed.

But Not Jagdeo Hydro_Seed

Where the Rat Steal De Cheese

 

 

 

“We had a different concept;

we want hydropower and

I think the IDB is inclined to support hydropower

but what was put before them is not viable,”

said Granger.

 

He pointed out too, that the IDB conducted

further investigations into the viability of the project

and recalled too, that the APNU+AFC did engage

with the IDB while in opposition.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
I do not want to disclose the details of my conversation with President Moreno, but I can say that generally speaking, the Amaila Falls Project as conceived by the previous administration was not viable, it is not viable and we are unlikely to proceed with the falls in the form it was conceived and presented to us,” said President Granger.

 

Asked to specify whether the project being deemed not viable was a position of the IDB, Granger told media operatives: “I don’t want to speak for the IDB, but as I said the IDB spent millions of dollars investigating this project.”

 

According to the President,the IDB “wanted it to work but at this point in time I do not feel that they are convinced that we should proceed with the project.”

 

 

Granger vindicated for scrapping Amaila after meeting IDB President

October 3, 2015 | By | Filed Under News

Perhaps, meaning that they will "dust off some things here and there" and then it will be implemented.

Aya watch this Rass....

 

Moses & Granger Scrap

De Amaila Hydro Cheese Project

 

IDB Say Amaila Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

Not Viable

 

 

 

Summary

Guyana Govt Reject

Jagdeo Hydro_Cheese

 

IDB tell the world

Not Viable

Jagdeo Hydro_Cheese

 

 

 

 

xxxxxxxxxxxx 

and Absalam

believe

Perhaps, meaning

that they will "dust off some things here and there"

and then it will be implemented.

 

Now Tell us who will build it? 

IDB or Guyana Govt write off

Jagdeo Pie-in-de-sky Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
How come Burnham hydro engineer Demerara Guy said it was a viable project

He loves being wrong.

Ole stinking

Cheezee Crab Louse

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Zed:

Please quote  from the article for me where granger said that Moreno indicated the the decision to to build the hydro electricity plant at Amelia was wrong.

 

Also, if memory serves me correctly, the government shared all the documents with the opposition and took opposition members on a tour. Is Mr Granger less informed about the project than the many experts here in this site who have been proving their brilliance or lack of on this topic over the past few years.

 

The AFC and APNU at all stages were opposed to the Amaila Falls.  We were even treated to the spectacle of a DRY waterfall during the dry season.

 

The PPP was NOT transparent about the process, and this was evident in the selection of Fip Motilall t build a road to the interior. What qualifications did he have, aside from being an Indian supporter of the PPP?  NONE!  Yet millions was squandered on him.

 

IDB can refute the fact that the headlines claims that they do not see the project as viable.  I am willing to bet that they don't.

 

It is quite evident that the IDB and the UN are as relieved that the PPP was tossed out of office, as they were when the PNC was tossed out in 1992.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Zed:

Please quote  from the article for me where granger said that Moreno indicated the the decision to to build the hydro electricity plant at Amelia was wrong.

 

Also, if memory serves me correctly, the government shared all the documents with the opposition and took opposition members on a tour. Is Mr Granger less informed about the project than the many experts here in this site who have been proving their brilliance or lack of on this topic over the past few years.

The AFC and APNU at all stages were opposed to the Amaila Falls.  We were even treated to the spectacle of a DRY waterfall during the dry season.

 

The PPP was NOT transparent about the process, and this was evident in the selection of Fip Motilall t build a road to the interior. What qualifications did he have, aside from being an Indian supporter of the PPP?  NONE!  Yet millions was squandered on him.

 

IDB can refute the fact that the headlines claims that they do not see the project as viable.  I am willing to bet that they don't.

 

It is quite evident that the IDB and the UN are as relieved that the PPP was tossed out of office, as they were when the PNC was tossed out in 1992.

As noted on previous discussions, there are indeed many projects worldwide which are augmented by flows from other streams.

 

Also as stated, I was the Executive Coordinator for Hydroelectric Power Development where projects were constructed in Canada with identical conditions to those for Amaila Falls proposal, i.e., flows augmented from other stream(s). Was also involved with similar projects in Africa, Europe, India, Australia, etc.

 

Similarly for all streams, mathematical and statistical approaches are conducted to determine the probabilities of occurrences to meet the water supply needs plus other pertinent parameters for the proposal; such as 1:100, 1:1000, 1:10,000 year of occurrences.

FM

APNU/AFC were opposed to every action by the PPP, just not the hydro project.  Now they are in charge they must take accountability for the way forward or therein lack of. With gas prices this low, the project is not feasible. The PPP relied on the experts to tell where the hydro project should be located, if this was incorrect then let Granger and team lead the way. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

APNU/AFC were opposed to every action by the PPP, just not the hydro project.  Now they are in charge they must take accountability for the way forward or therein lack of. With gas prices this low, the project is not feasible. The PPP relied on the experts to tell where the hydro project should be located, if this was incorrect then let Granger and team lead the way. 

That's correct if can't be viable find another location and

get the hydro going,wondering what the Executive

Coordinator have to say.

Django
Last edited by Django
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

APNU/AFC were opposed to every action by the PPP, just not the hydro project.  Now they are in charge they must take accountability for the way forward or therein lack of. With gas prices this low, the project is not feasible. The PPP relied on the experts to tell where the hydro project should be located, if this was incorrect then let Granger and team lead the way. 

That's correct if can't be viable find another location and

get the hydro going,wondering what the Executive

Coordinator have to say.

Don't forget both Cathy and Nigel Hughes were working under cover for the Amaila Falls Project and getting good pay,yet they oppose the project, because the PNC says so. DO AS I SAY , AND NOT AS I DO.

K
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

APNU/AFC were opposed to every action by the PPP, just not the hydro project.  Now they are in charge they must take accountability for the way forward or therein lack of. With gas prices this low, the project is not feasible. The PPP relied on the experts to tell where the hydro project should be located, if this was incorrect then let Granger and team lead the way. 

That's correct if can't be viable find another location and

get the hydro going,wondering what the Executive

Coordinator have to say.

Don't forget both Cathy and Nigel Hughes were working under cover for the Amaila Falls Project and getting good pay,yet they oppose the project, because the PNC says so. DO AS I SAY , AND NOT AS I DO.

Both...IDB & Guyana Govt write off

Jagdeo Pie-in-de-sky Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

 

What nonsense is this kp saying now.

The Moses & Granger must not scrap 

"De Jadeo Cheezee Hydro-Seed Project"

because they Hired Cathy Hughes Company to do PR .

 

or is kp saying.......

The IDB must now lie and say 

"De Jadeo Cheezee Hydro-Seed Project"

is NOW VIABLE & SOUND

because Nigel Hughes was Chosen as their attorney.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

APNU/AFC were opposed to every action by the PPP, just not the hydro project.  Now they are in charge they must take accountability for the way forward or therein lack of. With gas prices this low, the project is not feasible. The PPP relied on the experts to tell where the hydro project should be located, if this was incorrect then let Granger and team lead the way. 

That's correct if can't be viable find another location and

get the hydro going,wondering what the Executive

Coordinator have to say.

Don't forget both Cathy and Nigel Hughes were working under cover for the Amaila Falls Project and getting good pay,yet they oppose the project, because the PNC says so. DO AS I SAY , AND NOT AS I DO.

How difficult is it for granger to phone  one of the Hughes and asked to be further briefed on the project? The problem with so many politicians is that they think all members of the population are too stupid to know what is happening.

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by kp:
 

Don't forget both Cathy and Nigel Hughes were working under cover for the Amaila Falls Project and getting good pay,yet they oppose the project, because the PNC says so. DO AS I SAY , AND NOT AS I DO.

How difficult is it for granger to phone  one of the Hughes and asked to be further briefed on the project? The problem with so many politicians is that they think all members of the population are too stupid to know what is happening.

Both...IDB & Guyana Govt write off

Jagdeo Pie-in-de-sky Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by kp:
 

Don't forget both Cathy and Nigel Hughes were working under cover for the Amaila Falls Project and getting good pay,yet they oppose the project, because the PNC says so. DO AS I SAY , AND NOT AS I DO.

How difficult is it for granger to phone  one of the Hughes and asked to be further briefed on the project? The problem with so many politicians is that they think all members of the population are too stupid to know what is happening.

Both...IDB & Guyana Govt write off

Jagdeo Pie-in-de-sky Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

Still waiting for someone to provide a source that says that the IDB indicated that ye hydro electricity project at zamelia falls is a bad one. 

 

Catch up with you tomorrow.

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Jalil:
 

Both...IDB & Guyana Govt write off

Jagdeo Pie-in-de-sky Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

Still waiting for someone to provide a source that says that the IDB indicated that ye hydro electricity project at zamelia falls is a bad one. 

 

Catch up with you tomorrow.

IDB say

"it is not Viable"

 

take yuh time and figure it out.

 

then show me ...where

anyone who is not a thief

would Build a Hydro

on a Bone Dry River...

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Jalil:
 

Both...IDB & Guyana Govt write off

Jagdeo Pie-in-de-sky Hydro Project

Too Cheesey & Rattish

Still waiting for someone to provide a source that says that the IDB indicated that ye hydro electricity project at zamelia falls is a bad one. 

 

Catch up with you tomorrow.

IDB say

"it is not Viable"

 

take yuh time and figure it out.

 

then show me ...where

anyone who is not a thief

would Build a Hydro

on a Bone Dry River...

I mean no disrespect, but I cannot accept you as a credible source. 

Z

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