Councie is a B@tty Boy

The Guyanese populace have seen the sinister motives of the joint opposition and will be more than glad to vote the AFC/APNU to the political wilderness.

40% will get.

Anil say this election will prove

Both Jagdeo & Ramotar were wrong

to stuff all dem 50 percent Women

like Kwame in the Party

PPP Grass root supporters

do not like dem @unti-men runnings

Stabroek News, October 7, 2013

Dear Editor,

I was in the audience (as a scribe reporting for community publications) last Friday evening at the Queens public meeting where President Donald Ramotar updated the diaspora on the state of affairs in their homeland and fielded questions. Donald was booed a couple times (for remarks contrasting crime and sanitation with other countries and on corruption) and praised several times. What struck my attention was not what the President said but what he did not do or say. He failed to acknowledge and recognize the significant contributions of some towering New York-based personalities who helped to put the PPP into office and who played a critical role in the restoration of democracy in Guyana. He should have used his trip and or the speech to bring healing to and unite the disparate factions of the PPP’s support group, Association of Concerned Guyanese.

At the Ramotar public engagement, I saw former loyalists of the Association of Concerned Guyanese, support group of the PPP in America, who had a public fall-out with Mr Ramotar and who were very critical of him prior to the November 2011 elections. I know these individuals very well since 1977 having joined them (though I am not an ACG member) in protests, rallies, picketing exercises, etc, against the 24 year old PNC dictatorship. They were a small group but very dedicated to the cause and effective at organizing public actions and several of them attended numerous protest events and rallies organized by myself, Dr Baytoram Ramharack and Vassan Ramracha – all pioneers and founding fathers of the New York Guyanese revolutionary movement that helped to usher in democracy in the homeland. The PPP and Guyanese owe the ACG early activists (such as Arjune Karshan, Chuck Mohan, Mel Carpen, Joe Kanhai, Flatty Singh, Danny Singh, John Drepaul, ‘V’, etc), and later ones like Joe Kanhai, Abudul Hafeez, Chris Sarabit and his brother Michael, Samad Ally, individuals like Ramharack, Ramracha, Joe Ragnauth (DLM), Mahadeo Persaud, Dr Ravi Dev, Pandit Ramlall, Ramesh Kalicharran, Vishnu Bandhu, others activists of the WPA support group, etc a debt of gratitude for their commitment to the struggle. Political struggle was not easy. Very few people were interested in Guyana and we could not raise a dollar from them. Only a handful of us took up the cudgel — unrelenting in our activism to lobby international organizations and governments for the restoration of democracy in our former homeland. Even a Chinese Jamaican, Richard Chin, who joined us in the struggle, deserves kudos. Many of the activists suffered tremendously because of their commitment to the struggle – families were neglected and broken. Because they were so strongly wedded to the anti-dictatorial movement, some marriages ended in divorce. Some of the activists like Ramharack, Vassan, and myself gave virtually all of our financial resources to the movement; our incomes were used to fund activities and print literature for free public distribution. Virtually no New Yorker, apart from Karshan who served as Ambassador to Suriname for over 10 years, who partook in the revolution was ever recognized, honoured or rewarded for their immense contributions to the struggle. A few opportunists were highly rewarded. The ACG splintered after the restoration of democracy and the departure of Karshan who was the leader of the group for many years.

President Ramotar had a historic and unique opportunity last Friday to make a gesture to those former stalwarts of the struggle of the need for healing and a desire to reconcile factions. The presence of some of these ACG founders and activists, once critics of Mr Ramotar and former President Jagdeo, at the meeting was a clear signal of their desire for reconciliation with the PPP leadership but no one paid heed. President Ramotar should have taken advantage of his presence in NY to unite the various factions and to bring former stalwarts together.

Compromise and reconciliation with critics (overseas and domestic) are critical for the PPP especially if it is to recover lost support. The former PPP activists, turned critics, are not enemies of the party. They ought to be recognized for their hard work to help liberate Guyana from oppressive rule. On the issue of reconciliation, the PPP also needs to reach out to others who left (or were pushed out) for whatever reason. One name that comes to mind (and there are several including Lionel Peters, Sasenarine Singh, etc) is the experienced and highly respected Ralph Ramkarran. The PPP cannot afford to lose one vote and it will be very difficult for the party to win a majority in the next election without Ramkarran (given that Moses Nagamootoo is campaigning against the PPP) high in the line-up. And elections are not far away with Moses threatening a no confidence vote, the PNC saying it is ready for an election, and the PPP saying elections will be held soon. Reconciliation with constructive critics and former stalwarts, overseas activists, etc, is urgently needed by President Ramotar and General Secretary Clement Rohee in order to strengthen the party.

Yours faithfully,
Vishnu Bisram

Nice Ad.

The PPP will win a majority but they must run a grassroots style campaign. They should ignore those who are not fully supporting the PPP but are seeking recognition for past contribution. 

 Reconciliation with constructive critics and former stalwarts, overseas activists, etc, is urgently needed by President Ramotar and General Secretary Clement Rohee in order to strengthen the party.

Yours faithfully,
Vishnu Bisram

The results attained by the PPP in the last election was an anomaly--a slight deviation from the norm---in the next election---it will be back to usual for free elections in Guyana---the PPP will get back to 50+%.

Let's look at the 5 free and fair elections since 1992---and the % the PPP attained:

53.5%---PPP in 1992

55.3%---PPP in 1997

53.0%---PPP in 2001

54.6%---PPP in 2006

48.6%---PPP in 2011

It is crystal clear looking at those results---the 48.6% the PPP received in 2011 was an anomaly---a slight departure from the norm.

Everyone agrees that the PPP was hurt by complacency in the last election---and they ran a pi$$ poor campaign.

There was also the Moses factor---he bolted from the PPP a few weeks before the election---hooked up with the AFC---and made the world of promises to Berbicians.

Well, Moses has been exposed as a hypocrite---his novelty has completely vanished---his AFC party is in crisis---this all bodes well for the PPP.

CONCLUSION:

There is a 99.99% chance the PPP will regain the majority in the next election.

Rev

99.99% chance. LOL!

I was in the audience (as a scribe reporting for community publications) last Friday evening at the Queens public meeting where President Donald Ramotar updated the diaspora on the state of affairs in their homeland and fielded questions. Donald was booed a couple times (for remarks contrasting crime and sanitation with other countries and on corruption) and praised several times. What struck my attention was not what the President said but what he did not do or say. He failed to acknowledge and recognize the significant contributions of some towering New York-based personalities who helped to put the PPP into office and who played a critical role in the restoration of democracy in Guyana. He should have used his trip and or the speech to bring healing to and unite the disparate factions of the PPP’s support group, Association of Concerned Guyanese.

Mr Bisram is spot on, President Ramotar missed a golden opportunity. I hope someone is reading, watching and paying close attention to what Mr Bisram stated above. The Ball is now in Pres Ramotar Court!!!

Mr Ramotar had the ball in his court for two years. And in the case of Guysuco he sat on that ball for 19 years drawing down on a hefty pay while the industry disintegrated. 

Okay TK don't lose sleep what has to be done will be done to bring about reconciliation.

Like Dr TK haunting you also?

I appreciate your honesty in finally admitting that in your opinion Guyanese of African and mixed ancestry condone violence.  Something that the PPP daily screams in their attempt to terrify Indians.

You see APNU won over 90% of the votes from those two voting blocs and so any attempt to malign APNU supporters means that you denigrate African and mixed voters.

This is a sure way to guarantee that the PPP remains a minority govt as the Indian vote is no longer large enough, nor as monolithic in its support of the PPP to guarantee that the PPP gets more than 50% of the votes.

To most people this doesnt look like an anomaly.  Its looks like since Cheddi died the PPP is losing support.  Especially when we consider that in 2006 many African/mixed voters stayed home because of their frustration with Corbin, but came out in droves in 2011.

If the PPP must go back 30 years to make its case things are really bad for them.  How many Guyanese know or care about what Forbes Burnham did?

carib bai:

Most people are numerically illiterate!

Those numbers reveal that the 2011 % for the PPP was an anomaly.

RE: CHEDDI

Lemme refresh your memory.

Below was the result of the 1964 election in Guyana:

45.8%---PPP and Cheddi

40.5%---PNC and Burnham

12.4%---UF

0.6%---JP

Rev

Stabroek News, October 7, 2013

Dear Editor,

I was in the audience (as a scribe reporting for community publications) last Friday evening at the Queens public meeting where President Donald Ramotar updated the diaspora on the state of affairs in their homeland and fielded questions.Donald was booed a couple times (for remarks contrasting crime and sanitation with other countries and on corruption) and praised several times. What struck my attention was not what the President said but what he did not do or say. He failed to acknowledge and recognize the significant contributions of some towering New York-based personalities who helped to put the PPP into office and who played a critical role in the restoration of democracy in Guyana. He should have used his trip and or the speech to bring healing to and unite the disparate factions of the PPP’s support group, Association of Concerned Guyanese.

At the Ramotar public engagement, I saw former loyalists of the Association of Concerned Guyanese, support group of the PPP in America, who had a public fall-out with Mr Ramotar and who were very critical of him prior to the November 2011 elections. I know these individuals very well since 1977 having joined them (though I am not an ACG member) in protests, rallies, picketing exercises, etc, against the 24 year old PNC dictatorship. They were a small group but very dedicated to the cause and effective at organizing public actions and several of them attended numerous protest events and rallies organized by myself, Dr Baytoram Ramharack and Vassan Ramracha – all pioneers and founding fathers of the New York Guyanese revolutionary movement that helped to usher in democracy in the homeland. The PPP and Guyanese owe the ACG early activists (such as Arjune Karshan, Chuck Mohan, Mel Carpen, Joe Kanhai, Flatty Singh, Danny Singh, John Drepaul, ‘V’, etc), and later ones like Joe Kanhai, Abudul Hafeez, Chris Sarabit and his brother Michael, Samad Ally, individuals like Ramharack, Ramracha, Joe Ragnauth (DLM), Mahadeo Persaud, Dr Ravi Dev, Pandit Ramlall, Ramesh Kalicharran, Vishnu Bandhu, others activists of the WPA support group, etc a debt of gratitude for their commitment to the struggle. Political struggle was not easy. Very few people were interested in Guyana and we could not raise a dollar from them. Only a handful of us took up the cudgel — unrelenting in our activism to lobby international organizations and governments for the restoration of democracy in our former homeland. Even a Chinese Jamaican, Richard Chin, who joined us in the struggle, deserves kudos. Many of the activists suffered tremendously because of their commitment to the struggle – families were neglected and broken. Because they were so strongly wedded to the anti-dictatorial movement, some marriages ended in divorce. Some of the activists like Ramharack, Vassan, and myself gave virtually all of our financial resources to the movement; our incomes were used to fund activities and print literature for free public distribution. Virtually no New Yorker, apart from Karshan who served as Ambassador to Suriname for over 10 years, who partook in the revolution was ever recognized, honoured or rewarded for their immense contributions to the struggle. A few opportunists were highly rewarded. The ACG splintered after the restoration of democracy and the departure of Karshan who was the leader of the group for many years.

President Ramotar had a historic and unique opportunity last Friday to make a gesture to those former stalwarts of the struggle of the need for healing and a desire to reconcile factions. The presence of some of these ACG founders and activists, once critics of Mr Ramotar and former President Jagdeo, at the meeting was a clear signal of their desire for reconciliation with the PPP leadership but no one paid heed. President Ramotar should have taken advantage of his presence in NY to unite the various factions and to bring former stalwarts together.

Compromise and reconciliation with critics (overseas and domestic) are critical for the PPP especially if it is to recover lost support. The former PPP activists, turned critics, are not enemies of the party. They ought to be recognized for their hard work to help liberate Guyana from oppressive rule. On the issue of reconciliation, the PPP also needs to reach out to others who left (or were pushed out) for whatever reason. One name that comes to mind (and there are several including Lionel Peters, Sasenarine Singh, etc) is the experienced and highly respected Ralph Ramkarran. The PPP cannot afford to lose one vote and it will be very difficult for the party to win a majority in the next election without Ramkarran (given that Moses Nagamootoo is campaigning against the PPP) high in the line-up. And elections are not far away with Moses threatening a no confidence vote, the PNC saying it is ready for an election, and the PPP saying elections will be held soon. Reconciliation with constructive critics and former stalwarts, overseas activists, etc, is urgently needed by President Ramotar and General Secretary Clement Rohee in order to strengthen the party.

Yours faithfully,
Vishnu Bisram

In 1997 the PPP won a sympathy vote fr Cheddi.  Aside from 2006 when black people stayed home it ha sbeen down hill ever since.

Now your homework project is to find out the ACTUAL votes that the PPP recived in 1997, 2001,2006, and 2011. Every single election showed a DECLINE in votes for the PPP.  Yoyr % numbers indicate whether the PNC is able to get its voters out or not.  In 2006, they didnt, but in 2011, they did. 

Given that is a scarce two years ago and Ramotar is less charismatic than Jagdeo most will forecast continued high turn out among PNC supporters who feel that  Ramotar is even more racist than Jagdeo. And PPP turn out will remain soft as many Indians tire of the PPP, and younger Indians do not careless about Burnham.

On second thoughts youn will have a major cardiac event when you see how PPP support is declining since 1997.  So in 1997 the PPP got 221k, 2001, 209k, 2006, 182k, and 2011 they won 165k.

Now how you can scream that the PPP isnt in decline beats me.

Carib:

There is no question that in every election since 1997 the PPP has seen a decline in the total number of votes it has received.

BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE PNC SINCE 1997.

1997: 161K

2001: 165K

2006: 114K

2011: 139K

QUESTION:

Hasn't the PNC also seen a decline in the total number of votes it has received ?

Of course, in 2001, the PNC received 4K more votes than it did in 1997. And let's say the 114K votes in 2006 was an anomaly. But check out the 2011 votes---it was 139K.

FACT:

Both the 2 major parties have seen declines in the total number of votes they have received since 1997.

================

Listen carib. It is senseless to  look at just the overall number of votes each party has gotten in each election.

IT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL VOTES EACH PARTY RECEIVES THAT MATTERS.

* We know the PNC is a 40% party---the highest percentage of the votes they have ever received in a free and fair election was 42.3% in 1992.

BUT LET'S RETURN TO THE % THE PPP HAS GOTTEN SINCE 1992

53.5%---PPP in 1992

55.3%---PPP in 1997

53.0%---PPP in 2001

54.6%---PPP in 2006

48.6%---PPP in 2011

OBSERVATION:

* The % the PPP received went up from 1992 from 1997--53.5 to 55.3%

* The % the PPP received went down from 1997 to 2001

* The % the PPP received went up from 2001 to 2006

* The % the PPP received went down from 2006 to 2011

QUESTION:

You notice a trend their carib bai ?

Went up---went down---went up---went down

Do you care to guess what's next ?

What follows went down ?

That's right! Went up.hahaha

The % the PPP received in the next election will be higher than the 48.6% it received in 2011---99.99% chance it will be 50+%

Rev

PS. Don't argue numbers with the Rev again.hahahaha

The Guyanese populace have seen the sinister motives of the joint opposition and will be more than glad to vote the AFC/APNU to the political wilderness.

Anil Nandalal is a rising star in the PPP

I hear you're jalil also. You famous tarass, hehe

Seeing that your numbers along with your predictions are usually wrong, it is clear the PPP will be on the losing end this time around. The younger voters will be their downfall, they have done f-all for them while they fill their own pockets.

Keep up with the numbers Rev, we deh here laffin tarass.

The Guyanese populace without a shadow of a doubt, would entrust the PPP/C with the mantle of governance of over 51% to govern this land, thus ensuring progress continues.

Councee, teck wan needle and bore Ramo big belly and then weigh how much councee you get. hahahahaha.

Mitwah stop fooling yourself, you know to your gut you always vote PPP/C

I agree with Caribj. The PPP can make the point by just pointing at the great Progress and Freedom and they will be a Majority Govt.

Stabroek News, October 7, 2013

Dear Editor,

I was in the audience (as a scribe reporting for community publications) last Friday evening at the Queens public meeting where President Donald Ramotar updated the diaspora on the state of affairs in their homeland and fielded questions.Donald was booed a couple times (for remarks contrasting crime and sanitation with other countries and on corruption) and praised several times. What struck my attention was not what the President said but what he did not do or say. He failed to acknowledge and recognize the significant contributions of some towering New York-based personalities who helped to put the PPP into office and who played a critical role in the restoration of democracy in Guyana. He should have used his trip and or the speech to bring healing to and unite the disparate factions of the PPP’s support group, Association of Concerned Guyanese.

At the Ramotar public engagement, I saw former loyalists of the Association of Concerned Guyanese, support group of the PPP in America, who had a public fall-out with Mr Ramotar and who were very critical of him prior to the November 2011 elections. I know these individuals very well since 1977 having joined them (though I am not an ACG member) in protests, rallies, picketing exercises, etc, against the 24 year old PNC dictatorship. They were a small group but very dedicated to the cause and effective at organizing public actions and several of them attended numerous protest events and rallies organized by myself, Dr Baytoram Ramharack and Vassan Ramracha – all pioneers and founding fathers of the New York Guyanese revolutionary movement that helped to usher in democracy in the homeland. The PPP and Guyanese owe the ACG early activists (such as Arjune Karshan, Chuck Mohan, Mel Carpen, Joe Kanhai, Flatty Singh, Danny Singh, John Drepaul, ‘V’, etc), and later ones like Joe Kanhai, Abudul Hafeez, Chris Sarabit and his brother Michael, Samad Ally, individuals like Ramharack, Ramracha, Joe Ragnauth (DLM), Mahadeo Persaud, Dr Ravi Dev, Pandit Ramlall, Ramesh Kalicharran, Vishnu Bandhu, others activists of the WPA support group, etc a debt of gratitude for their commitment to the struggle. Political struggle was not easy. Very few people were interested in Guyana and we could not raise a dollar from them. Only a handful of us took up the cudgel — unrelenting in our activism to lobby international organizations and governments for the restoration of democracy in our former homeland. Even a Chinese Jamaican, Richard Chin, who joined us in the struggle, deserves kudos. Many of the activists suffered tremendously because of their commitment to the struggle – families were neglected and broken. Because they were so strongly wedded to the anti-dictatorial movement, some marriages ended in divorce. Some of the activists like Ramharack, Vassan, and myself gave virtually all of our financial resources to the movement; our incomes were used to fund activities and print literature for free public distribution. Virtually no New Yorker, apart from Karshan who served as Ambassador to Suriname for over 10 years, who partook in the revolution was ever recognized, honoured or rewarded for their immense contributions to the struggle. A few opportunists were highly rewarded. The ACG splintered after the restoration of democracy and the departure of Karshan who was the leader of the group for many years.

President Ramotar had a historic and unique opportunity last Friday to make a gesture to those former stalwarts of the struggle of the need for healing and a desire to reconcile factions. The presence of some of these ACG founders and activists, once critics of Mr Ramotar and former President Jagdeo, at the meeting was a clear signal of their desire for reconciliation with the PPP leadership but no one paid heed. President Ramotar should have taken advantage of his presence in NY to unite the various factions and to bring former stalwarts together.

Compromise and reconciliation with critics (overseas and domestic) are critical for the PPP especially if it is to recover lost support. The former PPP activists, turned critics, are not enemies of the party. They ought to be recognized for their hard work to help liberate Guyana from oppressive rule. On the issue of reconciliation, the PPP also needs to reach out to others who left (or were pushed out) for whatever reason. One name that comes to mind (and there are several including Lionel Peters, Sasenarine Singh, etc) is the experienced and highly respected Ralph Ramkarran. The PPP cannot afford to lose one vote and it will be very difficult for the party to win a majority in the next election without Ramkarran (given that Moses Nagamootoo is campaigning against the PPP) high in the line-up. And elections are not far away with Moses threatening a no confidence vote, the PNC saying it is ready for an election, and the PPP saying elections will be held soon. Reconciliation with constructive critics and former stalwarts, overseas activists, etc, is urgently needed by President Ramotar and General Secretary Clement Rohee in order to strengthen the party.

Yours faithfully,
Vishnu Bisram