THE PPP IS NOT INTERESTED IN A GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL UNITY

The PPP was deposed and the PNC have embarked on a policy of racism and persecution.  The PNC are on the ropes so why should the PPP rush to embrace them and bail them out.  If they want national unity, then stop with the racism, offer some key PPP leaders some key advisory or even decision-making roles.  Talk is cheap and the PNC thrives on "cheap-street" mentality.

I don't believe that ALL in the PPP are not interested in National Unity. I believe this statement is incorrect.

Anyone with a heart to see Guyana go forward from its present state,  will want to bring the people together in unity.

The PPP leaders might indicate that they will not participate in Social Cohesion, but I know many in the PPP who want to see peace and harmony in the country.

The PPP leaders don't reflect what many in the PPP feel about Guyana, but are afraid of being black listed and intimidated, if they speak out.

Recently, I was in touch with a long time friend in Guyana, a die-hard PPP supporter. He is tired and fed-up with  the animosity between the people in his community, as he said,  much was caused by racial politics and policies of the PPP, that they had an opportunity to correct.

I believe the leaders of the PPP create a scenario that is not supported by all in their party.

There is strong evidence of Jagdeo's negative leadership, as reflected by the youth and PPP officials attitude in Berbice. This might take generations to reverse.

Based on the National Unity feeling of many in the PPP, Jagdeo's leadership might not go over well for PPP support at the next election.     

No one could state it better, more direct and more accurate. TALK IS CHEAP WHEN IT COMES TO THE PNC AND FOOLS WHO DO NOT KNOW THIS ARE IN LA LA LAND!!!!

Recently, I was in touch with a long time friend in Guyana, a die-hard PPP supporter. He is tired and fed-up with  the animosity between the people in his community, as he said,  much was caused by racial politics and policies of the PPP, that they had an opportunity to correct.

yOUR FRIEND IS VERY naive TO SAY ONLY THE  PPP POLITICS AND POLICIES ARE THE CAUSES.

Nehru, he is a long time PPP supporter and he was speaking about the PPP.

Obviously, he also had strong disagreements about the government.

He believes in National Unity and feel all parties should come together for the sake of Guyana and form a National Government.

I tell you, all those traditional PPPites who ventured out from their safe home and under the Coalition [leaky] umbrella are wringing their hands in despair and regret.

Not all, but some and they are influencing their community.  

Can you direct me to one action, Policy since May 11 to demonstrate Nat front Govt??  Remember from above " Talk is CHEAP"

And let me remind you Dr Jagan was calling for such a thing for over 30 years and the PNC CRIMINALS did nothing , the TWO HOUSE SLAVES are just that!!!

 What distinguishes these elections from the others? This time the PPP faced its greatest challenge both by the significance of the broad multiracial coalition and the massive enthusiasm of Guyanese for the polls, a situation some pundits aver was not visible since the 1950s.

Undoubtedly, race played a significant role in this election of recent elections. The ruling party in government, the PPP, shamelessly resorted to unprecedented, unconcealed race rhetoric, once again raising the old bogey of the “dangerous” PNC (in effect scaring Indian Guyanese to fear the African Guyanese masses). Mostly led by former President Bharrat Jagdeo, this tactic was one of the worst exhibitions of openly racist politicking since the early 1960s.

In the final analysis Guyana voted for change. Apart from the people’s positive desire for change actively seen from the moment the APNU AFC decided on the coalition inspired by the Cummingsburg Accord and the resulting energy it created, what were other general contributing factors to the PPP’s defeat? In no particular order, I offer the following limited considerations.

1. The PPP’s arrogance in public office.
2. The party and government’s incapacity to work with the opposition and general inability to perform with competence and integrity.
3. Alienation of many members and supporters including erstwhile senior members of the PPP itself like Moses Nagamootoo and Khemraj Ramjattan.
4. A complete rejection of national unity attempts once the PPP settled into office and consequent disinterest in developing any multiracial vision for Guyana. This was manifest in the Presidency of Bharrat Jagdeo, who doubled down on the maladies of arrogance and patronage to offset organic development towards national unity.
5. In spite of general support from the Indo-Guyanese electorate, the PPP paradoxically demonstrated a form of disdain for and taken for grantedness of its base. Its assumption of recurring support also proved to be tactically true but undermined any strategic national consensus or unity platform for the future thereby hurting its support base in the long term.
6. A woefully inadequate foreign policy, exemplified by isolationism from CARICOM and loss of social and diplomatic capital with the influential ABC countries and openly determining Guyana’s diplomatic representation purely on the basis of support for the PPP.
7. Complete inertia in communicating with the nation evidenced in embarrassing press conferences and ministerial outbursts wanting in decorum. The PPP brought public communication to a new low.
8. The pervasive signs of corruption & money laundering. A lot has already been said about this monstrous new dimension to public life brought by the PPP into the very entrails of governance, and one that renowned economist Dr Clive Thomas has characterized as a “criminalised state”.
9. Subtle and open racism in party and state practices.
10. The blunt refusal to hold constitutionally required local government elections since 1994.
11. Refusal to accept and address deep social ills including the highest suicide rate in the world.
12. A large number of unsolved killings (including political assassinations) from 2003 to the execution of political activist Courtney Crum-Ewing earlier this year.
13. Willful and transparent neglect of the long degraded University of Guyana.
14. Full, uninhibited control over the state media and assigning of radio and television concessions inclusive of contracts to friends and family of the regime.
15. The complete erasure of any pretense at constitutional reform; the very same constitution that the PPP vigorously criticized while in opposition.
16. Self-glorification of the party and its leaders to the detriment of national unity.

http://www.stabroeknews.com/20...nger-guyanas-future/

People change Nehru, attitude change.

Its like an alcoholic who was dry for the past 20 years and still seen as a alcoholic.

Many see the present government as past PNC, they might see their initial actions as the past government, but don't give them time to prove themselves otherwise.

If they screw up royally, there is always the next election and I will support their removal.  

We tarnish people by their past and don't give them an opportunity to prove themselves, as changed persons.  I believe governments are the same.  

QUOTE: "The PPP was never interested in any government of national unity. It won in 1992 and dumped the idea. Despite the baptism of fire and violence that greeted the ascension to power of Bharrat Jagdeo in 1999, the PPP was never interested in a government of national unity.

Even after the PPP lost its parliamentary majority in 2011, it still frowned on a government of national unity. There is no reason to indicate that the PPP will be interested in such an idea now."

This paragraph alone sums up the PPP's attitude to national unity.

Indeed, when the PNCR under Hoyte and Corbin called for shared governance, the PPP said the PNCR wanted power "through the back door."

Last year, while parliament was prorogued, and before the APNU-AFC coalition talks, APNU Leader David Granger issued a statement calling for a government of national unity to break the deadlock in parliament. PPP de jure Leader Clement Rohee immediately poured scorn on Granger's call. It was in that scenario that APNU decided to work with the AFC, a move that led to the February 14 Cummingsburg Accord.

Also, I must point out that when Granger made his national unity call last year, our friend yuji22 was all for a APNU-PPP partnership, so strong was his hatred for Nagamootoo and Ramjattan. yuji's posts are in the GNI archives and are available to anyone who cares to look.

The Social Cohesion conference was a start to initiate inclusiveness in a national program.

I have to go, more later. 

Racism started the day after 11th May 2015 when Granger start firing many senior Indian officials and replace them with Blacks. Without the two traitors of the AFC joining the PNC there would be no coalition government. Take a good look of the ethnic make up of the present government and you see one dominant race, yet you ask for unity. When the PPP was in government, what support they got from AFC/APNU, NONE, and you ask for unity.The country is being Africanise, the other races means nothing. INDIAN LIVES MATTER.Lets start looking in the Mirror.

I won't waste my time responding to your nonsense. you are just another troll.

kp replied to this topic:

mendacious but extraordinarily stupid!

4months on and PPP spear carriers continue to shed IQ points by the day

smh

True, around 95%.

There aren't any clear indications that the government is really interested in national unity. Maybe time will provide clearer evidence of its intentions. Lets wait and see.

This Govt just talks and assume that makes it fact.  They are into institutional thievery of rice farmers' funds and assume refusal to answer makes them clean.  Granger talks unity but act divisively.  This Govt is slowly descending into old PNC despotism.  They have big problems if they don't change their direction.

exactly what "indications" do you feel are lacking?

YUH PRAPA STUPID!!  ESL Classes are FREE at any Community College!!!!!!

"CapsLk" antiman . . . is how much different man u picking up fire rage fuh pan dis BB?

Yuh Aunty tell yuh bout last night?????????

suh nehru, tell abee nuh . . . u servicing baseman and ksazma, or is autofellatio involved?

Fool yourself that Granger really wants a Gov't of National Unity with the PPP.  If he did, he would have led the discussions with Jagdeo, sending his boy Harmon.

He is going through the motions, maybe in response to certain well meaning, but misguided people who think that Guyana's racial angst will be solved if the political elites coalesce.

And the PPP isn't as strong as you think it is.  The Indian population is shrinking, and the PPPs "coolie party" behavior guarantees that it will lack appeal to the fast growing mixed population.

With an Indian population now at 40%, and with an Indian voting population reaching that by 2020, how do you think that a monoracial appeal will help.

You and seignet can play warrior online, and pretend that you have the testicular fortitude to confront blackman, but given that by 2020 30% of the voters will identify with neither, I don't see how relevant that is.

I am not into tekkin Buggering like you.  I deal with women ONLY. You should thank Obama for not having to fear but stay far from Buju Banton.

I doubt very much Ksazma does look fuh man like you.

that's really not answering my question bai

THere is a difference between the real and the imagined. It is the real PPP racist strategies that got their own people to jump ship. Hypocrites like you who squatted on your arse and cheered those racists on now complain about imagined slights and presumed incompetence. But that is another story.

The reality of what kinds of people we deal with is magnified to its awful and stark  obsequious pretensions to virtue by what you consider is their means to an end; take advantage of any determined weakness of the opponents to secure power. National unity is not a virtuous objective. It is just a mouthful of words  one use to mask true desires.

The PPP will lose again. They have no moral standing if as you precisely describe them, are grossly opportunistic politicians using the state as their prize...in this case and ethnic prize.

Your numerous invites to men (Kari etc) on this BB for lil buggering is proof yuh does flirt around with man, arite Pavi Jenner?

The gentleman is precisely on target. You are a moron.

A national unity government is not in Guyana's best interests given the quality of Guyanese politicans. A unity government will in effect be a solid union of TEEF MAN, robbing Guyanese blind! Yes, it can actually be worse. An opposition party is needed to supply the other side of the story and examine deals.

Having said that, I believe unity among races is best acheived by having civic organizations, houses of worship etc. work in a concerted effort to campaign and educate against racism. The government can aid with anti discrimination laws, bias crime laws, equal opportunity employment practices and so on.

This was an era when the Indo KKK were convinced that blacks would never again have an opportunity to play a role in leading Guyana, and would at best be second class citizens. The focus then was on traitorous Indians who were attempting to flee the PPP camp.

So while yuji, cobra, and rama sexually excite themselves in rounds of sadomasochism about being brutalized by "blackman", then their rage was against Indians who didn't tow the PPP line.

So yes the Indian faction of the AFC was the big enemy then.  Now they are being portrayed as toothless slaves of blackman.

I do happen to believe, and have already said, that Nagamootoo's failure to bring in his "11%" Indian vote has reduced his dominance of the AFC, and his influence within APNU/AFC.

Kaz, this is beneath you. Where in the world does any one need to validate to the satisfaction of the   party with whom they are in conflict  that they  have "good intentions" other than in a desire to sit down? Lets be be clear...no intellectual premise exists for such. Anyone claiming they want good faith showing ought to show the same by sitting their asrses down and explain what the hell that is. That is the only prerequisite to conflict resolution.

You are on target there based on the premise of these idiots on this board that National Unity is reduced to elites sharing the offices of t he state.

National unity can mean sitting down and forging ways to get beyond elite accommodation to devolved people powered government. It can take many forms but that is why these idiots need to sit down and break bread. The fools here have racist prerogatives in front of or underpinning their idea of moral and just offices of the state.

Indeed its a fact that the political elites aren't as divided as they pretend to be.  Burnham and Jagan remained friends, and who can forget Jagdeo's screams when it appeared as if the PNC was going to dump Corbin.

What Guyana needs is strong civic society. This is what Trinidad has, which is why its ethno political divide has been less negative than it has been for Guyana.  The concept of national unity, meaning a JOINT sense of nationhood,  should be led by CIVIC society and not by political elites.

What do we have in Guyana because we let political elites define who we are.  A sense that one's Guyaneseness is defined by which political party one supports.  So that if one attended an event aimed at celebrating the Guyanese identity, that was quickly coopted to imply support for the PPP. 

When Jamaicans meet at the annual Independence banquet in NY BOTH JLP and PNP supporters show up because they are JAMAICANS.  Similar events in NY organized by Guyanese quickly devolve into attempts to imply support for the ruling party.   And I fear that this continues today.

Is that another of yours, or the PPP fabricated figure ?

Come to Berbice/Essequibo and talk to the people, don't only believe what Jagdeo  tells you.  

Isn't the AFC and the PNC with 9 other parties made up a government of national unity?  but what the  jackasses in the PNC want is to stifle opposition just like they do in a one party state.