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Baseman posted:
Chief posted:
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:

Well tell that to your terrorists compatriates in Saudi and Paki!

Have you ever been to India, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia ? If yes, where did you go and how long were you there ??

I see you asked the same question to Yuji.

I lived in India for several years, travelled to almost every corner except Assam.  I lived through the Bombay terror attacks of 2008.  I was prohibited from Paki by my company due to the terror risk.

Now, what does that have to do with Saudi and Paki terrorism?

Because you do not know anything about the Islamic people and their way of life.The Ganges shit  water pollute your brain.

Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels.”   Just look at you, one who just justified terrorism in Jammu-Kashmir saying you preach peace.  That sounds like a Hitler mantra!

Banna most Islamist are intolerant of other faiths!

You are nothing but a hateful and bigoted moron !

Provide verifiable record(s) or evidence to support your statements:

1) Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels.”  

2) most Islamist are intolerant of other faiths, and

3) define 'Islamist'.

K

Keff,

How would you define the person or persons who committed the act of terror on the 40 Indian soldiers ?

Please be specific and answer this question directly before we can talk about other broader issues regarding this conflict.

Do you consider them as freedom fighters ?

Or

Do you consider them as terrorists ?

The conversation can move to broader issues only when you provide a direct and truthful answer. 

FM
Prashad posted:

The Pakistan army rescued the Indian pilot from death at the hands of people in Azad Kashmir. I have noticed that the Russians are now on the internet defending their junk planes that they dump on India.

Junk planes? Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. The Mig-21, at it's heyday was a formidable opponent. That was a couple of decades ago. Even with upgrading the Avionics it's obsolete today. Maybe not for ground support but certainly for a dogfight against an F-16. The question is, what idiot sent a knife to a gunfight?

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
Prashad posted:

The Pakistan army rescued the Indian pilot from death at the hands of people in Azad Kashmir. I have noticed that the Russians are now on the internet defending their junk planes that they dump on India.

Junk planes? Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. The Mig-21, at it's heyday was a formidable opponent. That was a couple of decades ago. Even with upgrading the Avionics it's obsolete today. Maybe not for ground support but certainly for a dogfight against an F-16. The question is, what idiot sent a knife to a gunfight?

In its hay day, yes.  But it’s long past it’s prime.  When India decides to penetrate Paki airstrip, they need the later versions of Migs, Mirages and Su’s.  Pakistan is a formidable country!

FM

List of active Indian military aircraft

The following list of active Indian military aircraft is a list of military aircraft currently in service with the Indian Armed Forces. For a list of historical aircraft used by the Indian Military, see list of historical aircraft of the Indian Air Force.

Indian Air Force

Further information: Indian Air Force
TypeOriginRoleVersionNumberNotes
Sukhoi Su-30MKIRussia
India
Multirole air superiority fighterSu-30MKI224[1][2]A total of 272 aircraft on order,[3] All aircraft to be upgraded to Super Sukhoi standards and inducted by 2020.[4]
HAL TejasIndiaMultirole combat aircraftMk.1
Trainer
2[5]
1[5]
103 LCA (20 x Mk. 1 + 83 x Mk. 1-A) aircraft to be acquired.[6] Final operational certification (FOC) scheduled for early-mid 2017.[7] 2 Mk.1 aircraft inducted; SP-3 ready for induction. Full squadron of 20 Mk.1 aircraft to be introduced by 2018; improved Mk.1-A to be introduced from 2020-21.[7][8]
Mikoyan MiG-29USSRFighterMiG-29UPG66[9]Air defence fighter. Initial B/UB variants have been upgraded to MiG-29UPG standards[10] To be retired by 2030.[11]
Dassault Mirage 2000FranceMultirole fighterM2000H
M2000TH
M2000I/TI
39[9]
9[9]
2[12]
Being upgraded.[13] To be retired by 2030.[4]
SEPECAT JaguarUK
India
AttackM/S
T
115[9]
30[9][14]
Service-life upgrades to be completed by 2020.[15] Also operated in a naval strike role.[16] To be retired by 2030.[4]
Mikoyan MiG-27ML BahadurUSSRAttackMiG-27ML87[9]All non-upgraded aircraft to be retired in 2016; remaining aircraft to be retired by 2017-18.[17] To be replaced by HAL Tejas.[4][15][18]
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21USSR
India
FighterMiG21Bison
MiG21MF
245[9]MiG-21MF ("Type 88") and one squadron of upgraded MiG-21 Bisons to be retired by 2017-18.[11][19][20] Remaining 132 aircraft to be retired by 2022.[4][15][21] To be replaced by the HAL Tejas.
Boeing C-17 Globemaster IIIUSAStrategic transportC-1710[9]Total 10 ordered with option for 6 more. Ordered only 3 later with delays in clearing funds for further 3. When funds were cleared, Boeing had only 1 more on its production line.[22]
Ilyushin Il-76MDUSSRStrategic transportIl-76MD17[9] 
Lockheed C-130J Super HerculesUSATactical transportC-130J-30SH5[9]7 more on order.[9] This is inclusive of 1 additional aircraft ordered in August 2014 to replace the loss of a crashed C-130J.[23]
Hawker Siddeley HS 748UK
India
Tactical transportHS 748-10059[9]To be replaced with 56 EADS CASA C-295aircraft.[24]
Antonov An-32UkraineTactical transportAn-32
An-32RE
60[9]
40[25]
All to be upgraded to An-32RE standard by 2016 (60 to be upgraded locally and 40 upgraded in Ukraine).
Dornier Do 228Germany
India
Utility transportDo 228-20140[9]14 more ordered in February 2015.[26]
Boeing 737-2A8 AdvUSAVIP transport737-2A8 Adv1 
Boeing 737-700USAVIP transport737-7003 
Embraer ERJ 135BrazilVIP transportERJ 1354 
Embraer ERJ 145BrazilVIP transportERJ 1454 
Ilyushin Il-78 MKIRussia[Note 1]Aerial refuelingIL-78MKI7[9] 
Beriev A-50EIRussia[Note 2]AEW&CA-50E/I3[9]2 more on order.[9]
Embraer ERJ-145 AEWCSBrazil[Note 3]AEW&C 22 currently undergoing testing by DRDO and IAF. 1 more to be delivered.[27]
Gulfstream IIIUSAElectronic warfareIV SRA-43[9]Operated by the R&AW, India's external intelligence agency.
Bombardier Global 5000Canada[Note 4]ReconnaissanceGlobal 50002[28]Operated by the R&AW, India's external intelligence agency.
Israel Aircraft Industries AstraIsraelReconnaissanceG1002[9] 
BAE HawkUK
India
TrainerHawk 13290[29][30]15 more to be delivered.[29] Deliveries expected to be complete by the end of 2016.[31]
HAL HJT-16 KiranIndiaTrainerHJT-16
HJT-16II
81[9]To be phased out by 2017 and eventually be replaced by BAE Hawk (20 Hawks currently on order).[29][32]
Pilatus PC-7 MkIISwitzerlandTrainerMk II75All aircraft delivered by November 2015.[33] A further 106 may be ordered.[34]
Pipistrel VirusSloveniaTrainerSW 80 Garud2[35][36]Total 72 on order.[37][38]
Mil Mi-35USSRAttackMi-3520[9]Few donated to Afghanistan Armed Forces. To be eventually replaced by Boeing AH-64E Apache.[39]
HAL RudraIndiaAttackALH-WSI7Total of 38 on order.
HAL Light Combat HelicopterIndiaAttackLCH3 prototypes65 on order.[9] 3 prototypes delivered.[40]
Mil Mi-26USSRTransportMi-263[9]Will be complemented by Boeing CH-47 Chinookof which 15 are ordered.
Mil Mi-8USSRTransport helicopterMi-8400+ 
Mil Mi-17RussiaTransport helicopterMi-17V5400+[41]Additional 48 Mi-17V5s may be ordered.[42]
HAL DhruvIndiaUtilityDhruv66[43]65 more on order.[9]
HAL CheetahIndiaUtilityCheetah14[9] 
HAL ChetakIndiaUtilitySA316B
SA319
74[9] 

Indian Naval Air Arm

TypeOriginRoleVersionNumber[9]Notes
Mikoyan MiG-29KRussiaMultirole fighterMiG-29K
MiG-29KUB
39[44]6 more on order.[44]
Boeing P-8 PoseidonUSAPatrolP-8I Neptune8[9]4 more to be delivered.[45]
Tupolev Tu-142USSRPatrolTu-142M8[9]Being modernised in Russia.[46]
Ilyushin Il-38USSRPatrolIl-38SD5[9]All five Sea Dragon variants are being overhauled, and will include a further minor upgrade.[47]
Dornier Do 228Germany
India
UtilityDo 228-101
Do 228-201
25[9]12 more on order [48]
Britten-Norman Turbine-IslanderUKUtilityBN-2T8[9] 
BAE HawkUKTrainerHawk 13211[49]6 more to be delivered. A total of 17 on order.[49]
HAL HJT-16 KiranIndiaTrainer 20[9]To be replaced by the new HAL HJT-36 Sitara.
Pipistrel VirusSloveniaTrainerSW 80 Total 12 on order.[37][38]
Kamov Ka-31RussiaAirborne early warning 14[9] 
Kamov Ka-28RussiaAnti-submarine warfareKa-28 (Ka-27PL)14[9] 
Westland Sea KingUKAnti-submarine warfare
Transport
Mk42B
Mk42C
22[9]
5[9]
 
Sikorsky SH-3 Sea KingUSATransportUH-3H6[9] 
HAL DhruvIndiaUtility 8[9]16 more on order.[9]
HAL ChetakIndiaUtilitySA316B
SA319
30[9] 

Army Aviation Corps

Further information: Army Aviation Corps (India)
TypeOriginRoleVersionNumber[9]Notes
HAL RudraIndiaAttackALH-WSI2040 more on order.[50]
HAL Light Combat HelicopterIndiaAttackLCHPrototypes are being built114 on order.[9]
HAL DhruvIndiaUtility 78[43]Total of 151 on order.[9]
HAL CheetahIndiaUtilityCheetah23[9]Being replaced by HAL Cheetal and Lancer.
HAL CheetalIndiaUtilityCheetal4Hal Cheetah manufactured with HAL Turbomecca TM 333-2M2 Shakti engine.
HAL LancerIndiaAttackLancer12Armed version of HAL Cheetal.
HAL ChetakIndiaUtilityChetak4[9]Being withdrawn from service and replaced by HAL Dhruv.
HAL ChetanIndiaUtilityChetan4[9]Hal Chetak manufacture with HAL Turbomecca TM 333-2M2 Shakti engine.

Indian Coast Guard

Further information: Indian Coast Guard
TypeOriginRoleVersionNumberNotes
Dornier Do 228India GermanyReconnaissanceMaritime38Being upgraded.
HAL DhruvIndiaUtility 4More Being ordered.
HAL ChetakIndiaUtilityChetak18Being withdrawn from service and replaced by HAL Dhruv.

NCC Air Wing

Further information: National Cadet Corps (India)
TypeOriginRoleVersionNumberNotes
Zenith STOL CH 701CanadaTrainerSTOL CH 701 AC85[51] 
Pipistrel Virus SW 80SloveniaTrainerVirus SW 80 Total 110 on order.[37][38]

Border Security Force

TypeOriginRoleVersionNumberNotes
Hawker Siddeley HS 748UK
India
Tactical transportHS 748-1002As of 2009.[52]
Beechcraft Super King AirUSAUtility aircraftB2001crashed in December 2015

[52]

Embraer ERJ 135BrazilVIP transportEmbraer-135 J2As of 2009.[53]
HAL DhruvIndiaUtility helicopter 8As of 2009.[52]
Mil Mi-17USSR
Russia
Transport helicopterMi-17
Mi-17V5
6
2
As of 2009.[52]
As of 2014.[54]

Unmanned Aerial Vehicles

Note: The Indian Armed Forces operate a number of Unmanned aerial vehicles split between the three service branches.

TypeClassRoleVersionNumberNotes
IAI HarpyIsraelAttack 5+A small UCAV that homes into enemy radar emissions - destroying both itself and the enemy radar. In service with Indian Air Force.
IAI HaropIsraelUAVAttack10A small UCAV that homes into enemy radar emissions - destroying both itself and the enemy radar. In service with Indian Air Force.
IAI HeronIsrael Heron I
Heron II
50+In service with Indian Air Force and Indian Navy. 15 more ordered in December 2013.
IAI SearcherIsrael Searcher II
Searcher I
100+In service with the Indian Army.
DRDO NishantIndia  12+In service with the Indian Army.
DRDO LakshyaIndiaAerial target 39A small target drone in service with the Indian Air Force and Indian Navy.[55]

 

FM
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FM
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:

Well tell that to your terrorists compatriates in Saudi and Paki!

Have you ever been to India, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia ? If yes, where did you go and how long were you there ??

I see you asked the same question to Yuji.

I lived in India for several years, travelled to almost every corner except Assam.  I lived through the Bombay terror attacks of 2008.  I was prohibited from Paki by my company due to the terror risk.

Now, what does that have to do with Saudi and Paki terrorism?

It has nothing to do with Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but it most definitely has lots to do with your ignorance and shameless bigotry ! I am willing to bet that 1) I have traveled far more widely than you have in India and 2) given your outrageous ignorance, hate and bigotry, the sub-continent must have been considerably better off after you left ! Can you name one incident of terrorism for which Saudi Arabia was responsible ? You have the unbridled gall to make mention of Pakistan terrorism; was your mouth in someone’s rectum when Indian troops invaded Kashmir on many occasions and brutally ill-treated Kashmiris; men, women and children ? What did you do or say when Narender Modi bluntly refused to call on the Indian army to rescue hundreds of Muslims on a train that was attacked by hordes of rampaging Hindus ? Close to 250 people died in that incident; you must have been delighted ! Do you have no shame in you; no humanity or remorse for supporting such heinous acts of barbarism ? Is that what you will proudly impart to your children to mould their characters as they grow up ? What kind of man are you to hate millions of people who do not know ? Is there not even a tiny spark of humanity in you; are you incapable of imagining how you would feel if your mother or your father or your child was caught in such a situation ? What kind of a man are you ? Is there not something in you that quietly tells you that there is something terribly wrong with your thinking ? What kind of man are you ? What is it that makes you hate people who you do not know; who you have never met and will most likely ever see ?

K
Last edited by Keffer
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:

Well tell that to your terrorists compatriates in Saudi and Paki!

Have you ever been to India, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia ? If yes, where did you go and how long were you there ??

I see you asked the same question to Yuji.

I lived in India for several years, travelled to almost every corner except Assam.  I lived through the Bombay terror attacks of 2008.  I was prohibited from Paki by my company due to the terror risk.

Now, what does that have to do with Saudi and Paki terrorism?

It has nothing to do with Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but it most definitely has lots to do with your ignorance and shameless bigotry ! I am willing to bet that 1) I have traveled far more widely than you have in India and 2) given your outrageous ignorance, hate and bigotry, the sub-continent must have been considerably better off after you left ! Can you name one incident of terrorism for which Saudi Arabia was responsible ? You have the unbridled gall to make mention of Pakistan terrorism; was your mouth in someone’s rectum when Indian troops invaded Kashmir on many occasions and brutally ill-treated Kashmiris; men, women and children ? What did you do or say when Narender Modi bluntly refused to call on the Indian army to rescue hundreds of Muslims on a train that was attacked by hordes of rampaging Hindus ? Close to 250 people died in that incident; you must have been delighted ! Do you have no shame in you; no humanity or remorse for supporting such heinous acts of barbarism ? Is that what you will proudly impart to your children to mould their characters as they grow up ? What kind of man are you to hate millions of people who do not know ? Is there not even a tiny spark of humanity in you; are you incapable of imagining how you would feel if your mother or your father or your child was caught in such a situation ? What kind of a man are you ? Is there not something in you that quietly tells you that there is something terribly wrong with your thinking ? What kind of man are you ? What is it that makes you hate people who you do not know; who you have never met and will most likely ever see ?

Well why are you always asking if people visited India, Pakistan or SA.  Seems it's your litmus test!!

Anyway, you said one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  My question to you, which remains outstanding for two days:

- Whose freedom were the 9/11 terrorist fighting for?

- Whose freedom were the Bombay terrorists fighting for?

FM
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

K
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:

Well tell that to your terrorists compatriates in Saudi and Paki!

Have you ever been to India, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia ? If yes, where did you go and how long were you there ??

I see you asked the same question to Yuji.

I lived in India for several years, travelled to almost every corner except Assam.  I lived through the Bombay terror attacks of 2008.  I was prohibited from Paki by my company due to the terror risk.

Now, what does that have to do with Saudi and Paki terrorism?

It has nothing to do with Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but it most definitely has lots to do with your ignorance and shameless bigotry ! I am willing to bet that 1) I have traveled far more widely than you have in India and 2) given your outrageous ignorance, hate and bigotry, the sub-continent must have been considerably better off after you left ! Can you name one incident of terrorism for which Saudi Arabia was responsible ? You have the unbridled gall to make mention of Pakistan terrorism; was your mouth in someone’s rectum when Indian troops invaded Kashmir on many occasions and brutally ill-treated Kashmiris; men, women and children ? What did you do or say when Narender Modi bluntly refused to call on the Indian army to rescue hundreds of Muslims on a train that was attacked by hordes of rampaging Hindus ? Close to 250 people died in that incident; you must have been delighted ! Do you have no shame in you; no humanity or remorse for supporting such heinous acts of barbarism ? Is that what you will proudly impart to your children to mould their characters as they grow up ? What kind of man are you to hate millions of people who do not know ? Is there not even a tiny spark of humanity in you; are you incapable of imagining how you would feel if your mother or your father or your child was caught in such a situation ? What kind of a man are you ? Is there not something in you that quietly tells you that there is something terribly wrong with your thinking ? What kind of man are you ? What is it that makes you hate people who you do not know; who you have never met and will most likely ever see ?

Well why are you always asking if people visited India, Pakistan or SA.  Seems it's your litmus test!!

Anyway, you said one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  My question to you, which remains outstanding for two days:

- Whose freedom were the 9/11 terrorist fighting for?

- Whose freedom were the Bombay terrorists fighting for?

Call it whatever you like; given the number of times that I have visited that part of the world and the nature of work that I do, it makes perfect sense to obtain an understanding of the knowledge/experience of other participants who are engaged in discussions on the subject. With respect to your questions; these are completely asinine because I was not in any way whatsoever involved in or participated in any of these events. Maybe you were so you can tell us ! Were you involved in the massacre of Muslims, who you quite evidently hate, when Modi refused to call in the army to support the police ? 

K
Last edited by Keffer
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

Keffer stop the BS. Enough is enough those Kashmiris should all be expelled from India. Let them go to Pakistan where they will experience paradise. India too soft with them. Look at this ungrateful keffer. India allowed him on their soil. He ate their food and slept in their beds. Then he  takes multiple sh-ts on their head with his ISI radical hate propaganda towards weaker nations.

 

Prashad
Last edited by Prashad
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:

Well tell that to your terrorists compatriates in Saudi and Paki!

Have you ever been to India, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia ? If yes, where did you go and how long were you there ??

I see you asked the same question to Yuji.

I lived in India for several years, travelled to almost every corner except Assam.  I lived through the Bombay terror attacks of 2008.  I was prohibited from Paki by my company due to the terror risk.

Now, what does that have to do with Saudi and Paki terrorism?

It has nothing to do with Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but it most definitely has lots to do with your ignorance and shameless bigotry ! I am willing to bet that 1) I have traveled far more widely than you have in India and 2) given your outrageous ignorance, hate and bigotry, the sub-continent must have been considerably better off after you left ! Can you name one incident of terrorism for which Saudi Arabia was responsible ? You have the unbridled gall to make mention of Pakistan terrorism; was your mouth in someone’s rectum when Indian troops invaded Kashmir on many occasions and brutally ill-treated Kashmiris; men, women and children ? What did you do or say when Narender Modi bluntly refused to call on the Indian army to rescue hundreds of Muslims on a train that was attacked by hordes of rampaging Hindus ? Close to 250 people died in that incident; you must have been delighted ! Do you have no shame in you; no humanity or remorse for supporting such heinous acts of barbarism ? Is that what you will proudly impart to your children to mould their characters as they grow up ? What kind of man are you to hate millions of people who do not know ? Is there not even a tiny spark of humanity in you; are you incapable of imagining how you would feel if your mother or your father or your child was caught in such a situation ? What kind of a man are you ? Is there not something in you that quietly tells you that there is something terribly wrong with your thinking ? What kind of man are you ? What is it that makes you hate people who you do not know; who you have never met and will most likely ever see ?

Well why are you always asking if people visited India, Pakistan or SA.  Seems it's your litmus test!!

Anyway, you said one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  My question to you, which remains outstanding for two days:

- Whose freedom were the 9/11 terrorist fighting for?

- Whose freedom were the Bombay terrorists fighting for?

Call it whatever you like; given the number of times that I have visited that part of the world and the nature of work that I do, it makes perfect sense to obtain an understanding of the knowledge/experience of other participants who are engaged in discussions on the subject. With respect to your questions; these are completely asinine because I was not in any way whatsoever involved in or participated in any of these events. Maybe you were so you can tell us ! Were you involved in the massacre of Muslims, who you quite evidently hate, when Modi refused to call in the army to support the police ? 

I’m not saying you were involved.  That’s an asinine comment on your part. Had you been involved you would not be here. 

You said one mans terrorists is another freedom fighter.  I asked you, these two major acts of terror, whose freedom were they fighting for!

The fact that you are unable or unwilling to answer says a lot.  And you wondering what we teach our kids?   We should worry about your type of mindset!

FM
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

Keffer stop the BS. Enough is enough those Kashmiris should all be expelled from India. Let them go to Pakistan where they will experience paradise. India too soft with them. Look at this ungrateful keffer. India allowed him on their soil. He ate their food and slept in their beds. Then he  takes multiple sh-ts on their head with his ISI radical hate propaganda towards weaker nations.

He is full of sh1t!  And to believe he flies aircraft!  Scary!

FM
Baseman posted:
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

Keffer stop the BS. Enough is enough those Kashmiris should all be expelled from India. Let them go to Pakistan where they will experience paradise. India too soft with them. Look at this ungrateful keffer. India allowed him on their soil. He ate their food and slept in their beds. Then he  takes multiple sh-ts on their head with his ISI radical hate propaganda towards weaker nations.

He is full of sh1t!  And to believe he flies aircraft!  Scary!

You shameless ignoramus, those people are indigenous to the area ! Is there no decency or any sense of propriety left in you ? Is that what you teach your children and others ? Prejudice and hate have clearly reduced your thinking to a latrine level; appropriate for the latrine cleaner Prashad  ! What I do in India and several other countries is via the United Nations ! You evidently know better than the UN so why don't you tell us what you have done to alleviate the suffering of poor people; not only in India but anywhere else. In Guyana, jackasses like you are commonly referred to as 'blo-blo'; you have lots of big talk but take no action because all you do is permeate the environment with your bigoted, prejudiced and filthy rubbish ! DUMB-ASS, where I go and what I do ultimately results in improvement in the lives of human being ! You have no concept whatsoever of how that impacts poor people because the combination of prejudice, ignorance and hate has made your tiny brain in nothing but a large lump of shyte ! You are nothing but a shameless, hate-filled, bigoted dunce so get lost, you bigoted lump of excrement !

K
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Baseman posted:
GTAngler posted:
Prashad posted:

The Pakistan army rescued the Indian pilot from death at the hands of people in Azad Kashmir. I have noticed that the Russians are now on the internet defending their junk planes that they dump on India.

Junk planes? Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. The Mig-21, at it's heyday was a formidable opponent. That was a couple of decades ago. Even with upgrading the Avionics it's obsolete today. Maybe not for ground support but certainly for a dogfight against an F-16. The question is, what idiot sent a knife to a gunfight?

In its hay day, yes.  But it’s long past it’s prime.  When India decides to penetrate Paki airstrip, they need the later versions of Migs, Mirages and Su’s.  Pakistan is a formidable country!

Has anyone stopped to think that this might have been a deliberate move on Modi's part risking the lives of his pilots to gain support for the purchase of the French Rafales? India has better aircraft, why not use them? Also, India chose to upgrade the Russian "junk" as Prashad puts it.

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
GTAngler posted:
Prashad posted:

The Pakistan army rescued the Indian pilot from death at the hands of people in Azad Kashmir. I have noticed that the Russians are now on the internet defending their junk planes that they dump on India.

Junk planes? Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. The Mig-21, at it's heyday was a formidable opponent. That was a couple of decades ago. Even with upgrading the Avionics it's obsolete today. Maybe not for ground support but certainly for a dogfight against an F-16. The question is, what idiot sent a knife to a gunfight?

In its hay day, yes.  But it’s long past it’s prime.  When India decides to penetrate Paki airstrip, they need the later versions of Migs, Mirages and Su’s.  Pakistan is a formidable country!

Has anyone stopped to think that this might have been a deliberate move on Modi's part risking the lives of his pilots to gain support for the purchase of the French Rafales? India has better aircraft, why not use them? Also, India chose to upgrade the Russian "junk" as Prashad puts it.

Interesting point.  They do have much better frontline aircrafts!  Why they sent it Mig21s?   However, I doubt Modi will be telling the military how to fight.  The Indian military is an institution separate and apart from any Govt in India!  As long as the fight is on, they decide on the what and how!

FM
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

Keffer stop the BS. Enough is enough those Kashmiris should all be expelled from India. Let them go to Pakistan where they will experience paradise. India too soft with them. Look at this ungrateful keffer. India allowed him on their soil. He ate their food and slept in their beds. Then he  takes multiple sh-ts on their head with his ISI radical hate propaganda towards weaker nations.

He is full of sh1t!  And to believe he flies aircraft!  Scary!

You shameless ignoramus, those people are indigenous to the area ! Is there no decency or any sense of propriety left in you ? Is that what you teach your children and others ? Prejudice and hate have clearly reduced your thinking to a latrine level; appropriate for the latrine cleaner Prashad  ! What I do in India and several other countries is via the United Nations ! You evidently know better than the UN so why don't you tell us what you have done to alleviate the suffering of poor people; not only in India but anywhere else. In Guyana, jackasses like you are commonly referred to as 'blo-blo'; you have lots of big talk but take no action because all you do is permeate the environment with your bigoted, prejudiced and filthy rubbish ! DUMB-ASS, where I go and what I do ultimately results in improvement in the lives of human being ! You have no concept whatsoever of how that impacts poor people because the combination of prejudice, ignorance and hate has made your tiny brain in nothing but a large lump of shyte ! You are nothing but a shameless, hate-filled, bigoted dunce so get lost, you bigoted lump of excrement !

Soooo, whose freedom was the 9/11 and the Bombay were fighting for?   Isn’t this a simple binary question?

FM
Prashad posted:

They are Arabs Pakistan say that  they Kashmiris have a different colour. White skin same as white Arabs as opposed to Indian black skin, so shove off and get the hell off of the Indo Aryan and Dravidian soil. Keffer you may be an ISI nut wall. But you are dumb like a church rat on a Sunday also.

 

What is "Arabs Pakistan say that  they Kashmiris have a different colour" ?My ongoing advice to you, Prashad; is to stay with your latrine-cleaning routine and desist from getting into discussions, the subjects of which you are so woefully ignorant ! Furthermore, quit with your puerile rubbish about "Arabs Pakistanis"; there is no such thing or people, you hard-headed dumb-ass ! No self-respecting individual will shamelessly post trash such as what the bigot/hater Baseman did ! His 'handle' matches his degenerate mentality perfectly !                                    One more thing, Mr. Latrine Cleaner, you can only dream about what I am, what I know, where I have been and what I have done; so stay with your latrine cleaning before your superiors deport your sorry ass !  

K
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Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

Keffer stop the BS. Enough is enough those Kashmiris should all be expelled from India. Let them go to Pakistan where they will experience paradise. India too soft with them. Look at this ungrateful keffer. India allowed him on their soil. He ate their food and slept in their beds. Then he  takes multiple sh-ts on their head with his ISI radical hate propaganda towards weaker nations.

He is full of sh1t!  And to believe he flies aircraft!  Scary!

You shameless ignoramus, those people are indigenous to the area ! Is there no decency or any sense of propriety left in you ? Is that what you teach your children and others ? Prejudice and hate have clearly reduced your thinking to a latrine level; appropriate for the latrine cleaner Prashad  ! What I do in India and several other countries is via the United Nations ! You evidently know better than the UN so why don't you tell us what you have done to alleviate the suffering of poor people; not only in India but anywhere else. In Guyana, jackasses like you are commonly referred to as 'blo-blo'; you have lots of big talk but take no action because all you do is permeate the environment with your bigoted, prejudiced and filthy rubbish ! DUMB-ASS, where I go and what I do ultimately results in improvement in the lives of human being ! You have no concept whatsoever of how that impacts poor people because the combination of prejudice, ignorance and hate has made your tiny brain in nothing but a large lump of shyte ! You are nothing but a shameless, hate-filled, bigoted dunce so get lost, you bigoted lump of excrement !

Soooo, whose freedom was the 9/11 and the Bombay were fighting for?   Isn’t this a simple binary question?

What an unbelievably monstrous jackass you are ! Does your foul stupidity not have any limits ? What has 9/11 have to do with this discussion ? With every letter and every word that you post, you shamelessly expose your lack of education, character  and your dismal stupidity ! Your time would be much better spent grazing with your family in a pasture !

K

Someone is making some big money from this Kashmir conflict. For example;why does Pakistan need to buy 14 F16 multirole fighter planes from Jordan when Jordan is selling out their F16 fighter planes so that they can replace them with stealth multirole fighter planes. Pakistan already has access to the latest Chinese made stealth multirole fighter planes plus they had 89 F 16 fighter planes already why do they need 14 more used planes from Jordan.  India is the only country in the world who still uses the British attack Jaguar Fighter planes. Even Britain stop using them many years ago. Someone is collecting some big money on commissions.

Prashad
Prashad posted:

They are Arabs Pakistan say that  they Kashmiris have a different colour. White skin same as white Arabs as opposed to Indian black skin, so shove off and get the hell off of the Indo Aryan and Dravidian soil. Keffer you may be an ISI nut wall. But you are dumb like a church rat on a Sunday also.

 

Prashad, stop writing rubbish ! You have never been there, you know nothing but still insist on posting total rubbish ! You are beginning to sound almost exactly like GNI's most bigoted and prejudiced jackass !! By your line of reasoning, the authorities in the USA should deliver a swift kick to you and send you to your latrine cleaning duty ! Your incessant mention of 'white skin' and 'white Arabs are clear indicative of a massive inferiority complex ... you are evidently in dire need of psychiatric help !  Take a minute while you are there to arrange an appointment for GNI's most ignorant bigoted jackass ! One of these days he will end up seeking the help/services of a Muslim doctor .... I hope they cut off both his tongue and his little balls !

K
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Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Keffer posted:
Baseman posted:
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Prashad, you do not know shit about the issues in this discussion so my humble suggestion is that you do not enter into discussions on issues that you are totally ignorant of ! I do not need to be told or schooled by you or anyone else on Kashmir because, 1) I was there with my team numerous time. If you wish to display arrogance and bigotry like several times and we witnessed their arrogance ! Despite the fact that we were wearing UN vests and identification tags, they tried to intimidate us. With my own eyes, I saw the barbarity and brutality of Indian soldiers there. They attempted to bully me and my group simply because we witnessed their behavior; blatant brutality and barbarity towards the local people. If you wish to join the thinking of folks like Baseman who is biased and bigoted, that is your choice to make ! You have never been there so you are completely ignorant of what I am referring to ! My suggestion to you is that you desist from jumping into discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant. Anyone who openly makes statements like "Because your Islamic nations and leaders call for the extermination of β€œInfidels” and "Never trust a Fullahman" is unquestionably ignorant and bigoted and in my view ought to be denied further participation in this forum !!

If such thinking and expressions coincides with your views, I recommend you air your thoughts and opinions elsewhere so that sane, rational and well-intentioned people can carry on discussions in the manner and spirit of decency !

Keffer stop the BS. Enough is enough those Kashmiris should all be expelled from India. Let them go to Pakistan where they will experience paradise. India too soft with them. Look at this ungrateful keffer. India allowed him on their soil. He ate their food and slept in their beds. Then he  takes multiple sh-ts on their head with his ISI radical hate propaganda towards weaker nations.

He is full of sh1t!  And to believe he flies aircraft!  Scary!

You shameless ignoramus, those people are indigenous to the area ! Is there no decency or any sense of propriety left in you ? Is that what you teach your children and others ? Prejudice and hate have clearly reduced your thinking to a latrine level; appropriate for the latrine cleaner Prashad  ! What I do in India and several other countries is via the United Nations ! You evidently know better than the UN so why don't you tell us what you have done to alleviate the suffering of poor people; not only in India but anywhere else. In Guyana, jackasses like you are commonly referred to as 'blo-blo'; you have lots of big talk but take no action because all you do is permeate the environment with your bigoted, prejudiced and filthy rubbish ! DUMB-ASS, where I go and what I do ultimately results in improvement in the lives of human being ! You have no concept whatsoever of how that impacts poor people because the combination of prejudice, ignorance and hate has made your tiny brain in nothing but a large lump of shyte ! You are nothing but a shameless, hate-filled, bigoted dunce so get lost, you bigoted lump of excrement !

Soooo, whose freedom was the 9/11 and the Bombay were fighting for?   Isn’t this a simple binary question?

What an unbelievably monstrous jackass you are ! Does your foul stupidity not have any limits ? What has 9/11 have to do with this discussion ? With every letter and every word that you post, you shamelessly expose your lack of education, character  and your dismal stupidity ! Your time would be much better spent grazing with your family in a pasture !

Listen fool.  YOU said one mans terrorists is another’s freedom fighter.  So tell me whose freedom were the fighting for.  It’s a general question as you seem to suggest!

FM

This is how the Pakistan Army operates according to the terrorists. If the Pakistan Army is to attack terrorists in an area then they will tip off the terrorists about the time that they will attack. They usually do this the day before. So only those terrorists who are either dumb, slow or plain very crazy are usually left in the area to fight the Pakistan Army.

Prashad
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Prashad posted:

Keffer take a look at the social studies curriculum that all Pakistani students have to learn in schools. It is a hatred of Hinduism and India. The first muslims to come to India were not invaders but Arab traders who were allowed to build a mosque in Kerala by the Hindus. Pakistan is engaged in a strategy of death by a thousand cuts towards India. Pakistani school children are brainwashed into hatred of Hinduism and India. It is if their ancestors were never hindus. The Indian government needs to give Kashmiris the option of instant termination of their Indian citizenship and leave the country.

Dingbat Prashad, you need to be aware of the following before you and your bigoted, ignoramus buddy Baseman (who truly deserves such a 'handle') open your cavernous mouths and begin spewing your usual senseless garbage.

1) HCI and all other NGOs do not have authority to introduce or implement programs in Indian and Pakistani schools without the prior approval of the respective education ministries.

2) All education programs proposed/suggested by external parties, NGOs included, are subject to thorough reviews to ensure that program contents are in keeping with local requirements nationwide.

What that means, Mr. Latrine cleaner, is that you, who are totally incapable of differentiating between your rectum and your mouth, do not have a clue of the processes in these countries. This is precisely how both India and Pakistan maintain educational contents and standards in their schools ! In other words, you do not know shit about how these countries operate so you ought to shut your yap and therefore cease posting your usual trash ! There is no shame in not knowing something; what you need to do is ask questions before opening your foul mouth and begin spewing shyte ! You, like your ignorant, hate-filled and bigoted buddy Baseman need to listen attentively, ask questions so that you can learn and not spew ignorance and bigotry. You have never set foot in India or Pakistan and you have absolutely no idea what these countries are like. My suggestion is that, instead of writing rubbish in the hope that some fool, like Baseman, will be impressed by your trash, be man enough to do your homework and ask questions ! Pakistan is not very different from India so, instead of making baseless, senseless and unsubstantiated accusations, like the shameless bigot whose decency and morality are unquestionably poor, use your ears and do your homework so that you can learn ! 

K

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