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me prefer APNU but me can still live wid PPP Granger going to give black and dougla more Bikecycle and aile money
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Django also said their is no law to over ride Mingo declaration- a wonder where he got his law knowledge- I can only think of Sophia university.
Here Djanjo, go educate yourself from qualified lawyer.
Constitution, electoral laws empower GECOM to reverse Mingo’s unlawful declarations, order national recount-Ramkarran
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Using its powers under Article 162 (1) (b) of the Constitution, former Speaker of the National Assembly, Senior Counsel Ralph Ramkarran explains that the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) could have reversed the two unlawful declarations by Region Four’s Returning Officer, Clairmont Mingo.
“…article 162(1)(b) of the Constitution provides clear and convincing authority for the Commission to have stopped the Returning Officer (“RO”) for Region 4, Clairmont Mingo, in his tracks. He attempted to ascertain the votes cast for each list, not by Statement of Polls but by spreadsheet. The Commission could have undid what the RO unlawfully did, namely, make two declarations of the votes cast for Region 4 not relying on the Statement of Poll,” the Senior Counsel said in his most recent writings.
Article 162(1)(b) of the Constitution says that GECOM, “shall issue such instructions and take such action as appear to it necessary and expedient to ensure impartiality, fairness and compliance with the provisions of this Constitution or of any Act of Parliament on the part of persons exercising powers or performing duties connected with or relating to the matters aforesaid.”
Against this backdrop, Senior Counsel Ramkarran explained that once Mingo began to use a spreadsheet in ascertaining the votes for each list of candidates in Region 4, in violation of section 84 of the Representation of the People Act, which requires him to use the Statements of Poll, GECOM should have stopped him.
But Ramkarran stressed that GECOM failed to intervene even after he twice made clearly unlawful declaration of the results. Senior Counsel Ramkarran also sought to remind that Mingo’s first unlawful declaration was challenged before the Chief Justice.
What is unfortunate, he noted, is that the role of GECOM’s and its powers under Article 162(1)(b) of the Constitution did not engage the attention of the Chief Justice.
Had the case been framed, or the opportunity taken, to engage the Chief Justice on article 162(1)(b) and, pursuant thereto, had she given clear views on the powers of the Commission, clarity may have prevailed and the Commission guided, the former House Speaker wrote.
“But I was not in the case, do not fully understand the issues and difficulties, and am now writing with 20/20 vision.”
On the question of whether GECOM has the power to order a recount, Senior Counsel Ramkarran insists that it certainly does.
He said that while the issue is now one for the court to determine, it certainly does not appear that the President and Opposition Leader were usurping the function of GECOM.
“They were in fact deferring to its authority and to those of the Constitution, laws and court decisions,” he adds.
With regards to the aforesaid, Senior Counsel Ramkarran who is also the Presidential Candidate of A New and United Guyana (ANUG), is referring to the Aide Memoire signed by the President and Opposition Leader for a high-level Caribbean Community (CARICOM) team to supervise a national recount of votes.
According to him, the Aide Memoire states: “That the High Level Team would operate within the framework of the Constitution, the applicable law, the role of GECOM and the rulings of the Court; That Terms of Reference for the role of the High Level Team must be prepared by the Commission.”
In light of all the foregoing, Ramkarran said,..” with or without the Aide Memoire, [GECOM] has separate and independent powers under the Constitution and under sections 84 and 88 of the Representation of the People Act to order a recount. The applications by several contesting parties for recounts under section 84 were wrongly rejected by the RO. Those can be corrected even at this stage by the Commission.”
kp posted:This is like dealing with Retards.
Gunraj AS a GECOM Commissioner did not receive ALL the SOPs, and maybe the same can be said of the other commissioners.
But on the other hand ,observers of each political party would have copies and that would then be forwarded to each political party head office to share.
The law states that GECOM is an independent body to over see the electoral process, so Mr.Sase Gunraj was speaking as part of the INDEPENDENT BODY of GECOM. So what is the BIG DEAL, is it Comprehension!
That can be true ,if the political parties have observers at all polling stations thru out the country.
Every one flavoring the pot to suit their taste, that's how the talking heads in Guyana rolls.
At least the major parties, plus the Joiner parties can send one observer. But the Region in question #4 be it a central location would have all the parties represented . Even so at the end of voting the SOPs were posted outside of all polling stations and the public can take photos to keep for record.
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So Dem observers wrong to seh dat region 4 was not transparent and de results not accurate ? Who to believe now ? How bout we count all de boxes ? Who win win Me want granger but most people on de ground seh dat PPP win
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Tom posted:So Dem observers wrong to seh dat region 4 was not transparent and de results not accurate ? Who to believe now ? How bout we count all de boxes ? Who win win Me want granger but most people on de ground seh dat PPP win
I agree with this position. No need to guess who flavor what pot, just recount the votes.
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Django posted:Every one flavoring the pot to suit their taste, that's how the talking heads in Guyana rolls.
So the live streaming on social media is lying. The US, Canadian, British and European Ambassadors who witnessed the rigging first hand and choose to walk out at GECOM office is also lying.
# Ayo Have No Shame.
What's the LAW says for recount ,any one knows ?
NO,No, only you.
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Dave posted:So the live streaming on social media is lying. The US, Canadian, British and European Ambassadors who witnessed the rigging first hand and choose to walk out at GECOM office is also lying.
# Ayo Have No Shame.
Shame? What’s that?
The law says GECOM decides. Why ayuh hold elections, GECOM decides anyway.
kp posted:NO,No, only you.
I don't know the real deal , tell nah man ,so we can have an understanding.
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An initial count wasn’t done by Mingo. Why aren’t you chastising Mingo for failing to do his job? I have subordinates at work but my superior and peers don’t go to them. They come to me. Not only did Mingo not done his job but so did Lowenfield and Singh. Why aren’t you criticizing them. The Coalition and all their supporters are hiding behind semantics. It is now nearly 15 months and decency is still evading these people.
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de Congo Jango and mingo mango head hard. count de blasted votes and who win only a loser scared of de count
Ayuh think Administration of Elections and the governing Laws are like running a two bit store ?
Tom posted:de Congo Jango and mingo mango head hard. count de blasted votes and who win only a loser scared of de count
That's a very Sober Statement, very true.
Django posted:Ayuh think Administration of Elections and the governing Laws are like running a two bit store ?
How come you run this Rum Shop.
kp posted:Django posted:Ayuh think Administration of Elections and the governing Laws are like running a two bit store ?
How come you run this Rum Shop.
This is easy bhai ,you just suspend and ban for bad behavior. 
Any way that's not my job.
Seriously ,GECOM need to straighten out the fiasco .
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Whatever PPP/C is alleged to have done with Region 4 numbers, only a transparent recount of the ballot boxes will settle the matter. Get on with the program. That's the universal call.
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Gilbakka posted:Whatever PPP/C is alleged to have done with Region 4 numbers, only a transparent recount of the ballot boxes will settle the matter. Get on with the program. That's the universal call.
That is terrifying for the Coalition folks. Mits even went looking for stuff on Sattaur from way before the Coalition conned their way into government.
ksazma posted:Gilbakka posted:Whatever PPP/C is alleged to have done with Region 4 numbers, only a transparent recount of the ballot boxes will settle the matter. Get on with the program. That's the universal call.
That is terrifying for the Coalition folks. Mits even went looking for stuff on Sattaur from way before the Coalition conned their way into government.
That's true. Zed want's to know the definition for "dictator".
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Django posted:Ayuh think Administration of Elections and the governing Laws are like running a two bit store ?
And you think simple counting up the votes (1+1=2) is rocket science! But then again, 33 is not the majority of 65! So here goes!
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