yuji22 posted:

kp posted:

FC posted:

Once again Yugi has proven he is a moron with his display of a 2yr old mentality in the way he argues. Lord have mercy, stupidity knows no bounds.

The man speaks the fact and you call him a moron is that the best you can do, name calling.

FC is one of those pi** pot/slop can posters, of no value.

Hey porter of no value, I notice you still stupidly flapping that patacake of yours, trying to wreck a thread with positive news coming out of Guyana. You just cannot handle hearing those poor people are getting ahead.

yuji22 posted:

PNC Fake News cannot fool Indos twice.

 

It will not take much for the PNC to fool Indians,  because the PPP with Jagdeo and his gang been fooling Indians for their votes for decades.

Why do jagdeo live in a mansion, while the PPP voters still struggle to feed their family ?    Plus, they are dumb enough to vote for him again.

Tola posted:

yuji22 posted:

PNC Fake News cannot fool Indos twice.

 

It will not take much for the PNC to fool Indians,  because the PPP with Jagdeo and his gang been fooling Indians for their votes for decades.

Why do jagdeo live in a mansion, while the PPP voters still struggle to feed their family ?    Plus, they are dumb enough to vote for him again.

Tola speakes like one of those illiterate people and I am tired of reading this shyte. Moses lives in a renovated $ 200 million house and you say nothing about it. His fleet of SUV's is worth over $ 100 million. Jagdeo still carries a mortgage on his house.

Moses, Ramjattan and the entire PNC gang of liars refuse to declare their income and assets. Why not questions them ? Why not question them about their pay increases ?

You are too obsessed with Jagdeo. All of your posts are about Jagdeo this and Jagdeo that.

How about shyte head Granger ? How about conmen Moses and Ramjattan ?

Tola, do you expect Indos to still live in Balahoos and trash top homes ? You appear to be anti Indo. 

Get real man. I am proud when I see Indos progress. I am once again beginning to question your honesty about your activities in Guyana. Bother Kaz made some interesting observations about you.

Mitwah posted:

There has been a reduction in the suicide rate

The Caribbean Voice wonders why Ms Annie Baliram (A significant decline in the suicide rate is not possible SN, August 21) is casting doubt on the 2015 suicide rate for Guyana, which shows a reduction from 44.2 to 30.6 per 100,000, and not all or any other previous rates. After all it is the same global organization, WHO, that has been putting out these rates annually using the same yardsticks, processes and methodologies et al. According to Ms Baliram, a significant reduction in suicide can come about only by addressing the abnormally high levels of stress arising out of the social, economic and political conditions. Stress mechanistically drives suicide directly or indirectly.

This limited characterization by Ms Baliram runs counter to the complete picture which, in the context of Guyana, indicates the following: With a proneness to copycat, a practice referred to as the Werther Effect, suicide ideation is the result of depression and/or anxiety triggered by helplessness, hopelessness, powerlessness and loneliness. These triggers are catalyzed by low levels of self-acceptance and/or feelings of inadequacy/low self esteem, as a result of abusive and dysfunctional relationships; lack of empathetic communication, teenage affairs and pregnancy; rape and incest; an inability to deal with problems (lack of coping skills) and/or unbearable pain  physical or emotional  poverty, unemployment and substance abuse (and to a significantly lesser degree psychosis such as bipolar disorder and some other mental illnesses).

Ms Baliram also stated, a robust reduction in the suicide rate can come about only by eliminating the primary triggers of suicide, together with making available meaningful therapeutic interventions (counselling, community support, reducing access to pesticides, etc). Actually, if the triggers are eliminated then so is suicide, an ideal to which all prevention organizations and activists aspire.

Meanwhile, if Ms Baliram had taken the time to get the facts, rather than merely speculate, she would have learnt about the work done by NGOs like The Caribbean Voice (in August alone, three mental health outreaches and three workshops in three different regions, costing over $150,000; two feature articles and six letters in the local media based on researched data; suicide prevention messages daily on radio and TV in all three counties; extensive  tens of thousands of views and thousands of interactions  social media information dissemination and advocacy; twelve counselling cases handled; and a number of meetings to explore collaboration and plan upcoming activism), Monique's Helping Hands, Guyana Foundation, the Mibicuri Community Developers, the Counselling Centre at Corriverton established by ex-magistrate, Krisndat Persaud, the St Francis Community Developers, Prevention of Teen Suicide (POTS), Help & Shelter, Red Thread, Crossroads Counselling & Mental Health Services and a host of others who give their time, efforts, skills and resources, many on a voluntary and all on an ongoing basis, to address all the triggers, their causes and results, suicide ideation and suicide.

The work of these suicide prevention entities is holistic, comprising counselling and follow-up, training of first responders and gatekeepers (to foster community support through proactive interventions and follow-up), information dissemination and awareness building (including safe use and storage of pesticides), advocacy and lobbying (that led to the establishment of the suicide helpline and that is focusing on a range of other measures, including counsellors in schools), a lot of it through stakeholders collaboration. In effect, interventions are neither a band aid approach nor are they marginal and certainly do not result in merely transient gains.

As well, tens of thousands of counselling sessions have been done over the years with no suicide relapse recorded, although there has been some resistance to counselling because of the stigma and misconceptions attached. Furthermore, some NGOs and various government ministries and agencies also focus directly on skills building such as self-esteem, coping strategies, job training, relationship needs, or indirectly by collaboration with entities that offer such skills building â various ministries, the police force, the First Lady's office, businesses and other stakeholders.

While we agree that a lot more needs to be done, we are confident that, in total, the impact of the work of these NGOs and activists, combined with the incremental work done by government, especially the Ministry of Indigenous Affairs in the hinterland areas and the Ministry of Health through the mhGAP training and other measures, would certainly justify the suicide rate reduction from 44.2 to 30.6 per 100,000. Besides, both a content analysis of the media and empirical and anecdotal data garnered by The Caribbean Voice and other stakeholders do actually support this level of reduction.

The Caribbean Voice does agree with Ms Baliram that genetics has a role in suicide. However, that is still to be clearly defined. Besides, there are differences regarding this in the scientific world with some dubbing it a controversial issue, stating that because of the complexity of suicide, more studies, data and replication are needed.

In effect, the tests to identify potential risks in order to develop treatment modalities are still a long way off, and thus cannot impact suicide prevention anywhere in the world any time soon.

Meanwhile we are happy that Ms Baliram has taken such a keen interest in suicide prevention in Guyana. Now The Caribbean Voice invites her to walk with us on this journey to save lives and empower people so her passion can take concrete manifestation and so that she would become aware of the reality on the ground and not ignore, disregard and/or negate the tremendous work of suicide prevention organizations and activists, which will not only continue but expand in time.

Yours faithfully,

Annan Boodram

Source:

Jai Shree Krishna.

This is positive news about Guyana and this is what this tread is about. The 2015 suicide rate for Guyana, which shows a reduction from 44.2 to 30.6 per 100,000, is significant. There is still more work to be done.

These organizations need our help. Monique's Helping Hands, Guyana Foundation, the Mibicuri Community Developers, the Counselling Centre at Corriverton established by ex-magistrate, Krisndat Persaud, the St Francis Community Developers, Prevention of Teen Suicide (POTS), Help & Shelter, Red Thread, Crossroads Counselling & Mental Health Services and a host of others who give their time, efforts, skills and resources, many on a voluntary and all on an ongoing basis, to address all the triggers, their causes and results, suicide ideation and suicide.

Mitwah continues with more of this:

Mitwah, you cannot fool Indos twice.

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

RiffRaff posted:

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

It's amazing some of you say Guyanese suicide is a coolie thing. Yet India is ranked 24.

Yugi needs help. He shows suicidal signs. Krishndat is your relative.  Send some help for his Centre at Corriverton. 

Jai Shree Krishna.

RiffRaff posted:

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

It's interesting to note this article did not give any credits to the PNC nor the PPP.

Mitwah posted:

Yugi needs help. He shows suicidal signs. Krishndat is your relative.  Send some help for his Centre at Corriverton. 

Jai Shree Krishna.

This Krishndat is a distant relative by marriage through my first cousin side. Never met him, saw him once at Springlands. He also bought my brother's mother in law's house nearby too. Not sure what he is going to do with it. It's by the seawall too.

skeldon_man posted:

Mitwah posted:

Yugi needs help. He shows suicidal signs. Krishndat is your relative.  Send some help for his Centre at Corriverton. 

Jai Shree Krishna.

This Krishndat is a distant relative by marriage through my first cousin side. Never met him, saw him once at Springlands. He also bought my brother's mother in law's house nearby too. Not sure what he is going to do with it. It's by the seawall too.

Met him when I went back for a funeral several years ago. He is a down to earth type of person; Very humble and charitable person. 

cain posted:

yuji22 posted:

kp posted:

FC posted:

Once again Yugi has proven he is a moron with his display of a 2yr old mentality in the way he argues. Lord have mercy, stupidity knows no bounds.

The man speaks the fact and you call him a moron is that the best you can do, name calling.

FC is one of those pi** pot/slop can posters, of no value.

Hey porter of no value, I notice you still stupidly flapping that patacake of yours, trying to wreck a thread with positive news coming out of Guyana. You just cannot handle hearing those poor people are getting ahead.

We have to help the brudda before he commits suicide. 

RiffRaff posted:

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

We do not support lies and Fake news. 

Mitwah posted:

Yugi needs help. He shows suicidal signs. Krishndat is your relative.  Send some help for his Centre at Corriverton. 

Jai Shree Krishna.

Who the Hell is Krishndat ? 

Mitwah posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Mitwah posted:

Yugi needs help. He shows suicidal signs. Krishndat is your relative.  Send some help for his Centre at Corriverton. 

Jai Shree Krishna.

This Krishndat is a distant relative by marriage through my first cousin side. Never met him, saw him once at Springlands. He also bought my brother's mother in law's house nearby too. Not sure what he is going to do with it. It's by the seawall too.

Met him when I went back for a funeral several years ago. He is a down to earth type of person; Very humble and charitable person. 

He was at my cousin's husband cremation at #66 village but I did not recognize him then.

RiffRaff posted:

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

It is not only a dropped suicide rate they are upset about. Its a natural instinct  to be negative about something they don't support, with THEIR government.

Even though this is not a government effort, they will have high praises for suicide reduction, if their government is in office.

Racism is one problem in Guyana and a political divide is another . A progressive flow do  not take place from one government to  the next and all Guyanese lose.

Trump is a good example and the government after his, might spend their entire term undoing what he destroy.   

Tola posted:

RiffRaff posted:

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

It is not only a dropped suicide rate they are upset about. Its a natural instinct  to be negative about something they don't support, with THEIR government.

Even though this is not a government effort, they will have high praises for suicide reduction, if their government is in office.

Racism is one problem in Guyana and a political divide is another . A progressive flow do  not take place from one government to  the next and all Guyanese lose.

Trump is a good example and the government after his, might spend their entire term undoing what he destroy.   

Well put......it's all about under whose watch not the results.

skeldon_man posted:

Mitwah posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Mitwah posted:

Yugi needs help. He shows suicidal signs. Krishndat is your relative.  Send some help for his Centre at Corriverton. 

Jai Shree Krishna.

This Krishndat is a distant relative by marriage through my first cousin side. Never met him, saw him once at Springlands. He also bought my brother's mother in law's house nearby too. Not sure what he is going to do with it. It's by the seawall too.

Met him when I went back for a funeral several years ago. He is a down to earth type of person; Very humble and charitable person. 

He was at my cousin's husband cremation at #66 village but I did not recognize him then.

I think he will convert that house into a shelter for abused wives.

Skelly, while we were in GY,  we met a Muslim Christian pastor from Skeldon with a large church. I believe his name was Mohmmed or Musalin. He showed us a building under construction and said it would be a women's shelter.

Do you know anything about him ?

Tola posted:

RiffRaff posted:

Why are some of you upset that the suicide rate dropped?

It is not only a dropped suicide rate they are upset about. Its a natural instinct  to be negative about something they don't support, with THEIR government.

Even though this is not a government effort, they will have high praises for suicide reduction, if their government is in office.

Racism is one problem in Guyana and a political divide is another . A progressive flow do  not take place from one government to  the next and all Guyanese lose.

Trump is a good example and the government after his, might spend their entire term undoing what he destroy.   

It's interesting to note that the article made no mention of the PPP nor the PNC regimes.

Tola posted:

Skelly, while we were in GY,  we met a Muslim Christian pastor from Skeldon with a large church. I believe his name was Mohmmed or Musalin. He showed us a building under construction and said it would be a women's shelter.

Do you know anything about him ?

Yeah, I know the dude. He belongs to Line Path, close to us. He was a kid when I left Guyana. His father owned a hire car. Brother Alim needs to go and find a real job. Don't know too much about him. I did not see many folks attending his church. There was another Christian church near to us. They use to go and bus folks(none from Line Path) to attend service. I think the church in now closed.