You can drink, smoke an even eat poke, as long as you say dat prayer at 12 on Friday everything irie, no joke...dats what Iman heard.

seh 2 prayer over de poke even and u good to go......i think.,....

Is this a Muslim? He said he is and he is exactly what ISIS is.

I  think Chaudr has a point; you cannot argue with a muslim! They only hear themselves.

Storm, You can post how many videos of "Muslims" 'sounding like ISIS and proving to you their Muslim credentials, but it still goes to show you choose to define a Muslim as one who behaves like ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban. That is close to being a bias against a people whom you do not know.

One video or several videos of lunatics do a truth be made. You are suckered into believing something so intellectually shallow. You accuse CaribJ of defining the Guyanese Indians and you do likewise with global Muslims. You are possessed of shallow intellect, a sham sense of civic strength who gives in to mob mentality. You and several here on this Board (strange bedfellows like you and Nehru) are like the Hutus who call the Tutsis cockroaches, and like Hitler who wanted the Jews exterminated.

Shut the hell up!

ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban are all Muslims and no amount of denying this will make it otherwise. It's people like you who provide cover for these terrorists that is the making the problem even worse. When you come out with nonsense like this, people start to distrust the ones who are supposed to be moderates because you're no better than the frikken terrorists who are pulling the triggers.

While I do not want to engage in this debate, the woman in the video is a very brave woman and the video exposes the treatment of those who disagree with certain beliefs. 

Islam must allow freedom of expression to flourish otherwise the problems that we are experiencing today will only get worse.

The cleric in the video is a nutcase. 

When the Roman Catholic priests sexually molest young boys, are they still Christians?

They are still Christians and have you seen how many christians have come out and condemned them royally? do you see how many of them have gone to jail and forced the Church to pay out millions in compensatory damages?

Do a search on the internet you will find a litany of Catholic christian groups condemning the church it is largely the main reason why this pope was elected and has begun massive reforms within the church.

You wanna shut me up. You know where to find me. My photos, address, work place, etc are all over the Internet. That's the real me on my handle. Bring it on you faceless, anonymous, pr1ck.....you little coward. Man up, say who you are and tell me to shut the hell up in person. Otherwise stay the hell away from me. I can take you commenting on my posts, but don't ever tell me to shut the hell up, especially if you're a midget hiding behind the safety of a keyboard.

About the two videos posted here there are probably multitude of video explaining Islam and mainstream Muslims. Way outnumbering these two and whatever others they have out there including that lunatic imam in London.

A Christian is a Christ-like person. Are you then saying that Christ was someone who sexually molested young boys?

There needs to be more mainstream muslim folks condemning these lunatics, The more of them go to jail the faster the better. Their preaching of hate is completely unacceptable. They are criminals hiding behind religion.

I was trying to be polite to you by telling you to shut the hell up, you fat ugly piece of shit.

My bad. Shut the fvck up is more appropriate for scum sucking terrorist sympathizers like you when you try to spew your bilge. 

Governments, like Egypt and Iran are all up in arms against these murderous cowards using the name of Islam. Even Hezbollah chastises them. Why do you think that Muslims support these non-Muslims? Even when thousands of lives were killed by a gross mistake (the final civilian tally is in 6 figures) why did no one ask why Muslims are not raising their voices against President Bush. The Christian establishment is diverse and you can see their responses to shenanigans by other priests.

The cowards who use the name of Islam are not part of the Muslim establishment and are seen as criminals and terrorists. Governments speak out and Muslims work with governments.

I think it's spurious and not productive to talk about the Muslims being quiet and giving tacit support to these non-Muslims killing in the name of Islam. And that's why they will continue to do these things as people focus erroneously on why Muslims don't speak out.

Those mainstream Muslims who would condemn these crazies don't get television time bai. Television time is very expensive and people are only given a few minutes to explain things. The crazies seem to fill that small window more effectively than the mainstream ones. CNN and other television networks don't have time for mainstream imams. That's a fact.

It is true they do not get nearly as much Television time but they don't need only television time to get their message out. 

They need to cleanse that rhetoric from within the mosques themselves and leverage social media which is much more powerful than TV in that sense.

Look there is no one who can convince me that there are not muslims out there that preach hate, I remember after 911 in the Guyanese community there were a lot of muslims who embraced Bin Laden and said a lot of vile things during that period. 

I remember sitting down and listening to this woman who called herself an imam teaching these young children nothing but hate and nonsense here entire sermon to these kids was about how Christians were infidels and vile. I just say there, listened and shook my head.

The hate preaching has to stop in the communities not on TV, the main stream speakers condemning these folks has to begin at a grass roots level not on TV.

The simple point is unlike Muslim community who denied these terrorist as none Muslim, the Chirstian community own up and deal with their bad eggs through jail time and compensation to victims...

Here is the reality. There are many mainstream mosques and many crazy mosques. The mainstream mosques are preaching mainstream Islam in their mosques and the crazy mosques are preaching crazy stuff. No let down in the mosques. If one wants the mainstream imams to explain Islam they should give them equal television time. No other way to get the message out. Mainstream Westerners aren't watching Al-Jazeera, America.

Bingo - Sachin's point is exactly my sentiments on this issue. Your comments above regarding christ-like etc. is again hate peddling nonsense.

This does not answer my question which should be either 'yes' or 'no'. Try to stay focus bai.

So what are you saying? You implying that Christ molested young boys? It is Mohamed who was a child molester. There is no doubt of that.

I am not going to answer filth. You can answer that and dwell in that if you want. Is the imam that buggered those lil boys at CIOG still a muslim? he yells praise to allah every day at CIOG so he must be muslim right?

Did the DPP and her husband who are muslims do everything in their power to shield the buggering imam and protect him? yes they did. 

You don't want to go down this route with me, my suggestion is to keep the conversation focused rather than stepping into filth.

Not at all. Perhaps you see it as hate peddling because you recognize where I was going. Truth seekers don't put up filters to avoid eventualities. Sachin avoided the question complete and sought to explain something not in the question. The question was never about response. 

I sure as hell wouldn't avoid your question and I am not avoiding it. I see no reason to get into a discussion that is irrelevant and steeped in filth rather than have a decent respectful conversation. You want to discuss muslims buggering we can do that. But that detracts from the point Sachin made and the point I was making, both respectful and dignified i might add.

See how easy it was to get you on a tangent bai. A simple question to facilitate a discussion irated you. Yet you want Muslims to have an open discussion by the rules you set. Live isn't as perfect as you would like it to be banna.

This morning on "Meet the Press": Muslims in a suburb of Detroit(30% muslims) did criticize the evils of extremism in Islam. The guy explained that when extremists kill in the name of Islam it's the innocent muslims who feel the retribution. 

You think that conversation irritated me? you sir are mistaken. I am just demonstrating to you how pointless it is to discuss filth.

You are again trying very hard to justify your hate peddling and the criminal acts of some muslims by tying it to crimes committed by Christians.

But that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, it is a reach and it is clear to everyone what you are attempting to do. It is pointless.

You are barking up the wrong tree with your religious rhetoric...for a atheist like me, I  really do not care if Christ, Mohamid or Krishna molest boys. If you a yes would make you feel like a winner then "yes".....

HM_Redux. I regard you as intelligent. How did you manage to miss the point I was seeking to make? Or did you notice it and didn't want to go there. For clarification, I never intended to discuss the sexual molestation of priests which is evident by my very next post shifting the discussion from the priests to Christians and Jesus. How did you manage to miss that? You have to be brighter than that bai.

Bai, if you think I was implying that Christ molested young boys, this discussion is way over your head.

You were not making a logical point. I have said that time and time again.

Regardless of how intelligent someone is, if you are not making any sense how do you expect me to make sense of it?

Garbage in garbage out........

You already missed between the two uprights. You should quit while you are just slightly behind. Thanks.

You can't tell now that you missed the opportunity to indulge me when you decided to go off on a tangent. I do respect that you were perfectly within your right if you decided back then that I was not making any sense which makes any further discussion on this topic between you and I futile. Have a good day bai.

I don't need any of this to feel good bai.Every morning for the past 27 years, I wake up by looking at the same person next to me who greet me with a smile. Then I get to spend the day with her and the two treasures she gave me. Nothing else is necessary for me to feel like a winner.

Hang in there Ksazma take a break and come back soon. Your discussions are educating when you don't involve other religions for comparison in some of these instances.

I am not defining Muslims. I cannot since they define themselves and since there are no global Muslim counsels or conclaves to select authoritative heads. They define themselves like the many nondenominational Christian churches as accountable to only one source, their holy writ. For christians it is the bible and for muslims it is th the Koran.

I take them for who they are. As Christians are saddled with the atrocities of the inquisition, the genocide of native cultures etc even though there were voices by the thousands saying it is non Christian, so is what is happening now despite voices of dissent. Christians started

Not until those voices are resonant in some enlightenment creed, some authoritative declaration as the Magna Carta, or the French revolution, the American bill of rights, the Lutheran 95 indictments where entire societies stand up and define the faith by saying what it is not; for me a Muslim is what he declared himself to be.

How can I say that those 16 million Sunnis who are abetting ISIS are not Muslims when they lived in the culture that say they are Muslims? Note they are for all other purpose except for denial that they represent Muslims when they commit acts of violence, Muslims!

Question your easy reach for denials rather than my intellect. I am not doing anything wrong rather than labeling a person what they call themselves. That has always been the rule. A people are who they say they are.

Bai, we don't live in a bubble. There is a global manifestation out there. For clarification, my next post in that string was coming right back to Muslims and Islam. Too bad it got derailed. No problem though.