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At least three important members of the Alliance For Change (AFC) have defected to A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) after sharp irreconcilable differences about campaign strategies and party management.


The are Economist, Tarron Khemraj, businessman Rab Mukraj and Political Science Professor, Asquith Rose. Former soldier Malcolm Harripaul, who had long switched allegiance to the APNU, has been formally added to the list of defectors. This latest batch adds to the irrevocable resignation of Shamir Ally, a financier and lobbyist for the AFC, because of concerns over leadership approaches.


Rose said as many as 11 persons have decided to walk away from the AFC which holds a key seven-seat balance of power in the 65-seat National Assembly. He said several of them would go to APNU and the remainder back to the governing Peoples Progressive Party (PPP).


AFC Leader, Khemraj Ramjattan expressed disappointment at the move, saying that while he was unaware of discontent in his party’s New York Chapter he was not informed about the decision by those members to walk away.


“It is very unfortunate that there has been a fall-out of those members from that overseas group,” he said. “This is a democratic liberal party. We respect their decision and if they want to go and join APNU, that’s very unfortunate for us.”


Ramjattan said the AFC would have to “dust ourselves off”, continue its political work and in the near future reveal the names of new persons who would be joining its fold.  While Ramjattan said AFC’s members total little more than 10,000 persons, he conceded that the departure of the quartet, especially Khemraj, would affect the party’s strength.  “That comes as a big surprise to me, knowing Tarron but in any event this is the way of the world,” said Ramjattan.


News of the breakaway came in an APNU news release stating that the four New York-based members had recently held talks with that parliamentary party’s Chairman, David Granger and frontbencher, Joseph Harmon.  “The two sides examined the current economic, political and social situation in Guyana and concluded that a broad ‘pro-Guyana’ approach was needed to stimulate movement towards the attainment of their common objectives.

 

They agreed to work together to build structures to improve governance, promote national unity and advance human development,” according to APNU.


The AFC Leader planned to tell the defectors that disagreements with the leadership was no reason to leave a political party but instead, they should stay in. “You stay and you make your points and you try as much as democratically to influence political decisions for your party here in Guyana,” he said.


Ramjattan and Professor Rose, in separate interviews, do not believe that the endorsement and eventual membership of the APNU would affect relations between the two parliamentary political parties. “Anything less than that is committing suicide on each one of them,” said Rose, adding that Granger has been told of the need to maintain good relations with the AFC to get certain bills passed in the combined opposition-controlled House.

 

Professor Rose said his group that recently met with Granger and Harmon proposed that APNU embark on a brand new campaign that focussed on national unity and human development. “We see that as a winning strategy for them to win the next elections and they are moving in that direction so we are going to support them,” he told Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com).Rose said the strategy would be crafted as the springboard for the holding of a number of conferences across Guyana next year.


Instead of refusing to take that approach since the 2011 general election to expand its base and raise funds, he said AFC has been flip-flopping on a number of those issues. “The bottom-line of it all is that I cannot continue to put out fires in a party that’s just fighting within itself especially a third and small party like the AFC,” he said. He said AFC’s decision to renege on its stated opposition to the Amaila Falls Hydropower project pushed him and others to leave that party.

 

“They just made a flip-flop without telling us anything, putting us in an embarrassing situation and with all the fallout what was going on within the AFC and the conflict of interest, the party cannot uplift itself and move forward with that kind of thing,” he said.
Rose accused the existing crop of AFC leaders of not widening its core leadership beyond three persons and refusing to put in place a fund-raising mechanism while listening to one major financier. “No one there wants to listen. It’s a clique running the party and I am not going to get involved in a party that does something like that anymore,” he said.


Rose is confident that APNU was making in roads with latest opinion polls showing it attracting 42 percent while AFC has slipped from 27 percent to 14 percent since it voted for the Amaila Falls project. “For a small party ot woild be very hard to rebuild your base,’ he said.


With more of the PPP's traditional East Indian supporters migrating to other countries, Rose believes that the time his ripe for APNU to break in to the 76,000 Black non-voting supporters mostly in South Georgetown. His estimates that overall, there are 140,000 non-voters.

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The AFC Leader planned to tell the defectors that disagreements with the leadership was no reason to leave a political party but instead, they should stay in. “You stay and you make your points and you try as much as democratically to influence political decisions for your party here in Guyana,” he said.

 

TELL DAT TO THE UNGRATEFUL MOSES NAGAMOOOOOOOOOTOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The writing is on the wall, the AFC is facing the end of their days.....

 


The high level defections represent a severe, almost catastrophic blow to the AFC.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev:

IS TK A TRAITOR OR A MAN OF PRINCIPLES ?

PPP/C => ROAR => AFC => PNC/APNU

 

DG:

 

Are you saying Tarron Khemraj is a KISS OF DEATH---any party he hooks up with is DOOMED ?hahahahaha

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
The AFC Leader planned to tell the defectors that disagreements with the leadership was no reason to leave a political party but instead, they should stay in. “You stay and you make your points and you try as much as democratically to influence political decisions for your party here in Guyana,” he said.

The reason why persons stay with a political organization while indeed having differing views.

FM

"Rose said as many as 11 persons have decided to walk away from the AFC which holds a key seven-seat balance of power in the 65-seat National Assembly. He said several of them would go to APNU and the remainder back to the governing Peoples Progressive Party (PPP)."

 

 

QUESTION:

 

Who will be going to the PPP ?

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev:

IS TK A TRAITOR OR A MAN OF PRINCIPLES ?

PPP/C => ROAR => AFC => PNC/APNU

As opposed to you PPP => PNC => PPP, depending on who's in power so you could slurp some soup.

Mars
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev:

IS TK A TRAITOR OR A MAN OF PRINCIPLES ?

PPP/C => ROAR => AFC => PNC/APNU

DG:

 

Are you saying Tarron Khemraj is a KISS OF DEATH---any party he hooks up with is DOOMED ?    hahahahaha

 

Rev

Rev .. Tarron's activities speak for itself.

FM

Well it means the APNU is a stronger party. Why are your guys sweating? The APNU can win the next election. It is good to see East Indians joining the APNU. More should follow. 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vincent Teekah, Chandisingh, Balram singh rai...........Khemraj Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo all have common characteristics.

How about the former PNC thugs Lumumba, Kwame, Taps son and House of Israel founder Joe Hamilton? All now prominent PPP members. 

Mars
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vincent Teekah, Chandisingh, Balram singh rai...........Khemraj Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo all have common characteristics.


* Traitors

 

* Deserters

 

* Turncoats

 

* Betrayers

 

* Hypocrites

 

* Judases

 

* LOSERS

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vincent Teekah, Chandisingh, Balram singh rai...........Khemraj Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo all have common characteristics.


* Traitors

 

* Deserters

 

* Turncoats

 

* Betrayers

 

* Hypocrites

 

* Judases

 

* LOSERS

 

 

Which category do these former PNC thugs, Lumumba, Kwame, Taps son and House of Israel founder Joe Hamilton fall into? All now prominent PPP members. 

Mars
Originally Posted by JB:

Well it means the APNU is a stronger party. Why are your guys sweating? The APNU can win the next election. It is good to see East Indians joining the APNU. More should follow. 


Were you offered a Minister job in apnu TK ?hahahaha

 

By the way, congrats on bolting from the AFC.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by God:
=========

Which category do these former PNC thugs, Lumumba, Kwame, Taps son and House of Israel founder Joe Hamilton fall into? All now prominent PPP members. 

 

Those scoundrels are no angels---they are soup drinkers---they will bolt the PPP the day APNU wins in Guyana.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by JB:

Well it means the APNU is a stronger party. Why are your guys sweating? The APNU can win the next election. It is good to see East Indians joining the APNU. More should follow. 


Were you offered a Minister job in apnu TK ?hahahaha

 

By the way, congrats on bolting from the AFC.

 

Rev

 

Jeeze. Why are you so stupid? 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vincent Teekah, Chandisingh, Balram singh rai...........Khemraj Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo all have common characteristics.


* Traitors

 

* Deserters

 

* Turncoats

 

* Betrayers

 

* Hypocrites

 

* Judases

 

* LOSERS

 

 

 

Those words better describe Ramotar/Jagdeo/Brassington/Ashni/Irfan/Luncheon/Robert/Rohee/your House of Israel buddies 

FM

The AFC goons are at full throttle trying to do damage control and derail this thread, but the damage has already been done.... the AFC will soon be a figment of the Guyanese populace imagination...

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The AFC will soon join the list of deceased parties, U.R.P, ROAR,THE JUSTICE PARTY,GRP.............THE  A.F.C 

Keep the Justice Party out of this. This Party, although it lost the elections in 1964, never gave up on its principles.The voters decided not to vote for the JP and it's leader Balram Singh Rai respected the decision of the voters BUT he  never sold his soul to anyone. He took his defeat with class and held his head high. Guyana would have been better off today had the Justice Party won that election. But Cheddi Jagan called Rai a racist stating that he only want to look after Indian rights. Note: The same man that he called a racist saved Jagans' life when the PNC people were going to kill him at his residence. The rest of the PPP had left town and went into hiding. 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by God:
=========

Which category do these former PNC thugs, Lumumba, Kwame, Taps son and House of Israel founder Joe Hamilton fall into? All now prominent PPP members. 

 

Those scoundrels are no angels---they are soup drinkers---they will bolt the PPP the day APNU wins in Guyana.

 

Rev

The PPP should be ashamed to have these men with Indian blood on their hands in the party. These murderers should have been charged, tried and given the death penalty (if found guilty) after the 1992 Jagan elections. he more I think about this, I believe the "masses are a pack of asses".

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

History speaks a different story of Balram Singh rai....let your conscience be your guide " Dondadda"

You mean the PPP history. I speak that which I know and what I witnessed as a teenager. I don't go around making up stories and I refused to be brainwashed. Go read the West on Trial.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vincent Teekah, Chandisingh, Balram singh rai...........Khemraj Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo all have common characteristics.


* Traitors

 

* Deserters

 

* Turncoats

 

* Betrayers

 

* Hypocrites

 

* Judases

 

* LOSERS

 

 

Rev, I know the others switched parties. Please tell me which Party Balram Singh Rai went to? Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
 

Rev, I know the others switched parties. Please tell me which Party Balram Singh Rai went to? Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?


Don:

 

Rai ought not be categorized with Teekah, Chandi, Moses and Ramjattan.

 

Mistake on my part---I should have omitted him from the list of traitors and turncoats.

 

My dad actually viewed Rai as a principled man---and had Cheddi listened to Rai things would have been different in Guyana.

 

Listen! I never supported Cheddi and his communist nonsense---and we all know Forbes ran circles around Cheddi.

 

Having said that I was pleased when Cheddi took over in 1992----the world had changed---the PNC had bankrupted Guyana----and I rooted for Cheddi.

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by God:
=========

Which category do these former PNC thugs, Lumumba, Kwame, Taps son and House of Israel founder Joe Hamilton fall into? All now prominent PPP members. 

 

Those scoundrels are no angels---they are soup drinkers---they will bolt the PPP the day APNU wins in Guyana.

 

Rev

Like what D_G did when Burnham got into power? 

Mars

The composition of the AFC is mainly persons with super ego-centrism, it was only time before it got the better of them, and would lead to self-destructive...the AFC is doomed!!!

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
 

Rev, I know the others switched parties. Please tell me which Party Balram Singh Rai went to? Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?


Don:

 

Rai ought not be categorized with Teekah, Chandi, Moses and Ramjattan.

 

Mistake on my part---I should have omitted him from the list of traitors and turncoats.

 

My dad actually viewed Rai as a principled man---and had Cheddi listened to Rai things would have been different in Guyana.

 

Listen! I never supported Cheddi and his communist nonsense---and we all know Forbes ran circles around Cheddi.

 

Having said that I was pleased when Cheddi took over in 1992----the world had changed---the PNC had bankrupted Guyana----and I rooted for Cheddi.

 

Rev

 

Thank you for clearing that up. I agree with the last paragraph.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

What did Burnham offer you? You were a PNC supporter, Soup Drinker.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Gerhard has been silent for a while. Would he be next to defect?

 

Gerhard Ramsaroop and his lovely wife are devastated--heartbroken----they put a lot of time and effort into the AFC---sacrificed their business at times---and now they feel betrayed--ALL GONE LAKE!

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I wonder why they cchose APNU over the PPP/C?

 

Did it ever cross your mind that PPP don't need traitors and rejects from the AFC? They chose APNU because only APNU will accept AFC outdated economists. Don't jump on the PPP. This is not their problem. This is AFC problem. When it all said and done, only Moses and Ramjattan will be left for you to glorify.  

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

THE HARDCORE AFC SUPPORTERS(GROUPIES) ON GNI ARE IN A STATE OF SHOCK!

 

I can't get over it.

As soon as I saw TK in the APNU release, I suspected an earthquake was going to take place. This looks more like a vindictive move on their part--going to PNC (Oops, APNU). They will regret it.

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I wonder why they cchose APNU over the PPP/C?

 

Did it ever cross your mind that PPP don't need traitors and rejects from the AFC? They chose APNU because only APNU will accept AFC outdated economists. Don't jump on the PPP. This is not their problem. This is AFC problem. When it all said and done, only Moses and Ramjattan will be left for you to glorify.  

 I agree with you Cobra. The PPP needs former House of Israel murderers who have Indian blood on their hands. Suddenly the dunce killers become Presidential advisers. Next election the President will make one of them his Prime Ministerial Candidate.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

Your choice to wander, wonder, etc., etc., etc..

FM

The folks listed as defectors are inconsequential as they didn't bring any votes or supporters to the party.  TK,the most prominent of the lot, is a failed economist relegated to teaching at a second rate university. They neither brought supporter nor are they taking any supporters to the PNC. ahahahh

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

What did Burnham offer you? You were a PNC supporter, Soup Drinker.

Mitt, I was never a Burnham  supporter and will never be. Burnham say you got to be born a PNC, you just cannot become a PNC. God bless me with a brain and I use it wisely.

FM

Khemraj Ramjattan:

AFC Leader, Khemraj Ramjattan expressed disappointment at the move, saying that while he was unaware of discontent in his party, bla, bla, bla.

He was also unaware of Nigel & Cathy Hughes conflict of interest, but he chose to defend them with his last breath of lies. If you don't know what is going in your party, then why be a leader? Well, Mr. Ramjattan there is more to come, and you will still be unaware. Your new name should beunderwear.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

Because he was a PNC stooge at that time, slurping soup from the Kabaka's trough.

Mars
Originally Posted by God:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

Because he was a PNC stooge at that time, slurping soup from the Kabaka's trough.

You need to change your name from God to Devil. Rai will never stoop to your or the PNC level. He was a principled man unlike you. So shut you stink mouth and go likk Granger BT lil bit. I know that you like Butta.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by God:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

Because he was a PNC stooge at that time, slurping soup from the Kabaka's trough.

You need to change your name from God to Devil. Rai will never stoop to your or the PNC level. He was a principled man unlike you. So shut you stink mouth and go likk Granger BT lil bit. I know that you like Butta.

I'm not talking about Rai. D_G was the PNC stooge. You need to be up to date with what happens around here if you're going to participate. Like you lick Granger BT before since you know what's in there. 

Mars
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I wonder why they cchose APNU over the PPP/C?

 

Did it ever cross your mind that PPP don't need traitors and rejects from the AFC? They chose APNU because only APNU will accept AFC outdated economists. Don't jump on the PPP. This is not their problem. This is AFC problem. When it all said and done, only Moses and Ramjattan will be left for you to glorify.  

Even canecuttters who traditionally voted for the PPP is giving them the Larwah!  They are turning to the AFC. Why?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by God:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

Because he was a PNC stooge at that time, slurping soup from the Kabaka's trough.

You need to change your name from God to Devil. Rai will never stoop to your or the PNC level. He was a principled man unlike you. So shut you stink mouth and go likk Granger BT lil bit. I know that you like Butta.

LOL!  Dada, he is talking about D-G. You missed it.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by God:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Please tell me what Rai said to Forbes Burnham when he Kabaka offered him any cabinet position he wanted?

Forbes Burnham never offered a cabinet position to Balram Singh Rai.

Cheddi didn't tell you?

I personally know/knew Balram Singh Rai.

I wonder why he didn't tell you then.

Because he was a PNC stooge at that time, slurping soup from the Kabaka's trough.

You need to change your name from God to Devil. Rai will never stoop to your or the PNC level. He was a principled man unlike you. So shut you stink mouth and go likk Granger BT lil bit. I know that you like Butta.

LOL!  Dada, he is talking about D-G. You missed it.

OK Mitts - Point taken. Thanks.

FM

Khemraj Ramjattan had issues with the PPP and he bolted.  Somehow Granger must have convinced thse idiots that APNU would win the next election, just as Ramjattan had convinced them that the AFC was going to win in 2011.

R

This must be a strategic move to get AFC on board with APNU to secure a win in the next election. If AFC intends to stay independent, it may be the same as today gridlock if the PPP loses the parliament again.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

This must be a strategic move to get AFC on board with APNU to secure a win in the next election. If AFC intends to stay independent, it may be the same as today gridlock if the PPP loses the parliament again.


Interesting!

 

Moses was the only AFC executive totally opposed to a coalition with APNU----all the others were amenable to a coalition.

 

Well, some of the AFC boys have begun deserting.

 

The Rev still sees Ramotar winning the next election----incumbents don't lose easily.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

This must be a strategic move to get AFC on board with APNU to secure a win in the next election. If AFC intends to stay independent, it may be the same as today gridlock if the PPP loses the parliament again.


Interesting!

 

Moses was the only AFC executive totally opposed to a coalition with APNU----all the others were amenable to a coalition.

 

Well, some of the AFC boys have begun deserting.

 

The Rev still sees Ramotar winning the next election----incumbents don't lose easily.

 

Rev


He did not win the past election. He lost to the joint opposition by one seat. Next time around, it's possible that he may lead the opposition.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
====


He did not win the past election. He lost to the joint opposition by one seat. Next time around, it's possible that he may lead the opposition.


Ramotar did not win the election ?

 

Really ?

 

Then who is President and which party controls the executive branch, where all the milk and honey flows ?

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

Despite the PPP complacency and despite all the charges of corruption that was thrown against Jagdeo and his cabal, the PPP still managed to get 48.6% of the votes in the 2011 election.

 

And in the next election---the probability favors the incumbent Ramotar winning the presidency again.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
====


He did not win the past election. He lost to the joint opposition by one seat. Next time around, it's possible that he may lead the opposition.


Ramotar did not win the election ?

 

Really ?

 

Then who is President and which party controls the executive branch, where all the milk and honey flows ?

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

Despite the PPP complacency and despite all the charges of corruption that was thrown against Jagdeo and his cabal, the PPP still managed to get 48.6% of the votes in the 2011 election.

 

And in the next election---the probability favors the incumbent Ramotar winning the presidency again.

 

Rev

That's right. He did not win the election. He won the Presidency. In a true democracy, this would not have happened.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

That's right. He did not win the election. He won the Presidency. In a true democracy, this would not have happened.


This was the result of the 1992 presidential election in America:

 

43.01%---Clinton(Democrat)

 

37.45%---Bush(Republican)

 

18.91%---Perot(Independent)

 

CLINTON WON THE PRESIDENCY----43.01% of the votes won him the electoral college.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will you say America is not a true democracy---Clinton won the Presidency in 1992 with 43% of the votes ?

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

That's right. He did not win the election. He won the Presidency. In a true democracy, this would not have happened.


This was the result of the 1992 presidential election in America:

 

43.01%---Clinton(Democrat)

 

37.45%---Bush(Republican)

 

18.91%---Perot(Independent)

 

CLINTON WON THE PRESIDENCY----43.01% of the votes won him the electoral college.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will you say America is not a true democracy---Clinton won the Presidency in 1992 with 43% of the votes ?

 

Rev

 

America have many checks and balances to tame the powers of the President. Guyana has none except corrupt chosen politicians. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

That's right. He did not win the election. He won the Presidency. In a true democracy, this would not have happened.


This was the result of the 1992 presidential election in America:

 

43.01%---Clinton(Democrat)

 

37.45%---Bush(Republican)

 

18.91%---Perot(Independent)

 

CLINTON WON THE PRESIDENCY----43.01% of the votes won him the electoral college.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will you say America is not a true democracy---Clinton won the Presidency in 1992 with 43% of the votes ?

 

Rev

 

America have many checks and balances to tame the powers of the President. Guyana has none except corrupt chosen politicians. 


HAHAHA Listen to this LARWA!!!!  DEm Laka Gaumont Prostitute, a different PRICE a different Day!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
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HAHAHA Listen to this LARWA!!!!  DEm Laka Gaumont Prostitute, a different PRICE a different Day!!!!


Nehru:

 

You know JB is TK, right ?

 

Rev

FM

Dat SHAMELESS BLOOSD SUCKING LEACH TK is desperate fuh Minista Wuk, he bin want Jagdeo appoint him Minista, when he did not get that, he run like a HOE he is to KFC, now he is confident KFC is a Wata Wash Party, he ran like a Dog he is to PNC. Desperation does get you not ONLY SHAMELESS but also MAD!!!

Nehru

I've been saying all along that the AFC has squandered the little political capital it had. The sense-man dem in the AFC already sensed a sinking ship. The jumping like crazy. Those who choose to stay on will go down with the ship. Our dear brother TK has moved under the Palm Tree. It's sheltering him good for now, but not for long.

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
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HAHAHA Listen to this LARWA!!!!  DEm Laka Gaumont Prostitute, a different PRICE a different Day!!!!


Nehru:

 

You know JB is TK, right ?

 

Rev

 

I have told you before I am not that gentleman. I do have on file all the things he has written. He has been very generous to many economics students at UG, including JB. Mr Nehru knows that. 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Dat SHAMELESS BLOOSD SUCKING LEACH TK is desperate fuh Minista Wuk, he bin want Jagdeo appoint him Minista, when he did not get that, he run like a HOE he is to KFC, now he is confident KFC is a Wata Wash Party, he ran like a Dog he is to PNC. Desperation does get you not ONLY SHAMELESS but also MAD!!!

 

 Rum is not good before 12 noon. 

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I've been saying all along that the AFC has squandered the little political capital it had. The sense-man dem in the AFC already sensed a sinking ship. The jumping like crazy. Those who choose to stay on will go down with the ship. Our dear brother TK has moved under the Palm Tree. It's sheltering him good for now, but not for long.

 

Mr Balgobin,

 

The palm is a great tree with many uses. 

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

The gov't can use the palm trees to build another benab in front of the Marriott.

It might not hurt to add some humanity to that money laundering scheme. 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
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HAHAHA Listen to this LARWA!!!!  DEm Laka Gaumont Prostitute, a different PRICE a different Day!!!!


Nehru:

 

You know JB is TK, right ?

 

Rev

Could be but I don't expect a SHAMELESS HOE not to hide.

Nehru

Like typical Guyanese politicians, TK is shuffling around the various parties till he finds the best opportunity.  A few professors have become very embittered about Guyanese politics because they sacrificed their lives for the PPP and were promised ambassador positions but BJ gave the jobs to others.   

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
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HAHAHA Listen to this LARWA!!!!  DEm Laka Gaumont Prostitute, a different PRICE a different Day!!!!


Nehru:

 

You know JB is TK, right ?

 

Rev

Could be but I don't expect a SHAMELESS HOE not to hide.

 

Mr Nehru why do you use only a few words? 

FM
Originally Posted by Observer:

Like typical Guyanese politicians, TK is shuffling around the various parties till he finds the best opportunity.  A few professors have become very embittered about Guyanese politics because they sacrificed their lives for the PPP and were promised ambassador positions but BJ gave the jobs to others.   

 


TK is like that rolling stone---moving from party to party---what's the proverb again ?

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
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HAHAHA Listen to this LARWA!!!!  DEm Laka Gaumont Prostitute, a different PRICE a different Day!!!!


Nehru:

 

You know JB is TK, right ?

 

Rev

Could be but I don't expect a SHAMELESS HOE not to hide.

 

Mr Nehru why do you use only a few words? 


Exactly, so that there is NO EXCUSE that you don't understand. 

Nehru
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Observer:

Like typical Guyanese politicians, TK is shuffling around the various parties till he finds the best opportunity. 

 

TK is like that rolling stone--- moving from party to party--- what's the proverb again ?

 

Rev

Tarron Khemraj's twirl ....

 

PPP/C => ROAR => AFC=> PNC => ???

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by God:
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Which category do these former PNC thugs, Lumumba, Kwame, Taps son and House of Israel founder Joe Hamilton fall into? All now prominent PPP members. 

 

Those scoundrels are no angels---they are soup drinkers---they will bolt the PPP the day APNU wins in Guyana.

 

Rev


The fcat that the PPP accepted them means that they approve of them.  So what does that say about the PPP?

FM

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