Anyone who writes for Guyana Times and justifies the elected oligarchy on racial reasoning is a joker. Anyone who fails to acknowledge the damage the PPP has done to East Indians is a joker. And I know who you are. Don't mess with me. I am not a sentimental coolie and coward to hide what I say behind strange handles. 

You are not going to use your real handle to tell me that crap.

The Role of Robber Barrons wsho are also Snakeoil Salesmen demand that TK say, write and do the things he do.It is all part of who he is.

I would ask you to withdraw the comment about the financiers being Indo-Guyanese racists. It is patently untrue and insulting to some good people I know.

Can Moses Nagamootoo as the AFC Presidential Candidate Swing 10%?

Definitely YES.

Maybe more but it all depends on the political work on the ground.

Moses is the only living politician in Guyana who can steal votes from the PPP at this present moment.

That is a unique feature that cannot be replicated easily.

Ronald:

If Moses has as much faith in himself as you have in him, he'll do wonders in the next election if he is, indeed, the AFC's presidential candidate..

By the way, dont be surprised to see Nigel and Trotty put the royal screw on poor Moses---I'd be very surprised if he is the AFC's presidential candidate---he is longing to be the AFC's presidential candidate---but he'll likely be screwed.

Rev

Hello Rev Al:

Firstly let me take this opportunity to wish you a Happy New Year.

Secondly thanks to AMRAL, for approving my application on Dec 26th 2012 to join this forum.

Thirdly - My name is Sasenarine Singh.

Fourthly - I have no interest in bantering who is right and who is wrong but to focus on the developmental issues and the purely political issues.  I am way too busy to do anything else. 

The elections are over and the next one will be in 4 years time (all this talk of snap election is just HOT AIR).  During that time we should all focus on the people issues and how to help the poor and the working class improve their lot.

To our debate:

In your answer to another blogger you mentions that "don't be surprised to see Nigel and Trotty putting the royal screw on poor Moses..."

Politics will always have intrigues and political maneuverings but to say the above is being very economical with the truth.

If you know a GOOD human being like Nigel Hughes you would know that your thoughts are misplaced.

But let us pretend you are CORRECT?  What would be the reaction of the ordinary Guyanese voters to the reality if your wish comes through?

I have my personal views but I hold my peace FOR NOW.

Hello Rev:

Wasn't Moses led to believe last year the AFC would nominate him as speaker ? Well, Trotty ended up as speaker! What happened ? Looks like Moses was royally screwed---Trotty and Granger worked out a deal behind Moses' back. Right now Moses' name is being tossed around as the AFC's presidential candidate in the next election---Moses shouldn't get his hopes up too high---he'll likely be screwed again.

Rev:

The AFC got its own GT based leadership council so I cannot speak on their behalf.

What I can say is that Team AFC is not in control of Team Granger and visa versa.

EVERY SITUATION HAS CONTEXT.

Team Granger has made some decisions that did not meet the criteria of political transparency in the past.

EXAMPLES:

1.  The issue of Speakership was one point where Team Granger did not find favour with MOSES but in the end it worked to Moses favour.

TODAY because of his political work and his political pedigree, he is the front runner as the next Presidential Candidate of the AFC.

If he was Speaker he would not have had the latitude to do such a high quality of political work with the people.

2.  VERY IMPORTANT  - Team Granger foisted their candidate into GECOM rather than follow traditions of reserving one seat for the minority opposition party.  That was a "royal screwing" if I am permitted to use your words.

But you must know politics is about the PRESENT MOMENT and even though those past experiences left a severe crisis of trust in place between the AFC and the APNU, we all as Guyanese have to continue to cautiously trust to progress the National Development Agenda.

Similarly, when the AFC voted in favour of the PPP and not with the APNU in the Dec 17th sitting of Parliament, I did not see that as a front page item in the Chronicle?  This is a clear indication that when the PPP is right the AFC will vote with them and when they are wrong - against.

The AFC will act as the conscience of the nation.

That is why we can rubbish all that idle talk of APNU/AFC political alliance.

The reality the PNC is closer to the PPP ideologically than it is to the AFC.

What do you mean by ordinary Guyanese voters ?

Hello Rev:

The poor and the working class.  They decide the winners in Guyana elections, not the boys at Georgetown CLUB.

Absolutely, not the Snakeoil Salesmen here on GNI and the KFC.

Sase:

The Rev respects your point of view. You strike me as being intelligent and well informed.

Now Sase, it's important for you to understand that given Guyana's historical voting pattern, there is zero chance of a 3rd party like the AFC ever winning a general election--ZERO!

In the last election the AFC, energized by Moses leaving the PPP and joining them, captured 10.3% of the votes---many Berbicians who supported the AFC were shocked by that 10.3%---they were led to believe that they AFC would win it all---they received just 10.3% of the vote.

THE AFC WILL ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED IN GUYANA TO BE THE 3RD PARTY!

And there is a ceiling, in terms of percentage of votes received, by 3rd parties---I believe the maximum percentage of votes a 3rd party in Guyana has ever received was 12%---and so the AFC is pretty close to bumping into that ceiling.

Poster Henry made a valid point in another thread that the AFC's novelty has dissipated. We shall find out how much that novelty has eroded in the next election---if they get less than 10% of the votes---they are history.

You said, "the PNC is closer ideologically to the PPP than it is to the AFC." Well sase, you are correct. And those 2 ideologically similar parties, the PPP and PNC, will likely capture 90% of the vote in the next election.

THE AFC WILL ALWAYS BE THE 3Rd PARTY IN GUYANA---THE 10% PARTY.

Rev

Uncle Rev you right.

The PPP will win the plurality again!

TK, don't fall for this claptrap, bro.  Rev (Paul Chandra) is engaging in the same race-baiting he always does.  He is just trying to get an AFCite to agree with his "analysis" for propaganda purposes.

Ronald is right, the PNC's votes are maxed out.  Moreover, Granger will not be their next candidate (age being a major factor), and the AFC will not only draw from the PPP, as he is implying, but will draw even more from the PNC.  

Granger was the PNC's last hurrah, and now that their base feels betrayed, especially because of the events of Linden, many will not vote, and many will switch to the AFC.  A similar fate awaits the PPP, though the amount of absentees there will be greater, and the amount crossing over to the AFC smaller.

The PPP will put great effort to suppressing the fact the AFC will draw from both the PPP and PNC.  Hence, the Rev's narrative here.

Sounds like a dog catching it's tail.

I would go with the thief who did not kill the goose while stealing the eggs.  In real terms the PNC stole much more than the PPP did.  Furthermore, the PNC destroyed by stealing and stole by destroying.  If they are "stealing", then they are more thoughtful about the implications.

Just as you have provided no evidence that the PPP sought to collaborate with the AFC, but preach that the AFC does not want to collaborate, you again make a sweeping statement with no evidence.  

Or is it because mostly blacks died under the PPP's watch, it makes them less murderous?  Or is widespread white collar crime, including the destruction of NIS, less debilitating to our nation than Burnham flying horses to Mathews Ridge?

But if I am missing something though, I'd be grateful for the evidence toward both of your assertions.  Thanks, and I wish you all the best in the coming new year.

u just so love spouting illiterate shyte . . . Oswald Bates with an internet connection, smh

Stealing by the PNC can never match what this current PPP government is currently siphoning from the treasury on a daily basis. The country did not fall into bankruptcy because of PNC stealing but because of the socialist/nationalization policies pursued by the PNC which stifled investment and growth. A strategy which was by the way endorsed by the communist PPP via "Critical Support". The current Jagdeo/Rummouthar cabal is exponentially the biggest tiefin government in the history of Guyana and you trying to revise history can never change that.