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Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

Rev

 

The PPP ran a terrible campaign the last time around. They must return to grassroots political campaign and they will win another majority next time around. The million dollar question is whether the PNC will resort to their official policy of loot, burn and murder of Indo Guyanese after they lose the election.

 

 


Yuji:

 

Excellent post!

 

You are right! The PPP ran a terrible campaign in 2011. Complacency also contributed to them losing the majority in parliament.

 

But we can already see things will be different in 2016----AFC is doomed----they will pull less than half the votes they received in 2011----and the PNC will remain the PNC----there is not enough dirty PNC Indians to help them win.

 

 

RE: MOSES NAGAMOOTOO & RALPH RAMKARAN

 

Carl Greenidge is highly confident that these 2 will be a game changer if they choose to join APNU----he will be sorely disappointed.

 

MOSES & RALPH ARE SPENT BULLETS

 

Those 2 losers are full of hatred, bile and anger for the PPP and will not pull Berbicians over to the PNC.

 

Rev 

 

 

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by Cobra:

We need to be bluntly honest with ourselves. Despite our efforts in 2011, APNU managed to get only 40.83% of the votes:

 

This alone indicates that Carl Greenidge is genuinely honest that APNU will not win without the AFC merging with them. He also said Ralph Ramkarran, and Moses Nagamootoo will be great assets to APNU. It means they are trying to weaken AFC at all cost before the next election, hoping some more members will cross over and finally AFC will decide to join. Again, this strategy may not work as planned, but it just sound good for now. Moses lost his credibility with the people, and Ralph is right behind him. BTW, a Granger/Ramkarran ticket will never happen. I trust that the electorates will vote for the doers and throw out the talkers.


WELL SAID! EXCELLENT!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:

Greenidge is, to put it plainly, silly to make such public statements. It is the reason he is stuck at 40% of the vote and lacks the capacity to break through in the areas he mentioned.

Demerara Guy: Perhaps, he is openly stating that the PNC can gain no more than 40% of the votes with its coalition with the numerous groups.

 

Perhaps also, there is an indication that the PNC and its groups might disintegrate before the next election.


Good point DG!

 

Listen!

 

 

Carl Greenidge knows that the most votes, percentage wise the PNC has ever gotten in a free and fair election was 42.3% in 1992.

 

APNU is a coalition of the PNC, the WPA and 2 other parties---they got 40.83% in 2011.

 

That's why Greenidge is bluntly stating that APNU needs genuine vote getters not academics and newspaper article writers in order to defeat the PPP.

 

THE egotists and SOUP DRINKERS WHO BOLTED OVER TO THE PNC RECENTLY----they are not genuine vote getters according to Carl Greenidge.

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

There you have it folks---the PNC are not really excited about the academics and newspaper writers who came over from the AFC, but they would be thrilled to have former PPP executives like Moses Nagamootoo and Raplh Ramkarran.

 

 

DAT IS WORST THAN SOMEONE THROWING DAAG SHIT ON TK FACE.

 

Carl Greenidge was Finance Minister when the PNC was in power---the man has to protect his territory---he suspects an egotist, narcissist, and self promoter/self aggrandizer defecting from the AFC may have eyes on the Finance Ministry---so Carl has chosen to slap that person in the face---or as you colorfully put it---THROW DAAG SHIT ON HIS FACE.lol

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:

Much as TK and some other academics have great ideas, they lack the personality to bring in the votes...you always need a smart man with some personality

 

Ramotar is an ass, but PPP got the Indo vote locked down...so they can up up a goat, and most indos will still vote for them...sad to say


ray:

 

PPP supporters in 2011 were not exactly enthused by Ramotar---many didn't really know him---others found him monotonous, spiritless and boring.

 

BUT YET RAMOTAR PICKED UP 48.6% OF THE VOTES.

 

Going into the next election---Ramotar would have been president for 5 years----and the PPP supporters would be more excited about him-----the incumbency would have helped him out.

 

SO IN 2016 THE PNC HAS NO CHANCE OF DEFEATING RAMOTAR.

 

Carl Greenidge can bray all he wants about APNU wanting to team up with voter getters-----Ramotar has the next election in the bag.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by raymond:

Much as TK and some other academics have great ideas, they lack the personality to bring in the votes...you always need a smart man with some personality

 

Ramotar is an ass, but PPP got the Indo vote locked down...so they can up up a goat, and most indos will still vote for them...sad to say


ray:

 

PPP supporters in 2011 were not exactly enthused by Ramotar---many didn't really know him---others found him monotonous, spiritless and boring.

 

BUT YET RAMOTAR PICKED UP 48.6% OF THE VOTES.

 

Going into the next election---Ramotar would have been president for 5 years----and the PPP supporters would be more excited about him-----the incumbency would have helped him out.

 

SO IN 2016 THE PNC HAS NO CHANCE OF DEFEATING RAMOTAR.

 

Carl Greenidge can bray all he wants about APNU wanting to team up with voter getters-----Ramotar has the next election in the bag.

 

Rev

 

 


Like I said, it aint matter if a goat runs for PPP...just fill in the rest

Indos aint voting for Ramotaur, they vote for PPP

 

got ah bunch ah sheep following ah goat

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by raymond:

Much as TK and some other academics have great ideas, they lack the personality to bring in the votes...you always need a smart man with some personality

 

Ramotar is an ass, but PPP got the Indo vote locked down...so they can up up a goat, and most indos will still vote for them...sad to say


ray:

 

PPP supporters in 2011 were not exactly enthused by Ramotar---many didn't really know him---others found him monotonous, spiritless and boring.

 

BUT YET RAMOTAR PICKED UP 48.6% OF THE VOTES.

 

Going into the next election---Ramotar would have been president for 5 years----and the PPP supporters would be more excited about him-----the incumbency would have helped him out.

 

SO IN 2016 THE PNC HAS NO CHANCE OF DEFEATING RAMOTAR.

 

Carl Greenidge can bray all he wants about APNU wanting to team up with voter getters-----Ramotar has the next election in the bag.

 

Rev

 

 


Like I said, it aint matter if a goat runs for PPP...just fill in the rest

Indos aint voting for Ramotaur, they vote for PPP

 

got ah bunch ah sheep following ah goat


So tell us who they should Vote for and why. I am waiting

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by raymond:

Much as TK and some other academics have great ideas, they lack the personality to bring in the votes...you always need a smart man with some personality

 

Ramotar is an ass, but PPP got the Indo vote locked down...so they can up up a goat, and most indos will still vote for them...sad to say


ray:

 

PPP supporters in 2011 were not exactly enthused by Ramotar---many didn't really know him---others found him monotonous, spiritless and boring.

 

BUT YET RAMOTAR PICKED UP 48.6% OF THE VOTES.

 

Going into the next election---Ramotar would have been president for 5 years----and the PPP supporters would be more excited about him-----the incumbency would have helped him out.

 

SO IN 2016 THE PNC HAS NO CHANCE OF DEFEATING RAMOTAR.

 

Carl Greenidge can bray all he wants about APNU wanting to team up with voter getters-----Ramotar has the next election in the bag.

 

Rev

 

 


Like I said, it aint matter if a goat runs for PPP...just fill in the rest

Indos aint voting for Ramotaur, they vote for PPP

 

got ah bunch ah sheep following ah goat


So tell us who they should Vote for and why. I am waiting

The problem is, Indians are voting with their feet. They either joined the exodus or the stay away from the polls.

Mitwah

Carl Greenidge mentioned two names from the PPP who are vote -getters. They are Ralph Ramkarran and Moses Nagamotoo. Why not Ramjattan? The former PNC minister right to not to mention Ramjattan since never had the capacity to pull votes. Ralph and Moses power to attract votes will waned instantly if they step on the PNC platform..  The PNC is capitalizing on the power struggle within the ruling party.

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Carl Greenidge mentioned two names from the PPP who are vote -getters. They are Ralph Ramkarran and Moses Nagamotoo. Why not Ramjattan? The former PNC minister right to not to mention Ramjattan since never had the capacity to pull votes. Ralph and Moses power to attract votes will waned instantly if they step on the PNC platform..  The PNC is capitalizing on the power struggle within the ruling party.

 

This can be very devastating and unpropitious for the PPP/C. Even with one seat the AFC can still hold the balance of power.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Ray still thinking after an hour. I know he coming with a great answer.


well...not PPP...

I'll say APNU, time for ah change...need other people to get ah shot at the cookie jar

Thank you for being HONEST.  I know how you enjoyed being whipped at Hope Estate. Everyone gets their FUN in different ways.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Carl Greenidge mentioned two names from the PPP who are vote -getters. They are Ralph Ramkarran and Moses Nagamotoo. Why not Ramjattan? The former PNC minister right to not to mention Ramjattan since never had the capacity to pull votes. Ralph and Moses power to attract votes will waned instantly if they step on the PNC platform..  The PNC is capitalizing on the power struggle within the ruling party.

 

 

Excellent observation regarding Ramjattan---he is clearly not a vote getter.

 

It was Moses' presence in the party that catalyzed the AFC in 2011----from 8.2% in 2006 the AFC pulled 10.3% of the votes in 2011.

 

Anway the Moses novelty has evaporated---Moses and Khemraj are now reduced to washing Cathy's panties in the ALL FOR CATHY(AFC) party----and that means the new AFC is doomed.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will Moses pull Berbician votes if he were to hook up with the PNC ?

 

THAT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Carl Greenidge mentioned two names from the PPP who are vote -getters. They are Ralph Ramkarran and Moses Nagamotoo. Why not Ramjattan? The former PNC minister right to not to mention Ramjattan since never had the capacity to pull votes. Ralph and Moses power to attract votes will waned instantly if they step on the PNC platform..  The PNC is capitalizing on the power struggle within the ruling party.

 

 

Excellent observation regarding Ramjattan---he is clearly not a vote getter.

 

It was Moses' presence in the party that catalyzed the AFC in 2011----from 8.2% in 2006 the AFC pulled 10.3% of the votes in 2011.

 

Anway the Moses novelty has evaporated---Moses and Khemraj are now reduced to washing Cathy's panties in the ALL FOR CATHY(AFC) party----and that means the new AFC is doomed.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will Moses pull Berbician votes if he were to hook up with the PNC ?

 

THAT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

 

Rev

Another effeminate post from Rev Subraj.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Ray still thinking after an hour. I know he coming with a great answer.


well...not PPP...

I'll say APNU, time for ah change...need other people to get ah shot at the cookie jar

Thank you for being HONEST.  I know how you enjoyed being whipped at Hope Estate. Everyone gets their FUN in different ways.

well...if yuh too weak not to fight back, then yuh gon get yuh ass whipped...look how dem ME people got rid of their leaders...

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Ray still thinking after an hour. I know he coming with a great answer.


well...not PPP...

I'll say APNU, time for ah change...need other people to get ah shot at the cookie jar

Thank you for being HONEST.  I know how you enjoyed being whipped at Hope Estate. Everyone gets their FUN in different ways.

well...if yuh too weak not to fight back, then yuh gon get yuh ass whipped...look how dem ME people got rid of their leaders...

Good for them WE LOVE our Leader, we DONT want Al YUh Mo Fiah Slo Fiah Gang to impede DEMOCRACY.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Carl Greenidge mentioned two names from the PPP who are vote -getters. They are Ralph Ramkarran and Moses Nagamotoo. Why not Ramjattan? The former PNC minister right to not to mention Ramjattan since never had the capacity to pull votes. Ralph and Moses power to attract votes will waned instantly if they step on the PNC platform..  The PNC is capitalizing on the power struggle within the ruling party.

 

 

Excellent observation regarding Ramjattan---he is clearly not a vote getter.

 

It was Moses' presence in the party that catalyzed the AFC in 2011----from 8.2% in 2006 the AFC pulled 10.3% of the votes in 2011.

 

Anway the Moses novelty has evaporated---Moses and Khemraj are now reduced to washing Cathy's panties in the ALL FOR CATHY(AFC) party----and that means the new AFC is doomed.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will Moses pull Berbician votes if he were to hook up with the PNC ?

 

THAT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

 

Rev

Another effeminate post from Rev Subraj.

The voters of Guyana needs a charismatic leader. One who speaks in a language that convinces Amerinds, Afroes and Indoes to vote for him. So far, every potential leader came from the PPP fold. And I know, even the Jagans din have the interests of the masses at heart. They were more interested in fostering communism. My country is yet to be governed-those crooks who hold the office are more interest in the prestige. Ralph and Moses supported a corrupt regime right to end of their political careers. 

S
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:

 

Former finance Minister and current executive member of the PNC Carl Greenidge has bluntly stated that in order for APNU to defeat the PPP in the next election the party needs to make significant inroads in PPP dominated areas like regions 2, 3, and 6.

 

Greenidge stated that while recent defectors from the AFC were welcomed into the APNU fold, the coalition party needed more bonafide vote getters not just academics and article writers, although he claimed everyone was welcome.

 

"We need to be bluntly honest with ourselves. Despite our efforts in 2011, APNU managed to get only 40.83% of the votes and if we are to surpass the PPP we need to attract leaders who will bring along the votes."

 

When asked if former PPP executives like Moses Nagamootoo and Raplh Ramkarran would be an asset to APNU, Greenidge replied, "those 2 would be game changers. Moses was a huge asset to the AFC in 2011, particularly in Region 6. We definitely have a good chance of defeating the PPP if those 2 decide to come on board. We would love to have them"

 

=================

 

There you have it folks---the PNC are not really excited about the academics and newspaper writers who came over from the AFC, but they would be thrilled to have former PPP executives like Moses Nagamootoo and Raplh Ramkarran.

 

Rev

 

Well, Nagamootoo's contingency shudder when they realized they almost handed the PNC a victory.  That was a one trick pony.  Truth is, Indians felt tricked and will not happen again.  There needs to be substantive legislative change before Indians are ready to entrust power to the PNC.  Many Indians ask, what stops them from doing exactly what the did during 1964-1992.  My answer, nothing.

Then influence the PPP to provide good governace.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:
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The voters of Guyana needs a charismatic leader. One who speaks in a language that convinces Amerinds, Afroes and Indoes to vote for him.

 

Given the ethnic make-up of Guyana---the land of 6 races---and given the Guyana constitution---in any free and fair election the PPP will form the government---even in instances like 2011 when they received less than 50% of the votes---they got 48.6%.

 

This man may not have charisma---but he is perceived to be a decent and honest leader---and he will be re-elected president in 2016:

 

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by seignet:
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The voters of Guyana needs a charismatic leader. One who speaks in a language that convinces Amerinds, Afroes and Indoes to vote for him.

 

Given the ethnic make-up of Guyana---the land of 6 races---and given the Guyana constitution---in any free and fair election the PPP will form the government---even in instances like 2011 when they received less than 50% of the votes---they got 48.6%.

 

This man may not have charisma---but he is perceived to be a decent and honest leader---and he will be re-elected president in 2016:

 

 

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

Jesus Christ Mr Subraj keeps spamming the same thing over and over. Tell us something new. 

FM

 

PLEASE NOTE:

 

The Rev has banned the following posters and will never again respond to them directly on the GNI forum:

 

* JB, a handle created to promote egotist, narcissist and self aggrandizer Tarron Khemraj---the Rev refuses to interact with the JB handle.

 

* Mitwah---the most vulgar and boorish poster on GNI

 

* Jalil

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

 

PLEASE NOTE:

 

The Rev has banned the following posters and will never again respond to them directly on the GNI forum:

 

* JB, a handle created to promote egotist, narcissist and self aggrandizer Tarron Khemraj---the Rev refuses to interact with the JB handle.

 

* Mitwah---the most vulgar and boorish poster on GNI

 

* Jalil

 

Rev

 

Jesus Christ! Envy, jealousy bitterness and acrimony will give you a nervous breakdown. Why would you a man of money and over 2 times Dr TK's age envy TK? Don't be bitter. Don't be envious. 

FM
Originally Posted by seignet:
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I am a Berbician and I tell u, if we realize how much clout we have, we can have the capital moved to Topo Town.


11,634 Berbicians in Region 6 voted for Moses and the AFC in 2011----they were fooled into believing the AFC could win the election.

 

Many were stunned when the AFC only pulled 10.3%.

 

Anway, since you are Berbician, do you have any idea how those 11,634 berbician voters in Region 6---the ones who voted for Moses and the AFC in 2011---how will they vote in 2016---will they now support the ALL FOR CATHY(AFC) party---or will they turn to the big 2 parties ?

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by seignet:
===========

I am a Berbician and I tell u, if we realize how much clout we have, we can have the capital moved to Topo Town.


11,634 Berbicians in Region 6 voted for Moses and the AFC in 2011----they were fooled into believing the AFC could win the election.

 

Many were stunned when the AFC only pulled 10.3%.

 

Anway, since you are Berbician, do you have any idea how those 11,634 berbician voters in Region 6---the ones who voted for Moses and the AFC in 2011---how will they vote in 2016---will they now support the ALL FOR CATHY(AFC) party---or will they turn to the big 2 parties ?

 

Rev

I know region six and everywhere from Guava bush to Rose Hall to Black Bush we see and hear the complaint of PPP corruption. In Guava bush the people said they were promised a good road. They are still waiting. They were promised a reduction of crime, they are still waiting huddled uncertain if they are next each night. They were promised some relief from the constant black out, still waiting. I guess Beharry, Geet Bobby et al got a bridge! The PPP does deliver...when loot potential avails itself.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

====

I know region six and everywhere from Guava bush to Rose Hall to Black Bush we see and hear the complaint of PPP corruption. In Guava bush the people said they were promised a good road. They are still waiting. They were promised a reduction of crime, they are still waiting huddled uncertain if they are next each night. They were promised some relief from the constant black out, still waiting. I guess Beharry, Geet Bobby et al got a bridge! The PPP does deliver...when loot potential avails itself.


Listen Danyael!

 

The PPP took Region 6 for granted in the last election, and they were stunned when 21% of the voters in that region voted for the AFC.

 

Voters in Region 6 felt that the PPP let them down---they felt neglected and abandoned.

 

Shame on the PPP for ignoring a previously loyal and devoted base(Region 6).

 

Losing the majority in 2011 was the best thing that ever happened to the PPP---it eviscerated their smugness and their complacency.

 

Recently the PPP decided to get back to grass root politics---campaigning from door to door---that is good for the party.

 

In 2011 the PPP missed out on a majority by a mere 4700 votes. The party has since learned from its mistakes, and come 2016 it will be majority rule again for Donald Rabindranauth Ramotar and his party.

 

Rev

 

 

 

FM
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APNU needs the vote getters to win an election as per the party's shadow minister Carl Greenidge. He is being honest that his party will not win a future election without AFC on board. He has his rights to express his concern and cast doubt on the rejected academics. I believe he has a genuine concern that APNU is heading for another defeat at the poll.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU needs the vote getters to win an election as per the party's shadow minister Carl Greenidge. He is being honest that his party will not win a future election without AFC on board. He has his rights to express his concern and cast doubt on the rejected academics. I believe he has a genuine concern that APNU is heading for another defeat at the poll.

 

Why are you lying like that nasty dirty racist Rev Subraj? This thread was created by the racist Rev. Please produce the link where Mr Greenidge said that. Rev Subraj typed up that opening post. It is his envious and bitter imagination running wild. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU needs the vote getters to win an election as per the party's shadow minister Carl Greenidge. He is being honest that his party will not win a future election without AFC on board. He has his rights to express his concern and cast doubt on the rejected academics. I believe he has a genuine concern that APNU is heading for another defeat at the poll.

 

Why are you lying like that nasty dirty racist Rev Subraj? This thread was created by the racist Rev. Please produce the link where Mr Greenidge said that. Rev Subraj typed up that opening post. It is his envious and bitter imagination running wild. 

OK, I'll make you a deal. Provide the opposition facts on the PPP corruption and I will provide you the link to Greenidge statement. Fair exchange means no robbery.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU needs the vote getters to win an election as per the party's shadow minister Carl Greenidge. He is being honest that his party will not win a future election without AFC on board. He has his rights to express his concern and cast doubt on the rejected academics. I believe he has a genuine concern that APNU is heading for another defeat at the poll.


Cobra bhai:

 

Although Carl Greenidge was a complete failure as PNC Finance Minister, he at least knows a thing or two about numbers. And the numbers tell him that his beloved PNC is headed for yet another defeat in 2016.

 

Listen cobra! Greenidge is not a stupid man---he knows that the academics and newspaper writers who recently defected from the AFC and hooked up with the PNC---he knows those guys will not bring votes to his party.

 

 

Greenidge, an old dog at politics, also knows that the recent AFC defectors cannot be trusted---they are a bunch of self promoters, self aggrandizers, boasters, and narcissists who are only interested in promoting themselves and their egos.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

A LITTLE VOICE INSIDE HAS ALREADY TOLD CARL GREENIDGE THAT THE PNC IS DOOMED IN 2016.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Reverse like TK haunting you in your dreams at night. BTW the man wants to know if you get de bukta he mailed to you?


HM_Redux:

 

It looks like you forgot to use the JB handle.hahaha

 

 

As you personally know HM_Redux, the JB handle was created on GNI to shamelessly promote one of the egomaniacs who defected from the AFC.

 

Rev

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Reverse like TK haunting you in your dreams at night. BTW the man wants to know if you get de bukta he mailed to you?


HM_Redux:

 

It looks like you forgot to use the JB handle.hahaha

 

 

As you personally know HM_Redux, the JB handle was created on GNI to shamelessly promote one of the egomaniacs who defected from the AFC.

 

Rev

 

Jesus Christ! You are dying with envy, bitterness and low self esteem. You are seeing Dr TK in everything. I hope you don't see him in the bedroom. 

FM

Carl Greenidge has shown that he is honest about the future of the PNC which lies at the current 40 percent margin. The PNC does not need talkers like TK. He failed to deliver with ROAR, PPP/C and the AFC which is now a party imploding beyond repair. TK quotes the loser Ravi Dead as if he is an expert yet the loser Ravi Dead failed to win a single seat.

 

The PNC looking forward is not taking their chances with TK. They prefer politicians who can deliver votes. TK is doomed.

 

FM

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