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Sugar workers listening to the AFC.



From left to right: Nigel Hughes, Moses V. Nagamootoo, Gerhard Ramsaroop and Kenneth Bowman.



Sugar workers listening to the AFC.



Moses V. Nagamootoo, Freddie Kissoon and Nigel Hughes.



From left to right: Cindy Dian Sookdeo, Khemraj Ramjattan, Moses V. Nagamootoo and Nigel Hughes.


Sugar workers listening to the AFC.



Nigel Hughes marching with the sugar workers.



Nigel Hughes and Freddie Kissoon marching with the sugar workers.



Sugar workers marching



Striking sugar worker with a PPP elections giveaway haversack.



The sugar workers said these tractors were reputedly bought for G$18M each, barely worked a few weeks in the fields and then broke down. They further claimed there was no warranty either.

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Blairmont Estate workers remain on strike
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol
Thursday, 16 February 2012 10:46
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Hundreds of sugar workers at Blairmont Estate, West Coast Berbice on Thursday continued strike action, protesting a loss of earnings. They are also demanding the removal of Estate Manager, Corbet Victorine and Field Manager Anil Seepersaud because they believe that those officials are responsible for the pay-loss and other unsatisfactory working conditions.


Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com) saw several hundreds of punts of sugarcane that are awaiting grinding for one week now.

Shortly after listening to workers' grievances and addressing them, Alliance For Change (AFC) Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan told demwaves.com that he plans to formally ask Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU) to offer better representation and cease taking the side of the Guyana Sugar Corporation's (GuySuCo) management. "It's a kind a sensitive route to take but we need to tell GAWU that their trade union representatives are not doing a good job and they, themselves, too are not doing such a good job," he said.

Ramjattan also intends to formally ask GuySuCo and the Minister of Agriculture, Dr. Leslie Ramsammy to remove the Estate Manager.
The estimated 500 workers - on strike at a time when the estate should be grinding - vow to remain on strike if their grievances are not addressed. The field and factory workers include those involved in tillage, weeding and spraying. "We are not here to get replace GAWU. We are here to help GAWU to stand up and have guts for the workers," added the AFC’s Moses Nagamootoo.
The issue is already engaging the attention of the Ministry of Labour.

Estate workers' representative, Suhanlall Ragbeer told demwaves.com that obstacle-removal and sideline dam maintenance payments have been reduced. All estate gates have been locked, preventing workers from having open-access to management officials. With certain pay cuts, he says, cane harvesters' earnings will slump from GUY$25,000 per week to GUY$17,000 per week. "Are we going to work and starve? It's best we stay home and starve. It’s unfair to the working class of people," said Ragbeer.

Workers noted that they are suffering pay cuts while GuySuCo executives travel by plane to Berbice for meetings and Victorine travels to and from Buxton everyday although estate accommodation is provided for him and his family.
FM
Guysuco strike halts sugar sales to Trinidad
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol
Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:47
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Punts of cane awaiting the return of workers at the Blairmont Estate field and factory.

The Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU) and the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuco) were Thursday trying to get Blairmont Sugar Estate workers to call off a nearly one-week old strike that has seen the sugar producer unable to sell the sweetener to Trinidad. Guysuco’s Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Paul Bhim Bhim said the cash-strapped sugar corporation sells 250 tons of sugar to Trinidad weekly but this week there is no sugar and so no could be sold, resulting in the entity losing US$150,000 in much needed earnings. He said there was little chance obtaining sugar from Enmore because that factory is yet to commence grinding. Bhim also said the industrial unrest was biting hard into the sucrose content.

Bhim explained that the 192 punts of sugar cane that are awaiting processing should have produced 110 tons of sugar but with the industrial action, the yield could be as little as 30 tons. There are also 273 tons of burnt but un-cut cane in addition to un-burnt and un-cut canes whose sucrose content will drop. The strike, he added, could result in the crop being prolonged and the next crop entering the May-June rainy season. β€œThe canes are getting older and you will lose sugar,” he said.

The CEO maintained that both Guysuco and GAWU have told workers representatives at Blairmont Estate that there is no basis for the strike. "We had several meetings last Saturday and Sunday and the Chief Labour officer intervened Tuesday night and he instructed the workers to go back because they have no grievance,” he said. Calling the strike action a β€œbit of a standoff at the moment,” he rejected demands by the workers that they be paid more for the clearing of obstacles. He said the field was not in a bad condition and so the workers could not legitimately expect to be paid more.

Asked whether Guysuco, faced with a loss of earnings, would give into the demand by the estimated 500 workers that Estate Manager, Corbet Victorine and Field Manager Anil Seepersaud be removed because it is believed they are responsible for austere conditions, Bhim said that concern was not brought to management’s attention. He defended Victorine and Seepersaud’s performance, β€œthey might have fresh ideads on how to reduce costs” and β€œwe have had no problems with these two managers.” Bhim also credited them with tightening up on attendance and leaving the factory for home shortly after reporting for duty.

Earlier Thursday, executive members of the Alliance For Change (AFC) met with the workers and pledged their solidarity and intervention to address their grievances. Those visiting included Khemraj Ramjattan, Nigel Hughes, Moses Nagamootoo, Gerhard Ramsaroop and Freddie Kissoon.
FM
Day 4: Blairmont Sugar Estate strike…AFC pledges support for workers
FEBRUARY 17, 2012 | BY KNEWS | FILED UNDER NEWS
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Hundreds of sugar workers attached to the Blairmont Estate entered their fourth day of industrial action yesterday to press the Guyana sugar corporation to address several grievances affecting them. The strike action is severely hampering the estate’s operations.

Early yesterday, the workers, supported by a contingent from the Alliance for Change (AFC) gathered once again in front of the estate’s Administrative Block. The AFC team included its Presidential Candidate at the last General Elections Khemraj Ramjattan, Moses Nagamootoo, attorney at law Nigel Hughes, Gerhard Ramsaroop along with former University of Guyana Lecturer Frederick Kissoon. They were on a fact-finding mission to gather and ascertain relevant information pertaining to the issues which led to the action taken by the workers, who braved the early morning rains and aired their concerns in their usual passionate way, calling for the removal of Estate Manager, Corbette Victorine.


Khemraj Ramjattan listens to the grievances from one of the striking estate workers.

The workers commenced industrial action on Monday, holding a picketing exercise in front of the Admin building calling for the immediate removal of Victorine who they said was carrying out β€œdictatorial policies” in the running of the estate.

GUYSUCO in CRISIS

β€œWe in the AFC will support you, they cannot touch you,” said Nagamootoo. β€œThe sugar industry is in crisis. They have to show that they can manage, cut costs, cut production cost, there is a dilemma, they’re going to a bank in Trinidad to get so many billion dollars to pay debtors– they owe people, and they are squandering and overspending and mismanaging, so they have $8B to $12B in the hole and they are trying to squeeze you (the workers), to squeeze water out of stone to get you to be the scapegoat. That you are responsible for all the bad things happening in the sugar industry….so they’re trying to cut back on your working hours, pay, your necessities, and soon they might even say you cannot have water and that you will have to drink the canal water to cut back on costs. Hard times are ahead and there is no short or easy answer,” he noted. Nagamootoo urged the sugar workers to β€œhold tight” and β€œwe will try to make representation to the union.”


Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo along with other members of the AFC lead the workers in a march in front of the Admin Building yesterday

One of the Guyana Agricultural Workers’ Union (GAWU) representatives said that he attended a meeting on Tuesday with the union’s executive in Georgetown. β€œWe told them the whole estate has problem. He said that the Field Secretary only informed him that harvesters had problems.”
According to the workers’ representative also present at that meeting were Yoganand Persaud, Chief Labour Officer as well as GAWU General Secretary Seepaul Narine.

The representative stated that the Chief Labour Officer β€œdid not give us ample time to say what we had to say…when we speak, he cut you, then make a ruling that we must have a full resumption of work by tomorrow (Wednesday) or we and the union will pay the full consequences.”
β€œI feel that slavery is coming back in the sugar industry,” he noted. Ramjattan enquired from the workers’ representative if the union members at the meeting had said anything at the meeting β€œto put Yoganand Persaud to his place” and the rep answered that the general secretary did not say much on behalf of the workers.

PARLIAMENTARY REPRESENTATION

The AFC leader then pointed out that β€œwe in the AFC can’t really carry that strong line in parliament unless we really understand your problems so we came here to understand these issues.” He stated since his arrival in Blairmont yesterday morning, he had filled almost 15 pages of his notebook with complaints the sugar workers raised with him. β€œIt would appear that NIS contributions, promises being made to the payment of the Annual Production Index (API), and apparently the women section have a huge set of problems.”

Ramjattan noted that before proper representation is made by the party, β€œwe have to articulate your grievances really well. I honestly don’t know how you all are managing with $1400 a day and a weeder $2,000.” The politician told the sugar workers that it is their union GAWU who was supposed to be hearing and listening to their concerns like the AFC was doing. β€œThis is something that GAWU has to be doing, but it has appeared over the years that there has been a close relationship between GAWU and management and that is what is causing the representation to deteriorate. What we have to do is to put some fire on GAWU and give them some beating to represent the workers better, otherwise there should be another union because if they continuously do this thing, you might very well ask for another union,” he said. β€œWe gotta put pressure on GAWU, GUYSUCO and the government. We are well-placed to do that,” he assured.

WORKING WITH APNU

According to Ramjattan, to be effective, the AFC has to work along with the other opposition party, APNU, to get motions passed in parliament
He however pointed out that he was certain that, β€œthem chaps this in GAWU and the government gonna come and tell you, β€˜Ramjattan lying in bed with them black man’, but we can only work to improve your lot when we work along with APNU people to get the 33 Members of Parliament to pass the motion. Don’t allow them to propagandize that Ramjattan lying in bed with Granger and all them PNC leaders, and then the thing turn racial and you workers walk away and cause division, so understand that! They love to come and talk this nasty racism.”

Another sugar worker argued that, β€œAs they want cut costs in GUYSCUO, why don’t they cut from the big ones come down. Them in air conditioned in their houses, awe in the rain and sun. Them a get gas allowance for house and we the little ones feeling pressure. They getting vehicles for driving out, buses to take their children to school. What about cane-cutter children?”

The workers plan to continue industrial action until their demands are met and the Estate Manager is removed.
FM
Blairmont workers to continue striking until demands met
By STABROEK STAFF | LOCAL | FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2012
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GuySuCo’s Blairmont Sugar Estate workers, who are striking to protest new measures that are slashing their wages, yesterday said they will not return to work until their concerns are addressed; they have been on strike since Monday. The workers from different sections participated in a β€˜symbolic march’ yesterday and called for the removal of estate manager Corlette Victorine and field manager Anil Seepersaud.


AFC Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan and party executive Moses Nagamootoo meeting with some of the striking workers

They told Stabroek News that since Victorine took over late last year, they have been denied rights. According to the workers, although they have been protesting for better working conditions for almost one week and punts of cane in the canal have been spoiling while there has been no production, no one has adequately addressed their problems. The workers lamented that the Victorine wants to β€œcut cost but yet he travels to work every day from Buxton” with GuySuCo’s vehicle, even though the estate provides a house at Blairmont for him to stay.


Punts of cane stalled up in the canal because of the strike

A Guyana Agriculture and General Workers Union (GAWU) representative, Rafi Yusuff, explained that each gangβ€”cultivation, harvesting, factory, field workshopβ€”has problems. However, only persons from some of the gangs were selected β€œto go to Georgetown to discuss [the issues] with the management and the union.” The union, he said, is claiming that only two gangs have problems. The workers’ main grouse, Yusuff explained, is with cost-cutting measures that are β€œslashing our money. Now this [estate manager] wants to have production without cost; that is impossible and like he wants to make it possible,” he said.

Yusuff, a fireman, added that he β€œworked 31 years at the estate as a cane-harvester… and the things we are accustomed to this man wants to take it away….” He pointed out that the β€œfireman in our gang used to have one alternative [day] per week to weed the field as extra work but dem tek away that. Every other Sunday we used to have a standby to burn cane and dem tek that away too.”

A delegation from the Alliance for Change (AFC), including Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan, executives Moses Nagamootoo, Nigel Hughes and Gerhard Ramsaroop as well as columnist Frederick Kissoon met the workers yesterday. Nagamootoo told this newspaper that the AFC was β€œhere as a team because we were asked to come.” He said they listened to the grievances of the workers and were expected to β€œmake representation wherever we can.” He also said that they β€œintend to raise these issues with the union [GAWU] and the management of GuySuCo. We want a solution to the problems that the workers are faced with.”

He pointed out that the AFC was not there to β€œknock the union down and we are not here to really blame anybody except that we know there is a problem and it should be resolved.” According to him, it seemed as though the union is in league with the management of the estate and it was β€œnot doing anything for the workers right now.”

A worker from the side-line dam said they used to be paid $3,000 for the job but now that figure would be slashed. They also have to β€œweed between the raw, tall cane to remove obstacles in the hot sun without water.” GuySuCo, the worker explained, was supposed to provide a β€œwater punt with a water-fetcher but now they tell you to make sure you full yuh water-bag and walk with it. But the agreement said only one pint of water you can take with you and when that finish they have to provide.”

Further, the workers said that they are no longer provided with pieces of rope with hooks attached to tie the punts and they have to purchase their own ropes and hooks. The factory workers had told Stabroek News that the manager has implemented a system of keeping the gates locked at all times and that even when it is time for them to leave work to go home, they have to get a pass and β€œget the boss the sign it first.” According to them, β€œThat never happened in the history of this estate… why he [manager] wants to come and change it?” Further, they asked for β€œβ€¦good sense to prevail.” They explained that there was an agreement since 2004 that when the workers go to the estate’s dispensary for medical check-ups they would not go in to work for the day. The managers are β€œtrying to abolish [this] which the workers fought for over the years,” a worker said.

They workers were concerned too that the estate invested millions of dollars in five tractors, which only worked for six weeks and broke down and have been parked for about a year. It was found, according to one of the workers, that the tractors have a β€œmaker’s fault… but nobody is paying heed to it or coming to check them. When you buy new items they are on warranty… but the loosing up was done by Blairmont Estate mechanics. If they want production they should fix them up and give us to work but the estate said the parts didn’t come for them yet.”
FM
15% OF EAST INDIANS VOTED FOR THE AFC IN 2011; only 4% blacks

see the 11:38 post here

The goal of the AFC is to weaken the PPP sufficiently so that their PNC bedmates could return to power.

LOSERS LIKE MOSES, KHEMRAJ AND RAMSAROOP DONT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT THOSE EAST INDIAN CANE FARMERS.

They just want their beloved PNC partners--the Trotmans and the Grangers--to get back into power and rule Guyana again.

THAT MUST NEVER, EVER HAPPEN.




Those dispicable losers should be hung from the tallest trees you could find in Berbice.

Rev
FM
The AFC is not even the party in power, but it has been most vocal and active in representing these poor and abandoned workers. If the PPP had made even half the effort that the AFC makes these canecutters would be back to work well happy.
And what is the thank you that the AFC gets from the PPP? Accusations that the AFC if preventing the canecutters from starving to death as per pPP agenda.
Mr.T
What lies the AFC feeding the poor cane cutters. First the dunce Tarron wrote about perpetuating donkey cart economy, now the AFC in an about face supporting the perpetuation of said donkey cart economy. The days of manual labor are over, without serious mechanization Guyana can not remain competitive with the large producing nations.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The days of manual labor are over, without serious mechanization Guyana can not remain competitive with the large producing nations.

Go tell that to the Chinese and Indians. They manage to make just about anything with their bare hands.
Additionally, almost every piece of high tech precision instrument or equipment is hand built.
Mr.T
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.T:
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The days of manual labor are over, without serious mechanization Guyana can not remain competitive with the large producing nations.

Go tell that to the Chinese and Indians. They manage to make just about anything with their bare hands.
Additionally, almost every piece of high tech precision instrument or equipment is hand built.


At slave labor and the aid of machines manufacturing is achieved in China. But you are a liar to tell us that precision instruments are hand built. This is not the case, machines are used always. The human hand can not produce precision tolerances without the help of machines.
FM
Bai Pavi, when you say you sorry your mouth stink of lies. Before Jagdeo most of these canecutters could buy a lot more with their earnings than what they can do now. The PPP has used and abused canecutters as voting slaves. But every time when it comes to payback for the canecutters, it turns out payback is a bitch.
Conclusion: as far as the PPP is concerned canecutters are expendable, and anyone trying to help them is a bad person. One can only conclude that now the PPP got cocaine to shore up their election coffers, the canecutters are an embarrassment to the PPP.
Mr.T
You are a DUNCE, plain nd simple. I dont need to discuss atopic with you that you have NO knowledge of. sTART AT Basic math and when you get to Math 120, we can talk DUNCE.
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.T:
Bai Pavi, when you say you sorry your mouth stink of lies. Before Jagdeo most of these canecutters could buy a lot more with their earnings than what they can do now. The PPP has used and abused canecutters as voting slaves. But every time when it comes to payback for the canecutters, it turns out payback is a bitch.
Conclusion: as far as the PPP is concerned canecutters are expendable, and anyone trying to help them is a bad person. One can only conclude that now the PPP got cocaine to shore up their election coffers, the canecutters are an embarrassment to the PPP.
Nehru
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
At slave labor and the aid of machines manufacturing is achieved in China. But you are a liar to tell us that precision instruments are hand built. This is not the case, machines are used always. The human hand can not produce precision tolerances without the help of machines.

You think any satellite or rocket is machine built, or that medical scanners are machine built?
Mr.T
A snap election is the best solution



Written by ANDREW WHYTE



Friday, 17 February 2012 22:22



I WOULD like to encourage the PPP to call a snap election which would be best for the country and the people of Guyana. I personally do not see anything moving forward, and if we continue along the same path with the opposition continuing to say they are for the people and the country, this would be as far as we could get.They are lying to themselves and the entire nation. When elections were held and the results came out, I told myself that this was a good thing; it gives each party a voice in Parliament for the benefit of the people. We continue to read in the papers each passing day: that the opposition is NOT looking to ensure the people and the country benefit from positive changes. They are out there only to bring the Government down. They all know in their hearts that there are certain things they must agree on for the benefit of the people and country. But they even refuse to agree to these things.
They need to remember, the PPP, APNU and AFC are not the Government; the people are and we cannot just sit and wait for them to debate and play games like kids.
A snap election should be called and let ONE party have the majority and move this country ahead. If we continue like this, we will NEVER move for the next five (5) years.
APNU,the AFC and the PPP at the end of the day – have nothing to worry about, they all still enjoy all the benefits that come with being in parliament. We the people are losing, not them – CALL a SNAP election and I am absolutely sure, one party will win this time and we all know who that party will be
Nehru
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.T:
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The days of manual labor are over, without serious mechanization Guyana can not remain competitive with the large producing nations.

Go tell that to the Chinese and Indians. They manage to make just about anything with their bare hands.
Additionally, almost every piece of high tech precision instrument or equipment is hand built.


At slave labor and the aid of machines manufacturing is achieved in China. But you are a liar to tell us that precision instruments are hand built. This is not the case, machines are used always. The human hand can not produce precision tolerances without the help of machines.


There is also a nice machine to remove yuh goadee.
Mitwah
As you speaking I can see the Shit running down your legs in FEAR. yippie yippie
quote:
Originally posted by creative:
History was created AFC and we have to thank God for that Victory.This is Strickly for our Brothers and Sisters in Our Guyana,So Bring on the Snap or next Election,God Have the Greatest Plan for Guyana(MIRACLES).We would have a wonderful time campaining again,AFC would be there for our Brothers and Sisters,CHANGE(S)
Nehru
quote:
Originally posted by ABIDHA:
GNI seems to be the media outlet for AFC propaganda.

Cain, why don't you shut you old rass and sit quietly? You get fool with two loafs of bread and a pound of cassava. Keep on making noise like empty barrel.




First. Where on this BB will you find posters who are for the opposition, start threads with negative remarks?

This is done daily by PPP scum, they are the dirtbags that peddle their shyte on this board.

Practically every thread started by these PPP scumbags show how these corruped pricks think.

So, you should also shut your rass if you don't know what you speak of.
cain
quote:
Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Well what a surprise...not a single word of sympathy for the plight of the sugar workers from the PPP people here...


Bhai wa meh go tell yuh....
These people supporting "Ramotar & Jagdeo" are Vultures


These Prostitutes, Pimps and Panty-men are feeding off the Workers-Class of Guyana.
They only have a short time left.
They all will fall with the Short-Time Quickie Prezie who is clinging on to Power by the Burnham PNC constitution.


I challange any one of these Vultures, Cockoraches or Parasites to prove to me they are not Prostituting the Burnham PNC constitution.....


All these Douchebags are proving....is they are not different from Lamumba, Kit Nascimento, Kwame, Evan, Hamilton, Bynoe,


These Douche Bags now trying to scare Indians with Racism.

Them ah tell abee Moses and the AFC wuking to give Blackman and PNC Power.

But the truth is explained by Moses
β€œWe in the AFC will support you, they cannot touch you,” said Nagamootoo.
β€œThe sugar industry is in crisis.
They have to show that they can manage, cut costs, cut production cost, there is a dilemma, they’re going to a bank in Trinidad to get so many billion dollars to pay debtors– they owe people, and they are squandering and overspending and mismanaging, so they have $8B to $12B in the hole and they are trying to squeeze you (the workers),
to squeeze water out of stone to get you to be the scapegoat.
That you are responsible for all the bad things happening in the sugar industry….so they’re trying to cut back on your working hours, pay, your necessities, and soon they might even say you cannot have water and that you will have to drink the canal water to cut back on costs.

Hard times are ahead and there is no short or easy answer,” he noted. Nagamootoo urged the sugar workers to β€œhold tight” and β€œwe will try to make representation to the union.”

"We are not here to replace GAWU.
We are here to help GAWU to stand up and have guts for the workers,"
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Estate workers' representative, Suhanlall Ragbeer told demwaves.com that obstacle-removal and sideline dam maintenance payments have been reduced. All estate gates have been locked, preventing workers from having open-access to management officials. With certain pay cuts, he says, cane harvesters' earnings will slump from GUY$25,000 per week to GUY$17,000 per week. "Are we going to work and starve? It's best we stay home and starve. It’s unfair to the working class of people," said Ragbeer.

Workers noted that they are suffering pay cuts while GuySuCo executives travel by plane to Berbice for meetings and Victorine travels to and from Buxton everyday although estate accommodation is provided for him and his family.
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"These Douchers are not telling us....that Moses and the AFC now got them clinging on to the PNC-Blackman Constitution".
Come on Douche.....lets hear the Truth now.




Coo-noo-moo-noo Vultures have no shame.....
Douche Bags now turning to Race Hate.

Cobra,

Rev Al aka Mufti,Pundit and Rabbai,

Albert from Monkey Mountain,

Big_Seed aka Godie-Walla,

Nehru,aka Phagla Bhai-gee.

Rama_$kunt aka Sagi-wang,

Abidha



Discriptipn of the Jagdeo-Ramotar Douches we are dealing with.....
http://www.urbandictionary.com....php?term=douche+bag
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Nehru:
Snakeoil Salesmen Ranjhaaaatan and CO are now taking over GAWU, TUC and everything like the Russian Dictators of old.

Look how abie mattie coolie cuss abie mattie an' ah run way laka wan lil wet p.u.ssy cyat wenn a blackman get he tempa. Alyuh lil coolies like thro bricks from up deh but abie gafa deal wid da ricochet donk hay. Wy alyuh nah come donk hay and stand up to black man juss how yuh cuss yuh mattie coolie and yuh wife dem.
FM
Coo-noo-moo-noo Vultures have no shame.....
Douche Bags now turning to Race Hate.

Cobra, ............
It Is Ramotar & Jagdeo who holding the Working class Hostage


Rev Al aka Mufti,Pundit and Rabbai,........
The Goal of Ramotar and De Cabal is to Rob the State Treasury....and ignore the needs of the Working class


Albert from Monkey Mountain, ........
PNC'ites like Kwame, Lamumba, Nascimento, McClean, Hamilton & Bynoe want us to Pooja them and forget their evil records.


Big_Seed aka Godie-Walla, .....
you need a punt fuh carry yuh seed around......
they should cut yuh seed and feed de Vultures since yuh love them so much.


Nehru,aka Phagla Bhai-gee. ......
Quote: "Small group of Uneducated canecutters".....
This Douche need to tek eeee bag and cover eee head in shame fuh what eee said.


Rama_$kunt aka Sagi-wang,........
What the Canecutters want is a fair days pay for a fair days work...
and De thiefing fuh stop...and get Rid of all them PNC-Indian Haters aya got at OP.


Abidha.........
Dem Berbicians agree to support Moses and to Get rid of aya Prostitute, Pimps and Pantyman




Discriptipn of the Jagdeo-Ramotar Douches we are dealing with.....
http://www.urbandictionary.com....php?term=douche+bag[/QUOTE]
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Well what a surprise...not a single word of sympathy for the plight of the sugar workers from the PPP people here...


What happened to perpetuating donkey cart economy via low wages jobs? Now AFC take over this task from the PPP? hahahh

Why don't you people stress education and training for the sugar workers to enter other fields of work rather than perpetuate the myth that back breaking manual labor will enrich their lives. You charlatans selling these folks a pipe dream. All over the world industries are countering unprofitable manual labor by mechanizing but you people want to keep Guyana in the dark ages for the sake of votes.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
quote:
Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Well what a surprise...not a single word of sympathy for the plight of the sugar workers from the PPP people here...


What happened to perpetuating donkey cart economy via low wages jobs? Now AFC take over this task from the PPP? hahahh

Why don't you people stress education and training for the sugar workers to enter other fields of work rather than perpetuate the myth that back breaking manual labor will enrich their lives. You charlatans selling these folks a pipe dream. All over the world industries are countering unprofitable manual labor by mechanizing but you people want to keep Guyana in the dark ages for the sake of votes.

Bai, mi dozz try tell dem soa. Canecuttah ah wan dead end ting mekking shure peeple stay illiterate and poor. Wah me tink dem need to jab trainin' and bettah livin', but nuf juss waan pik up dem cutlish and goa bak dam, cut cupple bundle an' drink bush rum. Den dem pikney a fall in da saaame trap. Dem peeple diss muss bruk-way and try foa mek someting bettah. Da PPP shud wuk pon jaab retrainin' for dem diss coolie bais. Da AFC shud push da PPP donk datt paath.

Yuh notice da PNC nah give a damn, but abie coolies dozz mek fuss foa dem Linden peeple.
FM
But I will NEVER Cuss your wife, she TREATS me well. Wink
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
quote:
Originally posted by Nehru:
Snakeoil Salesmen Ranjhaaaatan and CO are now taking over GAWU, TUC and everything like the Russian Dictators of old.

Look how abie mattie coolie cuss abie mattie an' ah run way laka wan lil wet p.u.ssy cyat wenn a blackman get he tempa. Alyuh lil coolies like thro bricks from up deh but abie gafa deal wid da ricochet donk hay. Wy alyuh nah come donk hay and stand up to black man juss how yuh cuss yuh mattie coolie and yuh wife dem.
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
But I will NEVER Cuss your wife, she TREATS me well. Wink
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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Snakeoil Salesmen Ranjhaaaatan and CO are now taking over GAWU, TUC and everything like the Russian Dictators of old.

Look how abie mattie coolie cuss abie mattie an' ah run way laka wan lil wet p.u.ssy cyat wenn a blackman get he tempa. Alyuh lil coolies like thro bricks from up deh but abie gafa deal wid da ricochet donk hay. Wy alyuh nah come donk hay and stand up to black man juss how yuh cuss yuh mattie coolie and yuh wife dem.
sledge have to watch you with is wife.and i though you was a pandit
FM
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Originally posted by Nehru:
But I will NEVER Cuss your wife, she TREATS me well. Wink
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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Snakeoil Salesmen Ranjhaaaatan and CO are now taking over GAWU, TUC and everything like the Russian Dictators of old.

Look how abie mattie coolie cuss abie mattie an' ah run way laka wan lil wet p.u.ssy cyat wenn a blackman get he tempa. Alyuh lil coolies like thro bricks from up deh but abie gafa deal wid da ricochet donk hay. Wy alyuh nah come donk hay and stand up to black man juss how yuh cuss yuh mattie coolie and yuh wife dem.

Bai, mi ting dem deh good rite yah so in GT, nah gett yuhself no wet dreams.
FM
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
But I will NEVER Cuss your wife, she TREATS me well. Wink
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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Snakeoil Salesmen Ranjhaaaatan and CO are now taking over GAWU, TUC and everything like the Russian Dictators of old.

Look how abie mattie coolie cuss abie mattie an' ah run way laka wan lil wet p.u.ssy cyat wenn a blackman get he tempa. Alyuh lil coolies like thro bricks from up deh but abie gafa deal wid da ricochet donk hay. Wy alyuh nah come donk hay and stand up to black man juss how yuh cuss yuh mattie coolie and yuh wife dem.
sledge have to watch you with is wife.and i though you was a pandit

Bai, mi only goa fuh yung ting deeze dayzz.
FM
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Originally posted by Henry:
The election is over and done with. Must we continue to post every AFC press release on this board?

Press releases and elections are two different things. In every democracy the opposition is allowed to update the voters with information. I assume that Guyana is still a democracy, albeit one ruled by criminals.
Mr.T
December 20, 2010 / guyana / .
Statement by Moses Nagamootoo

The threat by the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation (Guysuco) to de-recognise the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers’ Union (GAWU) is intemperate and reckless.

The media report that Guysuco has notified GAWU that it is considering to end the 1976 Recognition and the Avoidance and Settlement of Disputes Agreement with the union, is an extreme provocation.

This year sugar workers were given not a cent either as wage increase or annual bonus as Guysuco did not achieve its set target. The workers were literally expected to β€œproduce or perish”.

I am shocked that the Government could condone this attack on GAWU and the sugar workers; and that leaders of my party, the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), would expect to be in silent conspiracy with this outrage against the vanguard of the working class movement in Guyana. I can no longer remain silent. This is a grave national matter, and one of conscience.

I dissociate myself from what seems to be a state-party alliance in sledge-hammering GAWU, judging from the leading role of Dr. N.K. Gopaul, Permanent Secretary in the Office of the President and former acting Head of the Presidential Secretariat, as Chairman of Guysuco, and Mr. Donald Ramotar, General Secretary of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), who is a prominent member of the Board.

The sugar workers have been the bedrock of the anti-colonial struggles for independence from Great Britain. For 28 years (1948-1976) they fought for industrial democracy and won union recognition. For 28 years (1964-1992) they were in the front trenches for restoration of democratic rule in Guyana. Their struggles gave birth to the PPP, and were exemplified in the commitment of Cheddi Jagan, the sacrifices of the Enmore Martyrs, Kowsilia, and many others.

No one denies that the sugar industry is in crisis due to a combination of exogenous and internal management factors. Low worker turn-out, work stoppages and inclement weather compounded the problem. But the sugar workers cannot be the only scapegoats for failure.

For many years, I have been associated with the cause of Guyana’s sugar workers and, invariably, marched under their banner in their epic fight for union recognition. As a young teacher I founded a school to help mainly sugar workers’ children to get an education. Later, as a journalist, I captured in many feature articles the consistent and unwavering struggles in the sugar belt.

And I can attest that their union has never allowed itself to be intimidated or blackmailed in the past. I expect no more from GAWU which should, with dignity and responsibility, prosecute all reasonable options to end the stalemate in the industry. Strikes must be the last resort.

I also expect Guysuco to re-think its options, and to eschew its intention to de-recognise GAWU. The de-recognition threat ought to be withdrawn immediately and unconditionally before irreparable damage is done. The Government would do well also to explore all possibilities to give the sugar workers even a nominal wage increase. Zero is an insult, not an option.

I’d like to borrow the poignant words of Ricky Singh, a former colleague of mine, when he wrote several years ago in another context, that we should, as we observe Christmas, β€œLight a Candle” for our sugar workers.
FM
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Sugar Workers are no different from all Guyanese. They have a vibrant Union in GAWU which is representing them well. Moses and others seem to want to use the POOR Sugar Workers for Political gains.



The sugar workers invited Moses and his team in to listen to their complaints after their elected representatives did not respond.....incidentially Blairmont is one of many areas neglected by the Jadgaeo/Ramoutar clique.....
FM
Did you see the small Group?? Could it have been orchestrated by AFC????
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Originally posted by Churchill:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Sugar Workers are no different from all Guyanese. They have a vibrant Union in GAWU which is representing them well. Moses and others seem to want to use the POOR Sugar Workers for Political gains.



The sugar workers invited Moses and his team in to listen to their complaints after their elected representatives did not respond.....incidentially Blairmont is one of many areas neglected by the Jadgaeo/Ramoutar clique.....
Nehru
It is unfortunate that people like churchrat and other AFC/PNC supporters are misguiding the sugar workers in Guyana for political gain. The industry has to move away from manual labor in order to be competitive on world markets. These charlatans in the AFC/PNC are hoodwinking the sugar workers into believing that cutting cane is a sustainable profession and non perpetuation of a dankey cart economy. ahahaha
FM
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Originally posted by Nehru:
BGURD, I make this point since he has always stick to the Topic and not spew garbage and insults. He is one of the few Persons I personally can debate with. Let us not confuse him with other Posters.


Apparently the rat is just like the rest, he ignores the impending mechanization of the sugar industry and jump on the band wagon of dankey cart economy for political gain.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
It is unfortunate that people like churchrat and other AFC/PNC supporters are misguiding the sugar workers in Guyana for political gain. The industry has to move away from manual labor in order to be competitive on world markets. These charlatans in the AFC/PNC are hoodwinking the sugar workers into believing that cutting cane is a sustainable profession and non perpetuation of a dankey cart economy. ahahaha



FYI ...I have always supported the PPP and there are many like myself within the PPP overseas support structure who believe that the Jagdeo/Ramoutar clique has screwed the working people of Guyana especially the sugar workers.....

I know for a fact that the strikning sugar workers at Blairmont invited the AFC in after their complaints fell on deaf ears...

One member of the Jagdeo/Ramoutar clique was a PNC appointee at GUYSUCO and was stationed at Blairmont in the late seventie/early eighties....this person who holds a fake PhD was very abusive to the workers when he was stationed there....he now sits on the GUYSUCO board whilst he resides in the USA....

The sugar workers are fighting for what they earn honestly whilst this guys goes home on GUYSUCO's expense....it is rumoured that he even claimed expenses for trips he made to guyana to campaign for ramoutar....
FM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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From left to right: Nigel Hughes, Moses V. Nagamootoo, Gerhard Ramsaroop and Kenneth Bowman.


That fella in the blue shirt has a sly look on his face ...like he is up to something ..lol

The gentleman in the white/cream shirt and black trousers seems like a decent and honest Guyanese ..albeit a bit naive.
FM
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Originally posted by Churchill:


FYI ...I have always supported the PPP and there are many like myself within the PPP overseas support structure who believe that the Jagdeo/Ramoutar clique has screwed the working people of Guyana especially the sugar workers.....

I know for a fact that the strikning sugar workers at Blairmont invited the AFC in after their complaints fell on deaf ears...

One member of the Jagdeo/Ramoutar clique was a PNC appointee at GUYSUCO and was stationed at Blairmont in the late seventie/early eighties....this person who holds a fake PhD was very abusive to the workers when he was stationed there....he now sits on the GUYSUCO board whilst he resides in the USA....

The sugar workers are fighting for what they earn honestly whilst this guys goes home on GUYSUCO's expense....it is rumoured that he even claimed expenses for trips he made to guyana to campaign for ramoutar....


A few individuals abusing the system is not the cause of the sugar industry failure, the bigger picture is that it is been run inefficiently due to dependence on manual labor. The management issue is another matter, that is why I have always advocated that govt run industry is wrong model. How is govt the right body to be running a business?
FM
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Originally posted by Guyanese4eva:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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From left to right: Nigel Hughes, Moses V. Nagamootoo, Gerhard Ramsaroop and Kenneth Bowman.


That fella in the blue shirt has a sly look on his face ...like he is up to something ..lol

The gentleman in the white/cream shirt and black trousers seems like a decent and honest Guyanese ..albeit a bit naive.


What do those guys know about sugarcane and running the industry?
FM
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Originally posted by FC:
This is exactly what the AFC has to continue doing. take the legs right out of the PPP. Demonstrate leadership and maturity and engage the Guyanese populace on key issues that affect them. Be the offical representative of the people.


And stay out of politics. They can take over GAWU and steal the canecutters' money..
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Noel:
The sugar industry has been pulled down to its needs after 20 years of PPP neglect


No it isn't. An idiot like you cannot comprehend
that... The Industry should go hi-teck if they want to save it.
rama watch how you using that word around the ppp ministers,they might think it some thing to thief.that is all they know what to do.why ramottar did not take it hi-teck he was the director.those cane cutters should stone the ppp fools
FM
Statement prepared by Moses Nagamootoo on behalf of the AFC, read by me to the sugar workers yesterday morning:


The AFC will bring together all what we heard from you on Thursday, and what we will hear today from the workers in Rose Hall Estate and prepare a dossier so we can have a clear position on the issues.

However, so far:

1. AFC leadership was present and gave solidarity on the ground to you, the striking workers.
2. We listened to your grievances.
3. We helped to give media exposure to your cause, and promoted the issues on internet and overseas.
4. We spoke with GAWU president Komal Chand on Thursday, and apprised him of what we were told, and that we wanted GAWU to take up the fight more vigorously.
5. We spoke with Minister of Labour (Government) and former Guysuco Board Chairman (management) NK Gopaul, and asked for his intervention.
6. We learned that GAWU met with Field reps on Friday, and asked that workers return to work.

This is what is called a "wild cat" strike, not supported by GAWU. We have to be careful not to try to take GAWU's place. The sugar industry is facing a crisis and is heading for closure and/or bankruptcy. The AFC cannot allow itself to be used as scapegoat for any loss of workers' job. This is essentially the union's problem, and we are here in solidarity with you, the workers, and not to replace the union.

And so, this is the AFC’s position:

1. We are NOT opposed to resumption of production
2. The return to work has to be conditional;:
(a) no victimisation of any worker/union rep
(b) no loss of man days
(c) union/management should report to workers within 2 weeks on solution to problems.

End.
FM

The strike continued on Feb. 20. - Kojo McPherson photo.


The strike continued on Feb. 20. - Kojo McPherson photo.


The strike continued on Feb. 20. - Kojo McPherson photo.


Gerhard Ramsaroop addressing the sugar workers, Feb. 20. - Cindy Dian Sookdeo photo.


Gerhard Ramsaroop speaking with the sugar workers, Feb. 20. - Leon Jameson Suseran photo.
FM
GR, Moses, Nigel, Ramjattan are simply wasting time but desperately trying to gain Political Points. Point to Note, Sugar Workers are paying for GAWU to represent them. Also, GAWU is competent and experienced with dealing with such matters. The AFC can try to form a Union and oppose GAWU as the legal Reps. SHAMELESS POLITICAL PROSTITUTES I tell you.!!!!
Nehru
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This is what is called a "wild cat" strike, not supported by GAWU. We have to be careful not to try to take GAWU's place. The sugar industry is facing a crisis and is heading for closure and/or bankruptcy. The AFC cannot allow itself to be used as scapegoat for any loss of workers' job. This is essentially the union's problem, and we are here in solidarity with you, the workers, and not to replace the union.

And so, this is the AFC’s position:

1. We are NOT opposed to resumption of production
2. The return to work has to be conditional;:
(a) no victimisation of any worker/union rep
(b) no loss of man days
(c) union/management should report to workers within 2 weeks on solution to problems.


Good job Gerhard. Keep the pressure on.
Mitwah

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