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Randolph Turpin/Julius Soubise

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Randolph Turpin

Randolph Turpin

Britain's first black world boxing champion

On 10th July, 1951, Randolph Turpin made history by beating Sugar Ray Robinson to become middleweight champion of the world. This was a great achievement; Sugar Ray Robinson had only been beaten once, out of a total of 133 professional fights.

Randolph Turpin was born in Leamington on 7th June 1928. He was a cook in the Royal Navy, and had a very successful amateur career, becoming A.B.A welterweight champion in 1945. In 1946 he turned professional, and won all his first 19 fights. He became British middleweight champion in 1950 and European champion in 1951.

He only held the world title for 64 days, when Robinson reclaimed the title in a rematch in October 1951. However he continued to gain further national titles, including the Lonsdale belt for becoming British Light Heavyweight champion three times, in 1952, 1955 and 1956. He was also Commonwealth Light Heavyweight champion in 1952.

Tragically, Randolph faced many problems towards the end of his life and committed suicide in 1966, aged just 37. In 1979 a plaque was unveiled in Leamington Town Hall in his memory, and in 2001, he was inducted into the American International Hall of Fame, the ultimate award that a boxer can achieve.

Defeating Sugar Ray Robinson

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Julius Soubise

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Julius Soubise

swordsman of the 18th century

In 1764 Captain Stair Douglas of the Royal Navy mentioned to the Duchess of Queensbury that he had in his possession a smart and intelligent Negro boy, aged about 10, whom he had bought in St.Kitts. Would the Duchess like him as a present? Struck by the African's good looks as well as his intelligence, the Duchess accepted him. She named him Soubise, sent him to school, dressed him well and generally made a pet of him as was the fashion of the day. Apparently he attended Eton and was said to be a good violinist, to have a good singing voice and oratorical skills.

The grateful and affectionate youth soon won the Duke's favour as well, who sent him to Domenico Angelo's Academy, the foremost school for learning fencing and the niceties of riding. The Duchess and her friends frequently attended the visitors' gallery at the Academy to watch her favourite perform his equestrian exercises. The Duchess even managed to persuade Angelo to take Soubise as his articled assistant to teach riding and fencing.

Though Angelo feared that Soubise's 'colour and humble birth might have made him repulsive to his high born pupils' he acquiesced to the Duchess' wishes. Soubise's engaging manner and good nature soon proved Angelo's fears unfounded, and he was a frequent guest at the all-male exclusive dinner parties held at the Academy. He was also a regular guest at other sporting clubs for gentlemen, where he sang songs of his own composition.

As he grew up, Soubise's good looks, pleasant manners and undoubted gifts for gallantry won him the favour of the Duchess' maids, as well, it was rumoured, of the Duchess and numbers of other ladies. However, all this attention apparently spoilt the young man, who began to assume princely airs, becoming one of the most conspicuous -and seemingly over-scented - fops around town. Angelo dismissed him from his most congenial job at the Academy. Though the Duchess repeatedly discharged his large debts, he slowly also began to lose her favour.

The final straw was the attempted rape of one of the Duchess' maids, who insisted on prosecuting him. Two days before her death on 17 July 1777, he was sent off to India to earn his living as an accomplished master of riding and fencing. Ignatius Sancho wrote to friends enlisting their aid for the exile, but warning them not to lend Soubise any money. He established an academy in Calcutta, and, through connections, was able to obtain numerous patrons and pupils and even a contract to break horses for the government. Soubise died on 25 August 1798. Nothing is known of his life in India.

2/19/1910:32 PM

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Mars posted:
D_G, you denigrate the memory of Blacks when you post here about their history. Stop pretending that you care just to boost your post count. Only recently you were taunting black members here with pictures of chimpanzees.

Jagdeo ordered him to do this. Part of the usual PPP tokenism strategy.

DG needs to discuss why Ralph Ramkarran thinks that Africans have as much right to fear and detest the PPP as DG will think that Indians have a right to fear and detest the PNC.

DG isnt going to touch that topic though.

2/20/1910:12 PM

PrashadSenior Member

Turpin was a good boxer. I think he was mulatto. There is a statue to him in one of the British cities.

2/20/1910:20 PM

cainTired old hippie

Yugi always said ..ahem...PNC (hint hint) can't even build a toilet. Not only did they do so but many other inventions were by blacks. I hope he reads this thread thoroughly.

2/20/1910:25 PM

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cain posted:
Yugi always said ..ahem...PNC (hint hint) can't even build a toilet. Not only did they do so but many other inventions were by blacks. I hope he reads this thread thoroughly.

Druggie is extremely angry, but given that DG is a soul extremely loyal to Jagdeo, he dare not have a melt down screaming that all of the posts are lies and that blacks do nothing other than beat up people.

2/20/1910:45 PM

cainTired old hippie

I hope he doan get too angry and bust his colostomy bag. Then again he did swim in the same stuff, he might feel right at home.

2/20/1910:58 PM

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Lord David Pitt

Medic, political pioneer and labour peer for Hamstead

Source - http://100greatblackbritons.co...lord_david_pitt.html

The late Lord David Pitt of Hampstead was the longest serving black Parliamentarian, having been granted a life peerage in 1975. He spent his life speaking out for the underrepresented black community in Great Britain.

Born on the island of Grenada in the West Indies, David Pitt attended Grenada Boys' Secondary school and was raised a devout Roman Catholic. In 1932 he won Grenada's only overseas scholarship to attend the prestigious medical school at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. After graduating with honours, he returned to the West Indies in 1938 and practiced medicine in St. Vincent and Trinidad. There he met and married Dorothy Alleyne; they had three children.

In 1943 Pitt helped found the West Indian National Party and served as its president until 1947. This party was considered radical in its day because it advocated independence for Trinidad within a West Indian federation. He won election to the borough council in San Fernando, Trinidad, where he also served as deputy mayor. In order to lobby the British government for independence, he travelled to Great Britain in 1947. His efforts were unsuccessful, and he grew disillusioned with West Indian politics. He decided to settle in the London district of Euston, where he established a medical practice that he ran for more than 30 years.

In the 1950s, Pitt was one of the few blacks active in defending the growing black population of Great Britain against discrimination and prejudice. In the 1960s and 1970s, he organized to help immigrants and improve race relations. Pitt became the first and only chair of the Campaign Against Racial Discrimination (CARD), an association founded with the encouragement of Martin Luther King Jr. Pitt believed in fighting racism within the existing power structure. In 1959 Pitt sought to represent London's wealthy Hampstead district in Parliament, becoming the first West Indian black to seek a seat in Parliament. After a campaign plagued by racist insinuations, Pitt lost the election.

In 1961, however, Pitt won election representing the ethnically mixed, working-class Hackney district in London's city government, the London County Council (LCC). In 1964 this body was absorbed by the Greater London Council (GLC). He served as deputy chair of the GLC from 1969 to 1970 and in 1974 became the first black chair, a post he held until 1975. Pitt paved the way for the multiracial politics for which the GLC became known.

In 1970 Pitt ran for Parliament again, this time as a candidate in London's Clapham district, a secure Labour seat that many believed he would win. He lost by an unusually large margin; race undoubtedly played a large role in his defeat. He was bitterly disappointed, and did not attempt to run for Parliament again.

In 1975 Prime Minister Harold Wilson appointed Pitt to the House of Lords as Lord Pitt of Hampstead. According to Pitt himself, however, his most valued honour was his election as president of the British Medical Association from 1985 to 1986, a position few general practitioners achieve. After his death, many lamented that Pitt "should have been the first Labour Member of Parliament."

2/21/192:02 PM

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Ignatius Sancho

Writer Musician and Businessman

Source -- http://100greatblackbritons.co...gnatious_sancho.html

The first African prose writer whose work was published in England - his Letters appeared in 1782, two years after his death, and was an immediate best-seller - was born in 1729 on a slave ship in the mid-Atlantic. At Cartagena, on the coast of Columbia, he was christened Ignatius. His mother died soon afterwards, and his father killed himself rather than exist as a slave. When Ignatius was about two, his owner brought him to England and gave him to three maiden sisters who lived in Greenwich. These ladies called him Sancho because they thought he looked like Don Quixote's squire. They did not believe in the education of slaves; nonetheless, Ignatius taught himself to read and write.

The Duke of Montagu, who lived in nearby Blackheath, liked the young man's acquisitive nature and bought him books, and tried to persuade the sisters to educate him, but they would not, So Ignatius ran away, and stayed with the Montagus. The duchess engaged him as a butler, and he was able to indulge in his passion for reading and subsequently wrote poetry, two stage plays and a Theory of Music dedicated to the Princess Royal. He was also a composer, with three collections of songs, minuets, and other pieces for violin, mandolin, flute and harpsichord all published anonymously. He loved the theatre and would regularly go to Drury Lane to see the great actor Garrick, who later became a friend
Sancho was embraced by London's literary and artistic set.

Gainsborough painted his portrait in 1768. He also became friends with the historical painter John Hamilton Mortimer, and the writers Samuel Johnson and Laurence Sterne. Sancho left the service of the Montagus in 1773, and with a legacy left to him by the Duchess of Montagu, he opened a grocery shop in Charles Street, Westminster with his wife Anne. He died in 1780, and two years later his Letters were published, proving that 'an untutored African may possess abilities equal to a European'. His work attracted over 1,200 subscribers. 'Let it no longer be said', wrote one reviewer, 'by half informed philosophers, and superficial investigators of human nature, that Negers, as they are vulgarly called, are inferior to any white nation in mental abilities'.

2/22/192:50 PM

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Comrade LFS Burnham: Former President of the Republic of Guyana. Everyone who lives through his era of governing has something good to say. Free Education, Principles, self-respect, and dedication to country. All of us on GNI is a son/daughter of his time. R.I.P.

2/22/193:20 PM

NehruBig Mouth Member

Hey Prince, yuh skont want 2 Patkay??????????????

2/22/193:30 PM

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Ezekiel Jackson

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Rycklon Ezekiel Stephens

Rycklon Ezekiel Stephens^[1] (born April 22, 1978)^[1] is a Guyanese-American retired professional wrestler and bodybuilder. He is best known for his appearances with WWE from 2008 to 2014 under the ring name Ezekiel Jackson, where he held the ECW Championship (being the last titleholder) and the WWE Intercontinental Championship.^[3]^[5]^[6]^[4] He also competed in one season of Lucha Underground as Big Ryck. He is the owner of the Redwood City, California-based professional wrestling promotion and school Bryckhouse Pro Wrestling.

World Wrestling Entertainment/WWE

Florida Championship Wrestling (2007–2008)

Stephens in FCW

Stephens signed a developmental contract with World Wrestling Entertainment in March 2007 and debuted in Florida Championship Wrestling (FCW) in late June.^[1] In his debut match on June 27, he teamed with Keith Walker to defeat Kofi Kingston and Eric Pérez.^[1] He continued to compete in the promotion in both tag team and singles matches. On February 8, 2008 he competed in a match with tag partner Bryan Kelly in a losing effort against Steve Lewington and Heath Miller in a mini-tournament to face the WWE Tag Team Champions John Morrison and The Miz.^[1] On May 6, 2008, Stephens wrestled his final match in FCW before being called up to WWE's main roster.^[1]

The Brian Kendrick's bodyguard (2008–2009)

After being trained in FCW, Stephens debuted on the July 18, 2008 episode of SmackDown under the name Ezekiel, as The Brian Kendrick's bodyguard.^[8] On the August 8, 2008 edition of SmackDown, his ring name was tweaked to Ezekiel Jackson, and he was revealed as being Kendrick's "advisor". He then began interfering in Kendrick's matches against Jeff Hardy, Finlay, and WWE Champion Triple H. On the October 17 episode of SmackDown, Jackson made his official in-ring debut by quickly defeating Super Crazy, after replacing a supposedly sick Kendrick.^[9] In late 2008, Jackson began teaming with Kendrick and both began feuding with the Tag Team Champions The Colóns (Carlito and Primo), although Kendrick and Jackson failed to win the championship.^[10]^[11]^[12] He suffered his first defeat on the February 13, 2009 episode of SmackDown, when he lost a singles match to R-Truth.^[13] Jackson made his final appearance on the SmackDown brand in a losing effort against Jeff Hardy on the April 3, 2009 episode.^[14]

The Ruthless Roundtable and ECW Champion (2009–2010)

On April 15, 2009, Jackson was drafted to the ECW brand as part of the 2009 Supplemental Draft, therefore breaking up the team of himself and Kendrick.^[15] Jackson returned to FCW for further training, however, without making an immediate appearance for the brand.^[16] He made his ECW debut defeating Jack Meridol on the July 9, 2009 episode.^[17] Jackson then began an angle with Vladimir Kozlov in which, week after week, after one of them had squashed a local competitor, the other would come out and hit their finishing move on the fallen opponent in a game of one-upmanship.^[18]^[19]^[20]^[21] On the August 18 episode of ECW, Jackson formed an alliance with Kozlov and William Regal after betraying the ECW Champion, Christian, during a tag team match to side with them, and attacking Christian at Regal's request.^[22] Kozlov and Jackson aided Regal in his feud with Christian over the ECW Championship, but Regal was unable to capture the title.^[23]^[24]

Jackson at the 2010 Tribute to the Troops show

On the November 24 episode of ECW, Jackson attacked both Regal and Kozlov after Kozlov accused Jackson of costing Regal a match.^[25] The following week, Jackson once again betrayed Kozlov and Regal by walking out on Kozlov during a tag team match against Christian and Shelton Benjamin.^[26] Jackson, however, realigned himself with Regal, when he was aided by Regal in defeating Kozlov on an episode of ECW. On the January 12, 2010 episode of ECW, Jackson won the ECW Homecoming battle royal to earn a match for the ECW Championship.^[27] He faced Christian for the ECW championship at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view but was unsuccessful.^[28] On the final episode of ECW on February 16, Jackson defeated Christian to win the ECW Championship in an Extreme Rules match.^[5]^[29] Upon winning the title, WWE credits Jackson as the final ECW Champion.^[5]

The Corre and Intercontinental Champion (2010–2011)

On the February 19 episode of SmackDown, a video package aired, promoting Jackson's return to the brand.^[30]^[31] He made his return on the March 5 episode of SmackDown without Regal, who instead joined Raw, and defeated Jimmy Wang Yang.^[32] On April 10, 2010 at a house show in Glasgow, Scotland, Jackson suffered a tear in his right quadriceps muscle during a match against Kane, and was expected to be inactive for approximately six months.^[33] During his injury, Jackson was drafted to the Raw brand as part of the 2010 WWE Supplemental Draft.^[34]

Jackson made his return to the ring on September 13, 2010, defeating Zack Ryder in a dark match prior to the Raw tapings.^[35] He returned to television on the October 18 episode of Raw, where he was revealed as a member of Team Raw for the Bragging Rights pay-per-view.^[36] At Bragging Rights, Jackson was one of the final two remaining members of Team Raw, but they lost to Team SmackDown.^[37] On the November 22 episode of Raw, Jackson qualified for the 2010 edition of the King of the Ring tournament by defeating Alex Riley, who replaced Jackson's original opponent The Miz.^[38] He faced Drew McIntyre in the quarter-finals, but the match ended in a double countout, so neither advanced.^[39]

In December 2010, Jackson was traded back to the SmackDown brand.^[3]^[40] On the January 11, 2011, taping of the January 14 edition of SmackDown, Jackson joined Wade Barrett, Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater in assaulting The Big Show, appearing to form an alliance with the three.^[41]^[42] The following week the group was named The Corre.^[43] On the May 6 episode of SmackDown, Jackson defeated Big Show in a singles match, but refused to celebrate with the other members of The Corre afterward. Backstage, the other members of The Corre attacked him in retaliation, turning Jackson face.^[44] Jackson went on to face Barrett for the Intercontinental Championship at Over the Limit, and won by disqualification, which meant that Barrett retained the championship.^[45] Jackson continued to feud with the other members of The Corre, winning against Barrett by disqualification and countout respectively.^[46]^[47]

Jackson performing a backbreaker rack on Drew McIntyre

On June 19, at the Capitol Punishment pay-per-view, Jackson defeated Barrett to win the Intercontinental Championship for the first time.^[6] Jackson successfully retained the championship in a rematch against Barrett on the following episode of SmackDown and also successfully defended it against Ted DiBiase on the July 15 episode.^[48]^[49] On August 12 episode of SmackDown, Jackson lost the Intercontinental Championship to Cody Rhodes, ending his Intercontinental Championship reign at 51 days.^[50] He went on to feud with both Rhodes and DiBiase. On the August 19 episode of SmackDown, he lost a rematch for the championship to Rhodes.^[51] Jackson was part of a ten-man battle royal for the Intercontinental Championship, but was eliminated by Rhodes.^[52]

Final feuds and departure (2012–2014)

On January 29, 2012 at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view, Jackson entered the Royal Rumble match as the thirteenth entrant, but he was eliminated by the returning Great Khali.^[53] Jackson started a losing streak losing to the likes of Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, and David Otunga. Jackson finally ended his losing streak by teaming with The Great Khali to defeat the team of Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks on the May 16 episode of NXT.

Around mid–2012, Jackson suffered an upper body injury and was inactive for many months. After almost a year of inactivity due to his injury, Jackson returned at a live event for WrestleMania Axxess on April 4, 2013 by teaming up with Yoshi Tatsu to defeat the team of Hunico and Camacho.^[54] On January 4, 2014, Jackson announced he was undergoing another surgery.^[55] As a result of this, on April 6, 2014, Jackson reported that he had officially parted ways with the WWE.^[56]^[57]

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (2014)

He made his debut, along with Gene Snitsky, in TNA on the June 25 taping of Impact Wrestling (which aired on July 24) using the ringname Rycklon as a heel; attacking Tommy Dreamer, Bully Ray and Devon, and aligning himself with Dixie Carter. It also marked the very first time that the final champion of the original and the new ECW were in the ring at the exact same time (Rhino and Rycklon)^[58]^[59]^[60] Rycklon and Snitsky were fired by Dixie Carter on the August 7 edition of Impact Wrestling. Earlier on the show they had competed in an Eight-Man Hardcore War between Team EC3 (EC3, Rhino, Rycklon and Snitsky) in a losing effort against Team Bully (Bully Ray, Devon, Tommy Dreamer and Al Snow).^[61]^[62]

Lucha Underground (2014–2015)

Jackson with Brian Kendrick in 2009

In September 2014, Stephens worked at Lucha Underground under the ring name Big Ryck, where he was forming a heel trio named The Crenshaw Crew with Cisco, Bael and Cortez Castro.^[2]^[63] Ryck feuded with Johnny Mundo and Prince Puma. Their feud concluded in a three-way ladder match, which was won by Mundo. On the October 5, 2014 taping, Ryck participated in an Aztec Warfare Battle Royal to crown the first Lucha Underground Champion but was eliminated. On January 21, 2015, Cisco, Castro and Bael attacked Ryck and burned his eye with a cigar, turning face in the process. Ryck returned to action on February 25, 2015, distracting The Crew in a match against Sexy Star, Mascarita Sagrada, and Pimpinela Escarlata. On March 4, 2015, Ryck defeated Star to earn a match against The Crew. Ryck defeated The Crew in a one-on-three handicap match. On February 8, 2015, Ryck, along with Killshot and The Mack participated in a tournament for the Lucha Underground Trios Championship, but they were defeated in the finals by the eventual winners Angélico, Son of Havoc and Ivelisse.^[64] After their loss, Ryck left Mack and Killshot and was hired by DelAvar Daivari, attacking Texano on May 20, 2015, turning heel in the process. At Ultima Lucha, Daivari ran out and distracted Ryck by firing him, hinting at a face turn. However, nothing came of this due to Stephens departing Lucha Underground in 2015 due to traveling conflicts.^{[citation needed]} It was revealed that Big Ryck was one of five missing people on the April 20 episode of Lucha Underground. In the four issue mini series following that, it explaining what had happened after Ultima Lucha and before season two. It was revealed that Ryck was "killed" by The Disciples of Death, officially writing his character off the show.

International promotions and retirement (2015)

On October 17, 2015, Stephens, as Big Ryck, made his debut for the German Westside Xtreme Wrestling (wXw) promotion, in what was also his last match. He unsuccessfully challenged Karsten Beck for the wXw Unified World Wrestling Championship.^[65] Stephens retired from professional wrestling on October 18, 2015, and is now working as a trainer as of 2016.^[4]^[66]^[67]

Personal life

Stephens has been married to his wife Jenn Stephens since 2004. They have no children.^[68] Stephens is a Christian.^[69]

Championships and accomplishments

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
- PWI ranked him No. 78 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2011^[70]
World Wrestling Entertainment/WWE

2/22/197:33 PM

Former Member

Rass DG, yuh putting snowey rowey and cribby to shame with your knowledge of black history. Dem too chaps so obsessed with PPP and Jagdeo that they forget their black history.

2/22/197:38 PM

Former Member

Not one single GNI Black poster chose to recognize or celebrate Black history month.

2/22/199:47 PM

Former Member

These GNI Blacks busy cussing Indians so they forgot their kith and kins!

2/22/1910:07 PM

Former Member

DG is the only Guyanese/Canadian should be credited for remembering and eloquently describing the work and contribution of Blacks in the month of February that is dedicated to them.

Yuji, you need to shut up on this topic. You are bringing shame on the people you belittle every day that had done more than you can ever imagine.

Baseman, cuss nah bore holes. Always think higher. Lol

2/22/1910:58 PM

Former Member

Queen Charlotte Sophia

Consort of George III and Queen Victoria's grandmother

Source -- http://100greatblackbritons.co...queen_charlotte.html

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black branch of the Portuguese Royal House. The riddle of Queen Charlotte's African ancestry was solved as a result of an earlier investigation into the black magi featured in 15th century Flemish paintings. Two art historians had suggested that the black magiC must have been portraits of actual contemporary people (since the artist, without seeing them, would not have been aware of the subtleties in colouring and facial bone structure of quadroons or octoroons which these figures invariably represented) Enough evidence was accumulated to propose that the models for the black magi were, in all probability, members of the Portuguese de Sousa family.

Six different lines can be traced from English Queen Charlotte back to Margarita de Castro y Sousa, in a gene pool which because of royal inbreeding was already minuscule, thus explaining the Queen's unmistakable African appearance.

The Negroid characteristics of the Queen's portraits certainly had political significance since artists of that period were expected to play down, soften or even obliterate "undesirable" features in a subject's face. Sir Allan Ramsay was the artist responsible for the majority of the paintings of the Queen and his representations of her were the most decidedly African of all her portraits. Ramsey was an anti-slavery intellectual of his day. He also married the niece of Lord Mansfield, the English judge whose 1772 decision was the first in a series of rulings that finally ended slavery in the British Empire. It should be noted too that by the time Sir Ramsay was commissioned to do his first portrait of the Queen, he was already, by marriage, uncle to Dido Elizabeth Lindsay.

Thus, from just a cursory look at the social awareness and political activism at that level of English society, it would be surprising if the Queen's Negroid physiognomy was of no significance to the Abolitionist movement.

Perhaps the most literary of these allusions to her African appearance, however, can be found in the poem penned to her on the occasion of her wedding to George III and the Coronation celebration that immediately followed.

Descended from the warlike Vandal race, she still preserves that title in her face. Tho' shone their triumphs o'er Numidia's plain, And Alusian fields their name retain; they but subdued the southern world with arms, She conquers still with her triumphant charms, O! born for rule, - to whose victorious brow The greatest monarch of the north must bow!

2/23/193:38 PM

Former Member

yuji22 posted:
Not one single GNI Black poster chose to recognize or celebrate Black history month.

The notion that we are going to celebrate black history on an anti black forum is hilarious.

Plus how many blacks post in this nest of anti black racist vipers anyway!

DG is only doing this because the PPP told him to make nice to blacks. He was asked to explain why 95% of black Guyanese consider the PPP to be anti black and he is unable to discuss this.

If he wants to show respect to black people who should discuss the PPP and why blacks hate them.

2/24/192:32 AM

Former Member

Baseman posted:
These GNI Blacks busy cussing Indians so they forgot their kith and kins!

Its always amazing why the Indo Nazis think that they know the full extent of our lives or think that we see this forum as anything else other than one populated by people who hate blacks.

We tell our narratives about black excellence in other places. Its wasted here. DG is told to peddle the myth that the PPP appreciates blacks, when a mere 3 years ago they mounted a hugely anti black campaign as they were terrified of losing their Indian and Amerindian base.

Yes we heard about Jagdeo telling Amerindians that if the Coalition wins all straight haired people will be raped and killed. This being an extension of the usual bottom house PPP squeals about black violence, openly indicated in a Chronicle editorial that the PPP itself never apologized for and wishes that people forget.

Oh yes we remember when Ramkarran told us that Jagdeo was in Queens, after the election loss, defining PPP supporters as rural Indians, and threatening to take Guyana back for them. DG refuses to address this issue.

DG go dialogue with your former PPP colleague, Ramkarran, who recently stated that Africans in Guyana have as much right to fear the PPP as do Indians to fear the PNC. This was once a major leader within the PPP so clearly knows the inside story on that.

I am not sure who DG is trying to impress here but its not Afro Guyanese, whose presence here is minimal!

2/24/192:40 AM

Former Member

Drugb posted:
Rass DG, yuh putting snowey rowey and cribby to shame with your knowledge of black history. Dem too chaps so obsessed with PPP and Jagdeo that they forget their black history.

We blacks here are very knowledgeable about our history and also that to present it to a man like you who values black men only as a way to satisfy your orifices, bit otherwise detests us, is a waste of our time.

2/24/192:43 AM

Former Member

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
Rass DG, yuh putting snowey rowey and cribby to shame with your knowledge of black history. Dem too chaps so obsessed with PPP and Jagdeo that they forget their black history.
We blacks here are very knowledgeable about our history and also that to present it to a man like you who values black men only as a way to satisfy your orifices, bit otherwise detests us, is a waste of our time.

Don't lie, dg school yall rass. Even in Guyana yall tek up de white man culture and forget about Africa. Is only de kakabah try to bring back African pride by introducing de dashaki.

2/24/191:21 PM

Former Member

caribny posted:
Baseman posted:
These GNI Blacks busy cussing Indians so they forgot their kith and kins!
DG is told to peddle the myth that the PPP appreciates blacks, when a mere 3 years ago they mounted a hugely anti black campaign as they were terrified of losing their Indian and Amerindian base.

Reflects your focused LIES, LIES and blatant LIES on the "land" of GNI.

2/24/191:44 PM

Former Member

Drugb posted:
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Don't lie, dg school yall rass.

I schooled you on the fact that Africans were the first people in Guyana to grow rice and they had done so in Africa for THOUSANDS of years.

What the hell does DG have to teach me about blacks when just the other days he was ranting that Canada is a paradise and never had a history of racism. He was told about the fact that racial segregation existed in the Maritime provinces long after it ended in states like NY. The man argued vociferously in his usual one liner that this wasn't true. He was told that Canada had a "whites only" immigration policy and also denied this.

So what did he have to teach me about black people? NOTHING. I couldn't care less about what some weight lifter did.

2/24/193:40 PM

Former Member

Demerara_Guy posted:
caribny posted:
Baseman posted:
These GNI Blacks busy cussing Indians so they forgot their kith and kins!
DG is told to peddle the myth that the PPP appreciates blacks, when a mere 3 years ago they mounted a hugely anti black campaign as they were terrified of losing their Indian and Amerindian base.
Reflects your focused LIES, LIES and blatant LIES on the "land" of GNI.

And yet DG refuses to discuss why the PPP is hated by over 95% of the black population.

I suggest that you go and research this for your Black History Month project in the few days that you have left.

2/24/193:42 PM

Former Member

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
Don't lie, dg school yall rass.
I schooled you on the fact that Africans were the first people in Guyana to grow rice and they had done so in Africa for THOUSANDS of years.
What the hell does DG have to teach me about blacks when just the other days he was ranting that Canada is a paradise and never had a history of racism. He was told about the fact that racial segregation existed in the Maritime provinces long after it ended in states like NY. The man argued vociferously in his usual one liner that this wasn't true. He was told that Canada had a "whites only" immigration policy and also denied this.
So what did he have to teach me about black people? NOTHING. I couldn't care less about what some weight lifter did.

Yest again, Caribny with his LIES, LIES and more LIES.

My statement on this topic, lately and as always ...

"Racial issues existed in the past, currently exists and will always exist in the future."

My statement was/is that ... "racial issues exist in every part of the world and one may experience it at some times."

And again, Canada does not have a "whites only" immigration policy.

2/24/193:55 PM

Former Member

Demerara_Guy posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
Don't lie, dg school yall rass.
I schooled you on the fact that Africans were the first people in Guyana to grow rice and they had done so in Africa for THOUSANDS of years.
What the hell does DG have to teach me about blacks when just the other days he was ranting that Canada is a paradise and never had a history of racism. He was told about the fact that racial segregation existed in the Maritime provinces long after it ended in states like NY. The man argued vociferously in his usual one liner that this wasn't true. He was told that Canada had a "whites only" immigration policy and also denied this.
So what did he have to teach me about black people? NOTHING. I couldn't care less about what some weight lifter did.
Yest again, Caribny with his LIES, LIES and more LIES.
My statement on this topic, lately and as always ...
"Racial issues existed in the past, currently exists and will always exist in the future."
My statement was/is that ... "racial issues exist in every part of the world and one may experience it at some times."
And again, Canada does not have a "whites only" immigration policy.

DG I am more interested in you explaining why the PPP is so hated by blacks. Why are you avoiding that topic?

And you denied that Canada, prior to 1962 had a whites only immigration policy and you boasted that it never engaged in racial segregation.

Any way, ask your God, Lord Jagdeo for permission to explain why blacks hate the PPP as indicated by their voting patterns.

2/24/194:29 PM

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Linton Kwesi Johnson

Poet and activist

Ref -- http://100greatblackbritons.co...n_kwesi_johnson.html

Linton Kwesi Johnson is known and revered as the world's first dub poet. Born in Chapelton, a small town in the parish of Clarendon, Jamaica, he came to England in 1963, went to Tulse Hill Secondary School, and studied sociology at Goldsmiths' College, University of London.

Whilst still at school, he joined the Black Panthers, helped to organise a poetry workshop within the organisation and developed his work with Rasta Love, a group of poets and drummers. In 1977 he was awarded a C Day Lewis Fellowship, becoming the writer-in-residence for the London Borough of Lambeth for that year. He went on to work as the Library Resources and Education Officer at the Keskidee Centre, the first home for black theatre and art.

Johnson's poems first appeared in the journal Race Today. In 1974 Race Today published his first collection of poetry, Voices of the Living and the Dead. Dread Beat an' Blood, his second collection, was published in 1975 by Bogle-L'Ouverture and was also the title of his first LP, released by Virgin in 1978. That year also saw the release of the film Dread Beat an' Blood, a documentary on Johnson's work. In 1980 Race Today published his third book, Inglan is a Bitch and there were four more albums on the Island label: Forces of Victory (1979) Bass Culture (1980), LKJ in Dub (1981) and Making History (1983). His most recent album is LKJ a Capella Live, a collection of 14 poems including some unpublished works.

Linton Kwesi Johnson has been made an Associate Fellow of Warwick University, an Honorary Fellow of Wolverhampton Polytechnic and received an award at the 13th Premo Internazionale Ultimo Novecento from the city of Pisa for his contribution to poetry and popular music. He has toured the world from Japan to South Africa, Europe to Brazil, and is the only living poet to be published by Penguin Classics.

2/24/195:29 PM

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Walter Rodney

Source -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Rodney

Walter Rodney

Walter Anthony Rodney (23 March 1942 – 13 June 1980) was a prominent Guyanese historian, political activist and academic. He was assassinated in 1980.

Career

Born into a working-class family in Georgetown in the then British Guiana (now Guyana), Walter Rodney was a bright student, attending Queen's College, where he became a champion debater and athlete, and then attending university on a scholarship at the University College of the West Indies (UCWI) in Jamaica, graduating in 1963 with a first-class degree in History, thereby winning the Faculty of Arts prize.

Rodney earned a PhD in African History in 1966 at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, England, at the age of 24. His dissertation, which focused on the slave trade on the Upper Guinea Coast, was published by the Oxford University Press in 1970 under the title A History of the Upper Guinea Coast 1545-1800 and was widely acclaimed for its originality in challenging the conventional wisdom on the topic.

Rodney traveled widely and became very well known internationally as an activist, scholar and formidable orator. He taught at the University of Dar es Salaam in Tanzania during the periods 1966-67 and 1969-1974 and in 1968 at his alma mater University of the West Indies in Mona. He was sharply critical of the middle class for its role in the post-independence Caribbean. He was also a strong critic of capitalism and argued for a socialist development template.^{[citation needed]}

On 15 October 1968 the government of Jamaica, led by prime minister Hugh Shearer, declared Rodney persona non grata. The decision to ban him from ever returning to Jamaica and his subsequent dismissal by the University of the West Indies, Mona caused protests by students and the poor of West Kingston which escalated into a riot, known as the Rodney Riots, resulting in six deaths and causing millions of dollars in damages.^[1] The riots which started on 16 October 1968 triggered an increase in political awareness across the Caribbean, especially among the Afrocentric Rastafarian sector of Jamaica, documented in Rodney's book The Groundings with my Brothers published by Bogle-L'Ouverture Publications in 1969.

In 1969, Rodney returned to the University of Dar es Salaam, where he served as a Professor of History until 1974.^[1]

Rodney became a prominent Pan-Africanist, and was important in the Black Power movement in the Caribbean and North America. While living in Dar es Salaam he was influential in developing a new centre of African learning and discussion.

Later life

In 1974 Rodney returned to Guyana from Tanzania. He was due to take up a position as a professor at the University of Guyana but the Guyanese government prevented his appointment. Increasingly active in politics, he founded the Working People's Alliance, a party that provided the most effective and credible opposition to the PNC government. In 1979 he was arrested and charged with arson after two government offices were burned.

Assassination

On 13 June 1980, Rodney was killed in Georgetown, at the age of thirty-eight, by a bomb in his car, a month after returning from celebrations during the independence in Zimbabwe in a time of intense political activism. He was survived by his wife, Patricia, and three children. His brother, Donald Rodney, who was injured in the explosion, said that a sergeant in the Guyana Defence Force, named Gregory Smith, had given Walter the bomb that killed him. After the killing Smith fled to French Guiana, where he died in 2002.

It is widely believed, but not proven, that the assassination was set up by Guyana'a then-president, Linden Forbes Burnham.^[2]^[3] Rodney believed that the various ethnic groups that had been historically disenfranchised by the ruling colonial class should work together, which was in conflict with Burnham.^[4]

In early 2015, a Commission of Inquiry (COI) was held during which a new witness, Holland Gregory Yearwood, came forward claiming to be a long-standing friend of Rodney and a former member of the WPA. Yearwood testified that Rodney presented detonators to him weeks prior to the explosion asking for assistance in assembling a bomb.^[5]

Academic influence

Rodney's most influential book was How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, published in 1972. In it he described how Africa had been exploited by European imperialists, leading directly to the modern underdevelopment of most of the continent. The book became enormously influential as well as controversial: it was groundbreaking in that it was among the first to bring a new perspective to the question of underdevelopment in Africa. Rodney's analysis went far beyond the previously accepted approach in the study of Third World underdevelopment.

"Instead of being interested primarily in the inter-relations of African trade and politics, as many of us were at that time, Walter Rodney focused his attention on the agricultural basis of African communities, on the productive forces within them and on the processes of social differentiation. As a result, his research raised a whole set of fresh questions concerning the nature of African social institutions on the Upper Guinea coast in the sixteenth century and of the impact of the Atlantic slave trade. In doing so, he helped to open up a new dimension. Almost immediately he stimulated much further writing and research on West Africa, and he initiated a debate, which still continues and now extends across the whole range of African history.

When teaching at the Universities of Dar es Salaam and the West Indies, he launched and sustained a large number of discussion groups which swept up and embraced many who had had little or no formal education. As a writer, he reached out to contact thousands in The Groundings with my Brothers (1969) and in his influential How Europe Underdeveloped Africa (1972)." — Remarks by Professor John Richard Gray, History Today, Vol. 49, Issue 9, 1980.

"When we think of Walter Rodney as a Revolutionary Scholar we are talking about two things, Radical Scholar and his revolutionary contribution to the study of History ie. History of Africa. Walter Rodney was a pioneering scholar who provided new answers to old questions and posed new questions in relation to the study of Africa." — Remarks by Professor Winston McGowan at the Walter Rodney Commemorative Symposium held at York College, USA, in June 2010.

"Walter Rodney was no captive intellectual playing to the gallery of local or international radicalism. He was clearly one of the most solidly ideologically situated intellectuals ever to look colonialism and its contemporary heir black opportunism and exploitation in the eye" — Remarks by Wole Soyinka, Oduduwa Hall, University of Ife, Nigeria, Friday, 27 June 1980.

Rodney's community-grounded approach to mass education during the 1960s and his detailed descriptions of his pedagogical approach in Groundings (1969) document his role as an important critical pedagogue and contemporary of Paulo Freire.^[6]

Bibliography

The Groundings with my Brothers (London: Bogle L'Ouverture Publications, 1969)
West Africa and the Atlantic Slave-Trade. (1970)
A History of the Upper Guinea Coast 1545-1800 (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1970)
How Europe Underdeveloped Africa (1972)
World War II and the Tanzanian Economy (1976)
Guyanese Sugar Plantations in the Late Nineteenth Century: a Contemporary Description from the "Argosy" (Georgetown, Guyana: Release Publications, 1979)
Marx in the Liberation of Africa (1981)
A History of the Guyanese Working People, 1881-1905 (Baltimore, MD: The Johns Hopkins University Press, 1981)
Walter Rodney Speaks: the Making of an African Intellectual (Trenton, NJ: Africa World Press, 1990)
Kofi Baadu Out of Africa (Georgetown, Guyana) - children's book
Lakshmi Out of India (Georgetown, Guyana: The Guyana Book Foundation, 2000) - children's book
The Russian Revolution: A View from the Third World (New York: Verso Books, 2018)

Legacy

Rodney's death was commemorated in a poem by Martin Carter entitled "For Walter Rodney," by the dub poet Linton Kwesi Johnson in "Reggae fi Radni," and by Kamau Brathwaite in his poem "Poem for Walter Rodney" (Elegguas, 2010).

In 1977, the African Studies Centre, Boston University, inaugurated the Walter Rodney Lecture Series.

In 1982, the American Historical Association posthumously awarded Walter Rodney the Albert J. Beveridge Award for A History of the Guyanese Working People, 1881-1905.

In 1984, the Centre for Caribbean Studies of the University of Warwick established the Walter Rodney Memorial Lecture in recognition of the life and work of one of the most outstanding scholar-activists of the Black Diaspora in the post-World War II era.

In 1993, the Guyanese government posthumously awarded Walter Rodney Guyana's highest honour, the Order of Excellence of Guyana. The Guyanese government also established the Walter Rodney Chair in History at the University of Guyana.

In 1998, the Institute of Caribbean Studies, University of the West Indies, inaugurated the Walter Rodney Lecture Series.

In 2004, Rodney's widow Patricia and his children donated his papers to the Robert L. Woodruff Library of the Atlanta University Center. Since 2004, an annual Walter Rodney Symposium has been held each 23 March (Rodney's birthday) at the Center under the sponsorship of the Library and the Political Science Department of Clark Atlanta University, and under the patronage of the Rodney family.

In 2005, the London Borough of Southwark erected a plaque in the Peckham Library Square in commemoration of Dr. Walter Rodney, the political activist, historian and global freedom fighter.

In 2006, an International Conference on Walter Rodney was held at the Institute of Development Studies of the University of Dar es Salaam.

In 2006, the Walter Rodney Essay Competition was established at the Department of Afroamerican and African Studies at the University of Michigan.

In 2010, the Walter Rodney Commemorative Symposium was held at York College.

The Department of African American Studies at Syracuse University established the Angela Davis/Walter Rodney Award of Academic Achievement.

The Department of Afroamerican and African Studies (DAAS) at the University of Michigan established the DuBois-Mandela-Rodney Post-doctoral Fellowship Program.

In 2012, the Walter Rodney Conference celebrating the 40th anniversary of the publication of How Europe Underdeveloped Africa was held at Binghamton University.

Rodney is the subject of the 2010 documentary film by Clairmont Chung, W.A.R. Stories: Walter Anthony Rodney.^[7]

The Walter Rodney Close in the London Borough of Newham has been named in honor of Rodney.

Walter Rodney is listed on the Black Achievers Wall in the International Slavery Museum, Liverpool, UK.

2/24/195:39 PM

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OK, I guess DG went to Jagdeo to ask if he can discuss why blacks hate the PPP.

Jagdeo did the usual. He slapped him and cussed him out and ask him who gives him the right to even ask such a "silly" question when he should know full well that the PPP is a "coolie people party" which only wants to fool Amerindians and a few blacks as they can no longer win just based on the Indian base.

2/24/197:39 PM

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caribny posted:
OK, I guess DG went to Jagdeo to ask if he can discuss why blacks hate the PPP.
Jagdeo did the usual. He slapped him and cussed him out and ask him who gives him the right to even ask such a "silly" question when he should know full well that the PPP is a "coolie people party" which only wants to fool Amerindians and a few blacks as they can no longer win just based on the Indian base.

Show some respect for DG and Jaggy. You posted nothing meaningful to celebrate black history month. Only dg did, give credit to the man. You and your cohort know noting about black history which is why an Indo has to celebrate this auspicious month on your behalf. Meanwhile you refuse to acknowledge that Guyanese blacks abandoned their culture and conformed to the white mans religion and culture. The Indos who held on to culture are ridiculed for doing so by you and your turncoats.

2/24/197:47 PM

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caribny posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Yest again, Caribny with his LIES, LIES and more LIES.
My statement on this topic, lately and as always ...
"Racial issues existed in the past, currently exists and will always exist in the future."
My statement was/is that ... "racial issues exist in every part of the world and one may experience it at some times."
And again, Canada does not have a "whites only" immigration policy.
DG I am more interested in you explaining why the PPP is so hated by blacks. Why are you avoiding that topic?
caribny posted:
OK, I guess DG went to Jagdeo to ask if he can discuss why blacks hate the PPP.

You can progress with your cockamamie expressions and rantings.

2/24/198:52 PM

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caribny posted:

...… why the PPP is hated by over 95% of the black population.

Most blacks hate the PPP because the PPP is dominated by Indian supporters. Blacks don't support non-black leaders. Case in point is while blacks voted in large numbers for the AFC in 2006 when the presidential candidate was Trotman, their support for the AFC fell off significantly in 2011 when Ramjattan was the presidential candidate. Their hatred for the PPP is nothing other than racially generated.

2/24/199:46 PM

Former Member

ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

...… why the PPP is hated by over 95% of the black population.

Most blacks hate the PPP because the PPP is dominated by Indian supporters. Blacks don't support non-black leaders. Case in point is while blacks voted in large numbers for the AFC in 2006 when the presidential candidate was Trotman, their support for the AFC fell off significantly in 2011 when Ramjattan was the presidential candidate. Their hatred for the PPP is nothing other than racially generated.

Caribj is being rhetorical. He represents the reasoning why Blacks despise Indians!

2/24/1910:14 PM

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Baseman posted:
ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

...… why the PPP is hated by over 95% of the black population.
Most blacks hate the PPP because the PPP is dominated by Indian supporters. Blacks don't support non-black leaders. Case in point is while blacks voted in large numbers for the AFC in 2006 when the presidential candidate was Trotman, their support for the AFC fell off significantly in 2011 when Ramjattan was the presidential candidate. Their hatred for the PPP is nothing other than racially generated.
Caribj is being rhetorical. He represents the reasoning why Blacks despise Indians!

On several occasions I conceded to him that while Indians may be mistaken in thinking that the PPP is a productive party, at least they have a reasonable explanation for why they vote for the PPP instead of it being just because the PPP is an Indian dominated party. I asked him why blacks vote for the PNC. He avoided that question many times until he finally gave a flimsy answer. He said something to the effect that blacks vote for the PNC because they don't trust the PPP. Imagine having 95% of the black voting population voting for the PNC without being able to point to even one thing that the PNC does to get their vote.

2/24/1910:22 PM

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Drugb posted:

Show some respect for DG and Jaggy. You posted nothing meaningful to celebrate black history month.

Druggie, lover of black vegetables stuffed into your two orifices on what basis do you have to suggest that we dont know our history.

Now I know that you are illiterate and dont read but there are many books on the assorted histories of blacks. You should start with a book written by Walter Rodney on "How Europe Undeveloped Africa". There is another titled " Themes in African Guyanese History" written by several, David Granger being among them.

If you see my home I have scores of books on assorted aspects of the history of blacks. Now I put them on Kindle.

And here is DG posting articles on black individuals and I bet not even reading them. What DG ought to be doing and just confirmed that he is afraid to do is to discuss Afro Guyanese attitudes to the PPP and why these exist.

2/25/1912:09 AM

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ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

...… why the PPP is hated by over 95% of the black population.

Most blacks hate the PPP because the PPP is dominated by Indian supporters. Blacks don't support non-black leaders. Case in point is while blacks voted in large numbers for the AFC in 2006 when the presidential candidate was Trotman, their support for the AFC fell off significantly in 2011 when Ramjattan was the presidential candidate. Their hatred for the PPP is nothing other than racially generated.

If you knew Guyanese history, which I know you do not, you would have learned that the first party that most Afro Guyanese voted for was not the UDP headed by John Carter, but it was the PPP headed by Cheddi Jagan.

I look forward eagerly for you to tell me when substantial majorities of Indians voted for a party led by a non Indian. At least blacks voted for an Indo led party once. Indians have NEVER voted in large numbers for a party unless it was Indo led.

Blacks could have voted for the UDP which was run by middle class blacks and coloreds, but instead they voted for the PPP in 1953.

Your attempt to paint blacks as racist and Indians as innocent on this is quite silly and you will be hard pressed to prove your case.

2/25/1912:14 AM

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Demerara_Guy posted:

caribny posted:
OK, I guess DG went to Jagdeo to ask if he can discuss why blacks hate the PPP.
You can progress with your cockamamie expressions and rantings.

Now it would have been easier to prove me wrong by citing Ralph Ramkarran's recent comments on why Africans and Indians manifest ethnically based political behavior, but Jagdeo would hang you if you cited him.

So you are left with that asinine comment.

DG why do most blacks hate the PPP, even when this was the first party that most supported in the 1953 election which was the first one under universal adult suffrage. And passing up a middle class black and colored party when they did so.

But yet now they see the PPP as racist as Donald Trump is perceived to be.

You can cut and paste as you wish but this thread will be remembered by the fact that you are afraid to discuss Afro Guyanese attitudes to the PPP.

2/25/1912:21 AM

Former Member

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

...… why the PPP is hated by over 95% of the black population.

Most blacks hate the PPP because the PPP is dominated by Indian supporters. Blacks don't support non-black leaders. Case in point is while blacks voted in large numbers for the AFC in 2006 when the presidential candidate was Trotman, their support for the AFC fell off significantly in 2011 when Ramjattan was the presidential candidate. Their hatred for the PPP is nothing other than racially generated.
If you knew Guyanese history, which I know you do not, you would have learned that the first party that most Afro Guyanese voted for was not the UDP headed by John Carter, but it was the PPP headed by Cheddi Jagan.
I look forward eagerly for you to tell me when substantial majorities of Indians voted for a party led by a non Indian. At least blacks voted for an Indo led party once. Indians have NEVER voted in large numbers for a party unless it was Indo led.
Blacks could have voted for the UDP which was run by middle class blacks and coloreds, but instead they voted for the PPP in 1953.
Your attempt to paint blacks as racist and Indians as innocent on this is quite silly and you will be hard pressed to prove your case.

It must have taken a lot of desperation for you to go digging up 1953, a time when both Burnham and Jagan were part of the PPP. I pointed to the AFC of 2006 and 2011. Why have you avoided addressing that so many times the past year? I am not obsessed with racial issues as you are. I never needed to use race as a crutch or excuse.

2/25/199:54 AM

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ksazma posted:

It must have taken a lot of desperation for you to go digging up 1953, a time when both Burnham and Jagan were part of the PPP. I pointed to the AFC of 2006 and 2011. Why have you avoided addressing that so many times the past year? I am not obsessed with racial issues as you are. I never needed to use race as a crutch or excuse.

The vast majority of Indians NEVER supported the AFC. And in the year that some of them did it was for Nagamootoo NOT Trotman.

So I repeat when have the majority of Indians ever voted for a party not led by an Indian?

At least in 1953 the majority of blacks passed by a black led party, voting for one led by an Indian.

I say this to say that your attempt to paint blacks as racist in their voting and Indians as not also racist is ridiculous, disingenuous, and shows what a foolish person you are!

2/25/1911:30 AM

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And of course DG is too terrified to discuss why blacks despise the PPP.

2/25/1911:31 AM

Former Member

caribny posted:
And of course DG is too terrified to discuss why blacks despise the PPP.

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