What about the PPP thieves that tried to steal these elections? There is strong statistical evidence of this. The declared results that will be confirmed by the recount will expose their scheme further.
Patience all, we need to let the process work. Both govt and opposition are certain about victory. Democracy is at stake here for our beloved nation. There is no evidence so far that the elections are rigged, there has not been an official declaration by gecom.
This shit is so fricken pathetic, my three year old grandkids would have done that counting by now.
Bai kp, now that Mits has become a cross dresser it is not that clear who is actually posting. I try to assess the tone to try to detect the masculine or feminine Mits but given that he is an expert cross dresser it is not easy.
Attachments
Distrust by both parties have caused this situation. We need to let the process work and accept the final decision. Clearly there was something asunder when Mingo departed from the procedure for counting all the other regions. This will be a win win for all if we allow the law to work its course. Even better yet if this elections can be resolved peacefully and give the people confidence that the democratic process has worked. Remember Guyana is a fragile democracy, no one political party should derail the path we took to get to this point in our development.
The problem Cain is that it has nothing to do with arithmetic. Everyone should know that when there is a group of 33 persons and another group of 32, the group of 33 is the majority. Similarly if the votes are tabulated whether using a spreadsheet, abacus, fingers or toes, the party with the most votes still is the majority. What you have here as in the case of the 33/32 silly argument by the Coalition is the Coalition refusal to accept their consequence.
@Totaram @Django, it mystifying the belief the two of you have that some miracle awaits the PNC. Their sponsors now balking, all my relatives in Guyana, even the few who supported them want them gone, a award recipients is handing back her award, and Ayuh two still on the same track. Do you realize you have both become the GNI comedy show with cheerleader @Rochellee on stilts!
@Former MemberThe "miracle" has already happened. Just a few weeks ago the PPP was boasting about getting a massive majority, stupidly basing their estimation on the NCV and LGE. GECOM numbers show a Coalition victory.
@Totaram, well itβs good to see you found something positive in the defeat. Now just get Django on board. And pack up the tent and move on.
PPP 34 seats
APNU 30 seats.
Joinder parties 1 seat.
Given this stunt, they ainβt seeing power again for a long long time. They violated the trust.
PPP needs to purge all conspirators of this coup when they take office. Offer an olive branch to those who did not participate!
Official results were NOT issued personally by the Chairman of GECOM.
Results were presented simply through news media where the ones for Region 4 were delayed, tabulated in an obscure manner which was contrary to the other nine regions and then hurriedly made available.
It is strange that someone can be as delusional as Totaram. Imagine she is hatching her wagon on those fictitious numbers from Mingo which he too is ashamed to display. Mingo is ashamed of those numbers but Totaram has no choice but to cling to them. A drowning man clutches at straws.
@Former MemberAre you stupid? The Coalition won. Where did you see anything about defeat? Bibi Haniffa who is a nasty little bit.h is publishing results she made up.
@Former MemberYou are the one who is delusional. Imagine taking results provided by a contesting party as official while rejecting the official results. Where in the world is this done?
Numbers for each of the 10 regions publish by the PPPC reflect the SOPs issues at the polling stations after the polls were closed.
Results to be published by GECOM office MUST match the SOPs.
@Former MemberYou can't take PPP SOPs over those of GECOM. Would you take results supplied by the Liberal Party over those of Elections Canada?
Well, the body that is responsible for the official results is scared shit to display their source so it is reasonable to conclude that their 'results' are highly suspect. That is the conclusion of everyone except the Coalition and their misguided hacks.
GECOM isn't even comfortable with the result they declared. The proof is that the person with the authority to declare those results quickly whisk out of the 'facility' so that he doesn't have to own that declaration. But you are free to be misguided. Afterall it is your right to be so.
Tota- then what is the purpose of completing, signing and publishing SOPs? Why issue them?
@Totaram this nasty little bitch is on the frontline and she had the results within 24 hours of the polls closing. Since when Granger knew he lost the election.
PPP 34 seats.
APNU 30 seats
Joinder Parties 1
@ Totaram .....
1. In Guyana the SOPs reflect the votes for each polling station. The total number represent the votes cast for each region. Hence once again .... the total votes for each region MUST reflect the SOPs.
2. Regarding Canada ....
At the Federal and Provincial elections, I am intimately involved with the political campaigns for the two individuals who are my friends and am recognized by the election officials as the official representative for the individuals.
Now it is my personal practice that about half an hour before the closing of the polls, I visit one of the polling station and like other representatives of the other political parties accommodation is made for us to be seated and observe the proceedings.
When the polls are closed, all of the representatives are present to ensure and verify that the ballot boxes are secured and everything is in order.
NOW ...
The election official then provide the results for that polling station on a special public location where each one of us can immediately record the votes cast for each political party.
3. Guyana again ...
The process in Guyana is identical to Canada ...
SOPs in Guyana equal to the process in Canada for the election results at each polling station.
@Former Member Long explanation but missed the point. In the event of a disagreement, whose results do you take, that of a contesting party or the elections commission?
Only in Guyana the Jackasses can,t add, there should never be a dispute. At the polling stations all the scrutineers would check and oversee an accurate count.
In Guyana these Jackasses want to thief infront your face, uncivilized apes.
@ Totaram ...
My explanation is explicit and to the point with your relevant post.
============
Now to your question in your last post on Guyana ...
Should there be a disagreement, the matter indeed must be resolved.
a. PPPC published the SOPs for the 10 regions.
b. Chairman of GECOM has not published the SOPs for the regions nor provided the official declaration of the results for the elections.
c. Again, the numbers provided for Region 4 by the Officer at GECOM are inconsistent with the process done for the other nine regions.
All of you guys need to ignore Totaram. His purpose here is to spread fake news and derail the good threads. Donβt address him. When the PPP government is installed he will go away.
In any disagreement one does not take one side or the other. The law allows for a recount. That aside, it is only APNU who are scared of any recounts.
Instead of deliberating with uncertain pretenses that creates argument we have to activate the man to put our reasoning into effect. People are jumping the gun because the bearing or bullet cannot be compromised like the yolk of an egg. God is trying to change the foundation of Krishna's creation and that must not happen.
System: normalize forces around the bearing (for example a mango) so there will be an equalization of forces to net 0 that'll create physical change for Lord Krishna and Jesus with their conscience. In this way they can manifest in this world.
@Totaram, Twilights Last Gleaming. PNC has self destruct. They will not be trusted for a generation. I hope PPP reaches out to the good among them because they will grow old in opposition!
I agree with Bibi. Totaram is so needy that he seek some attention by posting untruthful stories. Donβt buy into his need. Ignore him because APNU has done that already. He donβt have sense. He has nonsense to say.
@Former Member What are talking about you twit? Go back to sleep.
Have anyone seen @Rochelle recently? Is she helping with the recount!
@Totaram, donβt tek aan dem bais. Dem mekking rough jokes! We know PNC won. Just waiting verification!
Bai Base, Rochelle disappeared after folks started linking she to Nuff again.
I love this...
Granger says GECOM-CARICOM recount accord needed; Jagdeo suspicious
Posted by: Denis Chabrol in Caribbean, Elections, Legal, News, Politics March 15, 2020 1 Comment
President David Granger Sunday afternoon said the Caribbean Communityβs (Caricom) supervision of a national recount of votes cast in the March 2, 2020 general elections depends on an agreement between that regional organisation and the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM), a move that Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo sees as a sinister plot.
βI am not sure that they want to delay this further so that they can then compromise the ballots themselves and the ballot boxes as they did with the Statements of Poll,β Jagdeo told Demerara Waves Online News/News-Talk Radio Guyana.
Granger said he told Caricomβs Chairperson, Barbados Prime Minister Mia Mottley on Sunday that the Caricom Initiative should operate within the legal framework of the Constitution of Guyana and respect the role of the Elections Commission and the rulings of the Supreme Court.
βI urged, also, that the Commission be allowed to craft the Terms of Reference governing the relationship between the CARICOM Initiative and the Elections Commission. The Organisational Structure which should embody supervisory and technical elements should be determined by the Elections Commission,β Granger said.
Jagdeo plans to raise his concerns with Mottley.
He said a new legal framework was not necessary for a Region Four recount because the laws permit the GECOM Chairman to order such an exercise.
Jagdeo stopped short of accusing Granger of wasting Caricomβs time to mobilise the members of the High Level Team to oversee the national recount on a special aircraft to land here Saturday night with a view to begin work almost immediately. βIt seems that he wants to move backward one stepβ¦I can only surmise that since he asked for this, that itβs a matter of urgencyβ¦They get here based on an initiative that he proposed and now suddenly they have to sit and wait because he wants some legal framework to conduct a recount,β Jagdeo said.
He said Caricom would not be taking over the exercise but would be having oversight because βmany of the compromised staff they are still in GECOM so we had to get people to supervise that who are impartial.β
The Peopleβs Progressive Party (PPP) General Secretary Jagdeo noted that a recount of Region Fourβs ballots does not require a new legal framework because the GECOM Chairman has already given an undertaking that that would be done. The Returning Officer of Region Four, Clairmont Mingo has refused several requests for recounts, saying that no counting agents had been appointed.
The GECOM meeting, under the Chairmanship of Retired Justice Claudette Singh, began at 2 pm instead of 11 am as had been previously suggested to give Caricom the green light to begin supervising the counting of ballots.
The Chief Elections Officer, Keith Lowenfield is expected to craft a work plan for the recount.
The GECOM Commission is expected to reconvene a meeting on Sunday at 6 pm.
Representing Caricom at the meeting with GECOM were Secretary General, Irwin LaRocque; Assistant Secretary General (Foreign and Community Relations), Ambassador Colin Granderson and members of the Caricom high-level counting supervision team.
Attachments
I tell you, this is just another stunt to muddy the waters. Their lobby firm has gone in high gear in DC. PNC intends to mess this up that the only alternative are new elections.
I never trusted BJ agreeing to the CARICOM oversight. They are not his friend. This is kith and kin. Have OAS, Carter Center etc do the oversight.
When these PPP will come to their senses. They do some things so well, but they trust and faith are misplaced!
Indians are a small pond in a sea of Afro-Centric sentiment. Guyana is a sore thumb, Indian governed and now oil rich. Itβs the missing piece of the puzzle!
This will end bad!
We shall continue the long struggle for this is the test of true leadership for democracy.