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As provided for in our laws, they have two elements – the SOPs and the recount,” Jagdeo said. “The recount has always been part of our law; some of the leaders of CARICOM were asking ‘what is the big deal?’ That is how you end it all. What is this big deal about not allowing a recount, when the law says that and that is how you end the controversy?” Jagdeo said. He emphasised that the matter can be laid to rest definitively “by going to the ballot boxes and recounting them in front of everyone.”

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@Totaram, no need for elaborate statistical analysis to ascertain probabilities of outcome after the event has occurred.  You can now do a postmortem of the elections.

What is needed now is the credible and transparent verification of the outcome.

Take the lessons to the next election!

FM

The roller coaster will be over the moment Granger comes to terms with the truth and do the right thing which is step aside and not stand in the way of President Ali doing what the electorate mandated him to do.

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@Former Member: Granger is delusional. He will not accept defeat. He knew before the elections that he was a one-term president who by chance got to be president because Surujballi refused a recount in one region. The man is living in an African dictatorship mentality, the likes of Mugabe and Idi Amin. He believes that he is the law and the constitution and no one dares question him because he has backers in the army and police.

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@Totaram, you seem confused with your own self. You threw out statistics, then you say no prediction but exposing deception.

Well, there is no need for all that fancy analysis. The event has occurred, just validate the outcome.

FM

@Django, Rochelle, Totaram (Mit) .. 

1) Do you have objection to a total recount.

2) Do you have objection to observers and or anyone to oversee this process in a  transparent environment.

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@Former Member, don’t know what the arguing over when the facts are in front of them.

PNC legal arguments, beginning with the NCV math to yesterday comedy show makes them look like jokers. And we know they are not that silly.  They are actually well educated are skilled.  However, contortion of facts make people do stupidness.

I actually pity them. Maybe Jagdeo should offer as olive branch. I believe they feeling desperate.  Offer some PNC officials key positions in a PPP/C administration. 

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@Former MemberThe validation will come later today or tomorrow.  It is you who is confused . The numbers being peddled by the PPP make no sense.  Statistics is not used only to predict.  

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Totaram is clutching at straws. The constitution is very clear and the international community has not changed its position regarding the counting of the SOP.

Failing to do so with transparency will make the PNC and Illegal and rouge administration and they will face the wrath of sanctions and isolation. 

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@Totaram: For you, no amount of evidence can ever prove the PPP right. You are Granger's clone and you pander to conspiracies and falsehoods peddled by the PNC propagandists at Congress Place.

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Can only senior members and administrators embed FB videos? I would like to embed a video explaining the discrepancy of PPP's SOPs from their website. Thanks.

Django can help you in this regards, since I have your attention.

1)Are you against a total recount. 

2) Do you have any objection to observers and or anyone to oversee this process in a  transparent environment.

FM

Rochelle, you can post any video.

I personally think that your inability to post any such video is a message from the supreme and a signal that wickedness and stupidness are not in accordance with his standards. 

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The Caricom leaders expressed shock that PNC and GECOM are objecting to any recount of ballot boxes for Region 4  as a final remedy in the case of disagreements with SOP. 
PNC controlled GECOM has demonstrated that they want to use “technicality” as an excuse not to produce credible, transparent, free and fair elections. The international community will not accept anything less than free and fair election results and will depend on the observers pronouncements. The PNC controlled GECOM cannot get away with fraudulent election counts. 

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@Totaram, no need for all that theoretics and theatrics. Just validate the SOPs or recount the ballots.

I have a feeling the PNC is trying to build a case to reject even the validated numbers based on some far fetched Fibonacci theory as it relates to Guyana elections.  I guess the Russian thingy not gaining much traction with Trump!

FM

Totaram

@BasemanThe validation will come later today or tomorrow. It is you who is confused . The numbers being peddled by the PPP make no sense. Statistics is not used only to predict. .

as a reasoning individual you cannot say the numbers make no sense. That would imply you have "sensible" numbers. Establish that first before you conclude otherwise.

And yes on can use statistics for more than predicting possible outcomes. They are a forensic tool also. We know the results of the other regions and the PPP are up some 51 K. It means from the advantage of the APNU in the last elections in region 4 (40K), the APNU has to perform some 20 percent better to catch up.

They certainly have not done so  in any of  past elections here or else where. In this election they under performed everywhere else. Of course that does not mean they did over perform here this time. However they are claiming beyond a statistical range to some 25 to 30 percent improve performance. Let the votes be counted properly so we would know

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@Former Member: Were the wooden ballot boxes computerized? I don't think these PNC followers know what a computer is or how it works. It's beyond comprehension how Rumjattan can invoke the Russian interfering in Guyana's election. The man can dream up some lies in a hurry, and sadly, he starts believing in them.

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@Former Member: Ramjattan, Basil, and Boston are PNC's best legal minds. Just imagine what the rest of them sound like. Mankind has given up on helping them. They should start calling on a higher power.

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