caribny posted:

GTAngler posted:

ronan posted:

it's interesting to watch the usual suspects circle round this relatively innocuous news item, working their mediocre minds hard, trying to make a case of Gov't giving SOMETHING to BLACK people that is denied INDIAN people

sick stuff

Mind explaining that?

When successful Afro Guyanese, who own businesses outside of Guyana and can get access to banks in those countries, report that they cannot in Guyana you know that there is a problem.

But you endorse discrimination by the private sector if it is blacks who they punish.  So start screaming that it is racist for any discussion about whether there is discrimination against black by the banks in Guyana.

It's hard not to respond to you without using obscenities because you're so infuriatingly ignorant. I asked what was meant by "government GIVING something to black people that is DENIED Indian people".

GTAngler posted:

 

It's hard not to respond to you without using obscenities because you're so infuriatingly ignorant. I asked what was meant by "government GIVING something to black people that is DENIED Indian people".

The reason why this meeting was arranged was because blacks have been complaining since the late 90s about systemic discrimination against them by the private sector.  You all Indians laughed at them, called them racists and ranted that "dem black man cyan run cake shop". 

Its just amazing the blatant anti blackness that occurs in Guyana. And I learned this from other Caribbean people who have visited Guyana and saw the treatment of blacks during the PPP that reminded them of the colonial era in their islands.  They were perplexed that Afro Guyanese appeared to tolerate this when in the post WII era they were well ahead of other blacks in the Caribbean.

So unless you deal with that problem you will see blacks demanding that the public sector address this inequity. 

But you only care when you think that Indians face exclusion. Well the best way for Indians to avoid exclusion is to ensure that NO group in Guyana is excluded!

caribny posted:

GTAngler posted:

ronan posted:

it's interesting to watch the usual suspects circle round this relatively innocuous news item, working their mediocre minds hard, trying to make a case of Gov't giving SOMETHING to BLACK people that is denied INDIAN people

sick stuff

Mind explaining that?

When successful Afro Guyanese, who own businesses outside of Guyana and can get access to banks in those countries, report that they cannot in Guyana you know that there is a problem.

But you endorse discrimination by the private sector if it is blacks who they punish.  So start screaming that it is racist for any discussion about whether there is discrimination against black by the banks in Guyana.

Show me where I endorse or endorsed discrimination against blacks in any sector. I said I don't believe in Affirmative Action. If YOU have an inferiority complex and believe that that is the only way blacks can move up, that is your problem. It certainly is not my belief or opinion. There is an old cowboy saying, "Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction". Immediately you come to mind.

And there is NO place in all of this where anyone is saying that only blacks will get loans.  Not even Eric Phillips is asking for this.  They want to ensure that small businesses gain better access to loans. 

Given who owns most of the small businesses I find it hilarious that some scream that Indians will be excluded.  In fact small business owners will be included.  Without regard to race.  In fact it will be the banks and not the gov't who will decide on this.  The banks allowed to take more risk because 70% of the loan will be guaranteed so their losses will be 30% of the unpaid portion of the default.

As soon as blacks advocate for their rights people like GTAngler get heart attacks.  He would rather blacks remain as security guards and cashiers.

caribny posted:

GTAngler posted:

 

It's hard not to respond to you without using obscenities because you're so infuriatingly ignorant. I asked what was meant by "government GIVING something to black people that is DENIED Indian people".

 

The reason why this meeting was arranged was because blacks have been complaining since the late 90s about systemic discrimination against them by the private sector.  You all Indians laughed at them, called them racists and ranted that "dem black man cyan run cake shop". 

Its just amazing the blatant anti blackness that occurs in Guyana. And I learned this from other Caribbean people who have visited Guyana and saw the treatment of blacks during the PPP that reminded them of the colonial era in their islands.  They were perplexed that Afro Guyanese appeared to tolerate this when in the post WII era they were well ahead of other blacks in the Caribbean.

So unless you deal with that problem you will see blacks demanding that the public sector address this inequity. 

But you only care when you think that Indians face exclusion. Well the best way for Indians to avoid exclusion is to ensure that NO group in Guyana is excluded!

That is what I have been saying all along but your racist head only pops up when any other race but Afro points out racism perpetuated by Afros. As long as Afros are the ones benefitting from any bias or racism, you keep your damn mouth shut.

caribny posted:

And there is NO place in all of this where anyone is saying that only blacks will get loans.  Not even Eric Phillips is asking for this.  They want to ensure that small businesses gain better access to loans. 

Given who owns most of the small businesses I find it hilarious that some scream that Indians will be excluded.  In fact small business owners will be included.  Without regard to race.  In fact it will be the banks and not the gov't who will decide on this.  The banks allowed to take more risk because 70% of the loan will be guaranteed so their losses will be 30% of the unpaid portion of the default.

As soon as blacks advocate for their rights people like GTAngler get heart attacks.  He would rather blacks remain as security guards and cashiers.

I am going to ask again you dunce, Show me where I endorse or endorsed discrimination against blacks in any sector. 

GTAngler posted:

 

Show me where I endorse or endorsed discrimination against blacks

You do because you refuse to allow any discussion of discrimination against blacks.  Even as you scream about cries of Indian exclusion and you do NOT cite this as evidence of "Indian inferiority" when blacks make similar claims this is how you discredit them.

The fact remains that racism exists in Guyana and you want to stifle any discussion of it.  That is unless you think that it is Indians who are being victimized, then you jump and wail and scream!

You didn't even take the time to see that no one is asking the gov't to make any special concession to blacks.  The loan decisions will be made by the lending officers.  Yes the SAME folks who already think that blacks shouldn't be offered loans.

Next time anyone wails about under representation of Indians in any facet of Guyana my response will be that they suffer from an inferiority complex.  I bet that you will scream and call me a racist for saying this.

caribny posted:

GTAngler posted:

 

Show me where I endorse or endorsed discrimination against blacks

You do because you refuse to allow any discussion of discrimination against blacks.  Even as you scream about cries of Indian exclusion and you do NOT cite this as evidence of "Indian inferiority" when blacks make similar claims this is how you discredit them.

The fact remains that racism exists in Guyana and you want to stifle any discussion of it.  That is unless you think that it is Indians who are being victimized, then you jump and wail and scream!

You didn't even take the time to see that no one is asking the gov't to make any special concession to blacks.  The loan decisions will be made by the lending officers.  Yes the SAME folks who already think that blacks shouldn't be offered loans.

Next time anyone wails about under representation of Indians in any facet of Guyana my response will be that they suffer from an inferiority complex.  I bet that you will scream and call me a racist for saying this.

I said YOU interpreted my not believing in AA as discriminating against blacks and YOU seem to have an inferiority complex. I also specified that I did NOT share that belief or opinion. I am not sure what the medical explanation is for your mental state but it is useless for me to respond to anything you say because you haven't the ability to discern the true meaning of anything I write. So, carry on with your imbecility.

GTAngler posted:

ronan posted:

it's interesting to watch the usual suspects circle round this relatively innocuous news item, working their mediocre minds hard, trying to make a case of Gov't giving SOMETHING to BLACK people that is denied INDIAN people

sick stuff

Mind explaining that?

what exactly is unclear about the highlighted?

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

Nothing for sugar workers. I wonder why ?

Give them cheap electricity and nothing more.  That is what your Jagdeo did to the bauxite workers.

I must say that I'm appalled and dis appointed that a member at your level would say such a thing. Tit for tat, Carib? Is this the best u can offer? So the PPP did it to the bauxite worker therefore its the APNU's turn to do it to the sugar workers. A member with your caliber should have offered a much better response to yuji question. Shame on u, man.

Sheik101 posted:

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

Nothing for sugar workers. I wonder why ?

Give them cheap electricity and nothing more.  That is what your Jagdeo did to the bauxite workers.

I must say that I'm appalled and dis appointed that a member at your level would say such a thing. Tit for tat, Carib? Is this the best u can offer? So the PPP did it to the bauxite worker therefore its the APNU's turn to do it to the sugar workers. A member with your caliber should have offered a much better response to yuji question. Shame on u, man.

indeed . . . tit for tat is absurd, anti-Guyana and destructive

but how many here cared to reflect on the benign neglect of bauxite workers under the Jagdeo regime

indeed . . . besides LOUD silence, we had (as one example) khristian klansman Seignet holding forth on GNI that the PPP wasn’t inflicting enough sufferation pan dem Linden blackman . . . Biblical curses and all that

fast forward here 2018 . . . everybady getting a come to Jesus moment now that ‘conventional’ wisdom coalesces around abie ox ‘being gored’

i think that’s what caribny is underlining

ronan posted:

Sheik101 posted:

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

Nothing for sugar workers. I wonder why ?

Give them cheap electricity and nothing more.  That is what your Jagdeo did to the bauxite workers.

I must say that I'm appalled and dis appointed that a member at your level would say such a thing. Tit for tat, Carib? Is this the best u can offer? So the PPP did it to the bauxite worker therefore its the APNU's turn to do it to the sugar workers. A member with your caliber should have offered a much better response to yuji question. Shame on u, man.

indeed . . . tit for tat is absurd, anti-Guyana and destructive

but how many here cared to reflect on the benign neglect of bauxite workers under the Jagdeo regime

indeed . . . besides LOUD silence, some like seignet were holding forth on GNI, to much nodding and amens i might add, that the PPP wasn’t inflicting enough sufferation pan dem Linden blackman . . . Biblical curses and all that

fast forward here 2018 . . . everybady getting a come to Jesus moment now that ‘conventional’ wisdom coalesces around abie ox ‘being gored’

i think that’s what caribny is underlining

Nonsense, the bauxite workers termed the phrase "father of the nation" in reference to Jagdeo with the various safety nets that the then govt put in place to ease their pain. 

Drugb posted:

Nonsense, the bauxite workers termed the phrase "father of the nation" in reference to Jagdeo with the various safety nets that the then govt put in place to ease their pain. 

clap clap clap . . .

isn’t there some gawdforsaken rock, somewhere, under which you are overdue to return as bandleader for the PPP cockroach tiefman chorus?

yaaaaaawwwn

ronan posted:

Drugb posted:

Nonsense, the bauxite workers termed the phrase "father of the nation" in reference to Jagdeo with the various safety nets that the then govt put in place to ease their pain. 

clap clap clap . . .

isn’t there some gawdforsaken rock, somewhere, under which you are overdue to return as bandleader for the PPP cockroach tiefman chorus?

yaaaaaawwwn

I am indifferent to the PPP, they didn't do a good job too. 
But the PNC takes the cake on incompetence, especially with supporters like you who will fetch their slop can and bear the stench without complaining. 

GTAngler posted:

 

I said YOU interpreted my not believing in AA as discriminating against blacks and YOU seem to have an inferiority complex. I also specified that I did NOT share that belief or opinion. I am not sure what the medical explanation is for your mental state but it is useless for me to respond to anything you say because you haven't the ability to discern the true meaning of anything I write. So, carry on with your imbecility.

There you go the implicit racist that you are. I did NOT raise any discussion of affirmative action for ANYONE in Guyana.  Yet you default to that and are now tying yourself in knots as you fell into a hole of your making.

If I didn't demand affirmative action for blacks why will I care whether you favor it? 

You are an implicit racist because you have double standards.  The private sector can discriminate against blacks but blacks cannot discriminate against Indians when they have the power to do so!

NOW CAUGHT IN A WEB OF YOUR OWN NONSENSE YOU TRY TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE BY THINKING THAT THIS IS ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.  IT IS NOT.

IN FACT THE ONLY GROUP IN GUYANA WHICH DESERVES AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ARE AMERINDIANS. 

Drugb posted:

 

Nonsense, the bauxite workers termed the phrase "father of the nation" in reference to Jagdeo with the various safety nets that the then govt put in place to ease their pain. 

Why did bauxite workers consider Jagdeo to be "father of the nation" when in NO election did the PPP win more than 20% of the votes in region 10?   You repeat what some starving PPP milk drinker said when Jagdeo visited.  Obviously few bauxite workers agreed with him, based on the thrashings that the PPP has received in virtually every single election.

I will remind you that 10% of the population are Amerindians because this area includes many riverain areas and not just Linden.  So this means that the PPP did even worse among the bauxite workers.  In fact 2015 showed almost record voter turnout.

Apparently the beating that I used to give you continue to prevent you from thinking clearly.  If you direct posts at me I will continue to treat you like the pathetic idiot that you are.  Go play with Nehru!

ronan posted:

 

i think that’s what caribny is underlining

I am saying that no Guyanese should receive preferential treatment.  The same ones who screamed about "dem lazy and ungrateful blackman" now want sugar workers to receive support.   This because the bulk of them are Indians. 

They scream that bauxite workers got cheap electricity so should be happy. I state that sugar workers should be treated the same, or these PPP frauds should then admit that Jagdeo's treatment of the bauxite workers was an abomination!

They cannot rant that Linden got free electricity so should shut up and then scream that to offer only that to sugar workers is cruel.  This is the double standards that I talk about.

Sheik101 posted:

 

I must say that I'm appalled and dis appointed that a member at your level would say such a thing. Tit for tat, Carib? Is this the best u can offer? So the PPP did it to the bauxite worker therefore its the APNU's turn to do it to the sugar workers. A member with your caliber should have offered a much better response to yuji question. Shame on u, man.

Oh so you now admit that the bauxite workers were treated badly?

Or do you claim that sugar workers receive better treatment because they are Indians!

When you lead a debate about the racism by the PPP against blacks then I will withdraw my tit for tat.

GTAngler posted:

 

That is what I have been saying all along but your racist head only pops up when any other race but Afro points out racism perpetuated by Afros. As long as Afros are the ones benefitting from any bias or racism, you keep your damn mouth shut.

I pop up to attack Indian racists and they take great offense at that. Well once Indian racists exist Caribny will show up.  So I will continue to confront you while you exhibit your implicit bias against blacks!

I have said that BOTH groups have engaged in ethnic exclusionary behavior and I said that DIRECTLY TO YOU?

Have you admitted this?  No you scream I am a racist because I REFUSE to let you rant about Indian exclusion and then call me a racist when I tell you that black exclusion exists too.

caribny posted:

GTAngler posted:

 

That is what I have been saying all along but your racist head only pops up when any other race but Afro points out racism perpetuated by Afros. As long as Afros are the ones benefitting from any bias or racism, you keep your damn mouth shut.

I pop up to attack Indian racists and they take great offense at that. Well once Indian racists exist Caribny will show up.  So I will continue to confront you while you exhibit your implicit bias against blacks!

 

I have said that BOTH groups have engaged in ethnic exclusionary behavior and I said that DIRECTLY TO YOU?

Have you admitted this?  No you scream I am a racist because I REFUSE to let you rant about Indian exclusion and then call me a racist when I tell you that black exclusion exists too.

You are a known racist against indos. Bottom line, you support free electricity for blackman and tell the indos to take a hike. 

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

 

Nonsense, the bauxite workers termed the phrase "father of the nation" in reference to Jagdeo with the various safety nets that the then govt put in place to ease their pain. 

Why did bauxite workers consider Jagdeo to be "father of the nation" when in NO election did the PPP win more than 20% of the votes in region 10?   You repeat what some starving PPP milk drinker said when Jagdeo visited.  Obviously few bauxite workers agreed with him, based on the thrashings that the PPP has received in virtually every single election.

I will remind you that 10% of the population are Amerindians because this area includes many riverain areas and not just Linden.  So this means that the PPP did even worse among the bauxite workers.  In fact 2015 showed almost record voter turnout.

Apparently the beating that I used to give you continue to prevent you from thinking clearly.  If you direct posts at me I will continue to treat you like the pathetic idiot that you are.  Go play with Nehru!

Whattax.

caribny posted: 

Why did bauxite workers consider Jagdeo to be "father of the nation" when in NO election did the PPP win more than 20% of the votes in region 10?   You repeat what some starving PPP milk drinker said when Jagdeo visited.  Obviously few bauxite workers agreed with him, based on the thrashings that the PPP has received in virtually every single election.

I will remind you that 10% of the population are Amerindians because this area includes many riverain areas and not just Linden.  So this means that the PPP did even worse among the bauxite workers.  In fact 2015 showed almost record voter turnout.

Apparently the beating that I used to give you continue to prevent you from thinking clearly.  If you direct posts at me I will continue to treat you like the pathetic idiot that you are.  Go play with Nehru!

You know very well this topic and the people of Linden at the time who called Jagdeo the father of the nation. In fact one blackman mentioned that PPP give milk while PNC gave black tea. Don't play stupidie with your forgetful self. 

These topics must be discussed during the next election and the PPP must bring up these injustices that Indos and Natives Face. 

PNC is displaying blatant pre 1992 racism and they try to label anyone who challenges them. The are labelling all Indos as wife abusers, thieves and drug smugglers and Indos do not dare bring up Social Ills, it is branded as racist. 

They are branding Indos and when Indos fight back, they are muzzled PNC Apartheid style. 

Look at how Broomes have been shielded by Granger despite her attacking and harassing Security Personnel. I am sure that she will be in charge of securing Ballot Boxes.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. PPP must NOT waste their time and resources on certain group of voters and focus on the Native Votes and a few Douglas and they will cross the line with a Massive Indo turnout.

In the meanwhile, Linden continues to receive Billions in subsidies and now this news of massive subsidies and assistance exclusive to Afros only.

Sugar workers and their families are going to bed hungry belly and white mouth is returning pre 1992.

Time to speak out !!!!! PNC pre 1992 Apartheid has returned !!!!!!!

what is it about the PPP that their partially educated surrogates feel the need to LIE straight up without reflection or pause with infantile 'arguments' a Seventh-Grade child can shred with minimal effort?

. . . RACE BAIT being the (Goebbelsian) go-to comfort zone for this particular specie of retard political vermin

i have not seen this phenomenon manifested in ANY other political party in Guyana

another 5 years in the political wilderness will jump start the cleanse

yuji22 posted:

And when CNN's Don Lemon talks about 72 percent Afors births are out of wedlock, all you vex up and swell up all you mouth:

so . . . who "vex and swell up [dem] mouth"?

little child, stop fantasizing that you important

obviously you not getting enuf 'respect' at home . . . but this is really not the place to compensate

other than that, what's your point?

skeldon_man posted:

Django posted:

Labba posted:

Hey hey hey...loan foh afro business but coolie is not foh army...hey hey hey...look all dem ROAR coolie jumbie and coolie bank na give dem peopkle loan money...hey hey hey...one love do gooder Mr Ronan muss be celebrate since dem coolie bank doan give dem black peopkle money...hey hey hey...

Who stop them bhai ?? maybe you can write wan paper on the recruiting methods that stymied their enrollment.

Django, let me tell you this. I had a high school friend from one of the villages(I think 67 or 68). He was 5' 10". He passed a couple subjects GCE and applied for a job in the police force. He never heard from them. What does that tell you?

Since he has couple subjects GCE, then he was overqualified for the police force.