caribny posted:The fact remains that he had 3 years to talk about what was wrong.
According to Charrandas, he had made other objections in the past but they were ignored. That said he always voted party line because that was expected from each member.
Baseman posted:Are you saying you'll bring back the Buxtonians? You better watch out this time!
How Afro Guyanese will react to a renewed Indian dictatorship is for you to figure out but people eventually react against their oppressors.
Bibi Haniffa posted:Pretty much. Go check if that CAL ticket was ever used.
Drones flew him away.
But Bibi if the Guyana gov't really wants him is fleeing to Toronto a city packed with Guyanese a smart idea? Maybe you will now tell us that he has moved to the North Pole.
ksazma posted:As of this moment, the onus of failing to reform the Constitution is on the Coalition government. N
And the role of the opposition party was to make them do so.
Now if the NC was about the failure of the Coalition to move on with this process and they lost the NC many would have been quite happy to see them go, and I bet MPs voting would have been ethnically diverse, removing any claims of ethnic machinations.
But Jagdeo loves that Burnham constitution even more than Granger does. He just wants to ensure that his appointed stooge gets the protection that this constitution provides.
If Jagdeo were truly as smart as some claim he would have made the NC about the constitution and then sat back and watch coalition supporters argue amongst themselves.
But bullyism and corruption is all that he knows. Even Siggy had to admit that Jagdeo loves Burnham even more than Granger does.
caribny posted:Drugb posted:You are the king liar that Lord Nelson was singing about. Always making up urban legend and passing it off as fact.
A man who praises Roger Khan, a known consort of Colombian drug cartels as Guyana's hero. Yes YOU druggie!
Your grunts cannot be treated with any seriousness.
When did I praise RK? He was a means to an end. Stop detracting with the lies and for once be truthful in your life.
caribny posted:Baseman posted:Are you saying you'll bring back the Buxtonians? You better watch out this time!
How Afro Guyanese will react to a renewed Indian dictatorship is for you to figure out but people eventually react against their oppressors.
This is an account from President Jimmy Carter's "Beyond the White House" book. Care to explain what PPP dictatorship Afro Guyanese were reacting to on election day in 1992?
In 2007, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter wrote "Beyond the White House," about his post-presidency work with The Carter Center. In it, he reflected on a number of election observation missions, including the Center's first to Guyana, in 1992. An excerpt from the book, published by Simon and Schuster, is reprinted here.
The most personal danger I have felt since leaving the White House was in Guyana in 1992. This small nation on the northern coast of South America was then and still is the most completely divided that I know. About 9 percent of its citizens are Amerindians living mostly in the vast forests, and another 80 percent are divided between descendants of indentured servants from India and descendants of African slaves, both brought in by the British during colonial times. The major political parties are largely separated along these racial lines, as are many of the basic professions.
The Indo-Guyanese hold a slight majority, but the Afro-Guyanese and their People's National Congress (PNC) party were able to control the government from the time of national independence in 1966, assisted by the government of Great Britain and the CIA, both of which considered Cheddi Jagan, leader of the opposition People's Progressive Party (PPP), to be a Marxist.
President Desmond Hoyte welcomed President and Mrs. Carter during a visit to Guyana in October 1990. (Photo: The Carter Center/K. Moore)
In 1990, Mr. Jagan came to The Carter Center, claimed that previous elections had been fraudulent, and asked us to help ensure that the next one would be honest and fair. We agreed, provided the ruling party would also accept our presence as observers. For several months, President Desmond Hoyte objected strongly, but public opinion became so greatly aroused that he finally agreed, just one month before the election was scheduled. Bob Pastor and his team developed a list of minimal election standards, and I went to Guyana to discuss them with the president and others. Three of the most important were to have an accurate voters' list, a politically balanced election commission, and votes counted at the polling places.
These issues had been hotly debated for almost thirty years and were very difficult for the ruling party to accept. Finally, as I was preparing to leave the country and declare that we could not participate, President Hoyte accepted all our provisions. The election was delayed until October 1992, and government officials also invited observers of the British Commonwealth, with whom they had enjoyed a close and friendly relationship.
As usual, we deployed our two-person teams throughout the country before Election Day, and I went west along the coast toward the border with Venezuela to visit a few polling sites in a riverine area inhabited by Arawak Indians, traveling from one village to another in a small boat. On the way back to Georgetown, the capital, we flew over the famous site of the 1978 mass suicide of Jim Jones and more than nine hundred of his cult followers. When we arrived at the airport, our small plane was surrounded by members of the security forces, who informed me that riots had broken out all over Georgetown, and that I must go to the U.S. Embassy, where I would be safe.
The day-long siege of the Elections Commission headquarters in Georgetown by a violent and angry crowd claiming they were not allowed to vote nearly caused Guyana's elections to collapse. (Photo courtesy of Guyana Chronicle)
Instead, I went to my hotel room and called President Hoyte, who assured me that the police were in charge and order would soon be restored. Bob Pastor informed me that the PNC were obviously losing the election, and that some of their supporters had been induced to disrupt the process. I decided that the election should continue if possible and sent word to our observers to monitor events and, after the polls closed, to go to their assigned places to gather quick count results. Our senior observer, Jennifer McCoy, told me that the election center had come under attack by an angry mob, some of whom claimed to have been denied a ballot. She had visited the building and tried to work out a solution with the PNC party chief, but the riot continued.
Police cordoned off Robb Street in Georgetown, Guyana, after dispersing a stone-throwing crowd in front of the Freedom House, headquarters of the People's Progressive Party. (Photo courtesy of Guyana Chronicle)
The election center was where all of the communication equipment and computers, on which election results would be tabulated, were located. It was a two-story wooden building with many windows, with the electronic equipment housed in an isolated central room on the second floor. When I arrived, accompanied by three Secret Service agents, the building was surrounded by several hundred rioters, who had already broken all the windows with clubs and stones. There was only one Guyanese police office present, a woman wearing a uniform but without sidearms.
We went upstairs and found that all the computers had been transferred to one of the more isolated hotels for safekeeping. I phoned the hotel manager, who told me that the computers could not be operated there unless "a battalion of troops is sent to protect us against the mobs trying to stop the vote count." I called the president again. I told him that I was in the unprotected building and that there was no way to complete the election unless the workers could return with their computers. Also, I told him that our Secret Service would contact the White House if I didn't receive immediate protection from the mob outside.
Calm was restored after another hour, and the computers were tabulating returns by midnight. Our quick count showed that the ruling party would lose by about 14 percent, and early the next morning I went to visit both presidential candidates. They agreed to refrain from any public statements and to accept the final results, which were announced three days later. Cheddi Jagan was sworn in as president after what was considered to be the country's first free and fair election since independence. After his death five years later, his wife, Janet Jagan, became president, but she resigned in 1999 because of poor health.
The Carter Center has remained in close contact with the people of Guyana and has helped them to work out a long-range plan for economic and political development. A young deputy finance minister, Bharrat Jagdeo, was assigned by the Jagans to work with us on this project, and he performed this duty superbly. When Mrs. Jagan became ill, Jagdeo was chosen to succeed her as president, and he was elected and then reelected in 2001 and 2006. Unfortunately, many of the divisions in Guyana remain.
Cribby will not touch the Carter account from 92. He is more concerned with demonizing Indos as the oppressors of Blacks
Drugb posted:Cribby will not touch the Carter account from 92. He is more concerned with demonizing Indos as the oppressors of Blacks
I am a lil disappointed. I was hoping that he would respond to it. I am a cane cutter so it took a lot of me to go google that article. 
ksazma posted:Methinks Sharma felt relieved that he didn't have to defect.
Haha, I think so too!
Baseman posted:ksazma posted:Methinks Sharma felt relieved that he didn't have to defect.
Haha, I think so too!
I kept looking at Sharma. Never looked at Persaud. My eyes was on the wrong prize.
caribny posted:Baseman posted:Are you saying you'll bring back the Buxtonians? You better watch out this time!
How Afro Guyanese will react to a renewed Indian dictatorship is for you to figure out but people eventually react against their oppressors.
So, is that another PNC threat?
ksazma posted:Baseman posted:ksazma posted:Methinks Sharma felt relieved that he didn't have to defect.
Haha, I think so too!
I kept looking at Sharma. Never looked at Persaud. My eyes was on the wrong prize.
His brother-in-law, my nephew in Guyana kept his business open for Christmas shoppers! He was not worried!
Baseman posted:ksazma posted:Baseman posted:ksazma posted:Methinks Sharma felt relieved that he didn't have to defect.
Haha, I think so too!
I kept looking at Sharma. Never looked at Persaud. My eyes was on the wrong prize.
His brother-in-law, my nephew in Guyana kept his business open for Christmas shoppers! He was not worried!
Too early. Trouble only comes when PNC loses. That is not till next year.
A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Dave posted:A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Rather than mekking us wuk so haaad, can you just post the link!
Dave posted:A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Even Irfaan said it, yet the PNC jackasses were braying on their side of the isle. The PPP still has a reserve mole left in the PNC camp. He stood down after Charandass delivered the death blow to the PNC.
Black people will never trust Indians. We either stab in the back as Charrandas did, or we roll over and spread the legs like Nagamootoo did. The rose with the thorn, that is abie!
Baseman posted:Dave posted:A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Rather than mekking us wuk so haaad, can you just post the link!
Baseman posted:
Dave posted:A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Rather than mekking us wuk so haaad, can you just post the link!
Donât have right now, but gon try to get it and cut it to Anil speech.
Baseman posted:Black people will never trust Indians. We either stab in the back as Charrandas did, or we roll over and spread the legs like Nagamootoo did. The rose with the thorn, that is abie!
Never gave a fart what others think....that's why I like what Charandass did
It took some balls
Ray posted:Baseman posted:Black people will never trust Indians. We either stab in the back as Charrandas did, or we roll over and spread the legs like Nagamootoo did. The rose with the thorn, that is abie!
Never gave a fart what others think....that's why I like what Charandass did
It took some balls
y'all seeking 'manhood' in, and strapping on "balls" from all the wrong places
as such, the "Jagdeo" types will always be your king
but that's your right
Dave posted:Baseman posted:Dave posted:A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Rather than mekking us wuk so haaad, can you just post the link!
Baseman posted:
Dave posted:A hint of Charandass supporting PPP. Listen to Anil speech
Jagdeo speech had it also
wink wink ð
Rather than mekking us wuk so haaad, can you just post the link!
Donât have right now, but gon try to get it and cut it to Anil speech.
Here is a hint from Jagdeo .
And then the death blow was delivered to the PNC:
Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Also look carefully around 1:17 mins. The PNC sent their thug to pass by and intimidate Charandass. He should also be questioned.
He was also assaulted at 0:33 mins by the thug beside him. He should also be questioned. He was put in place to intimidate Charandass.
Look at Volda at 0:33 mins, did she also threatened him ?
yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
Ronan is a shameless Pig.
yuji22 posted:Ronan is a shameless Pig.
I would not call him a pig.
He is shameless. The world must see and listen to this video. Murderous PNC in action. Charandass made the correct decision to leave after the vote.
ksazma posted:yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
up till now y'all can't identify which "PNC" MP said such a vile thing
even though y'all readily ID'd Rajcoomarie's "wailing"
more truckloads of manure being deposited to stink up the place and drown Charandaas' dishonorable doings in generalized foulness
hmmmm?
yuji22 posted:He is shameless. The world must see and listen to this video. Murderous PNC in action. Charandass made the correct decision to leave after the vote.
Yuji, the PNC must have done some really bad things to you for acting this way. Unfortunately, I was overseas for most of their time in office, but I have a good sense of it from Andrew Morrison's book 'Justice'.
In 1980 during a visit, I was in disbelieve when my father could not buy two pounds of sugar at Albion, when sugar is manufactured right there.
When we face severe challenges in life by the actions of others, we need to find a way to cope and go forward, because those who caused our problem might not give a shit, but we might suffer the consequences.
ronan posted:ksazma posted:yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
up till now y'all can't identify which "PNC" MP said such a vile thing
even though y'all readily ID'd Rajcoomarie's "wailing"
more truckloads of manure being deposited to stink up the place and drown Charandaas' dishonorable doings in generalized foulness
hmmmm?
The video we saw is posted here. Take a look and see if you can identify who made the comment. Maybe you would have better luck than us.
ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
up till now y'all can't identify which "PNC" MP said such a vile thing
even though y'all readily ID'd Rajcoomarie's "wailing"
more truckloads of manure being deposited to stink up the place and drown Charandaas' dishonorable doings in generalized foulness
hmmmm?
The video we saw is posted here. Take a look and see if you can identify who made the comment. Maybe you would have better luck than us.
why should i do it . . . you're the one making the claim!
what kind of ass-backwards propaganda shyte you engaging in?
Tola posted:yuji22 posted:He is shameless. The world must see and listen to this video. Murderous PNC in action. Charandass made the correct decision to leave after the vote.
Yuji, the PNC must have done some really bad things to you for acting this way. Unfortunately, I was overseas for most of their time in office, but I have a good sense of it from Andrew Morrison's book 'Justice'.
In 1980 during a visit, I was in disbelieve when my father could not buy two pounds of sugar at Albion, when sugar is manufactured right there.
When we face severe challenges in life by the actions of others, we need to find a way to cope and go forward, because those who caused our problem might not give a shit, but we might suffer the consequences.
The first batch of PNC actions made life and living very difficult for many in Guyana. The great exodus began in the 70's. We come to the early 80s when there was hardly anything that people can buy. Ground provision farmers benefited tremendously from this hardship. In the midst of their thriving, you will realize that some people were eating plantains and cassava for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Some did not even have that. The folks in Berbice began getting rich on contraband stuff from Suriname. People from GT would go to Berbice to bring back flour and if they got caught with even a pound of flour, their vehicle would be confiscated. There were lots of cars rusting away in the police impound compound. Yet if you had the chance to go to Mckenzie, you would think you were in another country as their supermarket was well stocked. I knew a bakery family who one week was looking to buy a property on Sheriff street and the other week say they were leaving Guyana because of the lack of flour. Police bribery was rampant and kick down door banditry was an everyday occurrence. And that is just a small account of the challenges facing Guyanese back in the early 80s.
ronan posted:ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
up till now y'all can't identify which "PNC" MP said such a vile thing
even though y'all readily ID'd Rajcoomarie's "wailing"
more truckloads of manure being deposited to stink up the place and drown Charandaas' dishonorable doings in generalized foulness
hmmmm?
The video we saw is posted here. Take a look and see if you can identify who made the comment. Maybe you would have better luck than us.
why should i do it . . . you're the one making the claim!
what kind of ass-backwards propaganda shyte you engaging in?
Surely I made the claim. I am not losing any sleep over who said it. Since you seem to care, go right ahead finding out.
ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
up till now y'all can't identify which "PNC" MP said such a vile thing
even though y'all readily ID'd Rajcoomarie's "wailing"
more truckloads of manure being deposited to stink up the place and drown Charandaas' dishonorable doings in generalized foulness
hmmmm?
The video we saw is posted here. Take a look and see if you can identify who made the comment. Maybe you would have better luck than us.
why should i do it . . . you're the one making the claim!
what kind of ass-backwards propaganda shyte you engaging in?
Surely I made the claim. I am not losing any sleep over who said it. Since you seem to care, go right ahead finding out.
the 'logic' of the ignorant incoherent in full flowering
you've abandoned even the pretense of wearing underwear
pitiful
ronan posted:you've abandoned even the pretense of wearing underwear
pitiful
A sure clear sign that he are feeling defeated. Tek a lil break.
ksazma posted:ronan posted:the 'logic' of the ignorant incoherent in full flowering
you've abandoned even the pretense of wearing underwear
pitiful
A sure clear sign that he are feeling defeated. Tek a lil break.
what exactly is unclear about your "ignorant" incoherence that i need to explain further?
ronan posted:ksazma posted:ronan posted:the 'logic' of the ignorant incoherent in full flowering
you've abandoned even the pretense of wearing underwear
pitiful
A sure clear sign that he are feeling defeated. Tek a lil break.
what exactly is unclear about your "ignorant" incoherence that i need to explain further?
I don't remember asking you to explain anything. I make comments. You can either agree or not. It does not matter to me if you do or not.
ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:ronan posted:the 'logic' of the ignorant incoherent in full flowering
you've abandoned even the pretense of wearing underwear
pitiful
A sure clear sign that he are feeling defeated. Tek a lil break.
what exactly is unclear about your "ignorant" incoherence that i need to explain further?
I make comments. You can either agree or not. It does not matter to me if you do or not.
thanks Captain Obvious
ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:ronan posted:ksazma posted:yuji22 posted:Listen to around 1:38 mins. Some PNC thug said "Charandass you gun dead tonight"
Let us see if Ramjattan investigates the threat. If not, the PPP should in 2019 and send the person who uttered it to the gallows.
Ronan heart isn't broken by someone telling Charandas that he gun dead tonight. He is too teared up by Rajkoomarie's wailing to care.
up till now y'all can't identify which "PNC" MP said such a vile thing
even though y'all readily ID'd Rajcoomarie's "wailing"
more truckloads of manure being deposited to stink up the place and drown Charandaas' dishonorable doings in generalized foulness
hmmmm?
The video we saw is posted here. Take a look and see if you can identify who made the comment. Maybe you would have better luck than us.
why should i do it . . . you're the one making the claim!
what kind of ass-backwards propaganda shyte you engaging in?
Surely I made the claim. I am not losing any sleep over who said it. Since you seem to care, go right ahead finding out.
They wouldnât change.
Putting lipstick on a Pig is still a Pig.
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