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Minister’s son released without charge

June 27, 2013 | By | Filed Under News 

 

Robeson Benn Jr, the son of Works and Transport Minister Robeson Benn, has been released on his own recognisance by police even as they continue to probe allegations that he brutally assaulted his ex-girlfriend last Sunday. Kaieteur News understands that Benn Jr. who walked in to the police station on Tuesday, two days after the alleged incident, was released after spending a few hours at the East Ruimveldt Police Outpost. He had earlier given a statement to the police denying the allegations.

Robeson Benn Jr.

On Sunday the 27-year-old woman alleged that she was assaulted by the Minister’s son whom she claimed was brandishing a gun. A senior police source could not say if or when charges will be instituted against the young man. On Tuesday the Women and Gender Equality Commission expressed great concern over the police’s approach towards the matter. As an advocating body for gender equality and justice, the Commission charged, “Whoever, we don’t care at what level; if they have committed an unlawful act, they must feel the full force of the law.” Responding to questions about the police, who waited for Benn’s family to turn him in, the Commissioners were adamant that law enforcers need not wait and should be proactive in such matters. Renata Chuck-A-Sang continued that there are clear guidelines as to the functions of the police. She said that a lot of money has been spent on training police officers. The government has gone through much trouble to provide the governing legislation, she added. Vanda Radzik, representing women, added, “We cannot have the key enforcement agency under the Domestic Violence Act reneging on what are its clear duties.” She added that when the police do not act accordingly in these matters, they themselves are breaking the law, “it is a breach of the Constitution, it is a breach of the Act and it means the law is being broken.” Nicole Cole, Commissioner and member of the Rights of the Child, said that as it relates to rape and sexual offences, there is supposed to be a standard protocol within all police stations. She said these victims are supposed to be placed on PEP (Post-Exposure Prophylaxis), within 72 hours, which prevents HIV infections, and is applicable also in terms of other sexually transmitted diseases. While the police may seem to turn away persons or ask them to return at a later date, it was noted that this is one of the most important steps that must be taken by the police to ensure the safety of rape and sexual violence victims. Coupled with that, the Commissioners highlighted that one of the reasons the police charged that they could not see an excess of 60 percent of cases going to court was mainly for the lack of evidence and victims unwilling to testify against assailants. They however charged, when asked, that the police force needs to act accordingly in this regard. Every police station, they emphasized, is supposed to have a rape kit. The stations must be equipped and be able to deal with the particular matters in relation to their training. The Commissioners suggested that if official resources are not equipped to deal with the specified matters, then non-governmental agencies can be authorized to conduct basic or interim services so that access to justice could become a reality. They also said that in these particular matters concerning high profile persons, there should be a police investigative unit or autonomous body – to whom they plan to write stating their concerns and interest. The Commission urged too that members of the public do the same as to get the desired outcome when dealing with issues of rape and domestic violence.

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Who among us could not predict this outcome? We are fostering a culture of untouchables. The common street punk goes to jail for 3 years for a gram of mary jane and this serial abuser, accused rapist supposedly committing the act in possession of a firearm, walks!! What is this poor girl to do? It is clear she has not backup in the system where it should be!

 

And what the hell is this notion of special body for high profile pepople? What qualifdies one for high profile...being a serial abuser and accused rapist as this one or the fact he is a minister's son? The chief of police should never be confirmed for this job.

FM

This is the brutal story attached to this case.

 

Govt minister's son allegedly assaults ex-girlfriend

Govt minister's son allegedly assaults ex-girlfriend

 

The son of a government minister has allegedly assaulted his ex-girlfriend, leaving her with a swollen right eye and tender head just days before she had been due to give birth to their baby.

27-year old Vanisha Seenauth alleged that Robeson Benn Jr. barged into her home during the pre-dawn hours of Sunday when she opened the door and assaulted her.

Obviously traumatized by an abusive relationship, a crying Seenauth said that on hearing someone knock on the door she opened thinking that it was her brother whom she had been expecting. She said when her brother arrived later, she sent him away because she did not want him to see her face.

When told of the alleged occurrence, the younger Benn’s mother sounded quite distressed

 

 

Picture of first beating....

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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2012-11-23 @ 7:23:10 AM
Hello, I am quite surprised at some of the comments I’ve been seeing on this blog concerning Robeson Benn JR and his victim. Some people claim he’s not a violent boy, which is utterly untrue taking into consideration all the women he hit. But worse yet I see people commenting nastily of the young woman he beat up.

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

So another PPP hitman goes unpunished. The PPP has been claiming how the police are in the hand of the PNC. But as facts show, the PPP are the ones in control of the police.

where is basemabn on this.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

So another PPP hitman goes unpunished. The PPP has been claiming how the police are in the hand of the PNC. But as facts show, the PPP are the ones in control of the police.

where is basemabn on this.

 

The girl should get somebody to buy a gun for her and when he turns up again kill him. This is a Police Cover up. This is also a Political cover up.The Police and the Government pass all kinds of domestic violence laws. If they cannot enforce the law don't waste time and pass it to fool people for cheap polictical point. Remember what the alleged rapist said " If the Police charge him Rohee will lose his job. The alleged rapist is right. If Minister Robeson Benn can't look after he own pickney, how he gon look after Public Works. What is the position of the Minister responsible for Women's issues.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

So another PPP hitman goes unpunished. The PPP has been claiming how the police are in the hand of the PNC. But as facts show, the PPP are the ones in control of the police.

where is basemabn on this.

 

The girl should get somebody to buy a gun for her and when he turns up again kill him. This is a Police Cover up. This is also a Political cover up.The Police and the Government pass all kinds of domestic violence laws. If they cannot enforce the law don't waste time and pass it to fool people for cheap polictical point. Remember what the alleged rapist said " If the Police charge him Rohee will lose his job. The alleged rapist is right. If Minister Robeson Benn can't look after he own pickney, how he gon look after Public Works. What is the position of the Minister responsible for Women's issues.

former minista-in-charge priya venting on FaceBook bout how de girl family should beat he up . . . smh

FM

Is this really a political matter or a case of police taking bribe and dropping charges. Why does every incident in the nation have to run all the way up to ppp ministers. What the young lady needs to do now is bring a civil case against the bastard. It is the culture in Guyana to black up them eye and bruise up them knees when they get out of hand, this has to change but it will only happen when society becomes more aware and reject it as a norm.

Many of you naysayers should look in your own backyards and see the same situation in the US where assault cases are given lenient punishment and defendants are given bail or set free until a court date.

FM

I honestly beleive that all political strings should be cut and make Benn Jr a national example that no one is above the law. I was shocked when I read the news that he was released without charges. Ordinary citizens are being fined, put on bail, or jailed for a lessor crimes. Nigel Hughes took a bribe to turn a blind eye? I thought he was representing the victim.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Is this really a political matter or a case of police taking bribe and dropping charges. Why does every incident in the nation have to run all the way up to ppp ministers. What the young lady needs to do now is bring a civil case against the bastard. It is the culture in Guyana to black up them eye and bruise up them knees when they get out of hand, this has to change but it will only happen when society becomes more aware and reject it as a norm.

Many of you naysayers should look in your own backyards and see the same situation in the US where assault cases are given lenient punishment and defendants are given bail or set free until a court date.

Where are the outcries from the PPP about the police not doing its job? There are none, because the police were ordered by the PPP to let the PPP hitman Benn walk.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Is this really a political matter or a case of police taking bribe and dropping charges. Why does every incident in the nation have to run all the way up to ppp ministers. What the young lady needs to do now is bring a civil case against the bastard. It is the culture in Guyana to black up them eye and bruise up them knees when they get out of hand, this has to change but it will only happen when society becomes more aware and reject it as a norm.

Many of you naysayers should look in your own backyards and see the same situation in the US where assault cases are given lenient punishment and defendants are given bail or set free until a court date.

Where are the outcries from the PPP about the police not doing its job? There are none, because the police were ordered by the PPP to let the PPP hitman Benn walk.

Coounscie/Benn had to take a day off from posting on GNI while in custody. 

Mars
Originally Posted by Cobra:

I honestly beleive that all political strings should be cut and make Benn Jr a national example that no one is above the law. I was shocked when I read the news that he was released without charges. Ordinary citizens are being fined, put on bail, or jailed for a lessor crimes. Nigel Hughes took a bribe to turn a blind eye? I thought he was representing the victim.  

when i finally though you might be a human being you show people you still a snake i know there is no god in guyana

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
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Where are the outcries from the PPP about the police not doing its job? There are none, because the police were ordered by the PPP to let the PPP hitman Benn walk.


The govt has more important things to do than rush to appease you folks thirst for blood at every incident. Don't expect govt to jump everytime you deem a matter important for political purposes.

FM

These incidents are only minor things for the underlying causes of a country that is already in similar fashions to Liberia.

 

It is possible the governing party has in its capabilities the desires to waste ppl who causes them problems. What did Sadam Hussein sons did to his ppl. Even Khadafi sons.

 

That man Jagan saddled the country he stole from the British under false pretences wid the help of his fellow indoes. 

S
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

You consider beating a defenceless woman a political act??? You must be a barbaric wife beater if those are your moral values.

You consider it a political act since you indict the entire government based on the alleged action of one person who happens to be the son of a Minister. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

You consider beating a defenceless woman a political act??? You must be a barbaric wife beater if those are your moral values.

You consider it a political act since you indict the entire government based on the alleged action of one person who happens to be the son of a Minister. 

the police chief asks for a special body to "address high profile problems". I do not understand what he means but I guess it is code for the ruling class sense of entitlement is encouraged in the society and he cannot handle it given the political fall out. He wants an out.

 

I say, his ass should be in jail with no bail until a trial. This is not the first time he has beaten this woman. He supposedly kicked her in the stomach causeing her to have a miscarriage. Others are claiming he beat them also. He has abused a police woman calling her a bitch and telling her he is a ministers son and she could not do anything to him. He was right.

 

Therefore, this is political sludge. If young people can be thrown in the slammer for 1 gram of maryjane while those caught red handed with 40 Kg  of cocaine walk ( Mool Persaud et al) then the system is  gamed for the elites as the police chief suggests.

 

Further, the proof is in the pudding. A woman has her face beaten to a pulp and was raped,  she said, by an ex whom she identifies. On record is a previous beating and a stabbing that caused him to end up in the hospital. She said it was in a struggle to  allay a beating she was receiving at his hands. There is photographic evidence of her previous injuries as well. I do not know what else one need to get one arrested. Maybe Priya is right, she need to get her family to put a beating on his ass  It seems that is how we do justice at home.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:


The govt has more important things to do than rush to appease you folks thirst for blood at every incident. Don't expect govt to jump everytime you deem a matter important for political purposes.

Fair, sir.

At least, the Women's Progressive Organization [WPO], the female arm of the PPP, could have issued a statement expressing disapproval of young Benn's alleged battering of the woman. The WPO is customarily quick to speak out against domestic violence. The WPO's untypical silence on this particular act of abuse is deafening and puzzling, not so?

FM

this ppp government have turn guyana in a little hell a government without any standard were is rohee you mean to say that there is no government minister with a backbone to speak out against these act of lawlessness 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

the police chief asks for a special body to "address high profile problems". I do not understand what he means but I guess it is code for the ruling class sense of entitlement is encouraged in the society and he cannot handle it given the political fall out. He wants an out.

 

I say, his ass should be in jail with no bail until a trial. This is not the first time he has beaten this woman. He supposedly kicked her in the stomach causeing her to have a miscarriage. Others are claiming he beat them also. He has abused a police woman calling her a bitch and telling her he is a ministers son and she could not do anything to him. He was right.

 

Therefore, this is political sludge. If young people can be thrown in the slammer for 1 gram of maryjane while those caught red handed with 40 Kg  of cocaine walk ( Mool Persaud et al) then the system is  gamed for the elites as the police chief suggests.

 

Further, the proof is in the pudding. A woman has her face beaten to a pulp and was raped,  she said, by an ex whom she identifies. On record is a previous beating and a stabbing that caused him to end up in the hospital. She said it was in a struggle to  allay a beating she was receiving at his hands. There is photographic evidence of her previous injuries as well. I do not know what else one need to get one arrested. Maybe Priya is right, she need to get her family to put a beating on his ass  It seems that is how we do justice at home.

Again, I refer you to the police leadership, Brummel and his direct reports. Why did you bypass them for accountability and go all the way up to the PPP leadership? No one is refuting that the woman was abused, however what we want to understand is why the police are not doing their jobs of bringing charges against this person. Your assumption is that this person is given preferential treatment due to his political affiliation. I take it a step further and claim that it is a nationwide affliction where women are battered at will by the males in their lives and the police does nothing. Solving the wider problem is more important than concentrating on the political issue. 

FM

The hypocrisy of some advocacy groups

JUNE 28, 2013 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

 

 

Dear Editor,
The hypocrisy of some women’s right organization is just inexplicable.  There is a certain domestic abuse advocacy group called the Caribbean American Domestic Violence Awareness (CADVA) with members such as Anand Budram, Dianne Madray and Sukree Boodram who all and sundry would want to support since their mission is to provide a safe environment for individuals combat domestic violence.  Noble objective indeed!
No human being will have any problem with that since they are supposed to fight a plague called domestic violence in the Caribbean especially Guyana.  What really bothers me is how these PPP satellites can choose to press some abusers and cut others much slack.
Unfortunately the issue of domestic violence does not give us the latitude to pick and choose. This is not politics; this is life and death for the victims.
In March 2013, when member of the AFC Charandass Persaud made disparaging remarks about a certain female doctor, Ms. Diane Madray, a CADVA member on her Facebook page claimed that she is “outraged and … certainly hope that the AFC executives apologise… as it is an attack on all women”.
She was quite in order to demand an apology from Mr. Persaud to which he thoughtfully did soon after the transgression.  Great work on that issue CADVA!
But to my grave disappointment, today with photographic and documentary evidence at their disposal and an alleged accusation against Mr. Robeson Benn Jnr, the son of a Minister of the PPP Government for rape, physical and mental abuse of a country girl from Essequibo, this same CADVA issued a totally different statement.  In this case this is worst by indescribable magnitudes; CADVA extends their “thoughts and prayers for Miss Vanisha Seenauth as she is attempting to recover physically and emotionally from the attack by her alleged abuser, Robeson Benn Jr.”
No outrage from Ms Madray or Ms Boodram or Mr. Budram; no demand for justice from these so called domestic abuse advocates, no firm condemnation of these alleged multiple acts of domestic terror against this young lady even though the picture of the victim is all over the world now with her “bloodshot eyes”.
It really sickens my stomach when an organization takes funds from donors to do work in areas that the world really need help, but chooses to protect political godfathers when the oppressor and domestic terrorist is allegedly a son of one of their god fathers.
Shame on CADVA!
Further, I hear nothing from the PPP- women’s arm the WPO, the AFC women’s arm the WFC, or the PNC women’s arm the WRSM.  Where is Red Thread, the Rights of the Child Organisation, the Amerindian People’s Association, the Guyana Human Right Association and all these organizations that were set up to protect our women and those who had their rights violated?  Where is Gail Teixeira, Indra Chandarpal, Cathy Hughes, Debra Backer and all these women?  What happen to the new charm of the PPP and newly minted President of the Guyana Hindu Dharmic Sabha, Ms Vindya Persaud?  What happened to First Lady Deolatchmie Ramotar? Has women’s right fallen off the map for them because the alleged perpetrator is one of their own? How can I respect them ever again?
Guyana is really a sad place when these princelings of the PPP can pull gun, break people’s limbs and now they have moved into a different zone with these allegation of rape and brutalization of an extreme magnitude.
But what is worst is the hypocrisy from the established women right’s group on this issue.
This child could have been by daughter.  Shame on you women of Guyana!
Munish Jayaram

Mars
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

the police chief asks for a special body to "address high profile problems". I do not understand what he means but I guess it is code for the ruling class sense of entitlement is encouraged in the society and he cannot handle it given the political fall out. He wants an out.

 

I say, his ass should be in jail with no bail until a trial. This is not the first time he has beaten this woman. He supposedly kicked her in the stomach causeing her to have a miscarriage. Others are claiming he beat them also. He has abused a police woman calling her a bitch and telling her he is a ministers son and she could not do anything to him. He was right.

 

Therefore, this is political sludge. If young people can be thrown in the slammer for 1 gram of maryjane while those caught red handed with 40 Kg  of cocaine walk ( Mool Persaud et al) then the system is  gamed for the elites as the police chief suggests.

 

Further, the proof is in the pudding. A woman has her face beaten to a pulp and was raped,  she said, by an ex whom she identifies. On record is a previous beating and a stabbing that caused him to end up in the hospital. She said it was in a struggle to  allay a beating she was receiving at his hands. There is photographic evidence of her previous injuries as well. I do not know what else one need to get one arrested. Maybe Priya is right, she need to get her family to put a beating on his ass  It seems that is how we do justice at home.

Again, I refer you to the police leadership, Brummel and his direct reports. Why did you bypass them for accountability and go all the way up to the PPP leadership? No one is refuting that the woman was abused, however what we want to understand is why the police are not doing their jobs of bringing charges against this person. Your assumption is that this person is given preferential treatment due to his political affiliation. I take it a step further and claim that it is a nationwide affliction where women are battered at will by the males in their lives and the police does nothing. Solving the wider problem is more important than concentrating on the political issue. 

this problem is world wide you can try this shit in canada

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

Fair, sir.

At least, the Women's Progressive Organization [WPO], the female arm of the PPP, could have issued a statement expressing disapproval of young Benn's alleged battering of the woman. The WPO is customarily quick to speak out against domestic violence. The WPO's untypical silence on this particular act of abuse is deafening and puzzling, not so?

What I know is that a person is innocent until proven guilty. The WPO would be remiss on jumping on the bandwagon of bashers when the case is not even proven. For all we know the young woman could have set this entire affair up at the behest of the AFC/pnc. The law has to take its course. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

Fair, sir.

At least, the Women's Progressive Organization [WPO], the female arm of the PPP, could have issued a statement expressing disapproval of young Benn's alleged battering of the woman. The WPO is customarily quick to speak out against domestic violence. The WPO's untypical silence on this particular act of abuse is deafening and puzzling, not so?

What I know is that a person is innocent until proven guilty. The WPO would be remiss on jumping on the bandwagon of bashers when the case is not even proven. For all we know the young woman could have set this entire affair up at the behest of the AFC/pnc. The law has to take its course. 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case

Looks like Zimmerman will walk within two weeks.  Case over, that 19 yr old illiterate state star witness handed it to the defense.

FM
Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:

That can't happen. If he walks there will be nationwide riots. Remember Rodney King. In this case someone died.

It has to be on the merits.  I don't say Zimmerman is not guilty of anything, but he may walk in 2nd degree, which means he walk.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case. 

which law guyana have one of those

FM
Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:

Zimmermann killed a man and everyone knows this, he will have to face the consequences despite all the legal niceities.

What you mean?  From what I see thus far, Zimmerman is mounting a good "self defense" case.  Sound to me like the prosecutor selling out the case calling witnesses who corroborate Zimmerman's position.  What a disaster.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case

Looks like Zimmerman will walk within two weeks.  Case over, that 19 yr old illiterate state star witness handed it to the defense.

At the end of the proceedings, there will be a decision.

 

However, individuals do have their personal views.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case. 

Okay, I'm now presuming the fellow's innocence.

Looking at Benn's ex-girlfriend Vanisha Seenauth's face in that photo from this standpoint, I am left to pronounce that a UFO gave her the black eye.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case. 

Okay, I'm now presuming the fellow's innocence.

Looking at Benn's ex-girlfriend Vanisha Seenauth's face in that photo from this standpoint, I am left to pronounce that a UFO gave her the black eye.

There are 3/4 million people in Guyana, pick anyone of them then move on to UFO. You keep missing the point, everyone is entitled to due process. Even thought it appears that Benn was the culprit, we can not assemble a lynch mob without a trial. Even the worst criminal is afforded a trial.  The black eye is a simple assault, it happens everyday in the US and people are not even arrested.   

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Is this really a political matter or a case of police taking bribe and dropping charges. Why does every incident in the nation have to run all the way up to ppp ministers. What the young lady needs to do now is bring a civil case against the bastard. It is the culture in Guyana to black up them eye and bruise up them knees when they get out of hand, this has to change but it will only happen when society becomes more aware and reject it as a norm.

Many of you naysayers should look in your own backyards and see the same situation in the US where assault cases are given lenient punishment and defendants are given bail or set free until a court date.

If something happen more than once then one may cautiously hint at a pattern of behavior. When it is so much familiar, ie the sun coming up in the morning then it is predictable in science and society it constitute a practice.

 

It is clearly a matter of the expectations of the society from the privileged untouchable class created by the PPP . Ramotar’s son, Repu’s son, Nanda’s son too privileges no less in their serious criminal infractions before the state.

 

If the young lady could not get acknowledgement in  a criminal case and the young man walked despite the serious accusation of rape and aggravated assault while in possession of a fire arm, do you think she stand much of a chance otherwise in a system not geared for civil suits?

 

How can the society take back its authority if not rescinding the authority of the PPP? I think you would not want that. Preventing that  is the reason you are here making the devils bargain daily and lying your ass off on their account.

 

In the US there are systems in place to address the issue or rape. Ask those indo boys who are ending up in Rikers or put out of their homes on account of abusing ( even verbally) their wife . No one is suggesting that there are not too many of these cases presenting but victims are not subjected to systematic neglect and political abused when they complain.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

The law has apparently already taken its course because the alleged batterer has been released.

Maybe you need to find out why he was released, already you pronounced this fellow guilty based on news reports. While we may have opinions as to innocence or guilt, we need to let the law take its course as we see with the Trayvon Martin case

Looks like Zimmerman will walk within two weeks.  Case over, that 19 yr old illiterate state star witness handed it to the defense.

I would not call you an illiterate but your ability to reason from a definite input is clearly wacky. There is no evidence that the young woman is illiterate. As a matter of fact she is literate in three languages and English is clearly not her first language.

 

If Zimmerman walks is not because anything in this young woman’s demeanor, intellect  or retelling of a story intimate her has been compromise despite being 4 hours on the stand and facing down hostile and withering cross examination.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

If something happen more than once then one may cautiously hint at a pattern of behavior. When it is so much familiar, ie the sun coming up in the morning then it is predictable in science and society it constitute a practice.

 

It is clearly a matter of the expectations of the society from the privileged untouchable class created by the PPP . Ramotar’s son, Repu’s son, Nanda’s son too privileges no less in their serious criminal infractions before the state.

 

If the young lady could not get acknowledgement in  a criminal case and the young man walked despite the serious accusation of rape and aggravated assault while in possession of a fire arm, do you think she stand much of a chance otherwise in a system not geared for civil suits?

 

How can the society take back its authority if not rescinding the authority of the PPP? I think you would not want that. Preventing that  is the reason you are here making the devils bargain daily and lying your ass off on their account.

 

In the US there are systems in place to address the issue or rape. Ask those indo boys who are ending up in Rikers or put out of their homes on account of abusing ( even verbally) their wife . No one is suggesting that there are not too many of these cases presenting but victims are not subjected to systematic neglect and political abused when they complain.

You have to be joking, in the US men abuse their spouse and the police don't even hold them overnight, they walk in a few hours and show up in family court a week later. Don't try to hold up the US as a shining star of women's rights. Canada is much more rigorous in this type of crime.  It is a case of assault with questionable rape allegations. Don't know the laws of Guyana that well but it seems that the police did not have enough evidence to hold the man, not even an eyewitness. It was a he said she said story. The black eye is evidence of abuse but in no way shows that it was perpetrated by the suspect. It is circumstantial evidence at most. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

If something happen more than once then one may cautiously hint at a pattern of behavior. When it is so much familiar, ie the sun coming up in the morning then it is predictable in science and society it constitute a practice.

 

It is clearly a matter of the expectations of the society from the privileged untouchable class created by the PPP . Ramotar’s son, Repu’s son, Nanda’s son too privileges no less in their serious criminal infractions before the state.

 

If the young lady could not get acknowledgement in  a criminal case and the young man walked despite the serious accusation of rape and aggravated assault while in possession of a fire arm, do you think she stand much of a chance otherwise in a system not geared for civil suits?

 

How can the society take back its authority if not rescinding the authority of the PPP? I think you would not want that. Preventing that  is the reason you are here making the devils bargain daily and lying your ass off on their account.

 

In the US there are systems in place to address the issue or rape. Ask those indo boys who are ending up in Rikers or put out of their homes on account of abusing ( even verbally) their wife . No one is suggesting that there are not too many of these cases presenting but victims are not subjected to systematic neglect and political abused when they complain.

You have to be joking, in the US men abuse their spouse and the police don't even hold them overnight, they walk in a few hours and show up in family court a week later. Don't try to hold up the US as a shining star of women's rights. Canada is much more rigorous in this type of crime.  It is a case of assault with questionable rape allegations. Don't know the laws of Guyana that well but it seems that the police did not have enough evidence to hold the man, not even an eyewitness. It was a he said she said story. The black eye is evidence of abuse but in no way shows that it was perpetrated by the suspect. It is circumstantial evidence at most. 

you waste my time with various and sundry non sequiturs. This form of argument is the sister of hasty generalization; over generalization. Because it happens in the good old USOFA it cannot be wrong for it to happen in Guyana. Well, the release of this serial abuser for the umpteenth time is a travesty in the law and emerges from the unaccountability of the elites. It is the reason the Chief of Police stupidly suggests that maybe we need a specially constituted body to deal with "high profile persons". Like you he is mad and a dunce.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

you waste my time with various and sundry non sequiturs. This form of argument is the sister of hasty generalization; over generalization. Because it happens in the good old USOFA it cannot be wrong for it to happen in Guyana. Well, the release of this serial abuser for the umpteenth time is a travesty in the law and emerges from the unaccountability of the elites. It is the reason the Chief of Police stupidly suggests that maybe we need a specially constituted body to deal with "high profile persons". Like you he is mad and a dunce.

hahaha, you were the one who brought the US into the conversation, holding it up as a knight in shining armor until I deflated your balloon. 

I don't know that this man is guilty of the crime, I may have an opinion to his guilt but given the afc/pnc's track record of staging situations, most recently the Amerindian kids fetching firewood. 

 

If indeed you and the court of public opinion were the final arbiter of guilt and innocence then we wouldn't the courts would we? Let the law take its course and stop passing judgement from your armchair in the West.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

you waste my time with various and sundry non sequiturs. This form of argument is the sister of hasty generalization; over generalization. Because it happens in the good old USOFA it cannot be wrong for it to happen in Guyana. Well, the release of this serial abuser for the umpteenth time is a travesty in the law and emerges from the unaccountability of the elites. It is the reason the Chief of Police stupidly suggests that maybe we need a specially constituted body to deal with "high profile persons". Like you he is mad and a dunce.

hahaha, you were the one who brought the US into the conversation, holding it up as a knight in shining armor until I deflated your balloon. 

I don't know that this man is guilty of the crime, I may have an opinion to his guilt but given the afc/pnc's track record of staging situations, most recently the Amerindian kids fetching firewood. 

 

If indeed you and the court of public opinion were the final arbiter of guilt and innocence then we wouldn't the courts would we? Let the law take its course and stop passing judgement from your armchair in the West.  

 

These are your words knuckle head "Many of you naysayers should look in your own backyards and see the same situation in the US where assault cases are given lenient punishment and defendants are given bail or set free until a court date." I am responding to that. You are introducing the US as your evidence that this can be tolerable so any balloons to be deflated would more likely be your head.

 

No one is saying this gentleman should not get his day. That he is left to his own and not held on bail etc means he is not considered to have done anything worthy of concern in the eye of the law. That is what infuriates those of us who see this as another plague on our society, "preferential treatment before the law".

 

For one who celebrates the extrajudicial practices of Jagdeo you need to be speaking to your own conscience about letting the legal system work. But as usual, you are an inconsistent twit.

 

I am allowed to pass judgement as a thinking being with a moral framework from which to look at the world. The PPP are not special in any way except as crooks.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 

No one is saying this gentleman should not get his day. That he is left to his own and not held on bail etc means he is not considered to have done anything worthy of concern in the eye of the law. That is what infuriates those of us who see this as another plague on our society, "preferential treatment before the law".

 

For one who celebrates the extrajudicial practices of Jagdeo you need to be speaking to your own conscience about letting the legal system work. But as usual, you are an inconsistent twit.

 

I am allowed to pass judgement as a thinking being with a moral framework from which to look at the world. The PPP are not special in any way except as crooks.

 As a person with an alleged black kid, you should sympathize with Benn, especially if he was setup by the woman's Indo relatives. It is known that Indians view a Black man with an Indian woman as the ultimate disgrace worthy of a honor killing. Who is to say that the Indian relatives didn't black and blue the woman's eye and blame it on Benn, a black man?

 

Your hatred of the PPP have clouded your judgment once again as you fall for the traps set by the Indos and are willing to circumvent the rule of law in your thirst for blood. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 

No one is saying this gentleman should not get his day. That he is left to his own and not held on bail etc means he is not considered to have done anything worthy of concern in the eye of the law. That is what infuriates those of us who see this as another plague on our society, "preferential treatment before the law".

 

For one who celebrates the extrajudicial practices of Jagdeo you need to be speaking to your own conscience about letting the legal system work. But as usual, you are an inconsistent twit.

 

I am allowed to pass judgement as a thinking being with a moral framework from which to look at the world. The PPP are not special in any way except as crooks.

 As a person with an alleged black kid, you should sympathize with Benn, especially if he was setup by the woman's Indo relatives. It is known that Indians view a Black man with an Indian woman as the ultimate disgrace worthy of a honor killing. Who is to say that the Indian relatives didn't black and blue the woman's eye and blame it on Benn, a black man?

 

Your hatred of the PPP have clouded your judgment once again as you fall for the traps set by the Indos and are willing to circumvent the rule of law in your thirst for blood. 

You need to check your habits to investigate if some particular ingredient you consume is making you into an idiot. Why would the cultural designation of my child urges sympathy for a clearly defective human being? Your racial slip showing here again and it is your mental defect to which assumes everything is parsed in terms of race and  that even morality is subservient to it.

 

I do not know that in Guyana any Indian has pursued their child to the point of death in any honor code. You are imagining shit. Hindus came and immediately began "consorting with the negresse.s"  is re recounting of the first to do a serious study of indentureship. Scoble. He was speaking to the first arrivals on the Hersperus.

 

Let me remind you, some 86 percent of the Indians who came were out-castes...untouchables. Any idea of they were compelled to take positions based on their superior cultural notions are farcical. These are recent occurrences, a recasting based on our political alignment coerced by the British and heavily invested in by subsequent politicians.

 

The young woman experienced the beatings; more than once, reported this more than once, sought counsel more than once and now you have the gall to say she and her relatives concocted the whole thing? That man is a scumbag and you trying to concoct excuse to explain  why he walks despite reports of grievous criminal behavior inclusive of rape and use of a fire arm in the process is truly despicable.

 

But let me reiterate; you have no moral center and is an idiot. Whatever this crooked PPP government does is available for any convenient excuse you can invent and your are dumb enough to think we should believe it. Well we are not of your moral vacuousness and increasingly very few reach for the received wisdom of the gods in the PPP. Mose now conclude that they are the devil disciples and represent all that is reprehensible and morally corrupt.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 

The young woman experienced the beatings; more than once, reported this more than once, sought counsel more than once and now you have the gall to say she and her relatives concocted the whole thing? That man is a scumbag and you trying to concoct excuse to explain  why he walks despite reports of grievous criminal behavior inclusive of rape and use of a fire arm in the process is truly despicable.

 

 

The woman also dropped charges more than once hence the police's reluctance to take her seriously.  You are looking for blood in the wrong place. The only reason this story made headlines is because it was adopted  by the afc trying to milk the misfortune of this young lady for all the political hay they can make.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 

The young woman experienced the beatings; more than once, reported this more than once, sought counsel more than once and now you have the gall to say she and her relatives concocted the whole thing? That man is a scumbag and you trying to concoct excuse to explain  why he walks despite reports of grievous criminal behavior inclusive of rape and use of a fire arm in the process is truly despicable.

 

 

The woman also dropped charges more than once hence the police's reluctance to take her seriously.  You are looking for blood in the wrong place. The only reason this story made headlines is because it was adopted  by the afc trying to milk the misfortune of this young lady for all the political hay they can make.

I am not a follower. The AFC are not my life coach. I am responsible for what I say and I say this is a horrible serial abuser who needs to be brought to justice.

 

Note also the AFC has been silent on this issue. One of the things one notes in  corrupt societies is that there is an incestuous behavior among its elites and their intersecting relationships sometimes coerces a willful neglect to address many salient issues.  If something does not get appropriate  political mileage it  does not get attention. The AFC has been missing from this story as I noted elsewhere.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

'Danyael" it seems wants a pound of flesh from the issue, and cheap political points, the matter has been referred to the DPP for advice,he/she needs to hold their horses.

why a case like this have to go to the DPP NO WONDER guyana is a third and forth  world country let the police do their job the lady make a report she have a med record so let the court decide this is a every day case around the world and the police do what they have to do not taking a simple case to the DPP for advice

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

"Warrior" do yourself a favor, and read up on the functions of the Director of Public  Persecutions (D.P.P)

i know the function of the DDP AND IN THIS CASE ITS A WASTE OF TIME and in simple words BULLSHIT in any other country he would have been charge and already facing the courts and let me tell you about the canadian law as soon as she make a report like this to the police it out of her hands she  cannot drop the case it turn into a police case 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

'Danyael" it seems wants a pound of flesh from the issue, and cheap political points, the matter has been referred to the DPP for advice,he/she needs to hold their horses.

I want his ass in to answer the piper. If that is cheap to this crooked system then one knows the expensive part...he gets a pass and goes on to repeat his serial abusive behavior.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

"Warrior" do yourself a favor, and read up on the functions of the Director of Public  Persecutions (D.P.P)

It is an investment of too much power in one person and while it may not be in her nature to be corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Each district should have its public prosecutor and it should be an earned position ie work in the field as a trial lawyer and respect of peers. The People need to appoint him or her. The post should not be held by an appointed hack.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I am not a follower. The AFC are not my life coach. I am responsible for what I say and I say this is a horrible serial abuser who needs to be brought to justice.

 

Note also the AFC has been silent on this issue. One of the things one notes in  corrupt societies is that there is an incestuous behavior among its elites and their intersecting relationships sometimes coerces a willful neglect to address many salient issues.  If something does not get appropriate  political mileage it  does not get attention. The AFC has been missing from this story as I noted elsewhere.

Maybe the AFC/PNC are silent because it is a police matter and not a political one? In fact it is the AFC/PNC agents in the police that are responsible for bringing charges, you conveniently gave them a pass in your attempt to make this a political matter. 

FM

Here d2, you claim that US have laws in place to protect against abuse and that Guyana's incident with Benn was politically motivated.

Why then is 50Cents a free man?

 

Alleged victim in 50 Cent's domestic violence case is model, actress

By Michael Martinez and Matthew Carey, CNN
updated 6:54 PM EDT, Fri July 5, 2013
Rapper Curtis '50 Cent' Jackson.
Rapper Curtis '50 Cent' Jackson.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Rapper 50 Cent riffs on Twitter about what he's doing while "I'm not in jail"
  • The alleged victim releases her name through attorneys: Daphne Joy
  • The Philippine-born actress had a part in "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides"
  • She has a baby with 50 Cent, aka Curtis Jackson, now accused of kicking her

Los Angeles (CNN) -- The Los Angeles woman whom rapper 50 Cent is accused of kicking in a domestic violence incident is a model and an actress who had a part in a "Pirates of the Caribbean" film, her representative told CNN Friday.

Daphne Joy, who was born in the Philippines, has a baby by the rapper and is now focusing on safety for the child and herself, said Jim Yeager, a spokesman for the Los Angeles law firm of Meyer, Olson, Lowy & Meyers, which is representing her.

The alleged victim, whose name wasn't earlier disclosed by authorities, released her name Friday through Yeager.

Joy played a principal mermaid in 2011's "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides." She's also had roles on TV's "CSI: Las Vegas," "Criminal Minds," "Curb Your Enthusiasm," and "Wild 'N Out," her website says.

50 Cent's real name is Curtis Jackson. The 37-year-old is facing one count of domestic violence and four counts of vandalism.

"Daphne Joy and Curtis Jackson have been together for a few years in an exclusive relationship," said a statement by the law firm. "They had a child and now Daphne's number one priority is to ensure both her and the baby's safety during this difficult time. We also hope everyone will respect her and the baby's privacy."

This week, however, Los Angeles City Attorney Mike Feuer's office described Joy as "a former girlfriend" of Curtis. The alleged victim "had previously been in a three-year relationship with Jackson," the city prosecutor's office said.

Jackson denies the allegations, said his attorney, Scott Leemon.

"It is important to note, Mr. Jackson has not been arrested and there is no warrant outstanding for his arrest," Leemon said. "We have been in contact with the LA City Attorney's Office and are currently conducting our own investigation into these allegations."

Jackson is accused of ransacking Joy's bedroom during an argument at her Los Angeles condo last month. Joy lives in the city's Toluca Lake neighborhood.

Joy alleges she was injured when Jackson kicked her on June 23, the city attorney said.

Authorities allege Jackson caused $7,100 in damaged property and left the scene before police arrived.

"During an argument, Jackson allegedly began destroying the female's property," the city prosecutor's office said in a written statement. "Allegedly when the female locked herself in her bedroom, Jackson kicked open the bedroom door and kicked her, causing an injury."

Police found broken chandeliers and furniture throughout the home. The bedroom closet was ransacked, with clothes thrown all over the floor, and there was a broken television and lamp, the prosecutor's office said.

Jackson's arraignment is set for July 22 at Van Nuys Superior Court.

If convicted on all five counts, he would face up to five years in jail and $46,000 in fines.

On Twitter, the rapper has appeared to give a lighthearted response to the accusations. On Friday, he shared a series of photos of himself lounging around with playful captions such as, "I'm not in jail I'm by my pool," and, "I'm not in jail I'm on my Gucci couc

FM

THis fellow is facing five years for kicking his girlfriend. The Minister's son pistol whipped his ex and raped her and he walked. I do not see a comparison here. Further, this girl will be walking away with a couple of hundreds of millions of dollars if they split since she gets a significant portion of his money plus support for their kids. The two situations are completely different.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:

THis fellow is facing five years for kicking his girlfriend. The Minister's son pistol whipped his ex and raped her and he walked. I do not see a comparison here. Further, this girl will be walking away with a couple of hundreds of millions of dollars if they split since she gets a significant portion of his money plus support for their kids. The two situations are completely different.

Alleged pistol whip and rape, or did you already tried and convicted him?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:

THis fellow is facing five years for kicking his girlfriend. The Minister's son pistol whipped his ex and raped her and he walked. I do not see a comparison here. Further, this girl will be walking away with a couple of hundreds of millions of dollars if they split since she gets a significant portion of his money plus support for their kids. The two situations are completely different.

Alleged pistol whip and rape, or did you already tried and convicted him?

Is not an alleged "kicking" that has the chap above on charges?

FM

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