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If it is in the Chronicle, it's government propaganda.
If it is in the Chronicle, it's government propaganda.
HEHEHEHE YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH THEN GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
I wouldn't pay this article too much mind. The winds of change are coming.
And it's about time too.
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
I wouldn't pay this article too much mind. The winds of change are coming.
And it's about time too.
iF WAS THE nEW nATION YOU WOULD RUN ON THE ROAD AND sCREM ;rEAD ALL ABOUT IT"
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
Hello DUNCE, did you read the Article, no cause first to have to learn to read, then be able to understand and finally grow a brain. DUMB ASS(Dat is how to use CAPS)
I wouldn't pay this article too much mind. The winds of change are coming.
And it's about time too.
iF WAS THE nEW nATION YOU WOULD RUN ON THE ROAD AND sCREM ;rEAD ALL ABOUT IT"
Be quite. It is time for the dawning of a new era.
I wouldn't pay this article too much mind. The winds of change are coming.
And it's about time too.
iF WAS THE nEW nATION YOU WOULD RUN ON THE ROAD AND sCREM ;rEAD ALL ABOUT IT"
Be quite. It is time for the dawning of a new era.
May 12th starts a new Era of a Majority PPP Govt that will take Guyana to the Moon and beyond. HIP HIP HOORAY!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!!
YUh want Rice Flour or Wheat Flour, the choice is yours.
YUh want Logies or Big Houses, the choice is yours.
LET PROGRESS AND PROSPERITY CONTINUES WITH A FASTER RATE COME MAY 12TH. ppp ppp ppp
Why doesn't the PPP resume its screams that "we have a right to teif, even if de Jagan pickney don't like it!"?
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
Hello DUNCE, did you read the Article, no cause first to have to learn to read, then be able to understand and finally grow a brain. DUMB ASS(Dat is how to use CAPS)
i read the so-called "article" . . . desperate speculation predicated on wishful thinking and ass smoke
how about u?
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
Hello DUNCE, did you read the Article, no cause first to have to learn to read, then be able to understand and finally grow a brain. DUMB ASS(Dat is how to use CAPS)
i read the so-called "article" . . . desperate speculation predicated on wishful thinking and ass smoke
how about u?
Since when the Leader of a coalition cant speak on behalf of the coalition??? Since when he is only allowed to speak for his Party and self??? I dont know if you ever attended School or you does rely on common sense but I ask a simple question : Do you see anything wrong with dat picture"??
There was never any progress or prosperity. those benefited were family and friends, cheered on by a few overseas groupies like you.
These are not the days of old, you're stuck way back in time in the rice flour and long line age. You need to wake up. Hopefully, the winds of change will blow your sorry ass to the nearest Travel span office where you would FINALLY book a ticket to the new Guyana.
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
Hello DUNCE, did you read the Article, no cause first to have to learn to read, then be able to understand and finally grow a brain. DUMB ASS(Dat is how to use CAPS)
i read the so-called "article" . . . desperate speculation predicated on wishful thinking and ass smoke
how about u?
Since when the Leader of a coalition cant speak on behalf of the coalition??? Since when he is only allowed to speak for his Party and self??? I dont know if you ever attended School or you does rely on common sense but I ask a simple question : Do you see anything wrong with dat picture"??
This is a political coalition not a merger
the 2 parties retain their distinct identities
there is no "allowed" here . . . when Granger, Moses, or Khemraj speak on behalf of the coalition, they will tell u so
arite?
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
Hello DUNCE, did you read the Article, no cause first to have to learn to read, then be able to understand and finally grow a brain. DUMB ASS(Dat is how to use CAPS)
i read the so-called "article" . . . desperate speculation predicated on wishful thinking and ass smoke
how about u?
Since when the Leader of a coalition cant speak on behalf of the coalition??? Since when he is only allowed to speak for his Party and self??? I dont know if you ever attended School or you does rely on common sense but I ask a simple question : Do you see anything wrong with dat picture"??
This is a political coalition not a merger
the 2 parties retain their distinct identities
there is no "allowed" here . . . when Granger, Moses, or Khemraj speak on behalf of the coalition, they will tell u so
arite?
Bullcrap!!! This will be the first Goat with two heads!!!
There was never any progress or prosperity. those benefited were family and friends, cheered on by a few overseas groupies like you.
These are not the days of old, you're stuck way back in time in the rice flour and long line age. You need to wake up. Hopefully, the winds of change will blow your sorry ass to the nearest Travel span office where you would FINALLY book a ticket to the new Guyana.
Tell me exactly what, why, how it will be different this time ??
look how alyuh PPP idiots sucking wind . . . clutching at straws
lol
yOU EVER LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE idiot AND fool you arE??? i GUESS NOT stupid!!!
oi, antiman hore, is it Sunday marnin likker or u ain't figure how to use "Capslock" properly yet?
Hello DUNCE, did you read the Article, no cause first to have to learn to read, then be able to understand and finally grow a brain. DUMB ASS(Dat is how to use CAPS)
i read the so-called "article" . . . desperate speculation predicated on wishful thinking and ass smoke
how about u?
Since when the Leader of a coalition cant speak on behalf of the coalition??? Since when he is only allowed to speak for his Party and self??? I dont know if you ever attended School or you does rely on common sense but I ask a simple question : Do you see anything wrong with dat picture"??
This is a political coalition not a merger
the 2 parties retain their distinct identities
there is no "allowed" here . . . when Granger, Moses, or Khemraj speak on behalf of the coalition, they will tell u so
arite?
Bullcrap!!! This will be the first Goat with two heads!!!
coming up empty as usual . . . heh heh heh
the Chronicle is in its voter suppression mode. It is doing its best to create distractions fir the voter and generate the air that the PNC is crooked and the Alliance is unstable.
This is a political coalition not a merger
the 2 parties retain their distinct identities
there is no "allowed" here . . . when Granger, Moses, or Khemraj speak on behalf of the coalition, they will tell u so
arite?
The reality is that there is little ideological difference in the how the three major parties have towards their guiding philosophy towards economic development. In all cases it will be private sector led, with foreign investment encouraged.
The question is the execution of this philosophy. The PPP are tired, vicious, nasty, corrupt and arrogant and blatant in the fact that they pursue a narrow agenda of poorly executed projects aimed at enriching their small group.
We have no idea what APNU AFC will actually do. What we do know is that, as a new governing entity, they will be less entrenched than is the PPP, and so will not get away with the crimes that the PPP routinely commits.
So I really don't care that APNU and the AFC might still be negotiating the fine print. The reality is that what they will do will be a function of what they find after the PPP is ousted. We will expect to hear of revelations of billions of dollars of contractual obligations forced upon Guyana by the criminals who negotiated bad deals. We will hear that the financial position of entities like Guysuco will be far worse than we are told. And the treasury might be less flush than we have been led to believe.
So I await the SPECIFIC details a few weeks after the coalition walks in and discovers the nightmare which the PPP have left for Guyana.
the Chronicle is in its voter suppression mode. It is doing its best to create distractions fir the voter and generate the air that the PNC is crooked and the Alliance is unstable.
Again singing to the choir. Those who still look to the Chronicle for news are going to vote PPP any way. Ditto for the Guyana Times.
The only thing that will save the PPP at this time is if they throw one of their own to the wolves, with a massive anti corruption drive.
Having said that the PPP is like a cornered and injured lion. Very dangerous. It is to be hoped that APNU AFC aren't fooled by any notion of inevitable victory. But put in place a process to reduce vote buying (PNC areas), voter intimidation and ballot box stuffing (PPP areas).
BTW it was confirmed to me that MANY YOUTHS in Guyana ARE NOT REGISTERED, and are NOT listed on any voter list. This is ESPECIALLY true in PNC strongholds!
well, at least u can't blame the AFC for this
Here's an interesting thought - does APNU's move to form a pre-election coalition with the AFC ring of Netanyahu's assertion of no two-state solution with the Palestinians on his watch only to walk it back after winning?
Here's an interesting thought - does APNU's move to form a pre-election coalition with the AFC ring of Netanyahu's assertion of no two-state solution with the Palestinians on his watch only to walk it back after winning?
not following the analogy
well, at least u can't blame the AFC for this
And given that a minimum 80% of the votes for APNU AFC will come from PNC strongholds, how is that not a concern for the AFC?
The coalition venture was a gamble that the AFC played. If the coalition loses we can ponder as to what the future of the AFC will be. The PPP will rain blows on all the Indian "traitors". The PNC will claim that the guaranteed 12 seats in parliament was only promised if an APNU AFC government was put in place.
So it is very much in the interests of the AFC that this under enrollment of young voters be addressed. If the coalition loses APNU will simply remain the largest opposition party, a role that don't think that they are that uncomfortable with.
Here's an interesting thought - does APNU's move to form a pre-election coalition with the AFC ring of Netanyahu's assertion of no two-state solution with the Palestinians on his watch only to walk it back after winning?
not following the analogy
Yes Kari, please explain.
If you are suggesting that APNU will renege on its agreement with AFC that will be the biggest mistake that they can make. The agreement promises 12 MPs for the AFC should the coalition win.
There are 65 seats in parliament. Even if the PPP drops to 30 seats, that will be 35 seats for APNU AFC, meaning that APNU on its own gets 23 seats (a net loss of 3). AFC will walk, forcing a crisis, or handing the gov't to the PPP as a minority govt.
Now why will APNU do this?
the Chronicle is in its voter suppression mode. It is doing its best to create distractions fir the voter and generate the air that the PNC is crooked and the Alliance is unstable.
Again singing to the choir. Those who still look to the Chronicle for news are going to vote PPP any way. Ditto for the Guyana Times.
The only thing that will save the PPP at this time is if they throw one of their own to the wolves, with a massive anti corruption drive.
Having said that the PPP is like a cornered and injured lion. Very dangerous. It is to be hoped that APNU AFC aren't fooled by any notion of inevitable victory. But put in place a process to reduce vote buying (PNC areas), voter intimidation and ballot box stuffing (PPP areas).
BTW it was confirmed to me that MANY YOUTHS in Guyana ARE NOT REGISTERED, and are NOT listed on any voter list. This is ESPECIALLY true in PNC strongholds!
If that is so where are they getting the 520+ voters on the list?
Here's an interesting thought - does APNU's move to form a pre-election coalition with the AFC ring of Netanyahu's assertion of no two-state solution with the Palestinians on his watch only to walk it back after winning?
Are you impugning the word of the gentlemen involved in this agreement?
If that is so where are they getting the 520+ voters on the list?
Are you seriously talking about a mere 600 voters when the 10,000 vote,s which Nagamootoo won in 2011, are still up for grabs? And when you know full well that the PPP has a plan B to stuff ballots, buy voters, and suppress votes?
If this is all it is hugely scary. I hope that it is more than this, given Freddie Kissoon was pushing the PNC to upgrade its get out the vote apparatus for the last FOUR years, based on his observations of South G/town. This is OLD news!
For the APNU AFC to win with results announced early, and not subjected to a forensic audit of the statements of poll, they need to win 55% of the ballots cast.
Here's an interesting thought - does APNU's move to form a pre-election coalition with the AFC ring of Netanyahu's assertion of no two-state solution with the Palestinians on his watch only to walk it back after winning?
Are you impugning the word of the gentlemen involved in this agreement?
I don't care what a politician says. I care about the CONSEQUENCES on the politician for reneging on an agreement.
THIS is the reason why I eagerly await Kari's response. Should Granger attempt to push aside the AFC, he will be handing the nation back to the PPP. A PPP which will be very angry, bitter, and vengeful.
So Netanyahu appealed to the extreme right of Israeli politics and scared the center. After the Obama white House did a "say, what!", he walked it back to say he's all for 2-state solution but not as things are currently constituted - Hamas as part of the PA and IS only 11 miles away and Yemen in chaos, etc.
So Granger cuts a deal with the AFC to give 'em 12 seats. Note his has some legal construct, whereas Netanyahu's is rhetoric. If the coalition wins and AFC is given 12 seats, Granger can always say fine, take your 12 Parliamentary votes but I take all the important Government functions and I'm President. What this achieves is te ouster of the PPP, but does it change APNU's governance with AFC still playing spoilers as they were in the last Parliament?
Then what of thew AFC's image as a party of the future?
Just thinking out loud. Now, I'm off to Narissa Palace for the APNU-AFC meeting in So Ozone Park.
You are using your limited PPP intelligence to come to that suggestion. Is only a coolie would cut his partner throat like that and take everything afterwards. We have witnessed that big time in Guyana since 1992 with the PPP.
. If the coalition wins and AFC is given 12 seats, Granger can always say fine, take your 12 Parliamentary votes but I take all the important Government functions and I'm President. What this achieves is te ouster of the PPP, but does it change APNU's governance with AFC still playing spoilers as they were in the last Parliament?
Then what of thew AFC's image as a party of the future?
Just thinking out loud. Now, I'm off to Narissa Palace for the APNU-AFC meeting in So Ozone Park.
No Kari what this achieves is the ouster of APNU. The AFC wants not only seats in parliament, but influence over governance.
We have already seen that it is almost impossible for coalitions of opposition parties to control parliament is meaningless, unless accompanied by control of the executive. That might be why Nagamootoo threw caution to the wind and risked the destruction of the AFC by entering into a pre election alliance with APNU.
So if Granger pulls the stunt which you imply, Nagamootoo takes his 12 seats. If the PPP wins 30 seats (2 fewer than present) they then take over as they would be the political entity with the most seats. There is absolutely no way that the coalition will survive if the AFC is pushed out of governance by APNU.
So Granger will NOT renege on the AFC. Not because he is a man of integrity (he may or may not be). BUT because he knows that he can only remain as president if he adheres to what he agreed to.
This isn't to say that in 2020, if APNU feels that they have made inroads into Indian and/or Amerindian voting blocs, they mightn't toss the AFC. Coalitions are by definition temporary.
BUt he CANNOT do this should APNU AFC win in May. That is unless the PPP really implodes and wins 26 or fewer seats. In which case APNU would have at least 27 (65-26-12) so wouldn't need the AFC's 12 seats.
Do you think that the PPP will only win 26 or fewer seats? I doubt it!
Is only a coolie would cut his partner throat like that and take everything afterwards.
I wonder why this response was warranted.
Is only a coolie would cut his partner throat like that and take everything afterwards.
I wonder why this response was warranted.
Chew on it a lot longer and you'll figure it out. Nuff dead bodies in Guyana to provide you with evidence. Remember Sawh?
Who kill Courtney?
Is only a coolie would cut his partner throat like that and take everything afterwards.
I wonder why this response was warranted.
Chew on it a lot longer and you'll figure it out. Nuff dead bodies in Guyana to provide you with evidence. Remember Sawh?
Still wanting to know about what "coolies" are supposedly doing?
Is only a coolie would cut his partner throat like that and take everything afterwards.
I wonder why this response was warranted.
Chew on it a lot longer and you'll figure it out. Nuff dead bodies in Guyana to provide you with evidence. Remember Sawh?
We have no idea what APNU AFC will actually do.They don't have a plan. Remember Burnham, didn't he cut Peter D'gher UF party to the curb .
There was never any progress or prosperity. those benefited were family and friends, cheered on by a few overseas groupies like you.
These are not the days of old, you're stuck way back in time in the rice flour and long line age. You need to wake up. Hopefully, the winds of change will blow your sorry ass to the nearest Travel span office where you would FINALLY book a ticket to the new Guyana.
I am not a supporter of any political party running in this election. All of them are corruptors who put self first and nation after.That being said, let me ask you when was the last time you checked in with your eye doctor. With all the developments going on in Guyana, if you can't see it then you are BLIND. Give Jack their jacket.
Yes. Gold, remittances, drugs and money laundering.
I assess the PPP by projects that they are involved in. Amaila Falls. Specialty Hospital. Providence stadium. White elephant terminal building anticipating that EIGHT Caribbean Airlines planes will land at the same time Then there is the Berbice Bridge, and the Skeldon factory and Marriott.
All filled with rampant stories of corruption and cronyism which would make Putin and his Russian oligarchs know that Jagdeo put his Russian training to good use.
Yes. Gold, remittances, drugs and money laundering.
I assess the PPP by projects that they are involved in. Amaila Falls. Specialty Hospital. Providence stadium. White elephant terminal building anticipating that EIGHT Caribbean Airlines planes will land at the same time Then there is the Berbice Bridge, and the Skeldon factory and Marriott.
All filled with rampant stories of corruption and cronyism which would make Putin and his Russian oligarchs know that Jagdeo put his Russian training to good use.
Yuh right bai. I can't believe that even after nearly 23 years Guyana look worse than it did when I left.
Yes. Gold, remittances, drugs and money laundering.
I assess the PPP by projects that they are involved in. Amaila Falls. Specialty Hospital. Providence stadium. White elephant terminal building anticipating that EIGHT Caribbean Airlines planes will land at the same time Then there is the Berbice Bridge, and the Skeldon factory and Marriott.
All filled with rampant stories of corruption and cronyism which would make Putin and his Russian oligarchs know that Jagdeo put his Russian training to good use.
Yuh right bai. I can't believe that even after nearly 23 years Guyana look worse than it did when I left.
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Tell you what. 23 years later Guyana remains at the bottom if any index of socio economic development in the English speaking Caribbean. How come if the PPP is so wonderful. I mean aside from Trinidad and Jamaica, we are talking about coral reefs and volcanic peaks, with no real resources.
That maybe true. They escape the tax man and settled to travail in filth outside their private living environment.
Is NA money their using, the same ones we send back to them.
Some countries have had to shut down their main industries. Guyana hasn't. Despite that they still remain better off, and thousands of Guyanese fleeing to those islands is proof. So yes it is true that circumstances differ.
Name the island. Trinidad, Grenada, St Vincent, Barbados, St Lucia, Antigua, St Kitts Nevis. What do they all have in common. THOUSANDS of Guyanese living within the borders and with the highest numbers arriving AFTER 2000.
The Guyana population FELL between 2002 and 2012. The US embassy says migration to the USA DECLINED in that period. So obviously large numbers of Guyanese headed to those islands, and others like St Maarten and Tortola. EVEN to volcano plagued Montserrat.
Why are conditions in Nevis so good to attract Guyanese? How come Guyanese living on Leguan even HEARD of an island called Nevis?
Guyana comes last in CXC results when one looks at the AVERAGE performance. The kids taking CXC were not even born during the PNC era. The bulk of their education occurred long after the PPP was installed. So what's your excuse?
Note that the best Guyanese teachers have been fleeing to other CARICOM nations, and this movement has continued since PPP rule. NONE have returned.
Over 85% of the nurses recently FAILED their exams. Low quality instruction, and poor primary and secondary education was blamed. These are the products of the PPPs educational policy. Instruction levels are poor because the best nurses are in Barbados, Trinidad and Antigua! Some even flocking to Jamaica!
Quite using the Burnham jumbie for the FAILURES of the PPP.
Guyanese people really wutliss. I heard that back in the 80's, Guyanese used to use babbs as subway tokens.
Some countries have had to shut down their main industries. Guyana hasn't. Despite that they still remain better off, and thousands of Guyanese fleeing to those islands is proof. So yes it is true that circumstances differ.
Name the island. Trinidad, Grenada, St Vincent, Barbados, St Lucia, Antigua, St Kitts Nevis. What do they all have in common. THOUSANDS of Guyanese living within the borders and with the highest numbers arriving AFTER 2000.
The Guyana population FELL between 2002 and 2012. The US embassy says migration to the USA DECLINED in that period. So obviously large numbers of Guyanese headed to those islands, and others like St Maarten and Tortola. EVEN to volcano plagued Montserrat.
Why are conditions in Nevis so good to attract Guyanese? How come Guyanese living on Leguan even HEARD of an island called Nevis?
Guyana comes last in CXC results when one looks at the AVERAGE performance. The kids taking CXC were not even born during the PNC era. The bulk of their education occurred long after the PPP was installed. So what's your excuse?
Note that the best Guyanese teachers have been fleeing to other CARICOM nations, and this movement has continued since PPP rule. NONE have returned.
Over 85% of the nurses recently FAILED their exams. Low quality instruction, and poor primary and secondary education was blamed. These are the products of the PPPs educational policy. Instruction levels are poor because the best nurses are in Barbados, Trinidad and Antigua! Some even flocking to Jamaica!
Quite using the Burnham jumbie for the FAILURES of the PPP.
Yeah bai. Guyana comes last in CXC exams. Some of those middle teens passing over 20 subjects. When did you or I ever took anywhere near half of those subjects when we were middle teens. I worry about anyone who would buy your doom and gloom drumming.
Was Jagdeo ever married OR he just pretended to be? Divorced?
Yeah bai. Guyana comes last in CXC exams. Some of those middle teens passing over 20 subjects. When did you or I ever took anywhere near half of those subjects when we were middle teens. I worry about anyone who would buy your doom and gloom drumming.
You do know that in order to gauge how well an educational system is you don't look at how 20 kids do, many no doubt because of the thousands which their parents lavish on private lessons, but how the AVERAGE kid does.
Guyana AVERAGE CXC performance in English and Math is WAY BEHIND the performance of other nations which take that exam. This isn't gloom and doom this is a FACT. One which the NYC public schools are aware of when they see the deplorable state of many kids just arrived from Guyana. Check with Una Clarke, a former city council person whose forte is education.
And you all know this is a LIE.
Granger and Nagamootoo tighter than ever.
There are some PNC extremist who are not happy how the AFC moving into key decision making position and thus less jobs for the PNC boys. But Granger is no danger, he is the new DESMOND PERSAUD.
Yes. Gold, remittances, drugs and money laundering.
I assess the PPP by projects that they are involved in. Amaila Falls. Specialty Hospital. Providence stadium. White elephant terminal building anticipating that EIGHT Caribbean Airlines planes will land at the same time Then there is the Berbice Bridge, and the Skeldon factory and Marriott.
All filled with rampant stories of corruption and cronyism which would make Putin and his Russian oligarchs know that Jagdeo put his Russian training to good use.
Yuh right bai. I can't believe that even after nearly 23 years Guyana look worse than it did when I left.
HAhahahahaha HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA
APNU will definitely not get its full turn out of Granger is the new Desmond Persaud.
I know Guyanese live in isolated silos so do not have an appreciation of the facts but APNU AFC will need at least 80% of its votes from APNU. APNU needs to approach the levels of votes which it got in 2001, because we all know that the PPP will try their best to commit fraud.
If Granger is the new "Desi Persaud" many PNC supporters will simply not vote. Note what happened in 2006 when they thought that Corbin was selling out to Indians (Jagdeo). The PPP won 54%, even though their votes fell significantly.
The AFC Nagamootoo faction really need to emerge from their PPP cocoon and stop taking black people for granted.
APNU AFC will have to demonstrate that they will be FAIR to ALL Guyanese, without regard to race, religion, social class or geographic location. If Granger is the new "Desi Persaud", or Nagamootoo is seen as "selling out to black man", and Amerindians think that they wil remain the "forgotten CHILDREN of the forest," the PPP wins. Its that simple.
Do NOT make remarks like that again.
So who winning this time Carib?
Another thread you say PPP on their way down, now you think they gonna win because a man say something. Banna look yeh, APNU/AFC 53% the 47% split among the rest.
So who winning this time Carib?
Another thread you say PPP on their way down, now you think they gonna win because a man say something. Banna look yeh, APNU/AFC 53% the 47% split among the rest.
Did I say the PPP will win? Or did I say that they would lose badly?
IMHO it will be a very close election. Many who now cuss out the PPP will panic before they cast their ballot and will vote for the CUP, and cuss themselves for being so cowardly. So the PPP is not going to lose badly.
But the fact that the PPP is resorting to ethnic panic will weaken their appeal in Amerindian areas, and also among other non Indians who have voted for them in the past.
Seriously no one knows what is going to happen. This is not the usual Indian vs. African/mixed election. This is a pro PPP vs. anti PPP election. Guyana has not seen an election like this since 1953.
This is why Nagamootoo AFC supporters cannot run around and say things like Granger is Desi Persaud. If they do then those who fear that Nagamootoo got too much will think that Granger is weak and that he will be a sell out, so they will stay home...maybe a few giving Benschop some protest votes.
Similarly Nagamootoo has his own home work given alienated PPP supporters the confidence that he will not sell them out to the PNC.
So while many Guyanese are planning to vote based on their attitudes towards the PPP, underlying ethnic insecurity is still a factor. So both the PNC extremists and the Nagamootoo AFC insensitive people can hand the election over to the PPP simply by saying the wrong thing.
I noticed they both are tripping over themselves to say stupid upon stupid things.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
I noticed they both are tripping over themselves to say stupid upon stupid things.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
Except that the particular comment which offends you is benign. There are those who believe that if all Guyanese became mixed then we would solve our problems. Well I have been to Brazil, venezuela and the DR and they have their problems, except that it is skin color, and not ethnic identity, which excludes.
An offensive African attitude will be one premised on the notion (which the PPP is trying to attribute to Crum Ewing) that the only "good" Indian is a dead one, so none of them (including Nagamootoo) can be trusted.
This will be the equivalent of a "Granger Persaud" handing out all the goodies to Indians, and leaving the blacks excluded, which is what the term "Desmond Persaud" implied.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
The operative word is SOCIAL MEDIA TYPES, not the PNC as an organization.
His reference isnt to the PNC leadership, but it is to a few of their rather naive supporters, who do not understand that ethnic identity among Indians is different than it is among blacks. So such statements can be distorted and made to look like an advocacy for some sort of Indian Holocaust, which is actually the OPPOSITE of their intent.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
The operative word is SOCIAL MEDIA TYPES, not the PNC as an organization.
His reference isnt to the PNC leadership, but it is to a few of their rather naive supporters, who do not understand that ethnic identity among Indians is different than it is among blacks. So such statements can be distorted and made to look like an advocacy for some sort of Indian Holocaust, which is actually the OPPOSITE of their intent.
I thought I was pretty clear and quite fair to the PNC for pointing out the source as PNC Social Media "Types" and not the PNC leadership. I did so for good reason. Thank you for your fairness.
Indians (even the most liberal Indians) are friggin appalled at the idea of us being douglarized out of existence. Talbot may mean it as some benign solution to Guyana's race issue as I'm sure it's a solution to every nation's race issue but Indians like any other relatively closed ethnic group hears extermination and genocide by other means as effective as mass murder without the pesky news reports. Saying this kind of nonsense to Indians is the surest way for us to go back on the PPP plantation because we like being Indian and we celebrate our heritage and want it preserved. Douglarizing us all doan do that.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
The operative word is SOCIAL MEDIA TYPES, not the PNC as an organization.
His reference isnt to the PNC leadership, but it is to a few of their rather naive supporters, who do not understand that ethnic identity among Indians is different than it is among blacks. So such statements can be distorted and made to look like an advocacy for some sort of Indian Holocaust, which is actually the OPPOSITE of their intent.
I thought I was pretty clear and quite fair to the PNC for pointing out the source as PNC Social Media "Types" and not the PNC leadership. I did so for good reason. Thank you for your fairness.
Indians (even the most liberal Indians) are friggin appalled at the idea of us being douglarized out of existence. Talbot may mean it as some benign solution to Guyana's race issue as I'm sure it's a solution to every nation's race issue but Indians like any other relatively closed ethnic group hears extermination and genocide by other means as effective as mass murder without the pesky news reports. Saying this kind of nonsense to Indians is the surest way for us to go back on the PPP plantation because we like being Indian and we celebrate our heritage and want it preserved. Douglarizing us all doan do that.
When we began our "debates" it was out of a realization that those who are culturally creole (embracing of people of ALL ethnicities who wish to be, inclusive of those with Indian ancestry) have a very different notion of nationhood than do those with a core "Indian" ancestry.
Once we get rid of the PPP and have a government of "National Unity" there will need to eb discourse on this topic. Until there is there will be endless actions which lead to distrust and tension. I fully expect that to emerge within the coalition, if it wins. Which is why this conversation will be necessary.
People with good intent will continue to make blunders like those who think that comparing Granger to Desmond "Persaud" doesnt offend, and likewise those who advocate a socially engineered form of "douglarization". Indeed Jay Bharrat called that suggestion "racist", but is now to afraid to explain why when I challeged him on it.
Now however is not the time for that debate as the focus nust be to rid Guyana of the PPP scourge!
Yeah bai. Guyana comes last in CXC exams. Some of those middle teens passing over 20 subjects. When did you or I ever took anywhere near half of those subjects when we were middle teens. I worry about anyone who would buy your doom and gloom drumming.
You do know that in order to gauge how well an educational system is you don't look at how 20 kids do, many no doubt because of the thousands which their parents lavish on private lessons, but how the AVERAGE kid does.
Guyana AVERAGE CXC performance in English and Math is WAY BEHIND the performance of other nations which take that exam. This isn't gloom and doom this is a FACT. One which the NYC public schools are aware of when they see the deplorable state of many kids just arrived from Guyana. Check with Una Clarke, a former city council person whose forte is education.
If 20 kids can do it, others can also. One can't buy learning. It comes from effort. Most who don't learn are mostly too lazy or irresponsible to do so. Just as one can't buy learning, they can't have it thrust on them so those who don't want to make the effort aren't going to get it. It is not like giving free food to lazy and irresponsible people. My cousin in Toronto just had her two cousins move from Guyana to go to college in Toronto. They were not rich in Guyana and even though they are not yet 17, they have already passed their CXC exams and have entered college in Toronto. So your nonsense is just that. Nonsense.
And I do not think that miscegenation solves anything. It is just a fact of life and folks should be left alone to marry within their group, or not to, as suits their own desires.
Brazil, the most miscegenated country in the world, is a deeply racist nation. The tensions arent obvious, because of the fallacy that "we are all mixed". But it is blatantly obvious that there is a heirarchy that places the darkest blacks and the "purest" Amerindians at the bottom, despite the lack of clear ethnic boundaries are identities.
In Guyana the conversation needs to be to examine the root causes of ethnic insecurity, and the development of solutions to mitigate these factors. A "kumba ya" isnt necessary, but will be inevitable once people begin to feel less insecure.
If 20 kids can do it, others can also. One can't buy learning. It comes from effort. Most who don't learn are mostly too lazy or irresponsible to do so. Just as one can't buy learning, they can't have it thrust on them so those who don't want to make the effort aren't going to get it. It is not like giving free food to lazy and irresponsible people. My cousin in Toronto just had her two cousins move from Guyana to go to college in Toronto. They were not rich in Guyana and even though they are not yet 17, they have already passed their CXC exams and have entered college in Toronto. So your nonsense is just that. Nonsense.
.Are you suggesting that Guyanese kids are lazier than their Caribbean counterparts? Or are you suggestion that the average Guyanese kid is less exposed to quality education than those in islands like Barbados, St Lucia and St Kitts, where results are much better than those of Guyana?
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And it is NONSENSE about suing college bound kids as an indication. There are those who are academically gifted to do well, regardless as to their circumstances, because they are more academicaly inclined.
There is no nation in the world where most people attend college, because most people do not have the academic gifts to do so. So what do we do with the 70% who dont attend college in the USA, or the 90% who dont in Guyana? They still need the basics to compete in the job market, and employers as well as UG complain that most of the kids leaving school are not prepared.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
The operative word is SOCIAL MEDIA TYPES, not the PNC as an organization.
His reference isnt to the PNC leadership, but it is to a few of their rather naive supporters, who do not understand that ethnic identity among Indians is different than it is among blacks. So such statements can be distorted and made to look like an advocacy for some sort of Indian Holocaust, which is actually the OPPOSITE of their intent.
u are a 'useful' idiot!
PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan" is NOT REAL!! smart people tend to properly dispose of such utterings by con men in a garbage bag labeled 'provocation'
so, who are the "leading PNC social media types praising" what Shaitaan is presenting not as the reverie of Mr. Talbot [such as he even exists], but as a fact?
why is reading/comprehension for the allegedly educated this hard?
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
The operative word is SOCIAL MEDIA TYPES, not the PNC as an organization.
His reference isnt to the PNC leadership, but it is to a few of their rather naive supporters, who do not understand that ethnic identity among Indians is different than it is among blacks. So such statements can be distorted and made to look like an advocacy for some sort of Indian Holocaust, which is actually the OPPOSITE of their intent.
u are a 'useful' idiot!
PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan" is NOT REAL!! smart people tend to properly dispose of such utterings by con men in a garbage bag labeled 'provocation'
so, who are the "leading PNC social media types praising" what Shaitaan is presenting not as the reverie of Mr. Talbot [such as he even exists], but as a fact?
why is reading/comprehension for the allegedly educated this hard?
In case you didn't get it, the title I chose for the thread was largely in jest.
You are always "on."
I actually thought it was pretty funny. The whole idea. And also I thought I was quite clever in availing myself of the material
so, who are the "leading PNC social media types praising" what Shaitaan is presenting not as the reverie of Mr. Talbot [such as he even exists], but as a fact?
why is reading/comprehension for the allegedly educated this hard?
Shaitaan clarified his position, and it is as I expected. So why dont you acknowledge this?
He isnt saying that the PNC plans do so. He is saying that social engineering, to encourage "douglarization" is seen as threatening by many Indians.
Clearly offering houselots to couples which include a black man and an Indian woman, is social engineering, and one can even wonder if a couple with an Indian man and a black woman would benefit. That omission suggests to me that it was the normal "online banter", not to be taken seriously.
I'm sure have leading PNC social media types praising the PNC for handing out houselots wid every coolie homan is not the best strategy for an already paranoid and shrinking ethnic population. Especially when that paranoia is quite justified.
sick bastard!
where in gawd's name is the PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan"??
why is reality never enuf for the febrile race cultists on this BB?
The operative word is SOCIAL MEDIA TYPES, not the PNC as an organization.
His reference isnt to the PNC leadership, but it is to a few of their rather naive supporters, who do not understand that ethnic identity among Indians is different than it is among blacks. So such statements can be distorted and made to look like an advocacy for some sort of Indian Holocaust, which is actually the OPPOSITE of their intent.
u are a 'useful' idiot!
PNC "handing out houselots wid every coolie homan" is NOT REAL!! smart people tend to properly dispose of such utterings by con men in a garbage bag labeled 'provocation'
so, who are the "leading PNC social media types praising" what Shaitaan is presenting not as the reverie of Mr. Talbot [such as he even exists], but as a fact?
why is reading/comprehension for the allegedly educated this hard?
In case you didn't get it, the title I chose for the thread was largely in jest.
You are always "on."
I actually thought it was pretty funny. The whole idea. And also I thought I was quite clever in availing myself of the material
con man, i am fully aware that the title of the thread was in jest
i only jumped in when, like yugee dem, you concoct a race polemic based on the joke which in the matter of a coupla posts has mysteriously been re-garbed as deadly, existential fact!
this is the "bogus argumentation" that i despise; the sad part is . . . i don't think u can help yourself
Are you suggesting that Guyanese kids are lazier than their Caribbean counterparts? Or are you suggestion that the average Guyanese kid is less exposed to quality education than those in islands like Barbados, St Lucia and St Kitts, where results are much better than those of Guyana?
I am saying that those who don't benefit from the same education as others who use it are mostly lazy and irresponsible. Can't blame lazy and irresponsible students' behaviors on the government.
And it is NONSENSE about suing college bound kids as an indication. There are those who are academically gifted to do well, regardless as to their circumstances, because they are more academicaly inclined.
Exactly. Kids who are academically inclined do better than those who are lazy and irresponsible. Kids don't born academically inclined. They get there if they choose to dream big.
There is no nation in the world where most people attend college, because most people do not have the academic gifts to do so. So what do we do with the 70% who dont attend college in the USA, or the 90% who dont in Guyana? They still need the basics to compete in the job market, and employers as well as UG complain that most of the kids leaving school are not prepared.
They should pay some attention to their school work so that they can at least survive even if they don't get to go to college. The key in all three parts of your response is that lazy and irresponsible kids shouldn't count on someone else bailing them out of their predicament.
They should pay some attention to their school work so that they can at least survive even if they don't get to go to college. The key in all three parts of your response is that lazy and irresponsible kids shouldn't count on someone else bailing them out of their predicament.
So why don't you say that Guyanese kids are the laziest kids in the Caribbean?
You will of course fail to note that among those teachers in the islands are some of Guyana's best, leaving the bottom of the barrel in Guyana.
In fact given that teachers are unimportant why don't you just hand the kids the books and have them study on their own?
They should pay some attention to their school work so that they can at least survive even if they don't get to go to college. The key in all three parts of your response is that lazy and irresponsible kids shouldn't count on someone else bailing them out of their predicament.
So why don't you say that Guyanese kids are the laziest kids in the Caribbean?
Not all. The ones who are not lazy or irresponsible do well passing many more subjects than you and I ever dreamed of doing. No government can help make the lazy and irresponsible ones learn. Not even in the great USA. It is not the same as giving people free food.
You will of course fail to note that among those teachers in the islands are some of Guyana's best, leaving the bottom of the barrel in Guyana.
This has been happening since the 70's. My sister as a student of Central had to teach herself Bio, Phys and Chem for her O'Levels. And she passed all three with better than good grades.
In fact given that teachers are unimportant why don't you just hand the kids the books and have them study on their own?
Just more excuses from the doom and gloom engineer. Bottom line is that lazy and irresponsible kids will not learn as those not lazy and irresponsible. Not even in the great USA with all its resources and stellar governance.
Just more excuses from the doom and gloom engineer. Bottom line is that lazy and irresponsible kids will not learn as those not lazy and irresponsible. Not even in the great USA with all its resources and stellar governance.
Results for CXC 2014. Average Math performance 46%...Guyana 28%. Average English performance 56%....Guyana 46%.
MOST Guyanese FAIL English, and the math performance is a DISGRACE!
So just say that Guyanese kids are the laziest in the Caribbean. Not that they are exposed to the lowest quality teaching.
I will also add that in the PPP heartland, Region 6, only 5% have had post secondary education, vs. 13% in Region 4 and 9% in Region 10. In Region 6 33% of the population have no more than primary school education, vs. 14% in region 10.
So according to you Corentyne kids are lazier than those in Linden! And Guyanese are the laziest in the Caribbean.
Guyana was exhibiting growth rate of 5% and above when the PPP came to power in 92. It had done a complete U turn with an opening up of the society and a freeing up of money. The soviet union was dead, t he economy of the west had recovered and loans were easy. The US even developed a complete HIV recovery plan with wheat for flour.
Guyana still shows an average earning of 3500, among the lowest in the west. That is not a nation with lots of cash for fancy vacation. Amerindians and rural indians still earn 2 dollars a day. Ramotar new call centers left low cost Mexico to locate in Guyana and these facilities are the modern day replacement for the garment factory sweat shops. If they left Mexico for Guyana for labor do you think the are paying six dollars an hour? I am sure it is six per day!
You are a bean counter so you know what it means to have no producing assets, and already owes 100 percent of GDP, has no reserves and has to borrow to do anything and the loan sharks is China. We are hell bent on a road to economic serfdom to the Chinese. It is a complete illusion that we are on the fast track to prosperity. Add the penalty of corruption ( it is a tax) and mismanagement and you have a recipe for continued impoverishment.