* The Rev finds that a lot of you PNC/AFC supporters on GNI seem lost---you have been losers for such a long time that now your party has won, you just don't know how to enjoy the victory.

* Listen people! The PPP has been kicked out of office. Let's see if your beloved PNC/AFC will surpass the economic performance of the PPP over the next 5 years.

* WILL GUYANA & GUYANESE BE BETTER OFF UNDER THE PNC/AFC.

Rev

Rev, the PPP had 23 years in office and have turned Guyana in a failed state. It will take more than one election for the coalition to bail out this sinking ship, tow it to harbour, and repair it so that it is sea worthy again. Right now we have no idea if the central bank has any money left. The PPP has been busy doing foreign transfers up to the moment of their ejection from parliament.

Mr. T:

STOP LYING! GUYANA IS NOT A FAILED STATE.

* Look the elections are over and your beloved PNC/AFC won, so no need to keep lying.

CHECK THIS:

* When the PPP took over in 1992 the country was bankrupted and pauperized by the PNC.

* In 2015 the PNC/AFC takes over a country that has experienced positive Real GDP growth rates the past 9 years.

Rev

If OBAMA didn't interfere, we would have delivered. 

Obama is a good man.  GOD BLESS AMERICA.

You all scrunt think that America not watching the PPP and their narco trafficking buddies.

LOL  - America works in mysterious ways.

America is the receiver.  All you people are on drugs.  The jails are full of addicts.   Your presidents didn't inhale were their excuses.

WOW! YHE PPP LOST REGION 8 BY 1 VOTE

FINAL RESULTS:

50.2% PNC/AFC

49.1% PPP

* Did the PPP ask for Region 8 votes to be re-counted ?

Rev

Yes!

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

FROM WHERE I SIT, I SHALL SUPPORT A CLEAN DAVID GRANGER ANY DAY THAN A CROOKED JAGDEO.

I am East Indian and Hindu.

This shyte got nothing to do with Indian or Black.

It got to do with how we rule the country.

Let Jagdeo explain the source of funds for the mansion first.

Flour boy, you don't have to tell me who you are, we know who you are, and you fit the mold very well.  Now, which of the 12 seats you getting?

As I said.  Let the PPP transform itself into  avalid multi racial party by dumping this coolie party with a few black tokens nonsense.  Find black people with a valid black constituency.  People who have been known to advocate on behalf of Afro Guyanese people, and therefore trusted by them.

In other words learn from APNU and the AFC.  They won because there was  small swing Indo vote combined with the African and mixed vote.  This outnumbered the PPPs scared Indo vote and purchased Amerindian vote.

BTW, lacking largesse over the next 5 years the PPP will no longer have its Amerindian vote, unless the coalition govt is stupid, and neglects these people.  In addition the small black/mixed vote that the PPP got will probably not be there either as much of it was from milk drinkers voting for the people who they assumed would have won.....people like Dizzy Lizzy.

How can a group which is going to be just over 35% of the population by 2020 think that they can form an Indo government.  If the PPP continues to be racist then they will be punished for it.

BTW of the coalition performs and succeeds in demonstrating that multi ethnic govt can work the swing Indian vote will be even larger.

So basemen, shift your thinking form Indo this and Indo that, and understand that, ethnic groups aren't monolithic, and that no ethnic can stand outside of a multi ethnic environments and still succeed.

I warned you and Shaitaan about this and yet you both stuck to this ethnically exclusive Indo tribal model.

I thought you said they done name them.

I do believe the PPP should have reinvent themselves a long time ago.  This was not my point.  As I said, the blame lies at their feet.  I do believe both parties should be more multi-ethnic.  Read again and understand my position.  AFC jump the gun and fell for quantitative measures over qualitative.

Hear me out in simple terms.  I DON'T SEE GRANGER GRANTING NAGAMOOTOO THE CHANGES HE WANTS.  Absolute power now lies with the PNC as it did pre-1992 and presents a clear opportunity for an era of "neo-Burnhamism".  Nothing stands in they way except the good intentions of any PNC leader.

More paranoia on your part.

1.  People screamed that Granger will renege.  Well to their disappointment they now see that he isn't as the cabinet begins to be assembled and MPs are being named.

2. Armed with 12 seats the AFC can demolish the coalition government if Granger uses the constitution to exclude them.

3. APNU with 21 seats will crumble in the face of a combined PPP AFC MONC and they will lose that election.  Granger will then need to explain as to why he allowed that to happen.

Its no point talking about the fact that people ought to have multi racial coalitions, and then pour hot water when one is staring at you.

FACT.  The AFC promised a new constitution and will benefit from it.  FACT.  If APNU drags their feet this will be the trigger that might lead to an APNU AFC conflict.  FACT.  The PPP in opposition will also want a new constitution.

So there will be discussions about a new constitution.

BTW the PPPs idea of a multi racial coalition is to remain an Indian party, and appoint some black tokens who lack a black constituency, and who have no known track record in advocating on behalf of Afro Guyanese.  Black people aren't going to buy that, so the PPP will have to change its entire mentality.  I don't see that with its existing leadership because Jagdeo is a proven racist.

You really believed that people posting on GNI actually got paid by the PPP?

Some of them did.

Caribj, you are a very smart guy, you know all this is window dressing.  But, I don't blame you, you ought to be gleeful, all Afro "ethnic Security" issues have been fully accomplished.  You are now in "heaven".

Baseman.  Continue to mourn.  A small Indo swing vote combined with others to install a coalition.  If this coalition succeeds a LARGER Indo swing vote will emerge as people like you will no longer be able to scare them with "black man gun rape yo daughter" which you all engaged in a few weeks ago.

Join the rest of the world baseman.  The population of Guyana is 60% non Indian identified.  Your Hindutva paradis cannot ever exist in Guyana AGAIN.  Now you can either join the rest of Guyana, or you can sulk in the corner.

BTW the African insecurity dilemma is no more solved now than the Indian insecurity dilemma was resolved under the PPP.

Did I not say the PPP screwed up by not becoming more multi-ethnic?  I support multi-ethnic politics.  Let's see if Granger and the PNC power structure allows AFC to be "independent minded".

The issue you see, it's all up to the gratuity of whoever the PNC/GDF leader is.  And we know how that went for 28 years.

Good. Now they have to get real jobs that pays real money. 

No you don't because if you did you would give the first multi ethnic alliance in post independence Guyana a chance to operate. 

You would see that, contrary to your screams, the AFC will get their share of MP slots and cabinet positions as was agreed. And you would acknowledge the fact that the AFC has  a gun to the head of APNU and the ability to pull the trigger when ever they wish.

And yes, if APNU doesn't allow discussions on a new constitution, and the PPP does, then there will be an MONC and yes. your PPP will be back.

Your idea of multi ethnic politics is an Indo party with a few black tokens and when blacks reject those tokens, as they did Sam Hinds, you will scream how racist they are!

Was I not always critical of CBJ for not reaching out to the PNC when he won in 1992?  I always held this position even when the PPP was solidly winning?  I reiterated this position in 2011.  I always contend that 40% feeling excluded, real of perception, is reality in their minds and needs to be addressed.  YOU KNOW this was one of the key criticisms I had of the Jagans/PPP.   Why then am I am "Indoist", as you like to say?

Honestly, I don't want to see THIS PPP back.  They received a trashing for a reason.  I really don't like their attitude.  I want a multi-ethnic party with solid checks and balance within.

Actually in the early days my memory of you is more defined by your anecdotes of black laziness and shiftlessness and your assertions that the arrival of Indians saved Guyana from being another Haiti.  This frames my image of you.  As such blatant bigotry as fallen out of style on GNI you have ceased to be so obvious.

I do not advocate two major parties coalescing when both have a reputation for being inept. Any democracy needs an opposition.  Both the governing party and the lead opposition party will have to be multi ethnic if they plan to exist.  Shifting demographics with a  rapidly declining Indian population, and a growing mixed population dictate that.

So on May 11 2015 a swing Indo vote joined Africans and mixed people to ATTEMPT to create a multi racial democracy.  Because it isn't PPP dominated you are pouring acid on it.

The PPP FAILED to attempt multi ethnic governance and so were rejected. The APNU AFC are attempting multi ethnic governance and so won the election.

So why your screams?

And you have a multi ethnic government with solid checks and balances.

Here is the deal.  MOSES FAILED TO bring in a large Indian vote as the PPP was successful about "Moses is not an Indian" and combined that with "black man gun rape yu daughter" to terrify Indians out.  They gained 35k votes, mainly from Indians, though some from Amerindians, whose votes the bought with a tax payer funded spending spree.

DESPITE that Moses was given a gun by Granger with the ability to pull the trigger and kill the APNU AFC coalition, and with that an APNU dominated government.

Talk about checks and balances.

And the true test of this will be discussions on the constitution.

Now explain in detail why you think that the AFC will not move to change it when it is the AFC who will be the LARGEST beneficiaries of a more democratic constitution?  AND the AFC has it its disposal the ability to pull the trigger and end the life of the APNU dominated government.

What more do you want?

Baseman:

* If President Granger chooses to keep the Burnham constitution fully intact---that means he will continue to have the power of recall among 1000 other powers---so with no changes to the constitution---what you said above may very well turn out to be true.

* Anyway, these are different times in Guyana---we live in 2015 not 1968---I refuse to believe Prime Minister Nagamootoo will remain quiet on the issue of the Guyana constitution and the need for changes.

* The way the Rev is reading things---The AFC Prime Minister is determined to have his office imbued with more POWER---and he was less power for the PNC President.

Rev

Rev (Loser) you have no credibility. You lack integrity.

carib:

* That was, indeed, a huge, massive loss by the PPP. Let's look at the numbers again:

207,200 votes = APNU/AFC

202,694 votes = PPP/C

* The APNU/AFC coalition defeated the PPP/C by a humongous 4506 votes---that was some rejection by the Guyana electorate.

* Regarding Region 8---APNU/AFC(1837 votes) won that region by an impressive 1 vote over the PPP/C(1836 votes).

* Oh well! Let's see how much better the multi-ehnic PNC/AFC rules the country than the homogenous PPP.

Rev

Rev ( loser) you are very boring. Go play with yourself and stick your numbers up your poop chute.

Mitwah's obsession on these are quite revealing.

Now that is a statement for the ages.  Proverbs 28:26 talks about you.

CHECK THIS OUT GNI PNC/AFC supporters:

Under the PPP government Guyana experienced POSITIVE REAL GDP GROWTH in each of the last 9 years.

GUYANA'S REAL GDP GROWTH

 

2006 5.1%

2007 7.0%

2008 2.0%

2009 3.3%

2010 4.4%

2011 5.4%

2012 4.8%

2013 5.2%

2014 3.3% --estimated

2015 3.8% --est

QUESTION:

* Now that the PNC/AFC has taken over the government will the positive GDP GROWTH RATES continue or will the PNC/AFC muck things up and we'll shortly see a negative GDP growth rate number ?

Rev

Rev (Loser), those numbers are false. You have no credibility nor integrity.

Meanwhile you talk about yourself and what you say is very disturbing.

Fool, now that is another statement for the ages.  Grab yourself a donut.

...more shrill screams about a constitution you never cared about when you were paid by the gangsters. We get the point - you want Indian power only and the man you called a "dirty Indian" is now your only path to acheiving it. You truly are a slimy, flea infested cur

Oi Rev ah hear someThing bout how u bein a slimy flea infested cur, is wat dah mean banna? Does dat make u lil scratchety?

Whatever seat he gets make sure it's a large one to hold his moldy flour arse.

Itsibitsy:

* The Rev wishes to make it crystal clear that like the late President Cheddi Jagan and former Presidents Jagdeo and Ramotar, he, the esteemed Rev, is very comfortable with the Burnham constitution.

* In my estimation President David Granger will be a fool to agree to a change of the Burnham constitution where he would be granted less power.

* It is Prime Minister Nagamootoo and the AFC who are determinded to stip the President of his power via rewriting of the constitution.

* The way things stand right now David Granger is the BIG KAHUNA and the others are his slaves.

* DON'T AGREE TO CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT WOULD REDUCE YOUR POWER DAVID.

Rev

Rev you are not esteemed. You are not a wise and intelligent person and moreover you are not a numbers man as you claimed. You suffered 3 strikes.

You lack respect, credibility and integrity. It's like when you lost your virginity.

AFC should not ask for more than the Cummingsburg Accord - it was a good deal.