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THE HONORABLE & ESTEEMED PRIME MINISTER SPEAKS

 

 

* The honorable Prime Minister is a man who knows his history. He is fully aware that back in 1964 the UF after forming a coalition with the PNC was royally screwed.

 

* The Prime Minister is secretly adamant that the AFC must absolutely protect its domain by insisting on CONSTITUTIONAL changes.

 

* For example, under the current Guyana constitution President Granger has the power of recall---if the Prime Minister or any AFC MP votes with the PPP in parliament they can be re-called by the President.

 

* The Prime Minister knows that he and the AFC are powerless unless the constitution is changed and the power of the President is reduced.

 

* Best of wishes to the Prime Minister----not sure if President Granger will be amenable to any changes in the constitution---he is now the BIG KAHUNA---and he loves the power granted to him.

 

* WHAT DO YOU FOLKS SAY ?

 

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Originally Posted by Chief:

Congrats to Moses.

 

* In 5 years time the AFC may demand the Presidency as part of any agreement to stay in the APNU+AFC coalition.

 

* If Prime Minister Moses and the AFC are wise they will maintain their party's independence.

 

* Yes they are now part of the coalition government----but by maintaining their independence---they'll always have immense bargaining power. Maybe in 5 years time the AFC may form a coalition with the PPP. 

 

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Originally Posted by Rev:

THE HONORABLE & ESTEEMED PRIME MINISTER SPEAKS

 

 

* The honorable Prime Minister is a man who knows his history. He is fully aware that back in 1964 the UF after forming a coalition with the PNC was royally screwed.

 

* The Prime Minister is secretly adamant that the AFC must absolutely protect its domain by insisting on CONSTITUTIONAL changes.

 

* For example, under the current Guyana constitution President Granger has the power of recall---if the Prime Minister or any AFC MP votes with the PPP in parliament they can be re-called by the President.

 

* The Prime Minister knows that he and the AFC are powerless unless the constitution is changed and the power of the President is reduced.

 

* Best of wishes to the Prime Minister----not sure if President Granger will be amenable to any changes in the constitution---he is now the BIG KAHUNA---and he loves the power granted to him.

 

* WHAT DO YOU FOLKS SAY ?

 

Rev

The euphoria will soon subside and real life begins.  Let the games begin.  The masses should throw their weight behind Nagamootoo regarding these changes he seek.  This is not an issue of race, it an issue of accountability and good governance.

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Originally Posted by Nehru:

Rev, This what James Bond said " THe PNC is alive and well and that Burnham's Party is standing alone in victory, so go figure.

 

* If the Burnham constitution remains intact then what James Bond says is correct, "the PNC is alive and well..."

 

* It is paramount for Prime Minister Nagamootoo and his AFC party to absolutely insist that the Constitution, particularly the part giving the President the power of recall, be changed.

 

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if we cannot put the past behind us how can we expect to progress. This is a new generation of Guyanese, it is pointless to try and poison their minds, all over the world changes are happening. Why are we reluctant to accept these changes. And as a matter of fact how many here actually have a true interest in Guyana, we are living the comfy life here, the Guyanese living over there back home seems to be embracing this new regime.

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Originally Posted by Amral:

if we cannot put the past behind us how can we expect to progress. This is a new generation of Guyanese, it is pointless to try and poison their minds, all over the world changes are happening. Why are we reluctant to accept these changes. And as a matter of fact how many here actually have a true interest in Guyana, we are living the comfy life here, the Guyanese living over there back home seems to be embracing this new regime.

Amral, What past behind?? So why were there Looting , Burning, Molesting????

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Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:

THE HONORABLE & ESTEEMED PRIME MINISTER SPEAKS

 

 

* The honorable Prime Minister is a man who knows his history. He is fully aware that back in 1964 the UF after forming a coalition with the PNC was royally screwed.

 

* The Prime Minister is secretly adamant that the AFC must absolutely protect its domain by insisting on CONSTITUTIONAL changes.

 

* For example, under the current Guyana constitution President Granger has the power of recall---if the Prime Minister or any AFC MP votes with the PPP in parliament they can be re-called by the President.

 

* The Prime Minister knows that he and the AFC are powerless unless the constitution is changed and the power of the President is reduced.

 

* Best of wishes to the Prime Minister----not sure if President Granger will be amenable to any changes in the constitution---he is now the BIG KAHUNA---and he loves the power granted to him.

 

* WHAT DO YOU FOLKS SAY ?

 

Rev

The euphoria will soon subside and real life begins.  Let the games begin.  The masses should throw their weight behind Nagamootoo regarding these changes he seek.  This is not an issue of race, it an issue of accountability and good governance.

Isn't in interesting that the man who you lambasted as a race traitor is now a pillar of morality.

 

I guess even a "bad" Indian is better than a black man in your books.

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Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

 

* The AFC was the catalyst in the coalition getting 50.6% of the votes---the Prime Minister delivered on his promise.

 

* But in order to protect themselves from the PNC---it is pivotal for Prime Minister Nagamootoo and AFC insist very early that changes be made in the constitution.

 

* It is true that a 66% vote is needed to change the constitution---but I am 100% certain that the PPP will agree that the President's power of recall be abolished.

 

Rev

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NehruNehruBig Mouth Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:

THE HONORABLE & ESTEEMED PRIME MINISTER SPEAKS

 

 

* The honorable Prime Minister is a man who knows his history. He is fully aware that back in 1964 the UF after forming a coalition with the PNC was royally screwed.

 

* The Prime Minister is secretly adamant that the AFC must absolutely protect its domain by insisting on CONSTITUTIONAL changes.

 

* For example, under the current Guyana constitution President Granger has the power of recall---if the Prime Minister or any AFC MP votes with the PPP in parliament they can be re-called by the President.

 

* The Prime Minister knows that he and the AFC are powerless unless the constitution is changed and the power of the President is reduced.

 

* Best of wishes to the Prime Minister----not sure if President Granger will be amenable to any changes in the constitution---he is now the BIG KAHUNA---and he loves the power granted to him.

 

* WHAT DO YOU FOLKS SAY ?

 

Rev

The euphoria will soon subside and real life begins.  Let the games begin.  The masses should throw their weight behind Nagamootoo regarding these changes he seek.  This is not an issue of race, it an issue of accountability and good governance.

Isn't in interesting that the man who you lambasted as a race traitor is now a pillar of morality.

 

I guess even a "bad" Indian is better than a black man in your books.

It depends who the "Blackman" is, for example you Marcus Greene AKA Caribj will be one of those.

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Originally Posted by asj:

I do not thing that APNU would risk getting the AFC riled, without AFC we are in for another prorogation of Parliament, another Election........think that this marriage is heavenly blessed.

As we saw at the last congress APNU isn't a monolithic group.  The AFC has to be just as careful with APNU as APNU has to be with the AFC.  If the coalition ends AFC supporters would have put themselves in a position for the PPP to really punish them.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:

THE HONORABLE & ESTEEMED PRIME MINISTER SPEAKS

 

 

* The honorable Prime Minister is a man who knows his history. He is fully aware that back in 1964 the UF after forming a coalition with the PNC was royally screwed.

 

* The Prime Minister is secretly adamant that the AFC must absolutely protect its domain by insisting on CONSTITUTIONAL changes.

 

* For example, under the current Guyana constitution President Granger has the power of recall---if the Prime Minister or any AFC MP votes with the PPP in parliament they can be re-called by the President.

 

* The Prime Minister knows that he and the AFC are powerless unless the constitution is changed and the power of the President is reduced.

 

* Best of wishes to the Prime Minister----not sure if President Granger will be amenable to any changes in the constitution---he is now the BIG KAHUNA---and he loves the power granted to him.

 

* WHAT DO YOU FOLKS SAY ?

 

Rev

The euphoria will soon subside and real life begins.  Let the games begin.  The masses should throw their weight behind Nagamootoo regarding these changes he seek.  This is not an issue of race, it an issue of accountability and good governance.

Isn't in interesting that the man who you lambasted as a race traitor is now a pillar of morality.

 

I guess even a "bad" Indian is better than a black man in your books.

Basemen never cuss the man but was apprehensive, but baseman ready to admit being wrong if he does fight and get these changes.  He was able to do more that I had expected.  The changes he wants is good for all Guyanese, you have to agree.  Hats off to him...thus far!

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Originally Posted by asj:

I do not thing that APNU would risk getting the AFC riled, without AFC we are in for another prorogation of Parliament, another Election........think that this marriage is heavenly blessed.

 

* The AFC learned the following from the great American President Ronald Wilson Reagan:

 

TRUST, BUT VERIFY

 

* Prime Minister Nagamootoo and the AFC are willing to TRUST their new coalition partner, the PNC. But they will insist on verification.

 

* To begin with the constitution must be changed---and the President's power to recall must be removed.

 

Rev

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NehruNehruBig Mouth Member
Originally Posted by Amral:

Nehru the past as in the 60's70's and 80's

 

Give them a chance, the PPP was really no better in the later half of their 23 years

I agree with you Bhai.  I said they should have their chance.  All I am asking for is FAIRNESS and for someone to teach the Opposition supporters humanity and civility.  The PNC cant cry like women when they lost and expect the PPP to be quiet when they do. That is not FAIRNESS

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

The euphoria will soon subside and real life begins.  Let the games begin.  The masses should throw their weight behind Nagamootoo regarding these changes he seek.  This is not an issue of race, it an issue of accountability and good governance.

 

* I am 100% confident the PPP will support Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo regarding the changes in the constitution he is seeking.

 

* Changes should also be made to the constitution regarding coalitions---coalitions should be allowed after the elections.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* President Granger will be put to a test by his AFC coalition partners very early in his administration.

 

Rev

 

 

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Originally Posted by Amral:

I am not a supporter of any party never was never will be, but I am happy for the new party that will soon take power.

 

* The PPP was in power since 1992---that's 23 years---no one can deny that Guyana experienced decent growth and development during the PPP's tenure.

 

* But lemme be honest---the PPP politicians abused their power---they were corrupt---and their arrogance poisoned the minds of many Guyanese voters.

 

* OK! THE PPP LOST THE ELECTION.

 

* But look at the numbers--the COALITION won by just 5400 votes---if 2700 voters had chosen to remain with the PPP---they would still be in power.

 

* Anyway, APNU/AFC has won---they are now in charge---let's see how they will rule the country.

 

* 5 years from now if APNU/AFC politicians are perceived to be just as power hungry and arrogant and self serving as PPP politicians---they'll be voted out of office.

 

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Rev, This what James Bond said " THe PNC is alive and well and that Burnham's Party is standing alone in victory, so go figure.

 

* If the Burnham constitution remains intact then what James Bond says is correct, "the PNC is alive and well..."

 

* It is paramount for Prime Minister Nagamootoo and his AFC party to absolutely insist that the Constitution, particularly the part giving the President the power of recall, be changed.

 

Rev

Those changes, as a minimum, requires two-thirds support of the MPs.

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Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. Yes, there is work to do on the constitution (which is not a quick process) but there are smaller issues which can be addressed to immediately improve the quality of life for ALL Guyanese. It appears the focus continues to be on politics and power. Almost as if the AFC supporters didn't expect to win.

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

The euphoria will soon subside and real life begins.  Let the games begin.  The masses should throw their weight behind Nagamootoo regarding these changes he seek.  This is not an issue of race, it an issue of accountability and good governance.

 

* I am 100% confident the PPP will support Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo regarding the changes in the constitution he is seeking.

 

* Changes should also be made to the constitution regarding coalitions---coalitions should be allowed after the elections.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* President Granger will be put to a test by his AFC coalition partners very early in his administration.

 

Rev

 

 

Has pros and cons, but worth a consideration.

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Originally Posted by Itaname:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. Yes, there is work to do on the constitution (which is not a quick process) but there are smaller issues which can be addressed to immediately improve the quality of life for ALL Guyanese. It appears the focus continues to be on politics and power. Almost as if the AFC supporters didn't expect to win.

Hey hey, you have to learn to walk and chew gum at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Rev, This what James Bond said " THe PNC is alive and well and that Burnham's Party is standing alone in victory, so go figure.

 PPP should back the change.

* If the Burnham constitution remains intact then what James Bond says is correct, "the PNC is alive and well..."

 

* It is paramount for Prime Minister Nagamootoo and his AFC party to absolutely insist that the Constitution, particularly the part giving the President the power of recall, be changed.

 

Rev

Those changes, as a minimum, requires two-thirds support of the MPs.

 

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FM Former Member
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Itaname:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. Yes, there is work to do on the constitution (which is not a quick process) but there are smaller issues which can be addressed to immediately improve the quality of life for ALL Guyanese. It appears the focus continues to be on politics and power. Almost as if the AFC supporters didn't expect to win.

Hey hey, you have to learn to walk and chew gum at the same time.

PPP been walking and chewing gum for 23 years. Didn't hear a peep about constitutional reform.

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Originally Posted by Amral:

if we cannot put the past behind us how can we expect to progress. This is a new generation of Guyanese, it is pointless to try and poison their minds, all over the world changes are happening. Why are we reluctant to accept these changes. And as a matter of fact how many here actually have a true interest in Guyana, we are living the comfy life here, the Guyanese living over there back home seems to be embracing this new regime.

No one is poisoning their minds.  Don't forget almost half of the people voted against the new Government, and feel they were cheated.  The Country is no way more United.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

* It is paramount for Prime Minister Nagamootoo and his AFC party to absolutely insist that the Constitution, particularly the part giving the President the power of recall, be changed.

 

 

Demerara-Guy: Those changes, as a minimum, requires two-thirds support of the MPs.

 

DG:

 

* Surely you are not telling me that PPP members of parliament would not support the taking away the President's power to recall in the constitution.

 

* There is too much power in the Presidency. That has to change.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by alena06:
Originally Posted by Amral:

if we cannot put the past behind us how can we expect to progress. This is a new generation of Guyanese, it is pointless to try and poison their minds, all over the world changes are happening. Why are we reluctant to accept these changes. And as a matter of fact how many here actually have a true interest in Guyana, we are living the comfy life here, the Guyanese living over there back home seems to be embracing this new regime.

No one is poisoning their minds.  Don't forget almost half of the people voted against the new Government, and feel they were cheated.  The Country is no way more United.

 

 

Baseman is cautious, we have to see real change, not nice words and promises.  I will not let my guard down until I see some movement on some of the initiatives proposed by the new PM.  The coming elections will be as close as this, let"s see if Granger resists calling in the military to thwart the outcome.

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Amral:

I am not a supporter of any party never was never will be, but I am happy for the new party that will soon take power.

 

* The PPP was in power since 1992---that's 23 years---no one can deny that Guyana experienced decent growth and development during the PPP's tenure.

 

* But lemme be honest---the PPP politicians abused their power---they were corrupt---and their arrogance poisoned the minds of many Guyanese voters.

 

* OK! THE PPP LOST THE ELECTION.

 

* But look at the numbers--the COALITION won by just 5400 votes---if 2700 voters had chosen to remain with the PPP---they would still be in power.

 

* Anyway, APNU/AFC has won---they are now in charge---let's see how they will rule the country.

 

* 5 years from now if APNU/AFC politicians are perceived to be just as power hungry and arrogant and self serving as PPP politicians---they'll be voted out of office.

 

Rev

You're a case study in double-crossing. You were a mole here pretending to be PPP; praising Mr. Ramotar, his wife, children, etc. I'm waiting to see your position in the new gov't.  

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Originally Posted by Itaname:
 

PPP been walking and chewing gum for 23 years. Didn't hear a peep about constitutional reform.

 

Bai Itaname:

 

* It's not the PPP that is demanding changes in the constitution. It is the AFC.

 

* Prime Minister Nagamootoo and the AFC clearly understand that in the current constitution the power resides with the PRESIDENT.

 

* The AFC politicians, Prime Minister Nagamootoo, Minister Ramjattan, etc, etc want more less power for the President and more for the Prime Minister.

 

* They want the constitution re-written---And if they don't get there way it will be WAR.

 

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Originally Posted by Itaname:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. .

If you note that there are already potential seeds of dissent in the ranks why do you call me cobra?

 

What will be evident is that the PPP had a civil war and many of the losing side fled to the AFC.  But they remain PPP in mentality.  Look at the incessant praise of Cheddi.

 

Some might have viewed APNU as a means to an end.

 

I suggest that APNU identify who these people are and watch them.  Once the PPP stops crying and starts figuring out how to regain power, rest assured that if they dump Jagdeo, the replacement might try to reactivate ties with these elements, who might then blackmail APNU.

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Originally Posted by Observer:
 

You're a case study in double-crossing. You were a mole here pretending to be PPP; praising Mr. Ramotar, his wife, children, etc. I'm waiting to see your position in the new gov't.  

 

Ms Observer:

 

* Did you say case study in double crossing ? Thanks for the hearty laugh. You must be a brokenhearted genuine East Indian PPP supporter from Berbice, and so you are vexed with the Rev for being a gracious loser.  Next thing you'll be calling the Rev a DIRTY INDIAN.hahahahaha

 

* Listen! The Rev vehemently supported Ramotar and the PPP all the way to election day. But when I realized they were going to fall short, I decided to be a good loser and congratulate folks like Nagamootoo whom I had hammered ferociously during the campaign.

 

 

RE: MY POSITION ON THE NEW GOVERNMENT

 

* If they made decisions that are good for Guyana and Guyanese I will genuinely praise them. But if they screw up, and they will, it will be a joy pummeling them.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* Failures, defeats, losing---they are all good if you learn a lesson from them---hope the PPP learns why they couldn't convince 2700 voters to change their minds and vote for the PPP instead of the opposition----remember the PPP lost by 5400 votes.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Itaname:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. .

If you note that there are already potential seeds of dissent in the ranks why do you call me cobra?

 

What will be evident is that the PPP had a civil war and many of the losing side fled to the AFC.  But they remain PPP in mentality.  Look at the incessant praise of Cheddi.

 

Some might have viewed APNU as a means to an end.

 

I suggest that APNU identify who these people are and watch them.  Once the PPP stops crying and starts figuring out how to regain power, rest assured that if they dump Jagdeo, the replacement might try to reactivate ties with these elements, who might then blackmail APNU.

Interesting. I'm not going to share my feelings on this publicly.

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Originally Posted by alena06:
Originally Posted by Amral:

if we cannot put the past behind us how can we expect to progress. This is a new generation of Guyanese, it is pointless to try and poison their minds, all over the world changes are happening. Why are we reluctant to accept these changes. And as a matter of fact how many here actually have a true interest in Guyana, we are living the comfy life here, the Guyanese living over there back home seems to be embracing this new regime.

alena: No one is poisoning their minds.  Don't forget almost half of the people voted against the new Government, and feel they were cheated.  The Country is no way more United.

 

 

APNU/AFC...............207,200.........33 SEATS

PPP/C....................202,694.........32 SEATS

 

* APNU/AFC defeated the PPP by 4506 votes.

 

* A WIN IS A WIN REGARDLESS OF THE MARGIN---APNU/AFC WON

 

* The big question is can they govern the country better than the PPP ?

 

* We know under the PPP the country experienced positive growth rates and there were improvements both economically and socially.

 

* SO CAN THE COALITION DO BETTER THAN THE PPP ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY.

 

* I'll tell you what---the APNU/AFC politicians will be just as arrogant, pompous, self-absorbed, self-serving and corrupt as PPP politicians. And guess what ? Many of their supporters on GNI will turn a blind eye to their shenanigans.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by alena06:
Originally Posted by Amral:

if we cannot put the past behind us how can we expect to progress. This is a new generation of Guyanese, it is pointless to try and poison their minds, all over the world changes are happening. Why are we reluctant to accept these changes. And as a matter of fact how many here actually have a true interest in Guyana, we are living the comfy life here, the Guyanese living over there back home seems to be embracing this new regime.

alena: No one is poisoning their minds.  Don't forget almost half of the people voted against the new Government, and feel they were cheated.  The Country is no way more United.

 

 

APNU/AFC...............207,200.........33 SEATS

PPP/C....................202,694.........32 SEATS

 

* APNU/AFC defeated the PPP by 4506 votes.

 

* A WIN IS A WIN REGARDLESS OF THE MARGIN---APNU/AFC WON

 

* The big question is can they govern the country better than the PPP ?

 

* We know under the PPP the country experienced positive growth rates and there were improvements both economically and socially.

 

* SO CAN THE COALITION DO BETTER THAN THE PPP ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY.

 

* I'll tell you what---the APNU/AFC politicians will be just as arrogant, pompous, self-absorbed, self-serving and corrupt as PPP politicians. And guess what ? Many of their supporters on GNI will turn a blind eye to their shenanigans.

 

Rev

 

There were some economic improvements, but not social improvements. There was social retrogression under PPP.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Itaname:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. .

If you note that there are already potential seeds of dissent in the ranks why do you call me cobra?

 

What will be evident is that the PPP had a civil war and many of the losing side fled to the AFC.  But they remain PPP in mentality.  Look at the incessant praise of Cheddi.

 

Some might have viewed APNU as a means to an end.

 

I suggest that APNU identify who these people are and watch them.  Once the PPP stops crying and starts figuring out how to regain power, rest assured that if they dump Jagdeo, the replacement might try to reactivate ties with these elements, who might then blackmail APNU.

Frivolous racism, let's see how some of the presidential power-limiting change is received by the PNC.

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Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Rev:

 

 

APNU/AFC...............207,200.........33 SEATS

PPP/C....................202,694.........32 SEATS

 

* APNU/AFC defeated the PPP by 4506 votes.

 

* I'll tell you what---the APNU/AFC politicians will be just as arrogant, pompous, self-absorbed, self-serving and corrupt as PPP politicians. And guess what ? Many of their supporters on GNI will turn a blind eye to their shenanigans.

 

Rev

 

There were some economic improvements, but not social improvements. There was social retrogression under PPP.

Agreed, too much India-style thinking, poverty/wealth is a product of karma.

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Originally Posted by ksazma:

The Coalition ran as a single Contender. Outside of the 12 seats APNU agreed to award the AFC, there is no way to separate the votes casted on 5/11/15. If Granger finds a way to charge AFC with contempt and forfeit those seats, Moses will have no of materially siding with the PPP. Or is there one?

 

* Now you understand why Prime Minister is hell bent on changing the constitution---he knows Granger and the PNC can kick he and Ramjattan out on the curb in a jiffy.

 

* But once the constitution is changed and the president no longer has the power of recall---that means the AFC is more empowered---Granger can't mess with them.

 

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Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Rev:

 

 

APNU/AFC...............207,200.........33 SEATS

PPP/C....................202,694.........32 SEATS

 

* APNU/AFC defeated the PPP by 4506 votes.

 

* I'll tell you what---the APNU/AFC politicians will be just as arrogant, pompous, self-absorbed, self-serving and corrupt as PPP politicians. And guess what ? Many of their supporters on GNI will turn a blind eye to their shenanigans.

 

Rev

 

There were some economic improvements, but not social improvements. There was social retrogression under PPP.

Agreed, too much India-style thinking, poverty/wealth is a product of karma.

Damn backwardness!!

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Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Itaname:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Yuh jus like Cobra. Look how quick yuh done laff and now ready fuh cry again. On a serious note, the general tone from some AFC supporters here is discouraging. .

If you note that there are already potential seeds of dissent in the ranks why do you call me cobra?

 

What will be evident is that the PPP had a civil war and many of the losing side fled to the AFC.  But they remain PPP in mentality.  Look at the incessant praise of Cheddi.

 

Some might have viewed APNU as a means to an end.

 

I suggest that APNU identify who these people are and watch them.  Once the PPP stops crying and starts figuring out how to regain power, rest assured that if they dump Jagdeo, the replacement might try to reactivate ties with these elements, who might then blackmail APNU.

Frivolous racism, let's see how some of the presidential power-limiting change is received by the PNC.

baseman, please identify the "presidential power-limiting change[s]" you support

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Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Rev:

 

 

APNU/AFC...............207,200.........33 SEATS

PPP/C....................202,694.........32 SEATS

 

* APNU/AFC defeated the PPP by 4506 votes.

 

* I'll tell you what---the APNU/AFC politicians will be just as arrogant, pompous, self-absorbed, self-serving and corrupt as PPP politicians. And guess what ? Many of their supporters on GNI will turn a blind eye to their shenanigans.

 

Rev

 

There were some economic improvements, but not social improvements. There was social retrogression under PPP.

Agreed, too much India-style thinking, poverty/wealth is a product of karma.

Damn backwardness!!

Hey hey, dats abie.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Rev:
 

 

* I am 100% confident the PPP will support Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo regarding the changes in the constitution he is seeking.

 

*

 

 

Yes life is a bytch when you are in the opposition.

 

I am sure that he PPP will call for the sale of The Chronicle and NCN as well. 

Carib I have a question for you do you think government should own media entities like Chranicle and NCN?

 

You think this government can run them better?

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Rev you doing a good Job....

let me give you some more things

to hit them with.....

Just knock them one- one everyday

 

STATEMENT FROM MOSES NAGAMOOTOO.

STATEMENT TO THE MEDIA Dear Editors:

... KING LIARS: LIE,

YOU HEAR LIES? 

Rev post this on Day #1

LIE Number 1: Donald Ramotar said that I was a candidate of Balram Singh Rai’s Justice Party in 1964, and I helped to remove the PPP from office:

 

THAT’S A LIE: I was 17 years old in 1964. The Voting Age was 21.

I was too young to be on the Voters’ List; too young to vote.

How on earth could I have been a candidate for any party?

I joined the PPP on the 3rd October, 1964, and served for an unbroken period until my resignation in September, 2011.

In 1991, I was conferred with a Meritorious Award for serving the PPP with distinction continuously for over 25 years. That Certificate was signed by Cheddi Jagan and Donald Ramotar!

 

 

Rev post this on Day #2

LIE Number 2: Donald Ramotar said that in 1976 I was about to join the PNC along with Ranji Chandisingh, Vincent Teekah, Halim Majeed, et al.

 

THAT’S A LIE! During 1975-1977 Cheddi Jagan advocated “Talks” with the PNC, and I was in favour.

Others who opposed cooperation, rigged the 1976 PYO elections to oust several “pro-talks” young leaders.

I was dissatisfied but never left the PPP even though inducements were made to me by L.F.S. Burnham, Chandisingh and others.

Later, threats were used against me, but I refused to betray my leader and my party.

 

Rev post this on Day #3

LIE NO. 3: Bharrat Jagdeo and Donald Ramotar said I left PPP because I lost nomination as presidential candidate.

 

More Lies! I withdrew from the rigged process where party members were excluded from choosing a candidate.

Ramotar was hand-picked by a gang within the Central Committee.

I refused to appear before this body.

I informed Ramotar on 18th January, 2011 that “the CC has no mandate to select a candidate.

I now say emphatically that the exclusion of party members in selecting their presidential candidate is an irreversible and costly mistake”.

There was no election. Only a rigged selection.

 

 

 

Rev post this on Day #4

LIE NO. 4: Jagdeo and Ramotar said that I lied when I reported and repeated that Cheddi Jagan had named me in November 1996 possibly as his successor.

 

More Lies. On May 18, 2004 I reminded Donald Ramotar in a letter that “(T)here should be no myth about what Cheddi Jagan said at Lethem.

I want to see Robert Persaud going on record on this issue.

He was there!”

 

Jagdeo and Ramotar never before denied what Dr. Jagan said.

Ramotar tried to give it a “twist”.

On 8th June, 2004, this is what Donald Ramotar wrote to me under the caption: THE MENTION OF CDE CHEDDI OF YOUR NAME AS A POSSIBLE SUCCESSOR

 

“It is clear that Cde. Cheddi must have been saying that when he is no longer available the Party would be in good hands because it has capable leaders. He must have mentioned you in that context.” Ramotar never denied what Cheddi Jagan said! He only gave it his own twist.

 

Rev post this on Day #5

LIE NO. 5: Jagdeo said that one John Silas said to him that Cheddi Jagan never named me as his successor.

 

THAT’S A PUSSUR-PUSSUR LIE! John Silas was NOT present at the Lethem meeting.

I am on record as writing Donald Ramotar, in his capacity as PPP General Secretary, that “he would have known, that upon my return to Georgetown, I was summoned to an emergency Executive Committee meeting at Freedom House.

Party Organiser John Silas, who was not an ExCo member, was invited to the meeting, Comrade Janet demanded that I should explain “what happed at Lethem?”

“I related what Comrade Cheddi said, and my reaction to that by suppressing publication of the remarks that I could possibly be a replacement for him at the 1997 elections.

 

I explained why I had an angry argument with the Organiser [John Silas] for being absent from the meeting, when the microphones broke down;

how, when he told me that I had no authority to question him, I chided him for not hearing what Comrade Cheddi had said, and how I added sarcastically ‘You could be looking at the next president!’

 

” I added in my letter that “Comrade Cheddi was within hearing distance in the next room, while that brawl was going onâ€Ķ”.

 

That matter was never again raised in my presence with (President) Cheddi Jagan.

I was to be at his side until the fatal day that he was flown out from Guyana during February 1997, only to die days later.

He never denied what he had said at Lethem. End of story.

 

Rev post this on Day #6

LIE NO. 6: Jagdeo repeatedly said that I lied on Janet Jagan as she never promised that I should be Vice-President of Guyana.

 

MORE LIES: Twice when this issue came up, Ms. Jagan said she could not remember.

At 80 plus, it is fine not to remember. But she never denied.

She never said that I lied on her.

Mere days before her death, Ms. Jagan, my mentor as journalist,

on 5th March, 2009, in her own handwriting,

sent a note to me, with words of appreciation and fraternal affection.

She took pain to scribble that note, telling me that her hand was in cast as she had broken her shoulder.

Would she have done that if she felt that I had lied on her?

She had done so on many previous occasions, embracing my work as she did on 27th May, 2008 when she lauded my tribute to militant women in the Guyanese struggle:

“I’m glad they were remembered, to take their rightful places in our political history,” she wrote to me.

 

 

Rev post this on Day #7

LIE NO. 7: Ramotar said that I did nothing for the PPP in the last 10 years.

 

WHAT A LIE! It is the same Ramotar who wrote me on 8th June, 2004 in great appreciation, saying:

“Your suggestions and contributions to debates have always been valued and I and the Party leadership look forward to your continued contribution.”

 

And, more recently, on 21st July, 2006, he issued a press release, announcing: “The Executive Committee expects that Mr. Nagamootoo will shortly resume his useful role in the party.” That was days before I delivered victory in the 2006 elections!

 

Rev post this on Day #8

LIE NO. 8: Joey Jagan said that I am a soup drinker, a vagabond and opportunist.

 

KING LIAR! What soup-drinker would leave a teaching job earning G$180.00 monthly in 1970 to work for $114.00 (just over 50 US cents) as journalist at Mirror, staying on for the next 22 years at the side of Janet Jagan, my editor?

Which soup-drinker and opportunist would remain loyally at the side of Cheddi Jagan in the PPP for the unbroken 28 years in opposition under Burnham, and then another 12 years under Bharrat, and completed the proverbial 40 wilderness years?

 

Rev more Info - Day 9

Moses resigned twice as Government Minister in 1993 and again in 2000. A ministerial portfolio held no soup for me. I left the throne for the mudflat. I gave up privileges, perks and positions.

 

Rev more Info - Day 10

When I was in Cabinet, I opposed increase in Ministers’ salaries, but was out-voted.

 

Rev more Info - Day 11

I refused national award when I was recommended by Cheddi Jagan.

 

Rev more Info - Day 12

When I became Minister, I refused to leave my humble house to live in a state house.

 

Rev more Info - Day 13

I never travelled on a first-class air ticket, nor stayed at hotels overseas at government’s expense.

 

 

Rev more Info - Day 14

I refused a $15,000,000.00 loan from Jagdeo to buy a personal Prado, and choose instead to drive around in a second-hand government jeep.

 

Rev more Info - Day 15

And, whilst I worked as journalist for a foreign agency between 1985 and 1992, I donated my entire salary to the PPP to help pay decent wages to party organisers.

 

 

Rev more Info - Day 16

I am humbled to have attracted such great attention for my life’s work.

 

 

Rev more Info - Day 17

I wish I could have taken these garlands of thorns to my grave -- Judas, soup-drinker, traitor, neemakharaam, laurra, gutless, visionless, loser, vagabond, hypocrite, naga-dog, naga-goose, labaria, opportunist, ochro, etc.. EXCEPT, THESE ARE ALL LIES, DIRTY LIES!

 

Yours sincerely

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Rev......

Remember knock them one everyday....

dem cant beat you....

yuh aright.

Go knock yuhself out now...

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Observer:
 

You're a case study in double-crossing. You were a mole here pretending to be PPP; praising Mr. Ramotar, his wife, children, etc. I'm waiting to see your position in the new gov't.  

 

Ms Observer:

 

* Did you say case study in double crossing ? Thanks for the hearty laugh. You must be a brokenhearted genuine East Indian PPP supporter from Berbice, and so you are vexed with the Rev for being a gracious loser.  Next thing you'll be calling the Rev a DIRTY INDIAN.hahahahaha

 

* Listen! The Rev vehemently supported Ramotar and the PPP all the way to election day. But when I realized they were going to fall short, I decided to be a good loser and congratulate folks like Nagamootoo whom I had hammered ferociously during the campaign.

 

 

RE: MY POSITION ON THE NEW GOVERNMENT

 

* If they made decisions that are good for Guyana and Guyanese I will genuinely praise them. But if they screw up, and they will, it will be a joy pummeling them.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* Failures, defeats, losing---they are all good if you learn a lesson from them---hope the PPP learns why they couldn't convince 2700 voters to change their minds and vote for the PPP instead of the opposition----remember the PPP lost by 5400 votes.

 

Rev

Thanks for the hearty laugh, also. It just hit me like a ton of bricks what your job title is. This post of yours just confirms it. You did your job for the PPP and are now doing it for the new gov't! Good luck.

P.S.  Will we still be seeing all the picture graphics in your posts?

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PAGING JALIL BHAI:

 

 

* Your uncle Moses is now officially the Prime Minister of Guyana. There is an old saying, "he who laughs last laughs best." Well guess what ? Prime Minister Moses has had the last laugh. He now holds the 2nd highest office in Guyana and his 2 nemesis Jagdeo and Ramotar have been banished into the wilderness.

 

NOW JALIL PAY ATTENTION

 

* Tell your Uncle Moses that he must press ahead with plans to rewrite the constitution---especially the part where Granger can't recall MPs---once that provision is changed in the constitution---Prime Minister Moses will be a very powerful and influential man in Guyana.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

That is not democracy.  If you think that a bill is not in the best interest of the country, then you must be allowed to vote your way.  It shouldn't be the highway.. 

Ramotar and Jagdeo lost the election. Utho Bhai. Awake from your slumber and be fully aware of the reality.

Can they govern efficiently?

Would they revamp the Police Force?

 

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Originally Posted by Observer:
 

Thanks for the hearty laugh, also.

 

* You see that--the Rev can also be cheerful, easygoing and good-humored Glad you also had a hearty laugh.

 

* By the way Ms. Observer, did you know if you laugh a lot when you get older your wrinkles will be in the right place ?

 

* So keep laughing.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Yes life is a bytch when you are in the opposition.

 

I am sure that he PPP will call for the sale of The Chronicle and NCN as well. 

 

carib bai:

 

* Starting tomorrow both the Chronicle and NCN will become official mouthpieces of the PNC/AFC government.

 

* The hypocritical PPP can bray all they want, but the new administration will not part with those 2 news organizations.

 

Rev

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READ THIS:

 

 

* Now! We know President Granger made a ton of promises during the campaign. So what do you folks have to say about that comment above:

 

"HE(GRANGER) THAT PROMISES TOO MUCH MEANS NOTHING"

 

* This thread focuses mainly on the changes in the constitution promised by the coalition. And Prime Minister Nagamootoo is serious about pursuing changes in the constitution.

 

* BUT WILL PRESIDENT GRANGER BE OPEN TO CHANGES IN THE CONSTITUTION NOW THAT HE IS THE BIG KAHUNA ?

 

* By the way, any changes in the constitution, as correctly pointed out by poster Demerara-Guy requires 66% support in parliament---that means the PPP must be on board----they cannot be ignored by the coalition.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* Many of the promises made by Granger during the campaign will turn out to be empty---just wait and see---but who cares---207,200 voters in Guyana happy---their man Granger is President---the other 202,694 can go to hell.

 

Rev

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THE PRIME MINISTER MAY BE SHORT BUT THE MAN HAS SPUNK---CHECK HIS FOLDED FISTS----THOSE FISTS FLOORED THE PPP-----THEY LOST BY 4506 VOTES

 

 

 

FIRST 100 DAYS

 

The coalition has produced a 100 day plan that entails the review of taxes, increase of salaries and old age pension, an anti-corruption fight, liberalization of the Telecommunication and ICT sectors, several task forces on crime and security, and benefits for Guyana’s small miners.

 

* No mention of Constitution reform---that is not exactly a priority of President Granger---it is, however, a priority of the Prime Minister---he wants his office to be imbued with more power.

 

* Interesting times ahead folks! This coalition will be fun to follow.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Rev:
 

 

* I am 100% confident the PPP will support Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo regarding the changes in the constitution he is seeking.

 

*

 

 

Yes life is a bytch when you are in the opposition.

 

I am sure that he PPP will call for the sale of The Chronicle and NCN as well. 

Carib I have a question for you do you think government should own media entities like Chranicle and NCN?

 

You think this government can run them better?

NO.  They should be sold. All that is needed is the Information Service which will have its own website and distribute its news through the various media outlets.

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Originally Posted by Rev:
 

* We know under the PPP the country experienced positive growth rates and there were improvements both economically and socially.


 

Rev

Rev, it is a myth that GDP growth accounted largely by price movements in your exports is what you can call "positive growth".

 

Improvements economically means a few things, like:

  • The proportion of primary products in the export earnings is less than before and the proportion of value-added exports increases.
  • The skill level of the workforce increases relative to the unskilled portion of the workforce.

Now tell me if the PPP/C government enacted legislation that favors a skilled manufacturing zone - fiscal and tax incentives, tariff incentives, subsidies, etc. - and education to replace workers who would be displaced by a de-emphasis on sugar production.

 

Tell me if in awarding bandwidth spectrum for wireless communications did the PPP/C engender growth and investment and technology transfer by either domestic capital or foreign.

 

You need to stop bandying about numbers before you know what the hell they mean.

 

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Originally Posted by Kari:
 

Rev, it is a myth that GDP growth accounted largely by price movements in your exports is what you can call "positive growth".

 

 

KariMullah:

 

* Since we are talking of  GDP, I wish to make it clear that I fully agree with Simon Kuznets, the creator of the GDP, who once wrote "the welfare of a nation can scarcely be inferred from a measurement of its national income as defined by the GDP--goals for more growth should specify of what and for what."

 

* Having said that, no one can deny that Real GDP growth rates in Guyana the past 9 years have been positive. Here are the numbers:

 

GUYANA'S REAL GDP GROWTH

 

2006 5.1%

2007 7.0%

2008 2.0%

2009 3.3%

2010 4.4%

2011 5.4%

2012 4.8%

2013 5.2%

2014 3.3% --estimated

2015 3.8% --est

 

* Do you see those REAL GDP Growth numbers for Guyana Mullah ?

 

* You are free to chat about "myth" and what have you---you'll get no arguments form the Rev.

 

* But in the coming 5 years we'll take a look at the Real GDP growth rates under the PNC/AFC and make a comparison with the PPP years.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by caribny:

Rev you do see a decline in growth rate, which reflects the reduced impact of gold prices.

 

 

carib:

 

* Absolutely! Take a look at the GDP growth rates back in 2011 when gold was around $1900---it was 5.4%; in 2014 Gold ranged between 1200 and 1400 and the estimated GDP growth rate in Guyana was 3.3%

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE

 

* Guyana's Real GDP growth rates the past 9 years have been positive.

 

* The Rev will be keeping a close eye on the GDP growth rates under the PNC/AFC.

 

Rev

 

 

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Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

AFC=Kingmaker

The tail will wag the dog, the new reality in Guyana.

The agenda of the PPP should be:

Dump Jagdeo and Ramotar.

Move a motion in parliament to revise the pension package of ex-presidents.

Move a motion to amend the constitution.

The PPP must take the initiatives.

 

 

"To Those who vote PPP." www.timehritoday.blogspot.com

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Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

AFC=Kingmaker

The tail will wag the dog, the new reality in Guyana.

The agenda of the PPP should be:

Dump Jagdeo and Ramotar.

Move a motion in parliament to revise the pension package of ex-presidents.

Move a motion to amend the constitution.

The PPP must take the initiatives.

 

 

"To Those who vote PPP." www.timehritoday.blogspot.com

The PPP has to reinvent itself.

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RE: RICE & SUGAR PRODUCTION UNDER THE PNC/AFC

 

 

* We all know rice production boomed during the PPP years---in 2014 a record 633,000 tons was produced.

 

* Sugar has struggled but the PPP was hoping to raise sugar production to 400,000 tons by 2020

 

QUESTION:

 

* Prime Minister Nagamootoo will be in charge of the Agriculture Ministry. Will rice farmers be motivated to keep producing in record numbers under the PNC/AFC ?

 

* How about sugar---will the industry be shuttered by the PNC/AFC ?

 

Rev

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caincainTired old hippie
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

AFC=Kingmaker

The tail will wag the dog, the new reality in Guyana.

The agenda of the PPP should be:

Dump Jagdeo and Ramotar.

Move a motion in parliament to revise the pension package of ex-presidents.

Move a motion to amend the constitution.

The PPP must take the initiatives.

 

 

"To Those who vote PPP." www.timehritoday.blogspot.com

The PPP has to reinvent itself.

Ah believe Professor Professor Shaits got dat job, he does invent stuff, doan know what but I know he does invent stuff.

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Jimmy Carter congratulates Granger

 

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter issued the following statement today:

Jimmy CarterJimmy Carter

“I would like to congratulate President David Granger and the APNU/AFC coalition on their success in the 2015 election. I have great expectations that the new government will reach out and promote healing and reconciliation in Guyana. It is now time for all Guyanese to unite and work together to realize the great potential of their country.”

The Carter Center deployed more than 50 observers throughout all 10 regions of Guyana for the 2015 general and regional elections. Its observers remained in the country to monitor the process of tabulating and declaring results, a statement from the Carter Center said.

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

The PPP has to reinvent itself.

 

 

* Thanks to that man the PPP lost by a massive 4506 votes. 

 

* This thread is a tribute to the esteemed Prime Minister.

 

* The Prime Minister was pissed on and denigrated by many, included the Rev, but he ended up making fools out of all of us.

 

* The Rev is rooting for the Prime Minister to succeed in his position.

 

* But lemme be blunt! Unless the constitution is changed to at least remove the President's power to recall---then the Prime Minister will be powerless---the Prime Minister knows this.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Granger will not allow the Constitution to be changed oe should he?

If there was a recount and the PPP received the 100 votes they needed to get the other regional seat, then the PPP would have still be in power.

 

 

Rama Bhai:

 

* There is no word like IF after the fact.

 

* The fact is Guyana has a new President and a new Prime Minister.

 

RE: GRANGER & THE CONSTITUTION

 

* Well, when Cheddi took office in 1992 he and his boys were quite happy with the Burnham constitution, so Guyanese can all expect Granger and his PNC supporters to be satisfied with the Burnham constitution.

 

* Of course, Prime Minister Nagamootoo from the AFC will insist that changes be made and the President's power be diminished.

 

* It is left to be seen if the Prime Minister will make any headway.

 

Rev

 

 

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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Is the Most Reverend a staunch supporter of Moses ?

 

 

* You do realize that the esteemed Prime Minister is impotent under the Burnham constitution.

 

* The Prime Minister is fully aware of this and is hell bent on making sure that Granger's presidential powers are cut and the Prime Minister's powers are increased.

 

* It will be fun observing the tug of war between the President and the Prime Minister in the coming years.

 

* Maybe you don't understand the Rev's motives---The Rev wants to see war between the President and Prime Minister regarding the rewriting of the constitution.

 

* It's all hunky-dory between the PNC President and the AFC Prime Minister right now, but let's give them time to settle in.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Carib, I hope you stop blaming the coolie man for all the blackman problems. Let's see how you address the problems of the blackman now that a PNC goernment is in power. And yes, I am invoking race in this.

What fight - there is the Cummingburg Accord that sets out who get what.

 

AFC gets 12 seats and they done name them.

 

AFC gets 4 Ministries and they done name them - Home Affairs, Public Works, Trade and Tourism and Agriculture.

 

They get 40% of all boards and regional council seats allocated to the coalition.

 

Simple maths.

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Then the 12 MP are (1/3 women and 2 amerindians)

 

1. Moses Nagamootoo,

 

2. Khemraj Ramjattan,

 

3. Valerie Lowe,

 

4. David Patterson, 

 

5. Sarah Punalal.

 

6.  Charandass Persaud 

 

7.  Veersammy Ramaya (region 6 Rep)

 

8. Cathy Hughes

 

9.  amerindian from region 8

 

10.  Raphel trotman

 

11.  woman

 

12. Youth

 

 

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Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Carib, I hope you stop blaming the coolie man for all the blackman problems. Let's see how you address the problems of the blackman now that a PNC goernment is in power. And yes, I am invoking race in this.

 

Skeldon Bhai:

 

* As long as Granger is President, afro Guyanese will have zero problems. You will not hear a single complaint from them about economic hardships or difficulties. What a loyal set of people.

 

Listen! PNC people in Guyana are in HOG'S HEAVEN right now.

 

The most literal sense of the expression "hog heaven" is a filthy pig sty with plenty of fresh slop on which to feed. Thus the pigs would be just about as happy as they could be.

 

* The PNC/AFC won by 4506 votes---that made for a heavenly experience for all PNC/AFC supporters.

 

Rev

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The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

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Originally Posted by baseman:

The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

EVIDENCE of FRAUD!

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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Moses wants to change the rules half way through the game...

 

Don't trust the PNC and Caribj...

RULES = CUMMINGSBURG ACCOPRD.  Read it and stop posting ignorance.

It has nothing to do with the Alliance handshake agreement.

Alright, August 30th will give you all the answer.

 

Sorry May 26th will provide all answers.

 

The full cabinet and MPs will be in place.

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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Moses wants to change the rules half way through the game...

 

Don't trust the PNC and Caribj...

RULES = CUMMINGSBURG ACCOPRD.  Read it and stop posting ignorance.

It has nothing to do with the Alliance handshake agreement.

Then it has everything to do with some Black Label  or your Mental lated Spirits.

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Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Moses wants to change the rules half way through the game...

 

Don't trust the PNC and Caribj...

RULES = CUMMINGSBURG ACCOPRD.  Read it and stop posting ignorance.

It has nothing to do with the Alliance handshake agreement.

Then it has everything to do with some Black Label  or your Mental lated Spirits.

I thought you were less stupid...

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Originally Posted by baseman:

The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

 

* You may very well be hitting the nail on the head there Mr. baseman.

 

Rev

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Mr.TMr.TI pity the fool

Ain't it funny. The PPP analysts on GNI failed to deliver the victory they guaranteed. Now they are using their failed and discredited stupidity to try to sell the AFC some BS. Or maybe they are looking for a new job after the PPP money stop coming in.

Baseman has seen his party shredded to pieces at the election, even though he was full of racial advise to Jagdeo. Now he shouting that Jagdeo was not good for the party. At the same time he claimin the PNC is no good to the AFC. Desperate times has turned Rama, Baseman, Cobra etc into desperate liars.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Ain't it funny. The PPP analysts on GNI failed to deliver the victory they guaranteed.

 

 

* The Rev finds that a lot of you PNC/AFC supporters on GNI seem lost---you have been losers for such a long time that now your party has won, you just don't know how to enjoy the victory.

 

* Listen people! The PPP has been kicked out of office. Let's see if your beloved PNC/AFC will surpass the economic performance of the PPP over the next 5 years.

 

* WILL GUYANA & GUYANESE BE BETTER OFF UNDER THE PNC/AFC.

 

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Mr.TMr.TI pity the fool

Rev, the PPP had 23 years in office and have turned Guyana in a failed state. It will take more than one election for the coalition to bail out this sinking ship, tow it to harbour, and repair it so that it is sea worthy again. Right now we have no idea if the central bank has any money left. The PPP has been busy doing foreign transfers up to the moment of their ejection from parliament.

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Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Rev, the PPP had 23 years in office and have turned Guyana in a failed state.

 

Mr. T:

 

STOP LYING! GUYANA IS NOT A FAILED STATE.

 

* Look the elections are over and your beloved PNC/AFC won, so no need to keep lying.

 

CHECK THIS:

 

* When the PPP took over in 1992 the country was bankrupted and pauperized by the PNC.

 

* In 2015 the PNC/AFC takes over a country that has experienced positive Real GDP growth rates the past 9 years.

 

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Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

If OBAMA didn't interfere, we would have delivered. 

Obama is a good man.  GOD BLESS AMERICA.

You all scrunt think that America not watching the PPP and their narco trafficking buddies.

 

LOL  - America works in mysterious ways.

America is the receiver.  All you people are on drugs.  The jails are full of addicts.   Your presidents didn't inhale were their excuses.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

 

* You may very well be hitting the nail on the head there Mr. baseman.

 

Rev

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

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Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

 

* You may very well be hitting the nail on the head there Mr. baseman.

 

Rev

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

 

FROM WHERE I SIT, I SHALL SUPPORT A CLEAN DAVID GRANGER ANY DAY THAN A CROOKED JAGDEO.

 

I am East Indian and Hindu.

 

This shyte got nothing to do with Indian or Black.

 

It got to do with how we rule the country.

 

Let Jagdeo explain the source of funds for the mansion first.

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Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

 

* You may very well be hitting the nail on the head there Mr. baseman.

 

Rev

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

 

FROM WHERE I SIT, I SHALL SUPPORT A CLEAN DAVID GRANGER ANY DAY THAN A CROOKED JAGDEO.

 

I am East Indian and Hindu.

 

This shyte got nothing to do with Indian or Black.

 

It got to do with how we rule the country.

 

Let Jagdeo explain the source of funds for the mansion first.

Flour boy, you don't have to tell me who you are, we know who you are, and you fit the mold very well.  Now, which of the 12 seats you getting?

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

 

As I said.  Let the PPP transform itself into  avalid multi racial party by dumping this coolie party with a few black tokens nonsense.  Find black people with a valid black constituency.  People who have been known to advocate on behalf of Afro Guyanese people, and therefore trusted by them.

 

In other words learn from APNU and the AFC.  They won because there was  small swing Indo vote combined with the African and mixed vote.  This outnumbered the PPPs scared Indo vote and purchased Amerindian vote.

 

BTW, lacking largesse over the next 5 years the PPP will no longer have its Amerindian vote, unless the coalition govt is stupid, and neglects these people.  In addition the small black/mixed vote that the PPP got will probably not be there either as much of it was from milk drinkers voting for the people who they assumed would have won.....people like Dizzy Lizzy.

 

How can a group which is going to be just over 35% of the population by 2020 think that they can form an Indo government.  If the PPP continues to be racist then they will be punished for it.

 

BTW of the coalition performs and succeeds in demonstrating that multi ethnic govt can work the swing Indian vote will be even larger.

 

 

So basemen, shift your thinking form Indo this and Indo that, and understand that, ethnic groups aren't monolithic, and that no ethnic can stand outside of a multi ethnic environments and still succeed.

 

 

I warned you and Shaitaan about this and yet you both stuck to this ethnically exclusive Indo tribal model.

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Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:

OK let the APNU AFC fight begin.

Carib, I hope you stop blaming the coolie man for all the blackman problems. Let's see how you address the problems of the blackman now that a PNC goernment is in power. And yes, I am invoking race in this.

What fight - there is the Cummingburg Accord that sets out who get what.

 

AFC gets 12 seats and they done name them.

 

AFC gets 4 Ministries and they done name them - Home Affairs, Public Works, Trade and Tourism and Agriculture.

 

They get 40% of all boards and regional council seats allocated to the coalition.

 

Simple maths.

I thought you said they done name them.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

Should despair because you cannot get beyond your Indo tribal mode.

 

As I said.  Let the PPP transform itself into  avalid multi racial party by dumping this coolie party with a few black tokens nonsense.  Find black people with a valid black constituency.  People who have been known to advocate on behalf of Afro Guyanese people, and therefore trusted by them.

 

In other words learn from APNU and the AFC.  They won because there was  small swing Indo vote combined with the African and mixed vote.  This outnumbered the PPPs scared Indo vote and purchased Amerindian vote.

 

BTW, lacking largesse over the next 5 years the PPP will no longer have its Amerindian vote, unless the coalition govt is stupid, and neglects these people.  In addition the small black/mixed vote that the PPP got will probably not be there either as much of it was from milk drinkers voting for the people who they assumed would have won.....people like Dizzy Lizzy.

 

How can a group which is going to be just over 35% of the population by 2020 think that they can form an Indo government.  If the PPP continues to be racist then they will be punished for it.

 

BTW of the coalition performs and succeeds in demonstrating that multi ethnic govt can work the swing Indian vote will be even larger.

 

 

So basemen, shift your thinking form Indo this and Indo that, and understand that, ethnic groups aren't monolithic, and that no ethnic can stand outside of a multi ethnic environments and still succeed.

 

 

I warned you and Shaitaan about this and yet you both stuck to this ethnically exclusive Indo tribal model.

I do believe the PPP should have reinvent themselves a long time ago.  This was not my point.  As I said, the blame lies at their feet.  I do believe both parties should be more multi-ethnic.  Read again and understand my position.  AFC jump the gun and fell for quantitative measures over qualitative.

 

Hear me out in simple terms.  I DON'T SEE GRANGER GRANTING NAGAMOOTOO THE CHANGES HE WANTS.  Absolute power now lies with the PNC as it did pre-1992 and presents a clear opportunity for an era of "neo-Burnhamism".  Nothing stands in they way except the good intentions of any PNC leader.

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

I do believe the PPP should have reinvent themselves a long time ago.  This was not my point.  As I said, the blame lies at their feet.  I do believe both parties should be more multi-ethnic.  Read again and understand my position.  AFC jump the gun and fell for quantitative measures over qualitative.

 

Hear me out in simple terms.  I DON'T SEE GRANGER GRANTING NAGAMOOTOO THE CHANGES HE WANTS.  Absolute power now lies with the PNC as it did pre-1992 and presents a clear opportunity for an era of "neo-Burnhamism".  Nothing stands in they way except the good intentions of any PNC leader.

More paranoia on your part.

 

1.  People screamed that Granger will renege.  Well to their disappointment they now see that he isn't as the cabinet begins to be assembled and MPs are being named.

 

2. Armed with 12 seats the AFC can demolish the coalition government if Granger uses the constitution to exclude them.

 

3. APNU with 21 seats will crumble in the face of a combined PPP AFC MONC and they will lose that election.  Granger will then need to explain as to why he allowed that to happen.

 

Its no point talking about the fact that people ought to have multi racial coalitions, and then pour hot water when one is staring at you.

 

FACT.  The AFC promised a new constitution and will benefit from it.  FACT.  If APNU drags their feet this will be the trigger that might lead to an APNU AFC conflict.  FACT.  The PPP in opposition will also want a new constitution.

 

So there will be discussions about a new constitution.

 

BTW the PPPs idea of a multi racial coalition is to remain an Indian party, and appoint some black tokens who lack a black constituency, and who have no known track record in advocating on behalf of Afro Guyanese.  Black people aren't going to buy that, so the PPP will have to change its entire mentality.  I don't see that with its existing leadership because Jagdeo is a proven racist.

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Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Ain't it funny. The PPP analysts on GNI failed to deliver the victory they guaranteed. Now they are using their failed and discredited stupidity to try to sell the AFC some BS. Or maybe they are looking for a new job after the PPP money stop coming in.

Baseman has seen his party shredded to pieces at the election, even though he was full of racial advise to Jagdeo. Now he shouting that Jagdeo was not good for the party. At the same time he claimin the PNC is no good to the AFC. Desperate times has turned Rama, Baseman, Cobra etc into desperate liars.

 

 

You really believed that people posting on GNI actually got paid by the PPP?

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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Ain't it funny. The PPP analysts on GNI failed to deliver the victory they guaranteed. Now they are using their failed and discredited stupidity to try to sell the AFC some BS. Or maybe they are looking for a new job after the PPP money stop coming in.

Baseman has seen his party shredded to pieces at the election, even though he was full of racial advise to Jagdeo. Now he shouting that Jagdeo was not good for the party. At the same time he claimin the PNC is no good to the AFC. Desperate times has turned Rama, Baseman, Cobra etc into desperate liars.

 

 

You really believed that people posting on GNI actually got paid by the PPP?

Some of them did.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

I do believe the PPP should have reinvent themselves a long time ago.  This was not my point.  As I said, the blame lies at their feet.  I do believe both parties should be more multi-ethnic.  Read again and understand my position.  AFC jump the gun and fell for quantitative measures over qualitative.

 

Hear me out in simple terms.  I DON'T SEE GRANGER GRANTING NAGAMOOTOO THE CHANGES HE WANTS.  Absolute power now lies with the PNC as it did pre-1992 and presents a clear opportunity for an era of "neo-Burnhamism".  Nothing stands in they way except the good intentions of any PNC leader.

More paranoia on your part.

 

1.  People screamed that Granger will renege.  Well to their disappointment they now see that he isn't as the cabinet begins to be assembled and MPs are being named.

 

2. Armed with 12 seats the AFC can demolish the coalition government if Granger uses the constitution to exclude them.

 

3. APNU with 21 seats will crumble in the face of a combined PPP AFC MONC and they will lose that election.  Granger will then need to explain as to why he allowed that to happen.

 

Its no point talking about the fact that people ought to have multi racial coalitions, and then pour hot water when one is staring at you.

 

FACT.  The AFC promised a new constitution and will benefit from it.  FACT.  If APNU drags their feet this will be the trigger that might lead to an APNU AFC conflict.  FACT.  The PPP in opposition will also want a new constitution.

 

So there will be discussions about a new constitution.

 

BTW the PPPs idea of a multi racial coalition is to remain an Indian party, and appoint some black tokens who lack a black constituency, and who have no known track record in advocating on behalf of Afro Guyanese.  Black people aren't going to buy that, so the PPP will have to change its entire mentality.  I don't see that with its existing leadership because Jagdeo is a proven racist.

Caribj, you are a very smart guy, you know all this is window dressing.  But, I don't blame you, you ought to be gleeful, all Afro "ethnic Security" issues have been fully accomplished.  You are now in "heaven".

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Caribj, you are a very smart guy, you know all this is window dressing.  But, I don't blame you, you ought to be gleeful, all Afro "ethnic Security" issues have been fully accomplished.  You are now in "heaven".

Baseman.  Continue to mourn.  A small Indo swing vote combined with others to install a coalition.  If this coalition succeeds a LARGER Indo swing vote will emerge as people like you will no longer be able to scare them with "black man gun rape yo daughter" which you all engaged in a few weeks ago.

 

Join the rest of the world baseman.  The population of Guyana is 60% non Indian identified.  Your Hindutva paradis cannot ever exist in Guyana AGAIN.  Now you can either join the rest of Guyana, or you can sulk in the corner.

 

 

BTW the African insecurity dilemma is no more solved now than the Indian insecurity dilemma was resolved under the PPP.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Caribj, you are a very smart guy, you know all this is window dressing.  But, I don't blame you, you ought to be gleeful, all Afro "ethnic Security" issues have been fully accomplished.  You are now in "heaven".

Baseman.  Continue to mourn.  A small Indo swing vote combined with others to install a coalition.  If this coalition succeeds a LARGER Indo swing vote will emerge as people like you will no longer be able to scare them with "black man gun rape yo daughter" which you all engaged in a few weeks ago.

 

Join the rest of the world baseman.  The population of Guyana is 60% non Indian identified.  Your Hindutva paradis cannot ever exist in Guyana AGAIN.  Now you can either join the rest of Guyana, or you can sulk in the corner.

 

 

BTW the African insecurity dilemma is no more solved now than the Indian insecurity dilemma was resolved under the PPP.

Did I not say the PPP screwed up by not becoming more multi-ethnic?  I support multi-ethnic politics.  Let's see if Granger and the PNC power structure allows AFC to be "independent minded".

 

The issue you see, it's all up to the gratuity of whoever the PNC/GDF leader is.  And we know how that went for 28 years.

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Ain't it funny. The PPP analysts on GNI failed to deliver the victory they guaranteed. Now they are using their failed and discredited stupidity to try to sell the AFC some BS. Or maybe they are looking for a new job after the PPP money stop coming in.

Baseman has seen his party shredded to pieces at the election, even though he was full of racial advise to Jagdeo. Now he shouting that Jagdeo was not good for the party. At the same time he claimin the PNC is no good to the AFC. Desperate times has turned Rama, Baseman, Cobra etc into desperate liars.

 

 

You really believed that people posting on GNI actually got paid by the PPP?

Some of them did.

Good. Now they have to get real jobs that pays real money. 

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Did I not say the PPP screwed up by not becoming more multi-ethnic?  I support multi-ethnic politics.  .

No you don't because if you did you would give the first multi ethnic alliance in post independence Guyana a chance to operate. 

 

You would see that, contrary to your screams, the AFC will get their share of MP slots and cabinet positions as was agreed. And you would acknowledge the fact that the AFC has  a gun to the head of APNU and the ability to pull the trigger when ever they wish.

 

And yes, if APNU doesn't allow discussions on a new constitution, and the PPP does, then there will be an MONC and yes. your PPP will be back.

 

Your idea of multi ethnic politics is an Indo party with a few black tokens and when blacks reject those tokens, as they did Sam Hinds, you will scream how racist they are!

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Did I not say the PPP screwed up by not becoming more multi-ethnic?  I support multi-ethnic politics.  .

No you don't because if you did you would give the first multi ethnic alliance in post independence Guyana a chance to operate. 

 

You would see that, contrary to your screams, the AFC will get their share of MP slots and cabinet positions as was agreed. And you would acknowledge the fact that the AFC has  a gun to the head of APNU and the ability to pull the trigger when ever they wish.

 

And yes, if APNU doesn't allow discussions on a new constitution, and the PPP does, then there will be an MONC and yes. your PPP will be back.

 

Your idea of multi ethnic politics is an Indo party with a few black tokens and when blacks reject those tokens, as they did Sam Hinds, you will scream how racist they are!

Was I not always critical of CBJ for not reaching out to the PNC when he won in 1992?  I always held this position even when the PPP was solidly winning?  I reiterated this position in 2011.  I always contend that 40% feeling excluded, real of perception, is reality in their minds and needs to be addressed.  YOU KNOW this was one of the key criticisms I had of the Jagans/PPP.   Why then am I am "Indoist", as you like to say?

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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Did I not say the PPP screwed up by not becoming more multi-ethnic?  I support multi-ethnic politics.  .

No you don't because if you did you would give the first multi ethnic alliance in post independence Guyana a chance to operate. 

 

You would see that, contrary to your screams, the AFC will get their share of MP slots and cabinet positions as was agreed. And you would acknowledge the fact that the AFC has  a gun to the head of APNU and the ability to pull the trigger when ever they wish.

 

And yes, if APNU doesn't allow discussions on a new constitution, and the PPP does, then there will be an MONC and yes. your PPP will be back.

 

Your idea of multi ethnic politics is an Indo party with a few black tokens and when blacks reject those tokens, as they did Sam Hinds, you will scream how racist they are!

Honestly, I don't want to see THIS PPP back.  They received a trashing for a reason.  I really don't like their attitude.  I want a multi-ethnic party with solid checks and balance within.

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Was I not always critical of CBJ for not reaching out to the PNC when he won in 1992?  I always held this position even when the PPP was solidly winning?  I reiterated this position in 2011.  I always contend that 40% feeling excluded, real of perception, is reality in their minds and needs to be addressed.  YOU KNOW this was one of the key criticisms I had of the Jagans/PPP.   Why then am I am "Indoist", as you like to say?

Actually in the early days my memory of you is more defined by your anecdotes of black laziness and shiftlessness and your assertions that the arrival of Indians saved Guyana from being another Haiti.  This frames my image of you.  As such blatant bigotry as fallen out of style on GNI you have ceased to be so obvious.

 

I do not advocate two major parties coalescing when both have a reputation for being inept. Any democracy needs an opposition.  Both the governing party and the lead opposition party will have to be multi ethnic if they plan to exist.  Shifting demographics with a  rapidly declining Indian population, and a growing mixed population dictate that.

 

So on May 11 2015 a swing Indo vote joined Africans and mixed people to ATTEMPT to create a multi racial democracy.  Because it isn't PPP dominated you are pouring acid on it.

 

The PPP FAILED to attempt multi ethnic governance and so were rejected. The APNU AFC are attempting multi ethnic governance and so won the election.

 

So why your screams?

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Honestly, I don't want to see THIS PPP back.  They received a trashing for a reason.  I really don't like their attitude.  I want a multi-ethnic party with solid checks and balance within.

And you have a multi ethnic government with solid checks and balances.

 

Here is the deal.  MOSES FAILED TO bring in a large Indian vote as the PPP was successful about "Moses is not an Indian" and combined that with "black man gun rape yu daughter" to terrify Indians out.  They gained 35k votes, mainly from Indians, though some from Amerindians, whose votes the bought with a tax payer funded spending spree.

 

DESPITE that Moses was given a gun by Granger with the ability to pull the trigger and kill the APNU AFC coalition, and with that an APNU dominated government.

 

Talk about checks and balances.

 

And the true test of this will be discussions on the constitution.

 

Now explain in detail why you think that the AFC will not move to change it when it is the AFC who will be the LARGEST beneficiaries of a more democratic constitution?  AND the AFC has it its disposal the ability to pull the trigger and end the life of the APNU dominated government.

 

What more do you want?

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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

 

Baseman:

 

* If President Granger chooses to keep the Burnham constitution fully intact---that means he will continue to have the power of recall among 1000 other powers---so with no changes to the constitution---what you said above may very well turn out to be true.

 

* Anyway, these are different times in Guyana---we live in 2015 not 1968---I refuse to believe Prime Minister Nagamootoo will remain quiet on the issue of the Guyana constitution and the need for changes.

 

* The way the Rev is reading things---The AFC Prime Minister is determined to have his office imbued with more POWER---and he was less power for the PNC President.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

 

Baseman:

 

* If President Granger chooses to keep the Burnham constitution fully intact---that means he will continue to have the power of recall among 1000 other powers---so with no changes to the constitution---what you said above may very well turn out to be true.

 

* Anyway, these are different times in Guyana---we live in 2015 not 1968---I refuse to believe Prime Minister Nagamootoo will remain quiet on the issue of the Guyana constitution and the need for changes.

 

* The way the Rev is reading things---The AFC Prime Minister is determined to have his office imbued with more POWER---and he was less power for the PNC President.

 

Rev (Loser)

Rev (Loser) you have no credibility. You lack integrity.

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Originally Posted by caribny:
 

The PPP FAILED to attempt multi ethnic governance and so were rejected. The APNU AFC are attempting multi ethnic governance and so won the election.

 

carib:

 

* That was, indeed, a huge, massive loss by the PPP. Let's look at the numbers again:

 

207,200 votes = APNU/AFC

202,694 votes = PPP/C

 

* The APNU/AFC coalition defeated the PPP/C by a humongous 4506 votes---that was some rejection by the Guyana electorate.

 

* Regarding Region 8---APNU/AFC(1837 votes) won that region by an impressive 1 vote over the PPP/C(1836 votes).

 

* Oh well! Let's see how much better the multi-ehnic PNC/AFC rules the country than the homogenous PPP.

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

The PPP FAILED to attempt multi ethnic governance and so were rejected. The APNU AFC are attempting multi ethnic governance and so won the election.

 

carib:

 

* That was, indeed, a huge, massive loss by the PPP. Let's look at the numbers again:

 

207,200 votes = APNU/AFC

202,694 votes = PPP/C

 

* The APNU/AFC coalition defeated the PPP/C by a humongous 4506 votes---that was some rejection by the Guyana electorate.

 

* Regarding Region 8---APNU/AFC(1837 votes) won that region by an impressive 1 vote over the PPP/C(1836 votes).

 

* Oh well! Let's see how much better the multi-ehnic PNC/AFC rules the country than the homogenous PPP.

 

Rev

Rev ( loser) you are very boring. Go play with yourself and stick your numbers up your poop chute.

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CHECK THIS OUT GNI PNC/AFC supporters:

 

Under the PPP government Guyana experienced POSITIVE REAL GDP GROWTH in each of the last 9 years.

 

GUYANA'S REAL GDP GROWTH

 

2006 5.1%

2007 7.0%

2008 2.0%

2009 3.3%

2010 4.4%

2011 5.4%

2012 4.8%

2013 5.2%

2014 3.3% --estimated

2015 3.8% --est

 

QUESTION:

 

* Now that the PNC/AFC has taken over the government will the positive GDP GROWTH RATES continue or will the PNC/AFC muck things up and we'll shortly see a negative GDP growth rate number ?

 

Rev

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Originally Posted by Rev:

CHECK THIS OUT GNI PNC/AFC supporters:

 

Under the PPP government Guyana experienced POSITIVE REAL GDP GROWTH in each of the last 9 years.

 

GUYANA'S REAL GDP GROWTH

 

2006 5.1%

2007 7.0%

2008 2.0%

2009 3.3%

2010 4.4%

2011 5.4%

2012 4.8%

2013 5.2%

2014 3.3% --estimated

2015 3.8% --est

 

QUESTION:

 

* Now that the PNC/AFC has taken over the government will the positive GDP GROWTH RATES continue or will the PNC/AFC muck things up and we'll shortly see a negative GDP growth rate number ?

 

Rev (loser)

Rev (Loser), those numbers are false. You have no credibility nor integrity.

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Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Rev ( loser) you are very boring. Go play with yourself and stick your numbers up your poop chute.

Mitwah's obsession on these are quite revealing.

Now that is a statement for the ages.  Proverbs 28:26 talks about you.

Meanwhile you talk about yourself and what you say is very disturbing.

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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Rev ( loser) you are very boring. Go play with yourself and stick your numbers up your poop chute.

Mitwah's obsession on these are quite revealing.

Now that is a statement for the ages.  Proverbs 28:26 talks about you.

Meanwhile you talk about yourself and what you say is very disturbing.

Fool, now that is another statement for the ages.  Grab yourself a donut.

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Originally Posted by Rev:

* Thanks to that man the PPP lost by a massive 4506 votes. 

 

* This thread is a tribute to the esteemed Prime Minister.

 

* The Prime Minister was pissed on and denigrated by many, included the Rev, but he ended up making fools out of all of us.

 

* The Rev is rooting for the Prime Minister to succeed in his position.

 

* But lemme be blunt! Unless the constitution is changed to at least remove the President's power to recall---then the Prime Minister will be powerless---the Prime Minister knows this.

 

Rev

...more shrill screams about a constitution you never cared about when you were paid by the gangsters. We get the point - you want Indian power only and the man you called a "dirty Indian" is now your only path to acheiving it. You truly are a slimy, flea infested cur

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Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The change Nagamooto wants aint going to happen.  That a deal he should have struck before entering into the alliance.  The AFC were out-foxed.  They provided the cover for the electoral fraud which saw the PNC rise and the fell for quantity over quality.  They got 12 seats, but the constitutional power guarantee in very much intact for the PNC to exploit in the long run.

 

* You may very well be hitting the nail on the head there Mr. baseman.

 

Rev

Indians were so hell bent in outfoxing each other that they fail to see themselves being outfoxed by the PNC.  This is the end of any hope of any other party ruling over Guyana, but the PNC.  The PNC will, in time, debase and take back the seats that was handed to the AFC and if they don't like it, they can go to hell, the PNC don't need anyone to remain in power, they have the GDF.

 

The rise of the new 1% privilege Indo class under "neo-Burnhamism" is here to stay.  However, the PPP hold a much of the fault as they were contemptuous, self-centered and myopic in they view of reality.  The PPP and AFC where locked in their own "civil war" and the military-minded Granger moved in for the kill.  Classic "Art of War".

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

 

FROM WHERE I SIT, I SHALL SUPPORT A CLEAN DAVID GRANGER ANY DAY THAN A CROOKED JAGDEO.

 

I am East Indian and Hindu.

 

This shyte got nothing to do with Indian or Black.

 

It got to do with how we rule the country.

 

Let Jagdeo explain the source of funds for the mansion first.

Flour boy, you don't have to tell me who you are, we know who you are, and you fit the mold very well.  Now, which of the 12 seats you getting?

Whatever seat he gets make sure it's a large one to hold his moldy flour arse.

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Originally Posted by Itaname:
 

...more shrill screams about a constitution you never cared about

 

Itsibitsy:

 

* The Rev wishes to make it crystal clear that like the late President Cheddi Jagan and former Presidents Jagdeo and Ramotar, he, the esteemed Rev, is very comfortable with the Burnham constitution.

 

* In my estimation President David Granger will be a fool to agree to a change of the Burnham constitution where he would be granted less power.

 

* It is Prime Minister Nagamootoo and the AFC who are determinded to stip the President of his power via rewriting of the constitution.

 

* The way things stand right now David Granger is the BIG KAHUNA and the others are his slaves.

 

* DON'T AGREE TO CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT WOULD REDUCE YOUR POWER DAVID.

 

Rev

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QUESTION:

 

* Is it true Prime Minister Nagamootoo will be chairing cabinet in the PNC/AFC administration ?

 

The appointment of a Prime Minister also has special significance in the context of the Cummingsburg Agreement. It is the understanding of that accord that the Prime Minister will be delegated certain responsibilities, including the chairing of Cabinet.

 

The chairing of Cabinet by the Prime Minister is however in direct contravention of the Constitution which insists that it is only in the absence of the President that the Prime Minister can chair Cabinet.

 

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....of-a-prime-minister/

 

Rev

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Welcome to the Original Guyanese Discussion Forums, first established in 1996. Here you can discuss, ask questions or generally debate anything related to politics, movies, music, health or just gyaff away your day/night here. A note of warning, the Political forum is not for the faint of heart.  We do have some rules, so please adhere to them .
 
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Welcome to the Original Guyanese Discussion Forums, first established in 1996. Here you can discuss, ask questions or generally debate anything related to politics, movies, music, health or just gyaff away your day/night here.

Please note while you do have free access to our Forums, the Political Forum will now be a Paid Membership Forum. What does this mean? To write in the Political Forum you must be a paying member. The fee is $25.00 US per year and is non refundable. Payment can be done through PayPal.
Membership is not automatically renewed and you can cancel anytime
We do have some rules, so please adhere to them.
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