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GOOD TING PPP LOST EH?
Dis is wha yuh call broad based representation. PNC of old headed by what the Americans called "Anti East Indian Racist"
Originally Posted by randolph:
Dis is wha yuh call broad based representation. PNC of old headed by what the Americans called "Anti East Indian Racist"
"Anti East Indian Racist" meaning...Against East Indian Racists.
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Yes, its broad based indeed! The "Anti East Indian Racist" is in broad smiles.
And lets remember....its not Jagdeo who said this...
GOOD TING PPP NA SAY THIS, EH?
So paint that with a broad brush, and spin it how you want...its the Americans.
Yes, its broad based indeed! The "Anti East Indian Racist" is in broad smiles.
And lets remember....its not Jagdeo who said this...
GOOD TING PPP NA SAY THIS, EH?
So paint that with a broad brush, and spin it how you want...its the Americans.
C'mon yuh cant find even wan half scald Indo, Amerindo, Chino, Porto or Mixo soupie to pose wid the AEIR then dem should at least have Naga or Rumjhatt.
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
Dis is wha yuh call broad based representation. PNC of old headed by what the Americans called "Anti East Indian Racist"
So how is this different from the PPP? They excluded blacks, and you now claim that APNU now excludes Indians.
Quit bellyaching and accept the blows that you demanded of blacks during the PPP 23 year rule.
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Yes, its broad based indeed! The "Anti East Indian Racist" is in broad smiles.
And lets remember....its not Jagdeo who said this...
GOOD TING PPP NA SAY THIS, EH?
So paint that with a broad brush, and spin it how you want...its the Americans.
You had no problem when the PPP excluded blacks, so what is your angst now? Suddenly want fairness when the boot is on the other foot?
At least APNU/AFC found Indian heads of their overseas missions, while the PPP couldnt find blacks, until Freddie K and Nigel HUghes embarrassed them. The Chief House Negro squealed that blacks are too stupid and unqualified. We know that he only realized that he was black when Jagdeo left the black PPP to fend for themselves when Jenny was on the line.
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Yes, its broad based indeed! The "Anti East Indian Racist" is in broad smiles.
And lets remember....its not Jagdeo who said this...
GOOD TING PPP NA SAY THIS, EH?
So paint that with a broad brush, and spin it how you want...its the Americans.
You had no problem when the PPP excluded blacks, so what is your angst now? Suddenly want fairness when the boot is on the other foot?
At least APNU/AFC found Indian heads of their overseas missions, while the PPP couldnt find blacks, until Freddie K and Nigel HUghes embarrassed them. The Chief House Negro squealed that blacks are too stupid and unqualified. We know that he only realized that he was black when Jagdeo left the black PPP to fend for themselves when Jenny was on the line.
Two wrongs dont make a right. Sounds like what you saying is "abe on top now"...and you have the gaul to attack people here as "Indo KKK"? Have you no shame?
Spin it how you want...its the Americans who saying your leader is an anti East Indian racist...not Jagdeo.
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Aaah, but you only figured that out after May 11th. Had the PPP won and continued to ethnically exclude I am confident that you wouldnt have been concerned, and in fact would have only criticized the Africans who made that point.
Until folks like you show contrition, you simply empower those who now feel that it is their turn to benefit. In their opinion, if the PPP returns, they expect similar exclusion, as occurred before May 11th, and they expect Indians like you to keep quiet about this.
Those Indians who werent vocal about racism BEFORE May 11 look like hypocrites now. Really cannot recall too many Indians accusing the PPP of racism PRIOR to May 11th. Can you?
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Aaah, but you only figured that out after May 11th. Had the PPP won and continued to ethnically exclude I am confident that you wouldnt have been concerned, and in fact would have only criticized the Africans who made that point.
Until folks like you show contrition, you simply empower those who now feel that it is their turn to benefit. In their opinion, if the PPP returns, they expect similar exclusion, as occurred before May 11th, and they expect Indians like you to keep quiet about this.
Those Indians who werent vocal about racism BEFORE May 11 look like hypocrites now. Really cannot recall too many Indians accusing the PPP of racism PRIOR to May 11th. Can you?
I see you ignoring the rest of my comment...
Maybe I am late to this game...the election made me more conscious about Guyana. I am trying to read and learn as much as I can about Guyana's history.
However, I am confident to repeat that 2 wrongs is not = right. If this government campaigned on CHANGE then they should set the standards. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds when on the one hand Jagdeo and the PPP are attacked as racists and then the US is telling us that Granger is an east indian racist?
Granger should break the racial cycle. But soupies like you are not helping the situation. There are anti-Blacks out here, but YOU, based on your comments here is likewise an "Anti East Indian Racist"...like Granger.
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Aaah, but you only figured that out after May 11th. Had the PPP won and continued to ethnically exclude I am confident that you wouldnt have been concerned, and in fact would have only criticized the Africans who made that point.
Until folks like you show contrition, you simply empower those who now feel that it is their turn to benefit. In their opinion, if the PPP returns, they expect similar exclusion, as occurred before May 11th, and they expect Indians like you to keep quiet about this.
Those Indians who werent vocal about racism BEFORE May 11 look like hypocrites now. Really cannot recall too many Indians accusing the PPP of racism PRIOR to May 11th. Can you?
I see you ignoring the rest of my comment...
Maybe I am late to this game...the election made me more conscious about Guyana. I am trying to read and learn as much as I can about Guyana's history.
However, I am confident to repeat that 2 wrongs is not = right. If this government campaigned on CHANGE then they should set the standards. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds when on the one hand Jagdeo and the PPP are attacked as racists and then the US is telling us that Granger is an east indian racist?
Granger should break the racial cycle. But soupies like you are not helping the situation. There are anti-Blacks out here, but YOU, based on your comments here is likewise an "Anti East Indian Racist"...like Granger.
I have looked at your other comments...unless I missed it, I cannot find a single positive comment made by you about Indians. That makes you and an East Indian racist and an Indian basher....but your blinkers makes you immune from seeing the good in any Indians here.
One more time.
Originally Posted by cain:
"Anti East Indian Racist" mean...Against East Indian Racists.
I understand this to mean the man is against East Indians who are racists.
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Aaah, but you only figured that out after May 11th. Had the PPP won and continued to ethnically exclude I am confident that you wouldnt have been concerned, and in fact would have only criticized the Africans who made that point.
Until folks like you show contrition, you simply empower those who now feel that it is their turn to benefit. In their opinion, if the PPP returns, they expect similar exclusion, as occurred before May 11th, and they expect Indians like you to keep quiet about this.
Those Indians who werent vocal about racism BEFORE May 11 look like hypocrites now. Really cannot recall too many Indians accusing the PPP of racism PRIOR to May 11th. Can you?
I see you ignoring the rest of my comment...
Maybe I am late to this game...the election made me more conscious about Guyana. I am trying to read and learn as much as I can about Guyana's history.
However, I am confident to repeat that 2 wrongs is not = right. If this government campaigned on CHANGE then they should set the standards. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds when on the one hand Jagdeo and the PPP are attacked as racists and then the US is telling us that Granger is an east indian racist?
Granger should break the racial cycle. But soupies like you are not helping the situation. There are anti-Blacks out here, but YOU, based on your comments here is likewise an "Anti East Indian Racist"...like Granger.
I have looked at your other comments...unless I missed it, I cannot find a single positive comment made by you about Indians. That makes you and an East Indian racist and an Indian basher....but your blinkers makes you immune from seeing the good in any Indians here.
PROVE ME WRONG...show me where you have said something positive about Indians...you do and I will apologize...I am waiting
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Aaah, but you only figured that out after May 11th. Had the PPP won and continued to ethnically exclude I am confident that you wouldnt have been concerned, and in fact would have only criticized the Africans who made that point.
Until folks like you show contrition, you simply empower those who now feel that it is their turn to benefit. In their opinion, if the PPP returns, they expect similar exclusion, as occurred before May 11th, and they expect Indians like you to keep quiet about this.
Those Indians who werent vocal about racism BEFORE May 11 look like hypocrites now. Really cannot recall too many Indians accusing the PPP of racism PRIOR to May 11th. Can you?
I see you ignoring the rest of my comment...
Maybe I am late to this game...the election made me more conscious about Guyana. I am trying to read and learn as much as I can about Guyana's history.
However, I am confident to repeat that 2 wrongs is not = right. If this government campaigned on CHANGE then they should set the standards. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds when on the one hand Jagdeo and the PPP are attacked as racists and then the US is telling us that Granger is an east indian racist?
Granger should break the racial cycle. But soupies like you are not helping the situation. There are anti-Blacks out here, but YOU, based on your comments here is likewise an "Anti East Indian Racist"...like Granger.
I have looked at your other comments...unless I missed it, I cannot find a single positive comment made by you about Indians. That makes you and an East Indian racist and an Indian basher....but your blinkers makes you immune from seeing the good in any Indians here.
PROVE ME WRONG...show me where you have said something positive about Indians...you do and I will apologize...I am waiting
And by the way...that comment about Granger is going to live beside him for the rest of his Presidency and after that. It will come up everytime you people attack Jagdeo and the PPP as being racists. How do you plan to erase this???
If we accept that the US said the May 11 elections was free and fair, then we have no reason to disbelief it when the same US is telling us that Granger is an "anti East Indian racist".
Vish Mohabir, Dont waste your time with someone who makes Ian Smith looks like Mother Theresa. He gas always been a RACIST and will always be. We confirmed that on GNI many years ago. He was a foot soldiers in the 60's and 70's coordinating Mo Fiah Slo Fiah!!!
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
Dis is wha yuh call broad based representation. PNC of old headed by what the Americans called "Anti East Indian Racist"
That's national unity without Moses and Ramjattan. Where is Amna Ali and she big fat cohesion?
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by randolph:
Dis is wha yuh call broad based representation. PNC of old headed by what the Americans called "Anti East Indian Racist"
That's national unity without Moses and Ramjattan. Where is Amna Ali and she big fat cohesion?
Dat is a reincarnation of a Hog!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by cain:
One more time.
Originally Posted by cain:
"Anti East Indian Racist" mean...Against East Indian Racists.
I understand this to mean the man is against East Indians who are racists.
You need some schooling brother....English may not be your first language...or you smokin something!
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by cain:
One more time.
Originally Posted by cain:
"Anti East Indian Racist" mean...Against East Indian Racists.
I understand this to mean the man is against East Indians who are racists.
You need some schooling brother....English may not be your first language...or you smokin something!
Now Vish, One can only understand what their brain allow.
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by cain:
One more time.
Originally Posted by cain:
"Anti East Indian Racist" mean...Against East Indian Racists.
I understand this to mean the man is against East Indians who are racists.
You need some schooling brother....English may not be your first language...or you smokin something!
What does the word "anti" mean?
Now place that word in front of the words "East Indian Racist" and tell us what you got.
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
who are these people with Granger?
mr randolph, please provide context
thanks
95% of the civil service under the PPP were Africans 85% of all the supervisors and managers were Africans. Where is the racism?
Former Member
Those are some overweight incompetent pigs around a lead jackass.
Read the Chronicle. Seems to be all supporters of the AEIR. GTU and PSU pictures .Over 50% of teachers are from other ethnic groups and they can't even have a semblance of representation. Reminds me of the Hoyte presidency when 16 nursery school teachers were selected to go on an overseas trip and all of them were from one ethnic group. History repeating itself = all or nothing.
â... the vintage of history is forever repeating ~ same old vines, same old wines!â
The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itselfâ
Originally Posted by cain:
One more time.
Originally Posted by cain:
"Anti East Indian Racist" mean...Against East Indian Racists.
I understand this to mean the man is against East Indians who are racists.
Lets not play with words... I will direct you to the statement from the PNC in their response to this revelation
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
Read the Chronicle. Seems to be all supporters of the AEIR. GTU and PSU pictures .Over 50% of teachers are from other ethnic groups and they can't even have a semblance of representation. Reminds me of the Hoyte presidency when 16 nursery school teachers were selected to go on an overseas trip and all of them were from one ethnic group. History repeating itself = all or nothing . . .
my request is simple; but you are such a practiced lil skont on the make, u pull up yuh panty quick quick and run away like the true antiman we have come to scorn on this BB
i didn't ask you for a bloody editorial . . . and please don't be an ass by bleating that i go cure your failing? by "read[ing] the Chronicle"
thanks
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by cain:
One more time.
Originally Posted by cain:
"Anti East Indian Racist" mean...Against East Indian Racists.
I understand this to mean the man is against East Indians who are racists.
Lets not play with words... I will direct you to the statement from the PNC in their response to this revelation
and read the context in which it was used by the us ambassador
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
so Granger is meeting with GTU and PSU reps . . .
i assume these are the same union people holding office 6 months ago
loathing of Black people by some here runs deep
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by randolph:
Read the Chronicle. Seems to be all supporters of the AEIR. GTU and PSU pictures .Over 50% of teachers are from other ethnic groups and they can't even have a semblance of representation. Reminds me of the Hoyte presidency when 16 nursery school teachers were selected to go on an overseas trip and all of them were from one ethnic group. History repeating itself = all or nothing . . .
my request is simple; but you are such a practiced lil skont on the make, u pull up yuh panty quick quick and run away like the true antiman we have come to scorn on this BB
i didn't ask you for a bloody editorial . . . and please don't be an ass by bleating that i go cure your failing? by "read[ing] the Chronicle"
thanks
ha ha ha ha typical of your kit and kin buse and cuss out, shows the level of your kaka head, tek off your black bully KKK racist blinkers an see the light. By the way me a yuh anti man fuh all yuh anti dem - Doris, Bernice, Gladys. Aha aha.
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by randolph:
Read the Chronicle. Seems to be all supporters of the AEIR. GTU and PSU pictures .Over 50% of teachers are from other ethnic groups and they can't even have a semblance of representation. Reminds me of the Hoyte presidency when 16 nursery school teachers were selected to go on an overseas trip and all of them were from one ethnic group. History repeating itself = all or nothing . . .
my request is simple; but you are such a practiced lil skont on the make, u pull up yuh panty quick quick and run away like the true antiman we have come to scorn on this BB
i didn't ask you for a bloody editorial . . . and please don't be an ass by bleating that i go cure your failing? by "read[ing] the Chronicle"
thanks
ha ha ha ha typical of your kit and kin buse and cuss out, shows the level of your kaka head, tek off your black bully KKK racist blinkers an see the light. By the way me a yuh anti man fuh all yuh anti dem - Doris, Bernice, Gladys. Aha aha.
ONLY intellectually shallow, insecure, bleating sheep allow themselves to be "bullied" on a message board
uh huh
Former Member
This evening at Rahaman's Park, Houston. President Granger accepted an invitation from Ray Rahaman to light up a big Xmas tree. Indos and Afros turned up. Good sign.
[PHOTOS: MINISTRY OF THE PRESIDENCY]
Former Member
I am wondering how many houses will break into and how many families will get murder this Christmas.
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
I see you ignoring the rest of my comment...
Maybe I am late to this game...the election made me more conscious about Guyana. I am trying to read and learn as much as I can about Guyana's history.
However, I am confident to repeat that 2 wrongs is not = right. If this government campaigned on CHANGE then they should set the standards. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds when on the one hand Jagdeo and the PPP are attacked as racists and then the US is telling us that Granger is an east indian racist?
Granger should break the racial cycle. But soupies like you are not helping the situation. There are anti-Blacks out here, but YOU, based on your comments here is likewise an "Anti East Indian Racist"...like Granger.
I am fully aware of what you said.
The whole thrust on GNI is about "bad black man, good Indian". Stormborn/Danyael gave you several opportunities to discuss Indian racism. You said NOTHING, until you began to attack Itaname and I and redux as racists.
YOUR behavior, when you were given an opportunity to discuss Indian racism indicates why blacks shouldn't trust Indians.
Having been shoved aside for 23 years, what assurance do blacks have to make up lost ground, before the PPP returns to power, and shoves them aside again?
At no point has there been any indication that Indians in Guyana are willing to admit to their own role in Guyana's ethnic distrust.
So now the boot isn't on the Indian foot, when it was used to kick blacks for 23 years, suddenly cries from people like you to play fair.
Well the only way that blacks will have the assurance that they can play fair, without this being to their detriment, is if they see Indians being willing to play fair. WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS!
Are Indians looking at the hiring practices of the overwhelmingly Indo dominated private sector to see that they are being fair to Africans? NO!
You only want "fair" when it suits you.
So carry your so and so with your hypocritical cries that "Granger must change". Virtually NO Indians made that demand of the PPP, and when blacks did so they felt the full weight of Indian poer DEATH THREATS and all.
This last election we saw a vulgar display that the overwhelming majority of Indians are Indian FIRST, when they followed Jagdeo in his most racist screams and demonization of blacks, and when he distorted Moses' comments with the infamous screams that he said that he isn't an Indian.
THE PPP MOUNTED OVERTLY RACIST ELECTION CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT INDIANS WANT!!!! THEY SEVERELY DAMAGED INTER ETHNIC RELATIONS IN GUYANA!
Former Member
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
95% of the civil service under the PPP were Africans 85% of all the supervisors and managers were Africans. Where is the racism?
And 80% of those with LEADERSHIP functions were Indians. They set policy, made decisions, and were quick to replace any black person who didn't do as they were told, with an Indian.
So now the PPP is finished, and we now look to see who headed state controlled agencies. In most cases # 1, 2, and 3 INDIAN!
Guyana under the PPP was a slave plantation, except that the Indian replaced the white man at the top.
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I am wondering how many houses will break into and how many families will get murder this Christmas.
How much you plan on knockin over?
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
95% of the civil service under the PPP were Africans 85% of all the supervisors and managers were Africans. Where is the racism?
And 80% of those with LEADERSHIP functions were Indians. They set policy, made decisions, and were quick to replace any black person who didn't do as they were told, with an Indian.
So now the PPP is finished, and we now look to see who headed state controlled agencies. In most cases # 1, 2, and 3 INDIAN!
Guyana under the PPP was a slave plantation, except that the Indian replaced the white man at the top.
Banna,
You are a sick mind. YOUR HATRED RUNS DEEP....too deep for you to be a rational person.
You never answer my question about your own attitude towards Indian.
You are an Idiot to believe that Indos control the kind of power you are talking about...
The lowly Indian manager may be # 1,2 and 3....but the power he has can never be compared to the power Blacks have enjoyed since Independence...the power they control in the military, police and civil service...even during the 23 years...so stop your barefaced nonsense...the more you spew, the more you reveal yourself to be an anti East Indian racist and an Indian basher...
You blame the entire Indian population for being racist because they voted for Jagdeo?...they, like blacks, voted for a party, as they have done over the years.
I dont know you from a hole in the wall...but, the BS you have been spewing here is the basis for the the kind of response you get from Indos...you belong,to the older generation of Guyanese who cant seem to shed their racist scars...
i am glad the younger generation of Guyanese are wiser and are moving away from this kind of race hate...
Former Member
GAWU is the largest, most powerful, most PRIVILEGED trade union in Guyana . . . has Randolph, Vishmahabir or any of the blackman loathing, dribbling skonts on this thread EVER expressed 'reservations' or nervousness over the racial composition of its leadership . . . eh?
you people are sick!
Originally Posted by redux:
GAWU is the largest, most powerful, most PRIVILEGED trade union in Guyana . . . has Randolph, Vishmahabir or any of the blackman loathing, dribbling skonts on this thread EVER expressed 'reservations' or nervousness over the racial composition of its leadership . . . eh?
you people are sick!
Knucklehead,
Or should I call you dirty mouth?
"you people are sick!"
You must be lookin in the mirror and taking to yuself.
Reread your post and mine and see if you make an ounce of sense.
The institutions I mentioned, are taxpayers funded, its where power really lies...who controls them?
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by redux:
GAWU is the largest, most powerful, most PRIVILEGED trade union in Guyana . . . has Randolph, Vishmahabir or any of the blackman loathing, dribbling skonts on this thread EVER expressed 'reservations' or nervousness over the racial composition of its leadership . . . eh?
you people are sick!
Knucklehead,
Or should I call you dirty mouth?
"you people are sick!"
You must be lookin in the mirror and taking to yuself.
Reread your post and mine and see if you make an ounce of sense.
The institutions I mentioned, are taxpayers funded, its where power really lies...who controls them?
uh huh
do u recall what the jumping off point of this thread was?
do you want me to remind u how you came in!
sick mofo
Keep drinking banna...remember alcohol destroys the brain cells
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Keep drinking banna...remember alcohol destroys the brain cells
refute nah
Former Member
Originally Posted by redux:
GAWU is the largest, most powerful, most PRIVILEGED trade union in Guyana . . . has Randolph, Vishmahabir or any of the blackman loathing, dribbling skonts on this thread EVER expressed 'reservations' or nervousness over the racial composition of its leadership . . . eh?
you people are sick!
Randolph, Vishmahabir....
Aya na Understand
Wha Redux asking Aya.....
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
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You are an Idiot to believe that Indos control the kind of power you are talking about...
The lowly Indian manager may be # 1,2 and 3.....
.Tell you what. You deny that Indian racism towards blacks existed, so have made my point that you are a hypocrite to whine "two wrongs don't make a right"
You do not admit to the PPP wrong.
Got you. LIAR!
When Indians had the boot and kicked black man down, you said NOTHING, and now deny that this happened. You only squeal about "fairness" now that blacks finally have the boot.
May 11th showed that Guyanese voting is as racially polarized as ever, and in fact some of the loudest voices telling Granger to ensure that blacks get what they were denied under the PPP are younger blacks, who came of age under the PPP, so didn't get a chance to establish themselves.
It is also clear that young Indians voted race, as did their elders, and also share the same hypocrisy about race in Guyana. Yes, "black man bad, Indian good, so black man have to apologize"
VM you can wait and wait and wait but you aren't getting any apology until you concede what the PPP did to blacks during the 23 years.
Also stop being an idiot. If the GDF and the GPF were so controlled by blacks, why would they have not ridded Guyana of the PPP, who they saw obviously detest when we see which party they support?
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
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The institutions I mentioned, are taxpayers funded, its where power really lies...who controls them?
Who controlled the institutions prior to May 11th. INDIANS.
Now they no longer do you invent a lie that blacks were all powerful under the PPP, relieving you of any obligation to address the rampant racism that we saw against blacks in BOTH the public and private sectors.
Then you pretend as if equality is what you want. No. When Indians had the power they shared NONE of it. They victimized blacks who were vocal about this.
Now they no longer dominate the gov't you want "fairness".
Clearly your rant about the powerless Indian under PPP rule signals that you have NO INTEREST in addressing the rampant ethnic exclusion of blacks from top positions, which occurred during that era.
You just revealed what you would have said, had you been a poster on GNI before May 11th. So do NOT squeal about just beginning to post, so not having any opportunity to protest PPP racism.
Former Member
FACT. During the African dictatorship there was RAMPANT discussion by African intellectuals about the racism, which was directed against Indians. In fact they JOINED with some Indians to CONFRONT an African dictatorship.
FACT. During the Indian dictatorship there was almost no condemnation by Indian intellectuals about racism directed against Africans. The few Indians who were vocal were condemned as SELF Hating.
We see a completely different reaction, and yet you now wonder why blacks don't trust Indians, and want to ensure that their interests are protected against Indian racism!
So run off with you nonsense that blacks in Guyana have always been powerful and are 100% to blame for our ethnic quagmire, with Indians having no role in this.
GAWU membership is about 95% Indo and you are correct the leadership is mostly Indo. But can you explain the GTU with over 50% of teachers from other ethnic groups and there is presently no diversity in their leadership. Perhaps you may want to visit the GTU hall on Woolford Ave. and you can't help but notice the pictures of all past presidents hanging on the wall.
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
GAWU membership is about 95% Indo and you are correct the leadership is mostly Indo. But can you explain the GTU with over 50% of teachers from other ethnic groups and there is presently no diversity in their leadership. Perhaps you may want to visit the GTU hall on Woolford Ave. and you can't help but notice the pictures of all past presidents hanging on the wall.
We must never forget that Granger is from the Burnhamite racist dictatorship era. I am not one bit surprised what is being displayed here. There is a clear pattern, recently in NY and now.
AFC sold out Indos, lot stock and barrels for a fat paycheque and a lil useless title.
History is slowly repeating itself. Rigging of elections and stealing of ballot boxes are next.
Former Member
Hoyte and Burnham stole All of the votes and always declared a landslide at rigged elections. This is a very dangerous practice of All Or Nothing for the Kith and Kin.
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"Mr. Burnham kept a multi-party system, but rigged elections.â Yet Granger claims he has no evidence of any rigging where hundreds of thousands of East Indians were disenfranchised even though overwhelming evidence exists in the public domain,
" For example, in October 2003, in Santiago, Chile, Mr. Granger presented a paper titled, âCivil Violence, Domestic Terrorism and Internal Security In Guyana, 1953-2003,â at a conference organised by the Centre for Hemispheric Defence Studies. In his presentation, Granger deliberately omitted the PNC orchestrated, May 25-26, 1964, Wismar Massacre of East Indians, but was effusive about the Sun Chapman tragedy, lamenting, ââĶthe most alarming slaughterâĶof 40 Africans on 6th JulyâĶin the Demerara River on a motor launch to Mackenzie.â
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Originally Posted by randolph:
GAWU membership is about 95% Indo and you are correct the leadership is mostly Indo. But can you explain the GTU with over 50% of teachers from other ethnic groups and there is presently no diversity in their leadership. Perhaps you may want to visit the GTU hall on Woolford Ave. and you can't help but notice the pictures of all past presidents hanging on the wall.
indeed, i have no issue with the ethnic composition of GAWU's leadership . . . that's the point fool
perhaps you can enlighten us as to why the 'diverse' GTU and PSU memberships vote in an overwhelmingly Afro leadership!
the check off for union dues in the Public Service was terminated by Jagdeo's regime as "contract worker" policy was leveraged brutally to dilute union power . . . please provide an ethnic breakdown of paid-up PSU members who elected the present "too Afro" leadership
now, help abee understand how President Granger and Minister Harmon meeting with elected leaders of the PSU and the GTU become occasion for your antiman wailing and hand wringing over blackman tekkin "all"
thanks
Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by randolph:
Dis is wha yuh call broad based representation. PNC of old headed by what the Americans called "Anti East Indian Racist"
So how is this different from the PPP? They excluded blacks, and you now claim that APNU now excludes Indians.
Quit bellyaching and accept the blows that you demanded of blacks during the PPP 23 year rule.
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
learn to spell . . . it's never too late for night skool
Former Member
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
learn to spell . . . it's never too late for night skool
Ok, so I missed the 'A' in glaucoma. Like you just got back from bra shopping with one of your female relatives. What did you get a size "all"?
At least I know how to spell negroes.
Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
learn to spell . . . it's never too late for night skool
Ok, so I missed the 'A' in glaucoma. Like you just got back from bra shopping with one of your female relatives. What did you get a size "all"?
At least I know how to spell negroes.
what's your point again?
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
GAWU membership is about 95% Indo and you are correct the leadership is mostly Indo. But can you explain the GTU with over 50% of teachers from other ethnic groups and there is presently no diversity in their leadership. Perhaps you may want to visit the GTU hall on Woolford Ave. and you can't help but notice the pictures of all past presidents hanging on the wall.
indeed, i have no issue with the ethnic composition of GAWU's leadership . . . that's the point fool
perhaps you can enlighten us as to why the 'diverse' GTU and PSU memberships vote in an overwhelmingly Afro leadership!
the check off for union dues in the Public Service was terminated by Jagdeo's regime as "contract worker" policy was leveraged brutally to dilute union power . . . please provide an ethnic breakdown of paid-up PSU members who elected the present "too Afro" leadership
now, help abee understand how President Granger and Minister Harmon meeting with elected leaders of the PSU and the GTU become occasion for your antiman wailing and hand wringing over blackman tekkin "all"
thanks
Former Member
Originally Posted by randolph:
You like the rest of the prating racists here live and die by this crap. You said nothing when the faces in the crowd at elections time match the faces of the politicians speaking to them. Then you sought to conserve the them vs us instead of asking why your politicians only had a friends and family circle. Now it is on the other foot you cry foul. It is what is. It is not on account of any evil but the evil that you only see because the people sitting is not your kin.
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Yes, its broad based indeed! The "Anti East Indian Racist" is in broad smiles.
And lets remember....its not Jagdeo who said this...
GOOD TING PPP NA SAY THIS, EH?
So paint that with a broad brush, and spin it how you want...its the Americans.
You were looking for a phrase to validate your mental reflection. You lived with the PPP, complaining little and demanding no diversity in their plan but now it galls you.
Yes it is wrong and statistical expression of our political prejudices but you have no moral footing to say these are obliged to match your concept of diversity when you were silent previously.
It is our problem of being political sheep. Note, Redux and Caribj, the target of your projection of your hate for APNU on this site, is not even as you conceive them to be. Unlike you they complement the good and complain on the wrongs before them. They question now and not as you did back when the PPP was in charge. Whether jagdeo says it or not is irrelevant. It is what you say.
Former Member
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
95% of the civil service under the PPP were Africans 85% of all the supervisors and managers were Africans. Where is the racism?
And 80% of those with LEADERSHIP functions were Indians. They set policy, made decisions, and were quick to replace any black person who didn't do as they were told, with an Indian.
So now the PPP is finished, and we now look to see who headed state controlled agencies. In most cases # 1, 2, and 3 INDIAN!
Guyana under the PPP was a slave plantation, except that the Indian replaced the white man at the top.
Banna,
You are a sick mind. YOUR HATRED RUNS DEEP....too deep for you to be a rational person.
You never answer my question about your own attitude towards Indian.
You are an Idiot to believe that Indos control the kind of power you are talking about...
The lowly Indian manager may be # 1,2 and 3....but the power he has can never be compared to the power Blacks have enjoyed since Independence...the power they control in the military, police and civil service...even during the 23 years...so stop your barefaced nonsense...the more you spew, the more you reveal yourself to be an anti East Indian racist and an Indian basher...
You blame the entire Indian population for being racist because they voted for Jagdeo?...they, like blacks, voted for a party, as they have done over the years.
I dont know you from a hole in the wall...but, the BS you have been spewing here is the basis for the the kind of response you get from Indos...you belong,to the older generation of Guyanese who cant seem to shed their racist scars...
i am glad the younger generation of Guyanese are wiser and are moving away from this kind of race hate...
I am the one that said Indians are the one with the strict cultural prohibitions about race. I said no other ethnic group has similar cultural fences.
In a competition for scarce resources ( and resources are eternally scarce) these these prohibitions ( reluctance to mixed group formation)facilitates rather than mediates marginalization. It causes resentment to those shut out. It produces machinations to overcome that by any means ( when rational processes are not being entertained by the political community) It results in rigging as we seen in the Burnham regime or special clauses to exclude Indian hegemony as in Fiji.
Ignore these at your own disadvantage. If Indians do not accept that they can be eternally at a disadvantage in the present system they will join in the appeal for constitutional change. They should not let their cultural disposition for cultural insularism act against them in the futile hope that the PPP gets back into power under the same system.
That is paddling up stream. The numbers are just not there to sustain such a revival of the PPP as and indian only party. The shoe is on the other foot now and it bites hard. Those fearing indians are now huddling to ensure their exclusion. It is our eternal problem...racism and arbitration of our political power structure by race. I hope you can see it and get out of the crab box.
Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
learn to spell . . . it's never too late for night skool
Ok, so I missed the 'A' in glaucoma. Like you just got back from bra shopping with one of your female relatives. What did you get a size "all"?
At least I know how to spell negroes.
Even when you get kicked in the nuts for being pedantic with formal writing you deflect with your usual instrument of choice, racism. Man wake the f.uck up. You are days from the tomb and still carrying the burdens of naked prejudices.
Former Member
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
learn to spell . . . it's never too late for night skool
Ok, so I missed the 'A' in glaucoma. Like you just got back from bra shopping with one of your female relatives. What did you get a size "all"?
At least I know how to spell negroes.
Even when you get kicked in the nuts for being pedantic with formal writing you deflect with your usual instrument of choice, racism. Man wake the f.uck up. You are days from the tomb and still carrying the burdens of naked prejudices.
Go back to grating and squeezing cassava and shut your cunny up. I am surprised that you saved us the pain of going through your verbose hogwash that says "nuttin".
Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Do you have glucoma in both eyes? PNC Negroes are never at fault.
learn to spell . . . it's never too late for night skool
Ok, so I missed the 'A' in glaucoma. Like you just got back from bra shopping with one of your female relatives. What did you get a size "all"?
At least I know how to spell negroes.
Even when you get kicked in the nuts for being pedantic with formal writing you deflect with your usual instrument of choice, racism. Man wake the f.uck up. You are days from the tomb and still carrying the burdens of naked prejudices.
Go back to grating and squeezing cassava and shut your cunny up. I am surprised that you saved us the pain of going through your verbose hogwash that says "nuttin".
Sorry...your wish does not make my reality. I was born to the pickney of the bakraman, the one you logie dwellers ran left and right to crying sahib sahib....I guess you like being insulted. "Cunny" is Scott-irish colloquialism...even here you cannot strive to be original and authentic.
Former Member
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
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I am the one that said Indians are the one with the strict cultural prohibitions about race. I said no other ethnic group has similar cultural fences.
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You have raised this point as have I. It would be better for the assorted Indians on GNI, at least the ones who represent themselves as moderate and intelligent (VVP, VishM, and Kari) to debate this point. TK has spoken out on this and has been called a "dirty Indian" and self hating.
But they purposely avoid discussion of this, except to scream that any mention of this is anti Indian. They refuse to see that perceptions of ethnic exclusivity is at the core of the African ethnic insecurity dilemma. The African looks at the Indian and sees;
1. A group which excludes them, because they aren't Indian, and so are outsiders.
2. A group which gives priority to a sense of nationality as Indians, living in a geographic space celled Guyana, and therefore doesn't see a common fate, or reasons to cooperate with the other people who live in that land. So again they exclude.
3. They see a people who peddle the myth of "bad black man, good Indian", and so refuse to admit that Indians are as guilty of fomenting our ethnic distrust and the resulting dysfunctional political system, as are Africans.
4. They see Indians therefore playing a game of ethnic exclusion against non Indians, while simultaneously pretending that it does not exist.
Result is that there is a ground swell among segments of the black population for the APNU to give preference to Africans to allow them to make up ground lost during the PPP era.
So VishM can seriously look at the PPP (which described itself as a "coolie party"), which did its best to squeeze out blacks from decision making roles, rendering blacks as dependent on an Indian dominated system, and then wail that Indians were powerless in the 23 years of PPP rule.
He refuses to listen to the vast majority of blacks in Guyana who so they were powerless, excluded, felt that they were victims of a slow holocaust, and feel glad that they can once again be part of how Guyana functions.
Given all of this, on what moral ground does VishM demand fairness, when he screams that not only was the PPP not fundamentally focused on the exclusion of Africans from top leadership slots. But that Africans were dominating Guyana then.
The notion that those who run CJIA (top 3 were Indians) are afraid of the immigration officers is a huge JOKE! That those who ran G/twn Hospital, again top positions were Indians, as was the Minister of Health, were scared of the nurses is a JOKE!
Vish Mahabir, when you are ready to discuss the role of the Indian in creating Guyana's ethnic morass then you have the moral authority to demand that Granger be fair.
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