@Sachin ,unfortunately i don't subscribe to your thinking ,painting one side good and the other side as evil. Also who have the right to rule ,there will be no progress in divided country.

@Former Member, PPP and APNU had polling agents at all 879 Region 4 polling stations and were the only two parties that had the resources to have such representation.

Yet, the smaller parties are congregating behind Jagdeo to claim that PPP/C's SOPs matched what their polling agents can confirm, when it is impossible for them to have adequate representation at each 879 polling stations. 

They may have issued a letter indicating that they have verifiable sources of PPP/C's count, but this a boldface lie. At the end of the day, GECOM is the first and last officiating body of ANY and ALL counts. 

The burden of proof lies with the PPP/C to show GECOM was somehow compromised as the PPP/C swears up and down that their SOPs are nothing but truth. I ask, on what grounds? Who has verified PPP/C's SOPs? Or are we all going with what the mastermind Jagdeo claims? How foolish that would be!

Guyana will remain divided no matter which party comes out victorious at the end. GECOM was never the problem, it was the political parties ability to hinder the election process that remains the problem. 

A new process, preferably electronic, should be considered for future elections. Less manual, more automation. Election results would have already been declared that same night if there was an automated process. 

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Heed what Rochelle is saying.  I trust the current PPP leaders as far as I can throw them.  You too should be wary of them.

Trent Piaralall

I have done some fact checking with some SOPs. The SOPs are from pictures that were taken on election day and was posted at the community's polling station. I then compared it with what the PPP scanned and uploaded. So far all checks out! Even the one from sophia which was claimed to be different than what the PPP have online.

Please do your own checking and please share.

Thanks Dave. Rochelle and Totaram can’t handle the truth. Rochelle is trying to use logic (but in his case, lack of logic) as fact.

Each of us have a mandate to expose the riggers and thief. I will continue doing so, regalesss of the financial burden. 

We will continue to fight to the end for democracy. I wonder how some of you can live with yourself knowing the truth was expose. The ABC countries and international observers witness this bared face hijacking. 

@Former Member: They are trying their best to defend their warped beliefs, and they have a right to do so. They know the PNC is being dishonest and crooked, but they have to defend their statements and put smiling faces on them. Time will catch up on them.

Roach and tota should shaddup and let APNU Release their SOP’s.  Dave you are right on the money.

I have no issues with their choice. It is their hypocrisy that is more telling.

Use the SOPs in region 4 to verify the totals. What do they have to lose besides being proved that they are frauds, riggers, culprits, and power-hungry?
The Guyanese population needs some relief from the stress and the threat of violence. Bring back normalcy to the people.

Rochelle

@Former Member, PPP and APNU had polling agents at all 879 Region 4 polling stations and were the only two parties that had the resources to have such representation.

Yet, the smaller parties are congregating behind Jagdeo to claim that PPP/C's SOPs matched what their polling agents can confirm, when it is impossible for them to have adequate representation at each 879 polling stations. 

They may have issued a letter indicating that they have verifiable sources of PPP/C's count, but this a boldface lie. At the end of the day, GECOM is the first and last officiating body of ANY and ALL counts. 

The burden of proof lies with the PPP/C to show GECOM was somehow compromised as the PPP/C swears up and down that their SOPs are nothing but truth. I ask, on what grounds? Who has verified PPP/C's SOPs? Or are we all going with what the mastermind Jagdeo claims? How foolish that would be!

The SPOs are signed and photocopied. The small parties are  headed by sensible people who can discern chicanery. What  happened at GECOM was fraud, plain and simple.

The PPP asked for proper counting from statement of polls. They were asking for the normal process of proof making. If there was error checking t hen the comparison should be random selection of ballot boxes to test for accuracy. 

@Rochelle, You are not a lawyer as you previously professed, maybe a clerk. By posting lies will only jeopardize your bar licence and believe you me these postings can go a far way.

 Fact, many of the opposition parties had observers at polling stations in region 4, more so than other stations. Foreign observers were rotating at different polling stations. At the end of polling, they all had copies of SOPs they all were present to compare figures. The sealed envelopes were sent to RO office to be verified and that's where Mingo started the process and then realized that numbers were looking good in the opposition favor , he then played sick to stop the process.

Well, let's give him the benefit of the doubt, he was sick. His clerk should have continued the current process of counting and cross checking, but NO she brought out a spread sheet with FAKE numbers.   This is the crucial juncture , anything happed there after is POLITICAL DRAMA.. ALL we are asking ,The PPP, and all opposition political parties , including local and foreign observers is to continue the legal verification process.

 Only, if APNU is an honest body , then do the right thing.

 Cathy/Rumjaat  Russian spy and equipment involved in our election is Bull Crap, Total distraction.

 The court process will be another NCV fiasco. Delay, Delay!!

@KP.. kudos for exposing this Rochelle. 

@kp how presumptuous of you to question my profession! Your threats are idle at best.

Observers may have very well rotated across various polling stations but each other small party is professing from the mountain tops that PPP/Cs SOPs were "independently" verified and should be treated as factual. Again, on what basis? Are you suggesting the observers were the litmus test for the PPP/C Region 4 counts? Complete bullocks!!

As established by LAW, GECOM is the appointed body for ALL counts. NOT the political parties, NOT random people posting on Facebook, and certainly NOT Jagdeo. All this pontification, and you know nothing. 

I will wait for the court to hear the matter, and then go from there. For now, I will not trust Jagdeo and his attempt to circumvent the process. Believe what you may, but do not step to me with idle threats about my profession and licensure. Even more presumptuous of you to think I am a Guyanese-based licensed attorney. Please, continue in your presumption. It tickles me.

Racism will slowly kill people like rochelle. Can she tell us why all the runningin around, hiding , imaginary Bomb Threats and so on. These friggin people probably think they are speaking to their young children!!!!!!!

@Rochelle: As established by LAW, GECOM is the appointed body for ALL counts. NOT the political parties

Dude, You seriously believe the highlighted? It might have been when it was originally created. Be serious and objective, if that is possible with you. The objective of the four current GECOM PNC members is to keep the PNC in office. Have you seen this "pogo stick" circus before anywhere besides Guyana?

Note that the Coalition is made up of several parties so it is not everybody vs PNC.  

@Former Member, this "dude" is a "dudette", and perhaps it would be more of a valid statement if it came from your beloved instead:

ok...let's not make this about race...nothing wrong to have opposing viewpoints

Making it about race does your support a disservice

@Rochelle Lest you forget the events that transpired in Mon Repos where a PPP/C supporter, Anthony Sarjoo, pulled a gun?

Like this orderly PNC dude at Congress Place?

I have seen blacks argue in favor of PPP and Indians argue in favor of APNU...

@Former Member, as a woman of color, many of the comments directed to me are extremely offensive but openly allowed. I never once attacked any person on here, yet my profession and the veracity of my statements are questioned solely due to bringing a different viewpoint and opinion to the table. 

I saw how @Totaram was attacked to prompt the closing of the previous thread, where s/he was subjected to lewd sexual harassment. Fair is fair, and I should be able to express my viewpoints without being subjected to attacks on my character, profession or ethnicity.

Both parties have all six races in them. Both the PPP and the PNC are defined by their base support. We cannot blame the people for this; blame the founders of the parties and today's politicians who incite their followers.

Since all other 9 regions were conducted by count of SOPs and region 4 also began by the same method, why did the CO abandon that method and introduced a spreadsheet which has no basis to the voters casted into the count?

I agree Rochelle....it's difficult to read every thread, but feel free to hit the complaint button if you feel you are being personally attacked.

Guys, let's not get personal with each other, you can make rational arguments without the attacks

STOP WITH YOUR LIES. THE INDIAN HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE HIS GUN TO PROTECT HIMSELF - DID HE ASSAULT ANY BLACKMAN.

THE POLICEWOMAN FELL DOWN AND WAS TRAMPLED UPON THE CROWD... WHAT SHE HAS TWP LEFT FOOT.... LIES LIES ABOUT BEATEN. ... I POSTED THE VIDEO HERE 

THE BUS IS UNFORTUNATE, I AM SURE THE TARGET WAS THE BUS BECAUSE OF  GRANGER NAME AND THE STONE WAS THROWN NOT REALIZING KIDS WERE INSIDE - THE KIDS WERE OF ALL RACES.

THE POLICE FIRED RUBBER BULLETS AND TEAR GAS - HENCE THE AGGRAVATION FROM PROTESTERS WHEN THE POLICE WAS INJURED.

THE NURSE VEHICLE WAS HIT BY A STONE NOT ON INTENTION.

WAS  ANY AFRO RAPE OR KILLED BY INDIANS.

@Former Member, I understand the spreadsheets were initially used as there were discrepancies found in the SOPs. Do recall there were also recounts done in Region 5 and 6 during the debacle in Region 4.

I believe the only way Guyana can move forward is for there be another election date. If no winner is declared within 15 days of the last election, there is technically no government in power. This would trigger the need for a new election date within 3 months. This is new territory for everyone involved.

@Former Member thank you for reiterating and setting those guidelines.  

@Former Member please kindly refer to our administrator's guidelines on personal attacks, especially concerning race matters. I understand your insatiable need to bring race into this matter but I will not entertain you. 

Dave...chill  out