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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

7% of the black vote is a disgrace. 

 

carib:

 

* You're damn right! Only 7% of black people voting for the Indian led PPP is, indeed, a disgrace.

Rev

  Why should Africans support the PPP when it harbors racists like you, baseman and yuji, among others. 

 

Hey, stop your crap.  You know baseman position, as long the there are [constitutional] guarantees that the PNC can never militarize politics again is Guyana using the military to thwart the will of the people, then the PNC will be viewed much more favorably.  The PNC (APNU), with its massive support in the military and, given any natural human propensity to want to hang onto power, makes it a combustible mix.

 

The military (GDF), under a robust judicial control framework, is necessary or the PNC/GDF combo presents a grave existential threat to post-1992 democracy.

FM

Region Ten experienced hardship under spiteful regime – Chairman

May 3, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

– Dubs a vote for APNU+AFC, a vote for betterment  

Region Ten Chairman, Sharma Solomon, in a Labour Day message to workers, lamented the hardship the

Region 10 Chairman, Sharma Solomon

Region 10 Chairman, Sharma Solomon

Region endured because of the polices of the People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) administration controlled by former President Dr. Bharrat Jagdeo. He said however, that there is a ray of hope for the Region as well as Guyana under the governance of the A Partnership for National Unity and Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) coalition. β€œWe (the people of Linden) have for almost the past two decades, become intensely aware of what it means to be marginalized and shut out from enjoying equal benefits as some communities in other parts of Guyana, and as some workers in other non-bauxite sectors. β€œAnd I do not mean public servants. Save and except a few cronies, families and friends who enjoy nepotism of the Jagdeo and (President, Donald) Ramotar governments, life has been real hard for most of us,” said Solomon. The Regional Chairman said that Guyana did not know what real hardship was until Jagdeo entered Presidential office. β€œReal hardship is not the restrictions on the importation of apples and grapes when nothing can stop a Buxton spice mango, a sapodilla, star apple and papaw.” He said that real hardship is when the youth of Guyana live in despair, with little or no opportunities to improve their standard of living thus falling prey to β€œsophisticated criminals of the narcotic industry.” He added that real hardship is when the youth of Guyana attain a university education but remain unemployed, not even being able to repay their loans. β€œReal hardship is when our youth have their private parts mutilated by the state police, when hundreds of families are left to mourn the death of their children and bodies thrown throughout the length and breadth of Guyana in the most gruesome murders. β€œ(It is) when dozens of business men are massacred in unsolved criminal activities and the state is satisfied with accusation, finger pointing and no crime fighting and solutions,” said Solomon. He continued, β€œReal hardship is when Ministers of the government can be embroiled in criminal acts and questionable relationships; Guyana now knows what real hardship is! We now know what an abusive government is. We know what a spiteful president is. And we know what it is like to live under the policies and governance of a young dictator, named Bharrat Jagdeo.” Solomon said that those who want to avoid another five years of β€œreal hardship” must vote wisely on May, 11 β€œGet up, do what you have to do the night before. Nothing must stop you…If you have extreme hardship call your leaders in advance so we can make arrangements in advance to get you to the polls so we can vote these lawless people out of government.” He said that each Guyanese has the power to make a change and β€œmove this country forward under different governance where all Guyanese can unite, and build this nation for the good of all.” β€œThe APNU+AFC coalition has committed to you that they will listen to you; they will create the enabling environment for jobs; address the broken healthcare and education systems; they will stamp out corruption; look into the plight of the sugar industry; restore law, order and good governance; improve the University of Guyana; improve and expand infrastructures; respect our rights; protect our natural resources; give Guyanese a real shot at building this nation- a nation that will be great and for all to see- as we live our creed of One People, One Nation, One Destiny,’ said Solomon.

 

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Min. Ramsaran’s behaviour mirrors Jagdeo and Nandlall – APNU+AFC

April 26, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

…crosses every boundary of decency The Women and Youth Groups of A Partnership for National Unity and Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC)

Minister of Health, Bheri Ramsaran

Minister of Health, Bheri Ramsaran

Coalition has added their voices to the many others which have registered utter disapproval of the β€˜slap and strip threat’ made recently by Minister of Health, Bheri Ramsaran. Last Monday, Ramsaran verbally abused and threatened activist Sherlina Nageer because she, from all indications, touched a nerve as she questioned him about his presence on a protest front when the country’s health sector was in crisis . In expressing its disgust with the Minister’s comments the coalition on Friday said, β€œRamsaran’s behaviour crosses every boundary of decency.  He has once again demonstrated the crassness and total disrespect for this nation’s women. We are now convinced that this is an entrenched culture within the halls of Freedom House.” The APNU+AFC coalition recalled β€œcountless incidents of similar behaviour by former President Bharrat Jagdeo” and the β€œutterly vulgar, expletive-laced and condescending descriptions of a young reporter by the incumbent Attorney General, Anil Nandlall… We still cringe when we listen to the recent threats Ramsaran issued to Nageer.” The APNU+AFC described the governing People’s Progressive Party/Civic as a crew of β€œfoul-mouthed, disrespectful, uncultured officials” who have shown Guyanese time and time again that they have abrogated unto themselves the right to mistreat citizens.

UK High Commissioner, James Gregory Quinn

UK High Commissioner, James Gregory Quinn

β€œThe PPP/C is providing Guyanese with the reasons to remove them from the leadership of this country.  They have taken the trust and confidence that our people gave to them to lead us onto a path of development and enlightenment, and turned that trust into embarrassment at home and abroad, into verbal abuse of ordinary citizens, professionals and even of high ranking personages of the like Dr. Yesu Persaud. β€œThis abuse has to stop now.   We have grown tired of their constant spewing of racist rhetoric and their indulgence in hate mongering.  The PPP/C is a stain on Guyana’s international image,” said APNU+AFC.” Last Monday Minister Ramsaran was leading a protest demonstration outside the Whim Magistrate’s Court, Corentyne, Berbice, in support of former President Bharrat Jagdeo whose matter was being heard at the time inside the court. As he was being interviewed by reporters, Ramsaran said that those who mounted the protest were representing Jagdeo and were against the β€œwife beater” Christopher Ram. At that point, Nageer interjected, questioning Ramsaran as to whether Jagdeo hasn’t abused his wife as well. She went on to ask the Minister why he was wasting time on a protest line when he has more important issues to attend to with regard to Guyana’s health sector. Responding to Nageer’s questions, Ramsaran shouted, β€œShut your mouth and get out my face.” He subsequently called Nageer a β€œlittle piece of s**t” and boasted that he would very well β€œslap her ass, just for the fun of it and have some of his women strip her here.”

US Charge d’Affaires, Bryan Hunt

US Charge d’Affaires, Bryan Hunt

While the Women and Gender Equality Commission remains silent on the issue, several sections of society came out against it. Among those who have condemned the Health Minister are President Donald Ramotar and his running mate, PPP/C’s Prime Ministerial Candidate Elisabeth Harper, Education Minister Priya Manickchand, former President Bharrat Jagdeo and the youth and women arms of the APNU+AFC,  Red Thread and the envoys of the ABC countries.       β€œDisgraceful and Unacceptable-”United States Speaking to an online news agency, US Charge d’Affaires Bryan Hunt had stated that such statements have no place in a country like Guyana, that has a high rate of domestic violence and sexual and gender-based violence. Hunt was recorded as saying β€œIn a country that has a domestic violence rate as high as Guyana’s and a sexual assault rate as high as Guyana’s, it is downright irresponsible for any senior politician to make the statement to any woman, in public or in private, that the Minister of Health made the other day. It is completely unacceptable.” The US Charge d’Affaires reasoned that there is no β€œpossible reason or rationale to threaten sexual violence against anyone, but especially against a woman, given Guyana’s very serious gender-based violence problem”. β€œI think the damage is much more severe than what the  activist heard or the offence that she took at the remarks. I think it conveys a sense from a senior government official that somehow sexual violence is something that is appropriate to use, appropriate to threaten, and somehow societally acceptable and it’s not. It can’t be,” Hunt told the online agency. The excuse offered by Ramsaran was deemed unacceptable by the US envoy who made it clear that he does not believe that there is any possible provocation that any woman could have made that would legitimately result in a response in which a senior government official threatens that woman with violence. β€œThe Minister’s conduct was beyond, it was disgraceful…” β€œShould he resign out of his own volition? I’m not going to prescribe to the Minister what he ought to do, but what I will say is, in the United States if one of our candidate officials were to have made that sort of comment, that person would have been expected to resign without question. Hunt held that the same principle would hold true across any number of countries that a Minister making that type of inappropriate remark for whatever reason, would have chosen voluntarily to step down.

Has no place in 21st Century -United Kingdom Additionally, High Commissioner of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to Guyana, James Gregory Quinn described Ramsaran’s remarks as nothing short of β€˜disgraceful.’ The UK envoy told members of the media on Friday that had this been his country, Dr. Ramsaran would no longer be a Government Minister or even a member of the political party. β€œTo be brutally frank, what the Minister of Health said was disgraceful. The language he used and more importantly the sentiment that it is acceptable to use violence, in particularly sexual violence against a woman, has got no place whatsoever in the 21st century.” He went on to state, β€œIf that had been a UK Minister who had said that, he would no longer be a UK Minister and he would no longer be a member of the political party.”

Threats against women unacceptable- Canada Meanwhile, the High Commission of Canada on Friday said β€œThe remarks uttered are disturbing and the High Commission of Canada condemns any form of abuse, including verbal and threatened, towards women.  Threats of violence against women are never acceptable.” The High Commission said that the struggle to fully attain women’s rights, in Guyana and around the world, is an ongoing battle that must be won. β€œSuch incidents weaken the progress that has been made. Global statistics produced by the UN, reinforce the need to strengthen women’s rights…” β€œAll partners should be unwaveringly committed to advancing the rights of women.  Political leaders have a special responsibility because they have the largest platforms, influence and decision-making ability.  The High Commission of Canada hopes that leaders recognise the critical role they play in governance, including providing leadership and empowering the citizens of Guyana, including women.” Despite this, his party, the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) stated that the Health Minister’s actions were being blown out of proportion. Of note, it was mere hours after issuing an apology for his β€œharsh words” that the Minister launched another tirade against Nageer. As he addressed a meeting of Regional Health Officers at the Main Street Plaza, Georgetown the Health Minister was recorded labeling Nageer a β€œmiscreant,”  and that she was in need of β€œpsychiatric help.” Last April, the Health Minister had similarly come in for criticisms after he made unwanted sexual remarks to a journalist of this newspaper. Ramsaran reportedly told the 22-year old journalist who sought an interview, β€œI want you to know that I am a bachelor and I can still get an erection.” Also, a few years back, a PPP member who worked at the Ministry of Education had alleged that she asked him to drop home her 14-year-old daughter but instead he took her to an East Coast Demerara village where he reportedly fondled her private parts.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Region Ten experienced hardship under spiteful regime – Chairman

May 3, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

– Dubs a vote for APNU+AFC, a vote for betterment  

Region Ten Chairman, Sharma Solomon, in a Labour Day message to workers, lamented the hardship the

Region 10 Chairman, Sharma Solomon

Region 10 Chairman, Sharma Solomon

....The Regional Chairman said that Guyana did not know what real hardship was until Jagdeo entered Presidential office. β€œReal hardship is not the restrictions on the importation of apples and grapes when nothing can stop a Buxton spice mango, a sapodilla, star apple and papaw.” ..

 

...as we live our creed of One People, One Nation, One Destiny,’ said Solomon.

 

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Real hardship for the terrorists of Buxton, Agricola, Linden, etc where they could no longer act with impunity and under the shelter of the Old Guard".  That banna Jagdeo made the terrorists lives real hard.

 

One People, One Nation, One Destiny, but he knew no real hardship under the PNC citing shortage of grapes and apples.  Well, he was living in a different nation.  Hear this banna talk, it's like echoes of the past Burnham era.  No idea of the life of misery, brutality, subjugation and institutional and street terror the masses [mostly Indian] had to endure.

 

THOSE WHO FORGET THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT.

 

And this banna don't even acknowledge the past.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

If we use 47% of the voters as Indian and 5% of the voters as Amerindian, that was where the PPP won votes.  Almost none from blacks, and few from mixed voters, and this is very obvious in who shows up at your PPP meetings.

 

OK Carib!

 

* So you are assuming the East Indian turnout in the 2011 election was 47% and the Amerindian turnout was 5%

 

* We know that the PPP received 48.6% of the total votes.

 

* Let's now work with these assumptions regarding the ethnic make up of the votes:

 

47% = East Indians

34% = Blacks

14% = Mixed

 5% = Amerindians

 

* Now carib --with the PPP getting 48.6%---here is the likely breakdown by ethnicity:

 

83% of Indos voted for the PPP =(0.83 x 47%) = 39.01%

70% of Amerindians voted for the PPP =(0.7 x 5%) = 3.5%

27% of Mixed voted for the PPP =(0.27 x 14%) = 3.78%

7% of blacks voted for the PPP =(0.07 x 34%) = 2.38%

 

ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER

 

39.01% + 3.5% + 3.78% + 2.38% = 48.67%

 

* That's what the PPP received in 2011---48.6%

 

* And therefore the likely breakdown by ethnicity was:

 

83% of East Indians voted for the PPP

70% of Amerindians voted for the PPP

27% of Mixed voted for the PPP

 7% of Blacks voted for the PPP

 

* THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE CARIB!

 

* The PPP did well among Mixed(27%) and managed to get 7% of the black votes.

 

Rev

 

BASEMAN: Build on that for 2015 using the same turn-out ratio but with the AFC de-fanged:

 

PPP scores

95% Indos = (0.95 x 47%) = 44.6%

 

Leaving all other assumption the same, means PPP (48.6% + 5.5%) = 54%, baseman's projections.

 

Taking another helicopter view, 48.6% in 2011, plus most of the 6% regained from the AFC, where do we stand, PPP 54%, conservatively.

 

The Region 11 voters who will travel down (giving most to the opposition) will hardly have an impact.

 

Baseman:

 

* I like your REASONING AND LOGIC.

 

* By the way, did you get permission from caribny and the dead wood pandit/bhajan singer to use that avatar ?

 

Rev

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

If we use 47% of the voters as Indian and 5% of the voters as Amerindian, that was where the PPP won votes.  Almost none from blacks, and few from mixed voters, and this is very obvious in who shows up at your PPP meetings.

 

OK Carib!

 

* So you are assuming the East Indian turnout in the 2011 election was 47% and the Amerindian turnout was 5%

 

* We know that the PPP received 48.6% of the total votes.

 

* Let's now work with these assumptions regarding the ethnic make up of the votes:

 

47% = East Indians

34% = Blacks

14% = Mixed

 5% = Amerindians

 

* Now carib --with the PPP getting 48.6%---here is the likely breakdown by ethnicity:

 

83% of Indos voted for the PPP =(0.83 x 47%) = 39.01%

70% of Amerindians voted for the PPP =(0.7 x 5%) = 3.5%

27% of Mixed voted for the PPP =(0.27 x 14%) = 3.78%

7% of blacks voted for the PPP =(0.07 x 34%) = 2.38%

 

ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER

 

39.01% + 3.5% + 3.78% + 2.38% = 48.67%

 

* That's what the PPP received in 2011---48.6%

 

* And therefore the likely breakdown by ethnicity was:

 

83% of East Indians voted for the PPP

70% of Amerindians voted for the PPP

27% of Mixed voted for the PPP

 7% of Blacks voted for the PPP

 

* THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE CARIB!

 

* The PPP did well among Mixed(27%) and managed to get 7% of the black votes.

 

Rev

 

BASEMAN: Build on that for 2015 using the same turn-out ratio but with the AFC de-fanged:

 

PPP scores

95% Indos = (0.95 x 47%) = 44.6%

 

Leaving all other assumption the same, means PPP (48.6% + 5.5%) = 54%, baseman's projections.

 

Taking another helicopter view, 48.6% in 2011, plus most of the 6% regained from the AFC, where do we stand, PPP 54%, conservatively.

 

The Region 11 voters who will travel down (giving most to the opposition) will hardly have an impact.

 

Baseman:

 

* I like your REASONING AND LOGIC.

 

* By the way, did you get permission from caribny to use that avatar ?

 

Rev

We needed an "Indian Burnham" and history would be different.

FM

AFC is dead. There is no more AFC. That party has been swallowed up by the PNC. But guess what folks ? When Moses campaigns in East Indian villages, he lies to them and says he is from the AFC.

 

Bharrat Jagdeo said he has been informed that party members, including Prime Ministerial Candidate of the PNC-led A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance for Change (APNU/AFC) coalition Moses Nagamootoo, are going into villages, campaigning as a single entity named β€œAFC”. He said if this is indeed true, then the party is only seeking to deceive the electorate since there β€œis no more AFC”.

 

 

http://www.guyanatimesgy.com/2...ad-subsumed-in-apnu/

 

* Moses tun PNC but secretly him shame of him new party.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by simple:

As i stated Indians will not want to join the GDF. A new service has to be started. That's how change will come about. We want to help the country. You are too old to understand that new thinking has to come into play.

Young man, for your information, the 1961-64 PPP government had established a Special Services Unit [SSU] because the British Guiana Volunteer Force [BGVF] was overwhelmingly Afro.

The PPP encouraged Indos countrywide to join the SSU. A few young men from my neighbourhood joined up but only one stayed until Burnham combined the SSU and the BGVF to form the GDF.

After 1992 the PPP had ample time and appropriate power to balance the GDF but failed. I will not blame the PPP here; not their fault. You can take a horse to the water but you cannot force the horse to drink that water.

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

The other blunt truth is that some Indos don't relish the idea of communal garrison mingling with Afros; sleeping and bathing and eating together. The next blunt truth is that while some Indos don't mind killing themselves with gramaxone and a piece of rope, they dread the thought of being killed in a military firefight.

Brave non-racial Indo soldiers like Shaitaan are an endangered specie.

 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Africans are afraid of the PPP. What is the PPP doing to alleviate that fear?

 

* POPPYCOCK!

 

* The only afro Guyanese who are afraid of the PPP are the PNC "freedom fighters". A few years back a number of them were exterminated by the Jagdeo/Gajraj team.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Africans are afraid of the PPP. What is the PPP doing to alleviate that fear?

 

* POPPYCOCK!

 

* The only afro Guyanese who are afraid of the PPP are the PNC "freedom fighters". A few years back a number of them were exterminated by the Jagdeo/Gajraj team.

 

Rev

 

 

this is funny i think the rat-rat say he know nothing about this and he do not know roger khan don't tell me he lie again 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

and you collie ass complain about balance in the force go stick your head up kwame ass

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

We needed an "Indian Burnham" and history would be different.

 

* Jagdeo is Guyana's Putin.

 

* Jags and Gajraj did a splendid job exterminating the PNC freedom fighters.

 

* Thanks to those to East Indians sons, Jags and Gaj, Guyana is now a more peaceful country.

 

Rev

you are funny every day some one is shot and kill and guyana is peaceful you fools ever listen to yourself

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

write a letter to freedum house with your advise,see if the ppp care a shit 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

 

* I have visited "Bharat" but have never met any of their military guys.

 

* Anyway, excellent post above!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

 

* I have visited "Bharat" but have never met any of their military guys.

 

* Anyway, excellent post above!

 

Rev

HE VISIT to have a bugger party with the funny fellas 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

lot of indians people was in the ARMY in the PNC days my cousin was a captain,many Indians guys from my area was in the ARMY 

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

If you read what I wrote, has nothing to with with race clown.  Yes, some Indians are at senior levels and live a decent and sometimes enviable life.  The is not the same for the ranks.  My point was, make the deal for the ranks sweeter, make it a high-value proposition, you will see more Indians lining up.  The sweetening of the deal will benefit all, irregardless of race.

 

Please point me to the racism in my pot.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

If you read what I wrote, has nothing to with with race clown.  Yes, some Indians are at senior levels and live a decent and sometimes enviable life.  The is not the same for the ranks.  My point was, make the deal for the ranks sweeter, make it a high-value proposition, you will see more Indians lining up.  The sweetening of the deal will benefit all, irregardless of race.

 

Please point me to the racism in my pot.

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

7% of the black vote is a disgrace. 

 

carib:

 

* You're damn right! Only 7% of black people voting for the Indian led PPP is, indeed, a disgrace.

Rev

  Why should Africans support the PPP when it harbors racists like you, baseman and yuji, among others. 

 

Hey, stop your crap.  You know baseman position, as long the there are [constitutional] guarantees that the PNC can never militarize politics again is Guyana using the military to thwart the will of the people, then the PNC will be viewed much more favorably.  The PNC (APNU), with its massive support in the military and, given any natural human propensity to want to hang onto power, makes it a combustible mix.

 

The military (GDF), under a robust judicial control framework, is necessary or the PNC/GDF combo presents a grave existential threat to post-1992 democracy.

Oh I see.  ONLY the Indian ethnic insecurity dilemma should be addressed.  Just ignore black people.

 

Well I will bring up your well earned reputation of being a racist when 5 years ago you used to scream that we were dirty, illiterate, lazy, criminal, and of no use to Guyana.

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

If you read what I wrote, has nothing to with with race clown.  Yes, some Indians are at senior levels and live a decent and sometimes enviable life.  The is not the same for the ranks.  My point was, make the deal for the ranks sweeter, make it a high-value proposition, you will see more Indians lining up.  The sweetening of the deal will benefit all, irregardless of race.

 

Please point me to the racism in my pot.

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

I asked you to point out where my post was "racist".  Are you a delinquent?

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

HE VISIT to have a bugger party with the funny fellas 

Lone warrior, "Bharat" is the original name for the nation of India.

Who give a shyte Baseman.  Why don't you join a boat and head to Indian if you so love the Indian way?

 

Jacko!

You digress one million miles from the point.  Is that how you deal with your inadequacies?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

If you read what I wrote, has nothing to with with race clown.  Yes, some Indians are at senior levels and live a decent and sometimes enviable life.  The is not the same for the ranks.  My point was, make the deal for the ranks sweeter, make it a high-value proposition, you will see more Indians lining up.  The sweetening of the deal will benefit all, irregardless of race.

 

Please point me to the racism in my pot.

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

I asked you to point out where my post was "racist".  Are you a delinquent?

I ask you a question.  Not until you answer, go FRUCK yourself, you insane c00llie idiot.

 

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:

  Why should Africans support the PPP when it harbors racists like you, baseman and yuji, among others. 

 

Hey, stop your crap.  You know baseman position, as long the there are [constitutional] guarantees that the PNC can never militarize politics again is Guyana using the military to thwart the will of the people, then the PNC will be viewed much more favorably.  The PNC (APNU), with its massive support in the military and, given any natural human propensity to want to hang onto power, makes it a combustible mix.

 

The military (GDF), under a robust judicial control framework, is necessary or the PNC/GDF combo presents a grave existential threat to post-1992 democracy.

Oh I see.  ONLY the Indian ethnic insecurity dilemma should be addressed.  Just ignore black people.

 

Well I will bring up your well earned reputation of being a racist when 5 years ago you used to scream that we were dirty, illiterate, lazy, criminal, and of no use to Guyana.

Blacks constitute 90% of all armed forces.  They have no reason to fear anything.  They have all the security.

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

If you read what I wrote, has nothing to with with race clown.  Yes, some Indians are at senior levels and live a decent and sometimes enviable life.  The is not the same for the ranks.  My point was, make the deal for the ranks sweeter, make it a high-value proposition, you will see more Indians lining up.  The sweetening of the deal will benefit all, irregardless of race.

 

Please point me to the racism in my pot.

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

I asked you to point out where my post was "racist".  Are you a delinquent?

I ask you a question.  Not until you answer, go FRUCK yourself, you insane c00llie idiot.

 

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

I guess it's the best one can expect gives your IQ.

 

Now, I make it easier for your kindergarten intellect.  Go back to the original post in this string (highlighted in red) and start over your discussion.

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

HE VISIT to have a bugger party with the funny fellas 

Lone warrior, "Bharat" is the original name for the nation of India.

Who give a shyte Baseman.  Why don't you join a boat and head to Indian if you so love the Indian way?

 

Jacko!

Are you "warrior's" panty-hose?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Why didnt the PPP get rid of all the africans in the army and or recruit more indians?

As expected none of the usual suspects could answer the question they just pissing away from the fly.

Is it the core issue?

If yuh whining and complaining about it and you are making it an issue then yes it is an issue. Whether it is the core issue or not dat is your problem right Forbesy?

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Why didnt the PPP get rid of all the africans in the army and or recruit more indians?

As expected none of the usual suspects could answer the question they just pissing away from the fly.

Is it the core issue?

If yuh whining and complaining about it and you are making it an issue then yes it is an issue. Whether it is the core issue or not dat is your problem right Forbesy?

Ok then, what's the core issue?

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
 

 

The blunt truth is that most young Indo-Guyanese don't see an opportunity to make money in the army. There is a money-making obsession among many Indos.

 

 

* You are 100% correct! East Indian men would prefer to cut cane or sell sweetie rather than join the military where they earn peanuts.

 

* Afros have a more appropriate mindset for military service than Indos.

 

Rev

You clearly never visited "Bharat" and met dem military guys over there.  My uncles were very active in the police in the 60's but were shut out of becoming part of the GDF.  LFSB told them they will rot in the police ranks as they were Jagan's militants.

 

Now, coming to what the military today offers, many young Indian don't see the end game with the military.  They want more and opt out, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.  By the time it does not work for them, it's too late.  The military should offer programs which provide valuable employable skills for anyone who leaves after a certain tenure.  In addition, other social benefits should accrue which makes a stint in the military more appealing.

You are being dishonest here.

 

The Deputy Chief of Staff in the GDF is an East Indian.

 

His name is Colonel. Kemraj Persaud.  Then you have Colonel Jawar Persaud, Colonel Omar Khan.

 

Stop this racist crap Baseman.

 

Head and Deputy head of the Police are Seelal Persaud and Balram Persaud.

 

What you really going on with.

 

Indians are staying in the officer corp.

If you read what I wrote, has nothing to with with race clown.  Yes, some Indians are at senior levels and live a decent and sometimes enviable life.  The is not the same for the ranks.  My point was, make the deal for the ranks sweeter, make it a high-value proposition, you will see more Indians lining up.  The sweetening of the deal will benefit all, irregardless of race.

 

Please point me to the racism in my pot.

You ever called yu MUDA a clown?

He is a door knob. He reminds me of the clown, whose funeral, one car was enough for his friends.

Mitwah

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