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Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

 

 

 

 

Black voters comprised 13% of the total votes in 2008--that was 2% larger than the historical average(11%). But Obama is having problems motivating black voters in 2012. Yes! 95% of those who show up at the polling booths will vote for Obama, but there is a strong possibly that black voting percentage will drop from 13% to 11% in 2012. This is bad news for Obama.

 

LOTS OF BLACKS WERE DUMBFOUNDED BY WHAT THEY SAW DURING THE FIRST DEBATE. ROMNEY MASSACRED OBAMA MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF BLACKS.

 

Rev

Quit yapping like a blustering fool and pretending to speak with authority on black electoral intent when it is the hapless wishes of some republican shill hoping that their schemes can suppress the black vote. 

 

You speak to your perception of black people; the ignorant, lazy slothful ones of your imagination you racist pig.

 

Obama will win and his win will be on account of a cross section of the people of these United states voting for him.


Stormy:

 

Did you read Bob Herbert's recent column blasting Obama ?

 

Here is what he said:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...cuses_b_1941156.html

 

 

 

 

"It is time(for noise-makers like Stormborn) to stop making excuses for Barack Obama. With so much at stake in this election, his performance at the debate on Wednesday night was indefensible." Bob Herbert

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

 

 

 

 

Black voters comprised 13% of the total votes in 2008--that was 2% larger than the historical average(11%). But Obama is having problems motivating black voters in 2012. Yes! 95% of those who show up at the polling booths will vote for Obama, but there is a strong possibly that black voting percentage will drop from 13% to 11% in 2012. This is bad news for Obama.

 

LOTS OF BLACKS WERE DUMBFOUNDED BY WHAT THEY SAW DURING THE FIRST DEBATE. ROMNEY MASSACRED OBAMA MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF BLACKS.

 

Rev

Quit yapping like a blustering fool and pretending to speak with authority on black electoral intent when it is the hapless wishes of some republican shill hoping that their schemes can suppress the black vote. 

 

You speak to your perception of black people; the ignorant, lazy slothful ones of your imagination you racist pig.

 

Obama will win and his win will be on account of a cross section of the people of these United states voting for him.


Stormy:

 

Did you read Bob Herbert's recent column blasting Obama ?

 

Here is what he said:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...cuses_b_1941156.html

 

 

 

 

"It is time(for noise-makers like Stormborn) to stop making excuses for Barack Obama. With so much at stake in this election, his performance at the debate on Wednesday night was indefensible." Bob Herbert

 

The gentleman considers himself an old school reporter speaking his heart. He also never said Obama is incompetent or a racist or a Kenyan or a Muslim as you have so pretending he supports your opinion as well as your spurious "predictive" stats on the behavior of black people is nonsense. Further, everything he said of Obama Caribj habitually say so why is he authoritative for saying it and Caribj  just a pedestrian thinker?

 

The operant statement here is that the President never made excuses. Others did on their own. The man is clearly no fool and obviously can contest any of the points made in the process of the debate because it is what he do habitually on the campaign reail. If on some adviser advice he was caution to ignore the lies and focus on messaging then he made a mistake. To say he was a dunce etc is for stupid persons like you with an axe to grind and a need to fictionalize the man so you can beat him in your minds.

 

Well. the real Obama is a shrewd calculating man who is ambitious and concerned about his legacy so look forward for Mit Romney being handed his ass in the next one no less than Gingrich did after being surprised by the flip flopper.  As Huntsman said, Mitt Romney is a well oiled weather vane. He will swing quickly where ever the wind blows since he does not have a fixed sense of self with respect to the presidency of the United States. He simply wants to be the president.

 

FM

70 MILLION AMERICANS SAW THEM ON STAGE FOR THE FIRST TIME--ROMNEY WAS PRESIDENTIAL; OBAMA WAS THE PRESIDENT WITH NO CLOTHES.

 

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It was the most lopsided presidential debate in American history. Duncy Obama was decimated. Brilliant Romney gave a master class at kicking Obama's a$$. America and the world saw the real Romney and the real Obama. Romney was presidential, while Obama was the president with no clothes.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

70 MILLION AMERICANS SAW THEM ON STAGE FOR THE FIRST TIME--ROMNEY WAS PRESIDENTIAL; OBAMA WAS THE PRESIDENT WITH NO CLOTHES.

 


 

 

It was the most lopsided presidential debate in American history. Duncy Obama was decimated. Brilliant Romney gave a master class at kicking Obama's a$$. America and the world saw the real Romney and the real Obama. Romney was presidential, while Obama was the president with no clothes.

 

Rev

 For a moron like you being an animated talking head trumps substance. Why dont you who pretend you are so smart bring any portion of the debate transcript you believe to be silly or an answer that you think out of place and illustrate that fact.

 

Unfortunately, you are just a shallow racist pig whose only input would be to pilfer the most vile bigoted caricature of the president from the hate site and bring them here as though they would make sense. I am sure you have one or two kindred here but in general all think you are an ass and know you as a racist one at that.

 

Is there a real Romney? Which of the various character he played and to whom his primary mates addressed or any of the ones across his political career that seem to be the stable core. The man is a changeling. He is what he cares to be when he wants to be. As Huntsman said, the "well oiled weather vane" or as Kennedy said, a person identity convoluted that if one leaves him along long enough he would convince himself he is you. Gingrich said it best. The man is a perverse liar.

 

No one has to make these things up. It is what it is. That is for you the smart one but you are to be shunned if not pitied for your awful toxic racism.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
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Is there a real Romney?


Stormy:

 

Of course there is a real Mitt Romney! 70 million Americans saw him slaughter the empty, bumbling, inarticulate fool, Odinga Hussein Obambi.

 

TAKE A LOOK AT THAT PHOTO STORMY!

 

What was once " HOPE AND CHANGE" is now "MOPE AND BLAME."

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
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Is there a real Romney?


Stormy:

 

Of course there is a real Mitt Romney! 70 million Americans saw him slaughter the empty, bumbling, inarticulate fool, Odinga Hussein Obambi.

 

TAKE A LOOK AT THAT PHOTO STORMY!

 

What was once " HOPE AND CHANGE" is now "MOPE AND BLAME."

 

Rev

 

The People saw a man pretending to be another man who was impersonating an actor playing a part. There is no real Romney. Probe as deep as you can you will find a Romney under every layer of an endless stream personality traits.

FM

THE GREAT AMERICAN ICON CLINT EASTWOOD WAS MOST PRESCIENT

 

 

 

70 million Americans watched the debate, and most now agree with Clint---"you've got to let him go"---the racist Odinga Hussein Obambi, America's first muslim born black marxist president is TOAST.

 

HOW MANY OF YOU SAW THE SKIT ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE MOCKING OBAMA ?

 

Obama has become a laughing stock!

 

Rev

FM

BAD NEWS FOR DARKIES SUPPORTING OBAMA---UPDATED ELECTION FORECASTING MODEL STILL POINTS TO ROMNEY WIN, UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO STUDY SAYS

 

 

Remember folks--the University of Colorado forecasting model has correctly predicted the winner of every election since 1980.

 

READ MORE:

 

An update to an election forecasting model announced by two University of Colorado professors in August continues to project that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 presidential election.

 

According to their updated analysis, Romney is projected to receive 330 of the total 538 Electoral College votes. President Barack Obama is expected to receive 208 votes -- down five votes from their initial prediction -- and short of the 270 needed to win.

 

http://www.colorado.edu/news/r...omney-win-university

FM

riginally Posted by Rev Al:

Originally Posted by Stormborn:
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Is there a real Romney?


Stormy:

 

Of course there is a real Mitt Romney! 70 million Americans saw him slaughter the empty, bumbling, inarticulate fool, Odinga Hussein Obambi.

 

TAKE A LOOK AT THAT PHOTO STORMY!

 

What was once " HOPE AND CHANGE" is now "MOPE AND BLAME."

 

Rev

 

I think the bumbling inarticulate fool is the one you summon after a few shots of vodka in the morning. It is the same process that beings in the Muslim, Kenyan born Marxist that is Obama. I am not interested in your hallucinations. Check above for the real Romney...does not exist and that is what everyone is coming to understand.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

OVER 15,000 RALLY FOR MITT ROMNEY IN PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA--NOT A SINGLE DARKIE

 

 

It is crystal clear that white Americans are hellbent on taking back their country from the racist black guy---he received 43% of the white votes in 2008---he'll be lucky to get 35% in 2012.

 

Rev

Looks like a mini Republican convention. Alas, you are not invited...painting your face and calling yourself an honorary white man will not make it happen.

 

It takes much self deception to say this is a white people only country.  It is rainbow fool. It even started brown

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

THE GREAT AMERICAN ICON CLINT EASTWOOD WAS MOST PRESCIENT

 

 

 

70 million Americans watched the debate, and most now agree with Clint---"you've got to let him go"---the racist Odinga Hussein Obambi, America's first muslim born black marxist president is TOAST.

 

HOW MANY OF YOU SAW THE SKIT ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE MOCKING OBAMA ?

 

Obama has become a laughing stock!

 

Rev

 

I feel that Obama no longer has what it takes to move the country forward due to his lack of political experience. The debate separated the men from the boys and Obama performance was like a real dunce.

 

It was like Romney threw Obama in the back of his pick up truck and drove him around at 100 miles an hour.

 

I am deeply embarrasses that I threw my support behind a dunce and man who is clueless. In the end, I hope the people choose the right man to lead America. 

 

The polls are now showing a dead heat and Romney might chew up the dunce Obama in the second debate. Rev was right all along, we were all wrong. 

 

Obama depends on teleprompters and lacks basic debating skills. A dull performance is an understatement. Obama is no Bill Clinton. 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

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The numbers are cooked. 


Examine your silly logic.  If the numbers are cooked why havent they reflected unemployment under 7% since January?

 

There is indeed a problem with how the laborforce is defined and indeed many "discouraged" workers are not at homw twiddling their thumbs now wishing to work.

 

But that has nothing to do with politics.

 

So content yourself with the fact that Clinton and Reagan who RAISED taxes as part of a response to budget deficits enjoyed the strongest labor markets over the past 30 years.

 

Bush who CUT taxes saw jobs disappearing at a rate of 700k per month as he left office.

 

So tell me Oh Wise One why will Romney succeed.  We have YET to get a strategy from him.  One day he says that cutting taxes for the "job creators" (which include old ladies and trust fund kids who live off investment income) will magically create 12 million jobs. 

 

Th next day he says that the ricj will pay the same amount in taxes and only the middle class will see reduced taxes...BY THE WAY OBAMA SAYS THE SAME THING!

 

It is fine to say that Obama is a disappointment and only pas attention to the economy when polls dictate that he ought to.  Finding health insurance and solar panels way more interesting topics.

 

But to pretend that Romney has the answer when

 

1.  He changes his plans every day and

 

2.  Tax cuts have already been a ;proven failure

 

is RIDICULOUS!!!!

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

 

 

 

I ust came back from the ground in two of the key states and Romney is getting his clock cleaned.

 

 

 

 

 


Not sure that you can say that as you probably were not in red neck country, and so were over exposed to Obama supporters.

 

As of now we do not know what will happen.  Americans are confused.

 

Their choices are

 

1.  A President who is exhausted and unable to defend his record, or to come up with new strategies to quicken the economy, given that his existing ones have clearly failed  AND

 

2.  An opponent who seems even less capable as he is yet to come up with tangible ideas to show how he will jump start the economy.  More disturbingly, one who is a snake oil salesman who will say anything to "close the deal".  He pretended to hate the poor when he sought money from teh ultra wealthy.  He pretended to be a super conservative to win the Primaries.  Now he is pretended to be super compassionate, even borrowing  a pretended revulsion of the Dodd Frank bill, because "it gives NY banks a sweet heart deal".....the same guys who got a large % of his money from.  This when we know that he just hates regulation period.

 

Dont be surprised if we see a low turnout by voters who have lost faith in either and will (in true Guyana style) vote on their fears and not their hopes.  This will be like the Bush/Kerry election....this not being a prediction on who will win.

 

What is obvious is that there is definitely not the excitement for Obama that we saw in 2008.  And when we take into account large numbers of white Americans who lie to pollsters when asked about a "black" candidate we do not know for a fact what his true support will be.  And about how mnay blacks, Hispanics or young college age voters will show up, all three groups suffering mightily since 2008 and not necessarily in a mood to vote. 

 

And we havent even gotten to the rumors that many black pastors are telling their congregations not to vote because of Obama's support fpor gay marriage. Black pastors who tremendous influence in the South over the female vote.

 

Obama needs to know Romney off his perch, expose his lies and remind America what Romney said at the convention a mere 6 weeks ago.  If he falls asleep again he is history, because "the Dream is Gone".  People just want a man who is less bad than the other.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

 

 

I feel that Obama no longer has what it takes to move the country forward due to his lack of political experience.

 

 


While Obama's performance was abysmal and even the blatantly pro Obama SNL had to laugh at him, what did Romney say that was so impressive.

 

Were I a Romney supporter I would be very confused as he contradicted himself and, aside from screaming about the magic of the market place...looked not that different from Obama  while he swore that he would keep important parts of Obamacare, not change Medicare expenditures, nor will he reduce taxes that "job creators" pay, while cutting taxes for the middle class.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

Quit yapping like a blustering fool and pretending to speak with authority on black electoral intent when it is the hapless wishes of some republican shill hoping that their schemes can suppress the black vote. 

 


Given that Obama is catering to every part of his base, but the African American segment (he runs like a deer fleeing a bear when ever that topic comes up), this is indeed a quietly discussed problem.

 

Oh yes he will get virtually all of those who do show up.  But then many will not and almost certainly not the numbers who did in 2008 when the increased black vote was instrumental in his victories in several swing states.  Then they showed up for the First Black President, hoping that finally they had some one who would listen to them in the halls of power.

 

Alas many feel that he hasnt.  This reminds of David Dinkins who lost when the black support he got when he initially won, diminished significantly when he ran for re-election.

 

The Democratic party thinks that they own the black vote.  They dont.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

 

 

I feel that Obama no longer has what it takes to move the country forward due to his lack of political experience.

 

 


While Obama's performance was abysmal and even the blatantly pro Obama SNL had to laugh at him, what did Romney say that was so impressive.

 

Were I a Romney supporter I would be very confused as he contradicted himself and, aside from screaming about the magic of the market place...looked not that different from Obama  while he swore that he would keep important parts of Obamacare, not change Medicare expenditures, nor will he reduce taxes that "job creators" pay, while cutting taxes for the middle class.

 

 

 

Why should Americans re-elect a failed president who did not provided any help to those who stood in line for hours to vote for him ?

 

Obama is now seen as a part of the political establishment that he was suppose to change. It does not bode well for his re-election because he failed the people who voted for change.

 

We need to remember, Obama failed very badly in the debate. Romney now has momentum and in politics momentum is important. 

 

Romney is now stealing the foreign policy agenda and I am certain that Obama  will not be able to defeat Romney in the next debate. I predict another victory for Romney.

 

Romney's support is growing among women, another bad sign for Obama.

 

I do not see an any urgency in the Obama campaign, he still does not get it. Some of his advisers should be fired but they are still intact and providing bad advice. Bad news, very bad news for Obama.

 

Romney's base is fired up and the crowds that he is attracting is a proof that is evident.

 

Is Obama now finished ? 

 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Latest poll: Romney 40%, Obama 45%.

 

Yujji22, you keching sense.  Obama is a nice guy, no doubt, but clearly his professorial talent does not translate to real action.  He will make for a great professor at Yale.  Time for a doer, enough of great speeches.

 

Some polls are showing the opposite. Very bad news for Obama. I now predict a Romney victory. Obama's campaign will soon be in tailspin.

 

Rev was right all along, minus the race thing.

 

Yes, I said it and I am man enough to do so. 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

Quit yapping like a blustering fool and pretending to speak with authority on black electoral intent when it is the hapless wishes of some republican shill hoping that their schemes can suppress the black vote. 

 


Given that Obama is catering to every part of his base, but the African American segment (he runs like a deer fleeing a bear when ever that topic comes up), this is indeed a quietly discussed problem.

 

Oh yes he will get virtually all of those who do show up.  But then many will not and almost certainly not the numbers who did in 2008 when the increased black vote was instrumental in his victories in several swing states.  Then they showed up for the First Black President, hoping that finally they had some one who would listen to them in the halls of power.

 

Alas many feel that he hasnt.  This reminds of David Dinkins who lost when the black support he got when he initially won, diminished significantly when he ran for re-election.

 

The Democratic party thinks that they own the black vote.  They dont.

The democratic party has not and does not take black vote or Hispanic vote lightly. That is why their convention is rainbow and the Republicans pristine white.

 

Obama has indeed not drifted to the traditional role of a black individual in embracing the formal black political institutions and leaders. He has for reasons of his own and one can sensibly deduce that he is the President and not simply a black president.

 

We have had this conversation previously and as noted then it is almost  impossible to live in a race neutral world in America but that is his burden. He cannot be seen to be overly pandering to black needs hence he has not had formal alone meetings with the black congressional caucus and for example never visited the black congressional retreat in Tunica to listen to their sessions as a senator or as president.

 

FM

PRINCETON ECONOMIST CALLS OUT LYING OBAMA FOR FALSE CLAIMS REGARDING ROMNEY'S TAX PLANS.

 

READ MORE:

 

President Obama keeps saying that economists all agree that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would raise taxes on the middle class. In a fundraising email they(the Obama folks) named two economists, “Harvard economist Martin Feldstein and Princeton economist Harvey Rosen both concede that paying for Romney’s tax cuts would require large tax increases on families making between $100,000 and $200,000.” The problem, they didn’t make that concession.

 

 

But that’s not true Princeton professor Harvey Rosen tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD in an email that the Obama campaign is misrepresenting his paper on Romney’s tax plan:

I can’t tell exactly how the Obama campaign reached that characterization of my workIt might be that they assume that Governor Romney wants to keep the taxes from the Affordable Care Act in place, despite the fact that the Governor has called for its complete repealThe main conclusion of my study is that  under plausible assumptions, a proposal along the lines suggested by Governor Romney can both be revenue neutral and keep the net tax burden on taxpayers with incomes above $200,000 about the same That is, an increase in the tax burden on lower and middle income individuals is not required in order to make the overall plan revenue neutral.

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THERE YOU HAVE IT--OBAMA HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN ANOTHER LIE!

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

 

 

I feel that Obama no longer has what it takes to move the country forward due to his lack of political experience.

 

 


While Obama's performance was abysmal and even the blatantly pro Obama SNL had to laugh at him, what did Romney say that was so impressive.

 

Were I a Romney supporter I would be very confused as he contradicted himself and, aside from screaming about the magic of the market place...looked not that different from Obama  while he swore that he would keep important parts of Obamacare, not change Medicare expenditures, nor will he reduce taxes that "job creators" pay, while cutting taxes for the middle class.

 

 

What the president did not do was perform or pander or take pot shots a the nonsense from Romney. The one that showed up for the debate was clearly not the one on the campaign trail for the past six years. It takes a special kind of person to walk back that legacy in a 90 mins. 

 

It takes a special person to say he will kick the ball down t he road on the Israeli/Palestinian question and assert he has sound foreign policy. That special person also said he has written off 47 percent of the People but is for 100 percent of them. Yes Obama needed to call him a liar and tell him he is a loon but that would not have been presidential. He will come close in the next debate

FM

DIEHARD BARACK SUPPORTER ANDREW SULLIVAN: DID OBAMA JUST THROW THE ENTIRE ELECTION AWAY ?

 

 

READ & WEEP STORMBORN & CO:

 

 

The Pew poll is devastating, just devastating. Before the debate, Obama had a 51 - 43 lead; now, Romney has a 49 - 45 lead. That's a simply unprecedented reversal for a candidate in October. Before Obama had leads on every policy issue and personal characteristic; now Romney leads in almost all of them. Obama's performance gave Romney a 12 point swing! I repeat: a 12 point swing.

 

Romney's favorables are above Obama's now. Yes, you read that right. Romney's favorables are higher than Obama's right now. That gender gap that was Obama's firewall? Over in one night:

 

Currently, women are evenly divided (47% Obama, 47% Romney). Last month, Obama led Romney by 18 points (56% to 38%) among women likely voters.

 

Seriously: has that kind of swing ever happened this late in a campaign? Has any candidate lost 18 points among women voters in one night ever? And we are told that when Obama left the stage that night, he was feeling good.

 

That's terrifying. On every single issue, Obama has instantly plummeted into near-oblivion. He still has some personal advantages over Romney - even though they are all much diminished. Obama still has an edge on Medicare, scores much higher on relating to ordinary people, is ahead on foreign policy, and on being moderate, consistent and honest (only 14 percent of swing voters believe Romney is honest). But on the core issues of the economy and the deficit, Romney is now kicking the president's ass:

 

http://andrewsullivan.thedaily...e-election-away.html

 

 

OBAMA IS TOAST FOLKS!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by cain:

You need some Gravol Rev

As I told him, this time and for the first time, I am going to brave the weather and watch in person Obama's inauguration this time.

 


Stormy:

 

Did you read that Andrew Sullivan article ?

 

Sullivan is a bigger Obama groupie than you are and right now he is sacred $hit---he knows in his heart and mind Obama is TOAST!

 

Here is what Sullivan said in that article:-->read slowly:

 

"A sitting president does not recover from being obliterated on substance, style and likeability in the first debate and get much of a chance to comeback. He(Obama) has, at a crucial moment, deeply depressed his base and his supporters and independents are flocking to Romney in droves." Andrew Sullivan

 

Listen up Stormy! The first debate was bad for Obama--the next two will be catastrophic.:-)hahahaha

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

 

 

I feel that Obama no longer has what it takes to move the country forward due to his lack of political experience.

 

 


While Obama's performance was abysmal and even the blatantly pro Obama SNL had to laugh at him, what did Romney say that was so impressive.

 

Were I a Romney supporter I would be very confused as he contradicted himself and, aside from screaming about the magic of the market place...

 

We need to remember, Obama failed very badly in the debate.

 


I repeat...apart from telling lies and hiding what his real plans will be once idiots like you vote for him, what did Romney say?

 

I suggest you wait until the next debate before doing a victory dance.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

 

 

 

What the president did not do was perform or pander or take pot shots a the nonsense from Romney.


What the Obamamaniacs need to start doing is kicking their Jesus when he messes up.

 

Obama let Romney tell lies UNCHALLENGED.

 

Obama let Romney distort Obama's record UNCHALLENGED.

 

Obama let Romney openly not only contradict his earlier statements but also contradict those of HIS OWN party in Congress w/o openly stating his (Romney's) opposition to what Ryan and his buddies are up to.

 

The pity is that Romney also didnt debate well.  With his blatant lies and his blaring contradictions he would have made himself an easy target were Obama alert.

 

How much better would the headlines the day after been that the GOP campaign disavows Romney's remarks and that he "misspoke" AGAIN!!!

 

Instead most Obama supporters are left wondering what went wrong, afraid about how Obama will perform in the next two debates (also there is the Biden "foot in mouth" factor), and terrified about why Obama has just left them to the GOP wolves to gobble up.

 

It is indeed a fact that the Obama support base is very heavily comprised of people who arent traditional voters, and who, if not excited, might not vote as was their normal behavior prior to 2008.  And especially as this same group are suffering disproportionately from the continued weak job market.

 

Its not up to the undecided voters to guess whether Obama is fit for the job or not.'

 

It is up to Obama to prove it to them. This notion that Obama needs to arrive like The Messiah, and all must bow before him, and if they dont, something is wrong with them, needs to stop. 

 

The GOP want to win and I wonder why this fact shocks so many Obama fans.  Its up to Obama to prove that he is the better man and he didnt in that debate, even though Romney was a very easy target.

 

.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

DIEHARD BARACK SUPPORTER ANDREW SULLIVAN: DID OBAMA JUST THROW THE ENTIRE ELECTION AWAY ?

 

 

READ & WEEP STORMBORN & CO:

 

 

The Pew poll is devastating, just devastating. Before the debate, Obama had a 51 - 43 lead; now, Romney has a 49 - 45 lead. That's a simply unprecedented reversal for a candidate in October. Before Obama had leads on every policy issue and personal characteristic; now Romney leads in almost all of them. Obama's performance gave Romney a 12 point swing! I repeat: a 12 point swing.

 

Romney's favorables are above Obama's now. Yes, you read that right. Romney's favorables are higher than Obama's right now. That gender gap that was Obama's firewall? Over in one night:

 

Currently, women are evenly divided (47% Obama, 47% Romney). Last month, Obama led Romney by 18 points (56% to 38%) among women likely voters.

 

Seriously: has that kind of swing ever happened this late in a campaign? Has any candidate lost 18 points among women voters in one night ever? And we are told that when Obama left the stage that night, he was feeling good.

 

That's terrifying. On every single issue, Obama has instantly plummeted into near-oblivion. He still has some personal advantages over Romney - even though they are all much diminished. Obama still has an edge on Medicare, scores much higher on relating to ordinary people, is ahead on foreign policy, and on being moderate, consistent and honest (only 14 percent of swing voters believe Romney is honest). But on the core issues of the economy and the deficit, Romney is now kicking the president's ass:

 

http://andrewsullivan.thedaily...e-election-away.html

 

 

OBAMA IS TOAST FOLKS!

 

Rev

The Rev has proven that he is a man of numbers and numbers do not lie. I feel like a total fool by supporting Obama. 

 

Obama is finished. Romney now has tremendous momentum and in politics momentum is what matters. After the debate Obama proved to us that he is a dunce.

 

Bill Clinton gave Obama the election victory in a silver platter and Obama chose to throw it away. If this man cannot prepare for a debate, then he is definitely not up to the task for handling what lies ahead economically for the most powerfull nation on earth.

 

The republicans will now take this lead and momentum to the finish line. For those who say that Obama did not want to attack Ronmey are in denial. Look at the negative ads that the Democrats are currently running.

 

Desperation anyone ? Too little too late ? 

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

The democratic party has not and does not take black vote lightly.

 


Oh so what do they do to earn the black vote?  I note that the Democrats are openly courting the (white) female vote, the gay vote, the young college white vote, the Hispanic vote.

 

They just happen to think that blacks will be loyal and will go vote for them as they always do.  Apparently the lesson of 2010 was not forgotten.

 

Black politicians can do as they wish.  What they think and what they do bores most black people.

 

And here are two bright ideas.

 

1.  Obama could have done better than having the WHITEST administration since Ronald Reagan, thus signalling to the USA that there are many competent blacks.  This wopuld reduce a major institutional barrier for blacks..the perception by white employers that few competent black professionals exist. 

 

You know its a disgrace that when major decisions were being made by the George W administration blacks were in the room, what ever you might think of them.  The only black who comes near to having this power under Obama was the Deputy AG under Clinton so owes his rise more to him than to Obama.

 

2.  He could have agressively pursued an urban agenda.  Given that every one is now moving to these areas it could not be seen as pandering to one  group.  But given that blacks are disproportionately in urban areas they clearly would benefit.

 

 

But you raise a point.  Next time maybe blacks should NOT support a black candidate so when he ignores them they can actually draw attention to that fact.  Surely Bill Clinton paid more attention to the black vote than Obama has since becoming President.

FM
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Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

I feel like a total fool 


 

You should have left it there..........

Kari evidently white women arent reading your WH press releases.  If Romney has now caught him with Obama with the female vote this means that he now is beating him with the white female vote.

 

So continue to think that the black vote doesnt matter.  In VA black accounted for 20% of the votes last time, meaning that they accounted for almost 40% of Obama's vote and Obama barely won that state.  So if the black vote drops by 20% he loses and its going to be rough if he loses VA and FL as well.

 

I warned you two years ago that Obama was playing with fire by not aggressively focusing on the economy.  And now here we are. One bad debate and he is now under pressure to deliver in the next two or he loses.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:

I warned you two years ago that Obama was playing with fire by not aggressively focusing on the economy. 

You lack of knowledge on how the US economy works is quite evident. Which Congress or US President has not focused on the economy following the 2008 financial and housing collapse?

 

Anyone with the assertion of the President not aggressively focusing on the economy ignores the following:

 

  1. TARP to cleans the banking system and allow loans to be made to businesses and consumers. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  2. A fiscal stimulus package that provided tax relief to Americans and States funding to provide unemployment insurance, thus ensuring that the drop-off in consumer spending will be mitigated somewhat. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  3. Providing back-stop to the auto industry bankruptcy process and getting them back on their feet when private capital couldn't jump in or were disinclined to do. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  4. Signing a trade agreement and providing tax incentive for export companies to guarantee one of Obama's 2008 election promise, which he has kept. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  5. A proposal by the Administration to cut spending by $3 trillion over 10 years with $1 trillion in tax raises only on those making over $250,000 a year - the so-called balanced approach. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.

You are a disenchanted Black man (yes I'll introduce your race here as part of my response) who thinks black unemployment at 15% or so is directly related to Obama turning his back on you. If you ain't, it's because you want to be contrarian to every single utterances of mine here.

 

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by caribny:

I warned you two years ago that Obama was playing with fire by not aggressively focusing on the economy. 

You lack of knowledge on how the US economy works is quite evident. Which Congress or US President has not focused on the economy following the 2008 financial and housing collapse?

 

Anyone with the assertion of the President not aggressively focusing on the economy ignores the following:

 

  1. TARP to cleans the banking system and allow loans to be made to businesses and consumers. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  2. A fiscal stimulus package that provided tax relief to Americans and States funding to provide unemployment insurance, thus ensuring that the drop-off in consumer spending will be mitigated somewhat. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  3. Providing back-stop to the auto industry bankruptcy process and getting them back on their feet when private capital couldn't jump in or were disinclined to do. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  4. Signing a trade agreement and providing tax incentive for export companies to guarantee one of Obama's 2008 election promise, which he has kept. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  5. A proposal by the Administration to cut spending by $3 trillion over 10 years with $1 trillion in tax raises only on those making over $250,000 a year - the so-called balanced approach. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.

You are a disenchanted Black man (yes I'll introduce your race here as part of my response) who thinks black unemployment at 15% or so is directly related to Obama turning his back on you. If you ain't, it's because you want to be contrarian to every single utterances of mine here.

 

Another WH press release and a personal insult.  Kari you have nothing to say.  Just admit it.  I told you again that the debate will have repercussions for the undecided voters...but it now looks like even some of the decided for Obama are jumping ship.

 

I told you so.  Two years ago.

 

Now go home and hope that the black turn out doesnt drop to what it normally is and ditto for the white youth vote (another devastated group).  If indeed Romney is almost closing the white gender gap he can start selecting his cabinet.  And then of course Hispanics who note that Obama has deported more people than both Bushes and Clinton combined.

 

As we speak they have Michelle running all over begging black people not to stay home.  Word out is that many dont plan to vote.

 

And of course GOP inspired ID laws and undue scrutiny in places like FL will lead to long lines and it is indeed possible that many might decide to go to their jobs, which they risk losing, (blacks being the last hired, first fired, and this didnt change with our 50% white President), rather than spending all day to vote for a man who did nothing for them.

 

BTW you clearly dont own a small business because banks are NOT lending to them.  But this is what you get for regurgitating WH press releases. 

 

And many argue that the fiscal stimulus was not only too little, but too much of it was in tax cuts, which were too small for the average person to notice so they didnt spend it.  Obama should have gotten on Harry Reid's butt and made him to perform.

 

What happened to the "shovel ready projects" which could have been funded by the Infrastructure Bank, with the bonds purchased by the Feds, therefore not a drain on the budget?  Both Obama ideas which he walked away from.  As soon as his auto bailout began to work, Obama yawned, said fixing this economy is such a bore and walked away. I warned you about this two years ago and now the Pew poll has shown that the gendergap is closing.

 

.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by caribny:

I warned you two years ago that Obama was playing with fire by not aggressively focusing on the economy. 

You lack of knowledge on how the US economy works is quite evident. Which Congress or US President has not focused on the economy following the 2008 financial and housing collapse?

 

Anyone with the assertion of the President not aggressively focusing on the economy ignores the following:

 

  1. TARP to cleans the banking system and allow loans to be made to businesses and consumers. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  2. A fiscal stimulus package that provided tax relief to Americans and States funding to provide unemployment insurance, thus ensuring that the drop-off in consumer spending will be mitigated somewhat. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  3. Providing back-stop to the auto industry bankruptcy process and getting them back on their feet when private capital couldn't jump in or were disinclined to do. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  4. Signing a trade agreement and providing tax incentive for export companies to guarantee one of Obama's 2008 election promise, which he has kept. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.
  5. A proposal by the Administration to cut spending by $3 trillion over 10 years with $1 trillion in tax raises only on those making over $250,000 a year - the so-called balanced approach. This is not White House a press release, go read it in the newspapers and stop being a Sarah Palin.

You are a disenchanted Black man (yes I'll introduce your race here as part of my response) who thinks black unemployment at 15% or so is directly related to Obama turning his back on you. If you ain't, it's because you want to be contrarian to every single utterances of mine here.

 

Another WH press release and a personal insult.  Kari you have nothing to say.  Just admit it.  I told you again that the debate will have repercussions for the undecided voters...but it now looks like even some of the decided for Obama are jumping ship.

 

I told you so.  Two years ago.

 

Now go home and hope that the black turn out doesnt drop to what it normally is and ditto for the white youth vote (another devastated group).  If indeed Romney is almost closing the white gender gap he can start selecting his cabinet.  And then of course Hispanics who note that Obama has deported more people than both Bushes and Clinton combined.

 

As we speak they have Michelle running all over begging black people not to stay home.  Word out is that many dont plan to vote.

 

And of course GOP inspired ID laws and undue scrutiny in places like FL will lead to long lines and it is indeed possible that many might decide to go to their jobs, which they risk losing, (blacks being the last hired, first fired, and this didnt change with our 50% white President), rather than spending all day to vote for a man who did nothing for them.

 

BTW you clearly dont own a small business because banks are NOT lending to them.  But this is what you get for regurgitating WH press releases. 

 

And many argue that the fiscal stimulus was not only too little, but too much of it was in tax cuts, which were too small for the average person to notice so they didnt spend it.  Obama should have gotten on Harry Reid's butt and made him to perform.

 

What happened to the "shovel ready projects" which could have been funded by the Infrastructure Bank, with the bonds purchased by the Feds, therefore not a drain on the budget?  Both Obama ideas which he walked away from.  As soon as his auto bailout began to work, Obama yawned, said fixing this economy is such a bore and walked away. I warned you about this two years ago and now the Pew poll has shown that the gendergap is closing.

 

.

Kari and the other Obama dreamers are trying their level best to fill up that empty chair.

FM

MITT ROMNEY: IT'S TIME FOR A REAL AMERICAN PRESIDENT WHO TALKS ABOUT SAVING AMERICA'S FUTURE

 

 

“So you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving Big Bird. I actually think we need to have a president who talks about saving the American people and saving good jobs and saving our future and also saving the family farm.” – Mitt Romney

FM

SUFFOLK POLLING YANKS WORKERS FROM FLORIDA, NORTH CAROLINA, AND VIRGINIA--THEY CLAIM ROMNEY IS GUARANTEED TO WIN THOSE STATES

 

 

The president of Suffolk Polling tonight told Bill O’Reilly on The Factor that the company will not be taking any further polls in Florida, North Carolina and Virginia. David Paleologos, Suffolk University Political Research Center Director, told Bill these states are clearly going to Romney.

 

 

THIS IS HORRIBLE NEWS FOR OBAMA---A LANDSLIDE IS LOOMING FOLKS!

 

Rev

 

 

FM

LAS VEGAS BILLIONAIRE STEVE WYNN: "I'LL BE DAMNED IF I WANT FAILURE OBAMA TO LECTURE ME

 

 

If you have ever gone to Las Vegas--you have probably stayed at one of his resorts--Wynn, Encore, Bellagio, etc, etc

 

WYNN: I've created about 250,000 direct and indirect jobs according to the state of Nevada's measurement. If the number is 250,000, that's exactly 250,000 more than this president, who I'll be damned if I want to have him lecture me about small business and jobs. I'm a job creator. Guys like me are job creators and we don't like having a bulls-eye painted on our back.



The president is trying to put himself between me and my employees. By class warfare, by deprecating and calling a group that makes money 'billionaires and millionaires who don't pay their share.' I gave 120% of my salary and bonus away last year to charities, as I do most years. I can't stand the idea of being demagogued, that is put down by a president who has never created any jobs and who doesn't even understand how the economy works.



DON'T WORRY STEVE--IN 27 DAYS OBAMA WILL BE FIRED.

 

Rev

FM

 

 

 

 

 

RE: THE TERRORIST ATTACK ON THE AMERICAN EMBASSY IN LIBYA

 

The State department is part of the US intelligence community--and the state department is now saying they never put out any information saying the movie caused the attack in Libya...

 

BUT THE OBAMA INITIALLY LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE---THEY CLAIMED IT WAS THE MOVIE THAT CAUSED THE ATTACK.

 

OBAMA IS TOAST FOLKS---STICK A FORK IN OBAMBI!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

 

 

 

 

.

Kari and the other Obama dreamers are trying their level best to fill up that empty chair.

While Kari and others worship Obama and refuse to hold him accountable to represent their interests I am saying that he will get my vote.  Romney is a snake oil sales man who will disappoint many of you when he turns out to the George W Bush II. 

 

I have already toild you that the stronget job markets occurred under Reagan and Clinton.  They both left with a strong US economy and low unemployment.

 

I dont need to tell you where Bush left the USA even though people like you seem to want to forget.

 

I rather a man who did nothing FOR me than another who will do something TO me.

 

Romney's confusion, ignorance and inability to give us details, his meandering between pretending to be George Bush (tax cuts and no regulation) and Obama (not increasing taxes on the middle class and keeping large parts of Obamacare) should let you know that he is a snake oil sales man with no cre values who will say anything to close the sale.

 

Obama might be a dreamy professor with a limited ability to understand how the private sector works, but his heart is in the right place. 

 

Romney----a private equity guy with no recognition of the fact that one cannot run a country like a PE investor.  This is not about cutting costs w/o regard to the social consequences in order to maximize returns to wealthy share holders.  This is about running a country in a manner that maximizes opportunities for all.....especially for the poor and lower middle class who need help in order to do this.

 

Romney has no idea of how the average American lives.  No Romney your average American does NOT have an additional $2k/per month to pay for health insurance and the ER is not a source of good preventive health care.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by baseman:

 

Kari and the other Obama dreamers are trying their level best to fill up that empty chair.

Ah see yuh tekkin a half wid de Crib man.

Kari its a pity that you cant see the difference between baseman who calls Romney a hero with Caribj he calls him a snake oil sales man who stands a good chance of becoming President because people like you have worshipped Obama.  You all refused to hold him to account when two years ago it became quite obvious that he forgot that a President is held responsible when unemployment is high, w/o regard to whether it was his fault or not. 

 

Had he made it his business to AGGRESSIVELY face this problem of a very slow receovery, going to the American people with his great eloquence, when the Party of NO blocked him, then even if the economy was no better than it is today at least people would have said that he tried. 

 

Instead Obama placated the GOP until suddenly he remembered that he had to campaign, then he began to whine about how they dont want him to succeed.  No where in the world will an opposition party cooperate, and one which is as ideologically different from him has no reason to. They want him to fail so they can peddle their own agenda.

 

Thanks to people like you Obama has developed a level of arrogance which makes him perform well only in front of adoring disciples, causes him to scorn any need for debate, resulted in him refusing to prepare for the debate and then ending up looking quite foolish.

 

Thanks to Clinton's excellent speech as well as other speeaches like Michelle;s Obama left the Convention with a bounce which Romney failed to get.  Obama's speech as quite tired, and it turns out to be a foprcecast for an even more dismal first debate.

 

Even his closest friends.......the ones who hold him accountable when he fails....not adoring disciples like you who constantly run to protect him as if he is some wayward little boy.....have roundly criticized him.

 

Let us hope that he has learnt his lesson.  That he understands that the under performance of the US economy puts him in a weak position..,.that Romney will do anything to win and that unless he does the same (by exposing Romney's lies and his inconsistent behavior) he will lose.

 

And if on November 6 Obama is giving his concession speech (if he loses FL, VA, and OH) and snake oil sales man Romney is preening like peacock it will be Obama and his disciples like you who are to blame.

 

You see Kari, in your need to worship this Diety, you cannot tell the difference between those who never liked him (Rev Al) and those who once did but now support Romney (baseman); from people who will vote Obama but feel that Obama should be kept accountable and slammed when he fails.

 

Thanks to this there is a real possibility that Obama will lose, when befored teh debate he had the election all but in his hands.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

 

THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!

 

Obambi supporters have lost their voices---has the mourning begun ?

 

QUESTION:

 

WILL OBAMA BE DEFEATED IN A LANDSLIDE ?

 

Rev


Rev as some one who supports the market economy you ought to know taht prices are set by GLOBAL market conditions and there is little that a President can do to change that fact.

 

In any case the US is much less dependent on foreign energy and gas is under going a boom. Whether Obama is responsible for it or not the fact remains that we are not in an energy crisis.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Kari and the other Obama dreamers are trying their level best to fill up that empty chair.

Ah see yuh tekkin a half wid de Crib man.

Haha, don't worry bro, when this lil cutlass fight over with me and you and Romney in the WH, we gon goa hit a flattie.

Yes you ought to cogratulate Kari if Romney wins.  After it people like him he caused Obama to become so swell headed that he felt that he did not have to listen to any one. He didnt prepare for his debate...he thought that the USA worships him so would never listen to Romney.  So he realized too late and ended up looking like a deer about to be mowed down by a huge truck.

 

So now even OH is within Romney's grasp.  If Obama cant win OH, which benefitted from his most successful plan...the auto bailout....then how can he win in my hostile states like NC,FL, and NV.

 

I thought we voted for people to provide effective leadership. not to fall in loove with them.  Thanks to Kari and the other Obama cult worshippers Barack thinks so too, so thought that the debates were all BS and that he didnt have to prepare.

 

FM

The fundamentals of the election have not changed since the first Presidential debate. Obama screwed up big time by allowing Romney to get away with flip-flops and falsehoods. He has to do better in the remaining debates or he will lose whatever edge he had coming into October. What edge he had in October? He was leading in the polls in ALL 12 States most pundits considered "Swing States". In the path to 270 Electoral College votes, if you counted the States certain to vote Democrat and certain to vote Republican in the Presidential elections, Obama had a lead that meant he only had to win about three of those big Swing States - like Florida and Ohio. While the national polls moved in Romney's favor as a result of Obama's somnambulance by 2 to 3 percentage points, in the swing states there was not much movement. So all this "pants-on-fire" talk by CaribJ shows how unstable a mind he has.

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:

The fundamentals of the election have not changed since the first Presidential debate. Obama screwed up big time by allowing Romney to get away with flip-flops and falsehoods. He has to do better in the remaining debates or he will lose whatever edge he had coming into October. What edge he had in October? He was leading in the polls in ALL 12 States most pundits considered "Swing States". In the path to 270 Electoral College votes, if you counted the States certain to vote Democrat and certain to vote Republican in the Presidential elections, Obama had a lead that meant he only had to win about three of those big Swing States - like Florida and Ohio. While the national polls moved in Romney's favor as a result of Obama's somnambulance by 2 to 3 percentage points, in the swing states there was not much movement. So all this "pants-on-fire" talk by CaribJ shows how unstable a mind he has.

Kari I do not know which planet you are on. 

 

 

The folks at MSNBC and NPR , hardly a Romney supporting stations, report that there has been a tightening in the polls.

 

Note that I offer evidence.  All you offer is your adoration for The One, and your feeling that any one who doesnt feel similarly is either evil or unstable.

 

 
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/

 

 

You will note that the gap in OH and VA are quite narrow...moreso than two weeks ago. Obama was also leading in every state, even NC.  Now he apparently has lost NC and more disturbingly FL with its 29 electoral college votes.

 

 Indeed if the black/ young white turn out drops slightly in those states than Obama's lead evaporates.  Note that in 2008 blacks accounted for around 20% of the voters in VA and NC, meaning that approx  40% of Obama's votes came from those groups.  Now with GOP trickery  (ID and other scams), and with widespread malaise that base will not deliver what it did in 2008. Clearly Obama has lost support from many whites as well.

 

 

So if Romney wins VA and OH in addition to the states that were once Obama leaning but he now leads (Obama was ahead in all swing states before the debate, even NC), then Romney wins.

 

Unless there is a 5% gap then the races are a statistically dead heat.  Once you consider that groups that are an important part of Obama's base (young college educated adults and blacks) are not excited this year will they vote?  Hispanics are caught up in whether they fear the GOP, or they distrust Obama, given that he deported way more undocumented migrants than the last two Presidents combined. This might also depress turn out. 

 

Will new ID laws in many swing states prevent many of these groups from voting?

 

In addition many ultra rights, who had lost interest when they felt that Romney was inept, have now been re-ignited.  All one needs to do is look on GNI. Basemen and yuji switched from Romney to (reluctantly) Obama.  Now they have gone right back to Romney.

 

 

So Kari I dont know where you are getting your info from but every one in the Obama campaign is worried and you ought to be too.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 

 


Rev as some one who supports the market economy you ought to know taht prices are set by GLOBAL market conditions and there is little that a President can do to change that fact.

 

 

 

 

 

carib:

 

On this forum the Rev wears his POLITICAL CAP not his CAPITALIST CAP.

 

So pointing out the price of gasoline was 1.84 when Obama took office and nearly $4.00 today---that's a political plus for Republicans.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:

The fundamentals of the election have not changed since the first Presidential debate. Obama screwed up big time by allowing Romney to get away with flip-flops and falsehoods. He has to do better in the remaining debates or he will lose whatever edge he had coming into October. What edge he had in October? He was leading in the polls in ALL 12 States most pundits considered "Swing States". In the path to 270 Electoral College votes, if you counted the States certain to vote Democrat and certain to vote Republican in the Presidential elections, Obama had a lead that meant he only had to win about three of those big Swing States - like Florida and Ohio. While the national polls moved in Romney's favor as a result of Obama's somnambulance by 2 to 3 percentage points, in the swing states there was not much movement. So all this "pants-on-fire" talk by CaribJ shows how unstable a mind he has.

Kari I do not know which planet you are on. 

 

 

The folks at MSNBC and NPR , hardly a Romney supporting stations, report that there has been a tightening in the polls.

 

Note that I offer evidence.  All you offer is your adoration for The One, and your feeling that any one who doesnt feel similarly is either evil or unstable.

 

 
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/

 

 

You will note that the gap in OH and VA are quite narrow...moreso than two weeks ago. Obama was also leading in every state, even NC.  Now he apparently has lost NC and more disturbingly FL with its 29 electoral college votes.

 

 Indeed if the black/ young white turn out drops slightly in those states than Obama's lead evaporates.  Note that in 2008 blacks accounted for around 20% of the voters in VA and NC, meaning that approx  40% of Obama's votes came from those groups.  Now with GOP trickery  (ID and other scams), and with widespread malaise that base will not deliver what it did in 2008. Clearly Obama has lost support from many whites as well.

 

 

So if Romney wins VA and OH in addition to the states that were once Obama leaning but he now leads (Obama was ahead in all swing states before the debate, even NC), then Romney wins.

 

Unless there is a 5% gap then the races are a statistically dead heat.  Once you consider that groups that are an important part of Obama's base (young college educated adults and blacks) are not excited this year will they vote?  Hispanics are caught up in whether they fear the GOP, or they distrust Obama, given that he deported way more undocumented migrants than the last two Presidents combined. This might also depress turn out. 

 

Will new ID laws in many swing states prevent many of these groups from voting?

 

In addition many ultra rights, who had lost interest when they felt that Romney was inept, have now been re-ignited.  All one needs to do is look on GNI. Basemen and yuji switched from Romney to (reluctantly) Obama.  Now they have gone right back to Romney.

 

 

So Kari I dont know where you are getting your info from but every one in the Obama campaign is worried and you ought to be too.

Kari
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

 

 

 

 

 their president is just a lil pissing tail boy--a duncy--out to sea without his beloved teleprompter.

 

Rev 

Hey Shithead, you will soon tire of your regurgitating vomit, you pencil-neck slimy reptile. All you could do is desecrate the holder of the office of the Presidency of the country you so love?

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:

I see Crib continues to be Romney-esque in the use of "Kari" as a bogeyman.......


Kari make this out to be about caribj who doesnt live in a swing state so whose vote doesnt matter.

 

Typical behavior on forums is when one doesnt have an intelligent response one personalizes the argument, pretending as if the issue is only confined to the person who you disagree with.

 

Worry about the fact that Obama has lost the lead in NC and FL and is statistically tied with Romney in VA and even in OH, where a mere week ago he had an almost double digit lead.

 

Better hope all those blacks, who you malign by telling them to solve their own problems and leave Obama alone, and who Obama forgot about since 4 years ago dont forget about him next month.  If they treat him as they treated Kerry....well you know what happened to Kerry even though by 2004 George Bush was an amazingly weak president.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 

Note that I offer evidence.  All you offer is your adoration for The One, and your feeling that any one who doesnt feel similarly is either evil or unstable.

 

 
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/

 

 

 

 

 

Kari I see that you are upset as you are unable to show data which proves that Obama's fiasco od a debate has not cost him.

 

Well the evidence is there, whether or not you want it.

FM

REAL CLEAR POLITICS(RCP) NOW A SEA OF RED

 

 

 

RCP Average:     R 47.3 ; O 46.3.......Romney +1

 

* Rasmussen:     R 48; O 47..............Romney +1

 

* Survey USA:    R 47; O 46.............Romney +1

 

* Fox News:       R 46; O 45.............Romney +1

 

* Gallup:           R 48; O 47.............Romney +1

 

* IBD/TIPP:       R 47; O 46..............Romney +1

 

* Pew Research: R 49; O 45..............Romney +4

 

 

PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT---START PRACTICE SAYING "PRESIDENT ROMNEY" FOLKS.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by caribny:

Typical behavior on forums is when one doesnt have an intelligent response one personalizes the argument, pretending as if the issue is only confined to the person who you disagree with.

 


 

 

The polls are tightening and the fact that you ignore it doesnt change the fact.

 

Now feel free to demean yourself by engaging in personal attacks rather then intelligent conversation.  Clearly you have no data to refute my point so you personalize it around caribj.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by caribny:

Typical behavior on forums is when one doesnt have an intelligent response one personalizes the argument, pretending as if the issue is only confined to the person who you disagree with.

 

Take it easy Kari.  There is only one thing wore than another Obama term, i.e., the PNC regaining power in Guyana.

FM

IS THIS THE SIGN OF A LARGER TREND ? BAD BOY RAPPER SHYNE ENDORSES MITT ROMNEY--EARLIER LINDSAY LOHAN ENDORSED ROMNEY---THE LOW INFORMATION VOTERS WENT FOR OBAMA IN 2008

 

 

 

13% of voters in 2008 were blacks---it's now looking like black turnout in 2012 will revert to the mean--11%--that's bad news for Obambi.

 

ANYWAY!

 

Bad Boy Entertainment rapper Shyne is the latest entertainer to publicly support Mitt Romney for president.


Pink 941reported:

Shyne is the latest entertainer with hip-hop ties to jump on the Mitt Romney bandwagon. But the former Diddy protÃĐgÃĐ who has converted to Judaism, calls out the president over his policy in Syria.

 

Like Stacey Dash, who tweeted her approval for the Republican Candidate last week, the former Bad Boy rapper took to social media to make a statement about the present administration’s foreign policy.

 

“How obama put the hit on kadafy but assad murdering tens of thousands of his own people in Syria & nobody doing nothing?”

How obama put the hit on kadafy but assad murdering tens of thousands of his own people in Syria & nobody doing nothing?

 

Not only has the outspoken Jewish rapper challenged President Obama, he also professed his support to Romney.

 

“I’d vote for Romney,” he told MTV’s RapFix.

FM

NY TIMES JEFF ZELENY: I SPENT 5 DAYS IN OHIO THIS WEEK, "I WOULD DESCRIBE THE ROMNEY CROWDS AS OBAMA-SIZED CROWDS OF 2008

 

Huge Romney crowd in Ohio--not a single darkie--white America is determined to put the white back into the white house.

 

 

This is depressing news for the Obama groupies on the gni forum---it's over folks---OBAMA IS TOAST. caribJ is in mourning---practice saying "President Romney" carib.

 

Rev

FM

Rev Bhai

 

You were right all along. I owe you polo apology for supporting a looser and dunce like Obama.

 

In light of the terrorist activities of the AFC led by Nigel, Indo Guyanese must now throw their support behind a real man who will support democracy in Guyana.

 

Romney is now poised for victory and we must throw our support behind him. Enough of dunce Afro leaders in the world.

FM

This election is over folks. Time for the democrats to keep their handkerchiefs  handy to wipe their tears in bidding Obama farewell.

 

He gave us hope but lost his way. Lack of experience and arrogance cost him the debates. Clint Eastwood was right all along. 

 

The American people have realized that Obama was dull at the debate and this might as well be a true reflection of who he really is. Momentum is important in politics and Romney is now like a bullet train. No once can stop him now from winning the presidency.

 

Guyana will have an ally in the fight against terrorists. Someone who is not in any way sympathetic to terrorists.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Guyana will have an ally in the fight against terrorists. Someone who is not in any way sympathetic to terrorists.

best i remember, it was Bush II who put your PPP heroes (Gajie, Raja, Rohee, etc.) on the watch list.

 

simple or just plain stupid . . . which one are u?

 

PNC dunce head redux has no shame,then again, what do you expect from a welfare leech. 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Guyana will have an ally in the fight against terrorists. Someone who is not in any way sympathetic to terrorists.

best i remember, it was Bush II who put your PPP heroes (Gajie, Raja, Rohee, etc.) on the watch list.

 

simple or just plain stupid . . . which one are u?

 

PNC dunce head redux has no shame,then again, what do you expect from a welfare leech. 

poor u . . . wishing hard that U could say i lie

 

heh heh heh . . . we got a cell warming up for u too; Big Bubba want to know when

FM

         

          GALLUP: WOMEN TURNING AWAY

 

 

7:44PM EDT October 15. 2012 - WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney leads President Obama by four percentage points among likely voters in the nation's top battlegrounds, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, and he has growing enthusiasm among women to thank.

 

As the presidential campaign heads into its final weeks, the survey of voters in 12 crucial swing states finds female voters much more engaged in the election and increasingly concerned about the deficit and debt issues that favor Romney. The Republican nominee now ties the president among women who are likely voters, 48%-48%, while he leads by 12 points among men.

 

COMMENT:

 

It will, indeed, be a landslide defeat for Mullah Obama if he loses the women's vote.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

REPUBLICAN ENTHUSIASM SKY HIGH

 

 

 

Obama will lose on Nov 6th--that is now certain--the question is will Obama lose by a landslide ?

 

Rev

It's still even but with the momentum going Romney's way for sure.  The fact that the last debate to come will be on foreign policy and with the domestic economy a mess and Benghazigate still unfolding, it does not bode well for Obama.

 

There is now a real decisive shift to Romney which is hard to reverse.  Romney has to throttle back, take the middle of the road, and let Obama and his spinners self destruct.

 

I was at a Guyanese event last week and was surprised how many were favoring Romney over Obama.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
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It's still even but with the momentum going Romney's way for sure.  I was at a Guyanese event last week and was surprised how many were favoring Romney over Obama.

 


YOU KNOW THE REV'S MANTRA: NUMBERS DON'T LIE AND WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WITNESSING IS OBAMA'S EPIC COLLAPSE--THE NUMBERS SAY SO.

 

 

 

Listen baseman, Obama's epic collapse is reflected in the accelerated deterioration in his standing in the gallup tracking poll(Romney 51 Obama 45 today) and in numerous key state polls---PPP polling( a democrat firm) has Romney ahead in Iowa and New Hampshire--and has Romney down by only 1 in Ohio using a D+8 sample.

 

THE REV IS STILL CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THE ELECTION WILL BE A LANDSLIDE!

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by baseman:
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It's still even but with the momentum going Romney's way for sure.  I was at a Guyanese event last week and was surprised how many were favoring Romney over Obama.

 


YOU KNOW THE REV'S MANTRA: NUMBERS DON'T LIE AND WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WITNESSING IS OBAMA'S EPIC COLLAPSE--THE NUMBERS SAY SO.

 

 

 

Listen baseman, Obama's epic collapse is reflected in the accelerated deterioration in his standing in the gallup tracking poll(Romney 51 Obama 45 today) and in numerous key state polls---PPP polling( a democrat firm) has Romney ahead in Iowa and New Hampshire--and has Romney down by only 1 in Ohio using a D+8 sample.

 

THE REV IS STILL CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THE ELECTION WILL BE A LANDSLIDE!

 

Rev

 

 

It's seems an epic collapse indeed.  Everyone likes to be on the winning side, and Romney certainly is having his day.

 

Unlike Kari and Co, most voters don't engage in loooong analytics and theoretics as to who and why they vote, as such my relatively unsophisticated input. It's not what matters.  These guy are lost in the forest collecting leaves while the trees are stolen from under them.

 

Fact of the matter, the economy is a mess and the arrogance of Obama is showing through.  Benghazigate is just the icing on the cake so in my book, I cannot see why he deserves my vote or a second term.

 

Obama is heading for early retirement.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
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It's seems an epic collapse indeed.  Everyone likes to be on the winning side, and Romney certainly is having his day. Obama is heading for early retirement.


base:

 

There is an old saying, "winners(Romney) act like winners; and losers(Obama) act like losers.

 

Obama has nothing of substance to campaign on, so he is reduced to name calling and demeaning his opponent--"Romnesia", bindergate, and all the other nonsense.

 

IT IS PANIC TIME IN THE OBAMA CAMP! DESPERATION HAS SET IN!

 

Check out today's gallup daily tracking poll--Romey's lead back to 7 points.

 

 

Not even a miracle from Allah can save Obambi---you are right baseman--Obama is heading for early retirement.

 

Rev

 

 

FM

 

OBAMA IS 12 DAYS AWAY FROM PLANNING HIS PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY.

 

The American people saw the debates--Romney looked gracious and presidential. He was fluent, articulate, well-informed, optimistic---and he had a clear vision for America; Obama was an angry pit bull--he looked small, petty and desperate.

 

CONGRATS MITT ROMNEY--45th PRESIDENT OF THE GREAT US of A.

 

Rev

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9 DAYS TO GO! AMERICA WILL BE RESCUED! MITT ROMNEY WILL BECOME THE 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

 

 

 

Mitt Romney  is a man with a particular set of skills that are badly needed in America today---Mitt has spent his entire career turning around troubled companies---America now needs a turnaround---and Mitt is the man to get the job done.

 

Rev

FM

PENNSYLVANIA IS THE KEY--IF OBAMA LOSES PENNSYLVANIA--HE WILL LOSE THE ELECTION BY A LANDSLIDE

 

 

 

HOW CAN OBAMA LOSE PA ?

 

* In 2008 Obama netted 478K votes out of Philly county; in 2004 Kerry netted 410K votes; in 2000 Gore netted 350K votes.

 

* Romney is winning non Philly counties 54-46

 

* OBAMA NEEDS TO NET 433K VOTES OUT OF PHILLY COUNTY TO WIN.

 

=====================

 

Pay attention to Pennsylvania on election night folks---if Obama loses PA he will lose by a landslide.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Penn could make Ohio irrelevant.

 

The Rev is now 100% confident Romney will win Ohio----he is winning independents by a healthy margin---and republican enthusiasm in Ohio is sky high.

 

Pennsylvania is still close--but if Romney pulls off PA---he will win the election by a landslide.

 

Rev

FM

If Romney wins this election, is will be proof positive that Americans have lost their minds. Nothing in Romney's actions till now make him fit to lead others who are his employers. Since Romney is accustomed to leading others who are his employees, he will not be able to adapt. As president, he will not be able to fire those he lead and this will make him go berserk given how much he likes firing people.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

If Romney wins this election, is will be proof positive that Americans have lost their minds.

 

 

Americans lost their minds 4 years ago when they elected a man who never held a real job in his life.

 

THANKFULLY WHITE AMERICANS HAVE COME TO THEIR SENSES!

 

And in 3 days Mitt Romney will be elected the 45th president of the United States.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

Obama will win the US election.The Democrats will lose Congress but will retain the Senate.


Don:

 

OBAMA'S LUCK WILL RUN OUT IN 48 HOURS!

 

* White Americans have had enough of Obama's nastiness and incompetence.

 

* Romney is closing like a winner--full of confidence, enthusiasm, and optimism; Obama is closing like a loser--calling for REVENGE.

 

 

 

 

THE ANGRY, BITTER BLACKMAN B. HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL BE FIRED IN 48 HOURS.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:

It is better to support Obama that those racists Republicans.  That is a eurocentric party. 


The angry, bitter blackman Odinga Hussein Obambi asked his people to vote for revenge; the optimistic white man, Mitt Romney, asks his people to vote for love of country. Whites will vote for Mitt; Darkies will vote for the angtry, bitter black man.

 

 

 

MITT ROMNEY:

 

Did you see what President Obama said today? He asked his supporters to vote for “revenge.” For “revenge.” Instead, I ask the American people to vote for love of country.

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GEORGE WILL PREDICTS 321-217 ROMNEY LANDSLIDE

 

 

Add Washington Post George Will to the landslide column along with Fox News Channel’s Dick Morris and the Washington Examiner’s Michael Barone.

 

On this weekend’s broadcast of “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” on ABC, Will revealed his prediction and added a bonus surprise by saying traditional Democratic state Minnesota would go for Romney as well.

 

“I’m projecting Minnesota to go for Romney,” Will said. “It’s the only state that’s voted democratic in nine consecutive elections, but this year, there’s marriage amendment on the ballot that will bring out the evangelicals and I think could make the difference.”



Rev

FM

 

Are we about to see the biggest blowout since Reagan's 2nd election in 1984 ? If Romney wins Pennsylvania, we may very well witness that blowout---Mitt Romney already has the election in the bag---he will win Ohio and Colorado---so 270 electoral votes is guaranteed. What I am curious to know---and I have harbored this curiosity for months now---will Romney win by a landslide ? Or will Obama lose in a landslide ?

 

Rev

FM

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